10-Jun-82 21:08:00,1797;000000000000 Date: 10 June 1982 2308-edt From: Brian N. Hess Subject: Perfect Writer To: info-cpm at MIT-MC Cc: Amethyst-Users at MIT-AI For those of you who want reassurance about Perfect Writer, here's another useful piece of information: Perfect Writer is substantially the same as Mark of the Unicorn's Mince and Scribble package. Therefore, if you know someone who swears up and down that Mince and Scribble are good Emacs and Scribe clones, then you can rest assured that so is Perfect Writer. It has had a menu system put on front of it, has (as Barry said) USER-redefinable (rather than programmer-redefinable) key bindings, and in my opinion, the year of work that was put into Perfect Writer after their (Perfect Software) initial purchase of Mince and Scribble has been well-spent in producing a VERY good word-processing-style manual, and that (even more than the technical improvements) makes it a winner! However, if you are a hacker type, you will probably still want to buy Mince and Scribble ($275) instead, because you get the C source code to play with! Alas, the manual is written more for the technical type than the secretary. Perhaps Unicorn's FinalWord product will turn out to fill the business word processing category, but there have been no reviews on it to date. As I understand it, the $389 price includes only Perfect Writer, and Perfect Speller is extra? The ads aren't clear on that point, and we (Mark of the Unicorn) have only a version 1.01 Perfect Writer to hack with. Since the price just went up from $289, perhaps they are including "spell mode" and Perfect Speller in with it now? Anybody have a recently purchased model? Brian 13-Jun-82 11:51:00,2152;000000000000 Date: 13 Jun 1982 at 1251-CDT From: awd at UTEXAS-11 (BADOB@AI) Subject: Perfect Writer To: info-cpm at ai,amethyst-users at mc As BNH and PGA noted, PW is Mince and Scirbbel warmed over. However, Source code is not avaailable for any part of PW or PS at all. What this means ia that in some cases, which are ever decreasing, PW may prove to be inadaquate. eg: 1. Apples without an 80 column board can actually be supported, however it is not reccommended since most screens of text are trimmed for a 79 column terminal. This means that the menu system is difficult if not impossible to use on an apple with 40 columns, and the configuration process is hard. 2. Without the source to Crayon, The MotU printer driver, new printer drivers are impossible to add. This is not all bad: PW and Crayon will indeed support any printer in monospaced modes of operation. Only those printers which can proportional space and are not currently supported lose. 3. The PW editor is roughly 4K bigger than Mince, and all the config programs are significantly more verbose... This means that PW MUST HAVE a genuine 56K to run in. Many Morrow systems have a CP/M which proclaims 56K, but indeed has less. 4. In rebuttal to the InfoWorld article - PW is now being shipped with inch and a half binders instead of one-inch ones. We may also include Hardcopy of the lessons, but did not do so for two reasons: a. We felt that the lessons are meant to be learned off disk and having hardcopy would encourage thair use in an improper manner. b. The lessons are constantly being revised. Sigh. We would have spent as much typesetting the lessons as the rest of the wntire manual. this policy on the lessons may change in the future... 5. Obviously, all of PW is in BDS C. All of the other products in the Perfect (frob) line are also in C, and we are working on ports to other machines and operating systems which support C. Expect to see at least a few ??nix versions of PW and the other programs in the PSI stable by years' end -Barry A. Dobyns ------- 18-Jun-82 15:17:03,557;000000000000 Date: Fri Jun 18 17:17:03 1982 From: decvax!duke!alr at Berkeley I have been told that I might be able to get an evaluation by you of the Mince screen editor for the IBM pc. My main interest is in an editor that can handle large (>60K) text files, do all the necessary buffering, etc, and, perhaps even allow editing of multiple files. I currently use vi on UNIX, and it's ok; I found IBM's spf even better when I was there. I'd really appreciate any info you're willing to share. Arny Rosenberg Duke University Computer Science duke!alr