1-Feb-87 19:10:54-MST,932;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Sun 1 Feb 87 19:10:45-MST Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa01051; 1 Feb 87 9:21 EST Received: from NOSC.MIL by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa01044; 1 Feb 87 7:50 EST Received: by bass.ARPA (5.31/4.7) id AA05987; Sun, 1 Feb 87 04:50:19 PST Received: by crash.CTS.COM (5.9/UUCP-Project/rel-1.0/09-14-86) id AA21336; Sun, 1 Feb 87 04:36:44 PST Message-Id: <8702011236.AA21336@crash.CTS.COM> Date: Sun, 1 Feb 87 04:29:43 PST From: Matt Smiley To: crash!info-cpm <@NOSC.MIL:crash!info-cpm@AMSAA-SEER.ARPA> Subject: Re: Archive-request problems. Don't send mail to info-CPM for archives! Send it to: ARCHIVE-REQUEST@SIMTEL20.ARPA I don't think Info CP/M is even related to the archives. ...!nosc!crash!pnet01!msmiley@NOSC 2-Feb-87 09:18:43-MST,556;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA.ARPA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Mon 2 Feb 87 09:18:32-MST Received: from AMSAA.ARPA by AMSAA.amsaa.ARPA id aa19262; 2 Feb 87 10:11 EST Received: from WISCVM.WISC.EDU by AMSAA.AMSAA.ARPA id aa18887; 2 Feb 87 10:00 EST Received: from BLIULG11.BITNET by wiscvm.wisc.edu on 02/02/87 at 07:49:30 CST Date: Mon, 02 Feb 87 14:43:38 ULG To: INFO-CPM@AMSAA.ARPA From: U102607%bliulg11.bitnet@AMSAA.ARPA Subject: COMMANDS Message-ID: <8702021000.aa18887@AMSAA.AMSAA.ARPA> HELP 2-Feb-87 17:16:46-MST,1107;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Mon 2 Feb 87 17:16:24-MST Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa06184; 2 Feb 87 16:35 EST Received: from XX.LCS.MIT.EDU by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa06150; 2 Feb 87 16:09 EST Received: from OZ.AI.MIT.EDU by XX.LCS.MIT.EDU via Chaosnet; 1 Feb 87 08:40-EST Date: Sun 1 Feb 87 08:40:36-EST From: Mark Becker Subject: Looking for SASI CP/M driver software To: Info-CPM@AMSAA-SEER.ARPA Message-ID: <12275566474.21.CENT.MBECK@OZ.AI.MIT.EDU> Hello All - I've got a controller (DTC-510A), a drive (Tandon TM-501), and some idea of the hardware interface requirements... can someone give me a pointer to a sample of a software driver to run under CP/M-2.2 ? I'd like to avoid re-inventing the wheel if possible. For the curious, Xebec no longer sells their S-100 host interface adapter and software package. For other computers, yes.. but not S-100. Regards, Mark ------- 2-Feb-87 17:43:51-MST,895;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Mon 2 Feb 87 17:43:17-MST Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa06395; 2 Feb 87 17:32 EST Received: from MITRE.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa06332; 2 Feb 87 16:50 EST Date: Mon, 2 Feb 87 15:57:51 est From: elsaesser%mwcamis@mitre.arpa Full-Name: Message-Id: <8702022057.AA23878@mitre.ARPA> Organization: The MITRE Corp., Washington, D.C. To: info-cpm@AMSAA-SEER.ARPA Subject: Full screen terminal program for Osbo Exec -------- I am in need of a program that turns my Osborne Exec (CPM 3.0 I think) into a VT100 or some other full screen variety so that I can use EDT or EMACS on a VAX. Anyone know of a SIMTEL20 file that might help? Thanks in advance, Chris Elsaesser elsaesser%mwcamis@MITRE.arpa 2-Feb-87 18:48:51-MST,1079;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Mon 2 Feb 87 18:48:46-MST Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa05518; 2 Feb 87 15:21 EST Received: from WISCVM.WISC.EDU by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa05495; 2 Feb 87 14:09 EST Received: from RPICICGE.BITNET by wiscvm.wisc.edu on 02/02/87 at 11:53:30 CST Received: by RPICICGE (Mailer X1.23) id 2301; Mon, 02 Feb 87 12:52:28 EST Date: Mon, 02 Feb 87 12:46:19 EST From: "John S. Fisher" To: INFO-CPM@AMSAA-SEER.ARPA Subject: BITNET node names for Archive server Message-ID: <8702021409.aa05495@AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA> I'm sure I'm not the only BITNET routing table administrator in this information group, but I'd be more than happy to forward the complete BITNET node lists to the Archive maintainer as I receive them. (I get an updated copy automatically about the second week of every month.) If you want a monthly update of the list from me, let me know..... 2-Feb-87 19:20:03-MST,556;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA.ARPA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Mon 2 Feb 87 19:19:55-MST Received: from AMSAA.ARPA by AMSAA.AMSAA.ARPA id aa00654; 2 Feb 87 15:01 EST Received: from WISCVM.WISC.EDU by AMSAA.AMSAA.ARPA id aa00328; 2 Feb 87 14:36 EST Received: from BLIULG11.BITNET by wiscvm.wisc.edu on 02/02/87 at 07:49:30 CST Date: Mon, 02 Feb 87 14:43:38 ULG To: INFO-CPM@AMSAA.ARPA From: U102607%bliulg11.bitnet@AMSAA.ARPA Subject: COMMANDS Message-ID: <8702021437.aa00328@AMSAA.AMSAA.ARPA> HELP 2-Feb-87 19:21:21-MST,2528;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Mon 2 Feb 87 19:21:08-MST Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa06572; 2 Feb 87 18:03 EST Received: from LLL-LCC.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa06570; 2 Feb 87 17:48 EST Received: Mon, 2 Feb 87 10:30:04 PST from lll-es-s05.arpa by lll-lcc.ARPA (5.51/) id AA05617; Mon, 2 Feb 87 10:30:04 PST Return-Path: Received: by lll-es-s05.ARPA (1.1/SMI-3.0DEV3) id AA02802; Mon, 2 Feb 87 10:33:32 PST Message-Id: <8702021833.AA02802@lll-es-s05.ARPA> Date: Mon Feb 2 10:33:28 1987 From: Roger Hanscom 423-0441 Subject: Intersecting Concepts To: info-cpm@AMSAA-SEER.ARPA Status: N * * I've seen some comments on the net about Intersecting Concepts ( creators of Media Master and ZP/EM ). Would-be emulators should approach their products with caution. A colleague of mine purchased their package to copy some WS stuff from 5-1/4 CP/M diskettes of unknown origin. When he had troubles, he brought them to me. After trying full-track reads on his diskettes with my S-100 system (unsuccessfully), I surmised that they fell into Intersecting Concept's category of diskettes written with "incompatible controller hardware" and thus un-readable with their product. In the meantime, I tried out three other diskette formats of known origin with Media Master and ZP/EM in an attempt to determine what the problem was. The program would not read my Osborne or Wang OIS 60 formats, and although the directory of a Columbia 964 disk came up (with incorrect file sizes) and Media Master copied some very vanilla utilities such as PIP, ASM, etc., the resulting files would not work with the ZP/EM emulator. Perhaps I hit upon some of their least-used formats, I don't know. I can say, however, that when I called them for help, they treated me with sarcasm and disdain. I can only assume that folks who react that way must be besieged daily by angry and disappointed customers. They finally agreed to send another copy of the distribution diskette, but it produced the same results. This whole incident left me with a VERY bad impression of the company, and my friend with a copy of a $60. program that is worthless to him. BE SURE that you know it will work BEFORE you buy it from them. You probably won't find this vendor very helpful with problems. * * Roger Hanscom * * 2-Feb-87 19:48:52-MST,1264;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Mon 2 Feb 87 19:48:45-MST Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa06702; 2 Feb 87 18:34 EST Received: from LLL-LCC.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa06580; 2 Feb 87 17:53 EST Received: Mon, 2 Feb 87 09:10:23 PST from lll-es-s05.arpa by lll-lcc.ARPA (5.51/) id AA03661; Mon, 2 Feb 87 09:10:23 PST Return-Path: Received: by lll-es-s05.ARPA (1.1/SMI-3.0DEV3) id AA02746; Mon, 2 Feb 87 09:13:52 PST Message-Id: <8702021713.AA02746@lll-es-s05.ARPA> Date: Mon Feb 2 09:13:49 1987 From: Roger Hanscom 423-0441 Subject: PD MicroEmacs To: info-cpm@AMSAA-SEER.ARPA Status: N * * * In response to Andy Weaver's request for a version of MicroEMACS for CP/M-86, the C Users' Group (Box 97, McPherson, KS 67460 (316) 241-1065) has two PD disks with MicroEMACS goodies. One is C source (#198) and the other is MS-DOS exe and docs. (#197). The exe works fine on the PC and Clones, so perhaps with a little bit of work on the sources, MicroEMACS can function with CP/M-86. At $6. per disk, you can't beat the price! * * Roger Hanscom * * 2-Feb-87 20:08:09-MST,556;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA.ARPA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Mon 2 Feb 87 20:07:59-MST Received: from AMSAA.ARPA by AMSAA.AMSAA.ARPA id aa04243; 2 Feb 87 16:09 EST Received: from WISCVM.WISC.EDU by AMSAA.AMSAA.ARPA id aa04089; 2 Feb 87 15:54 EST Received: from BLIULG11.BITNET by wiscvm.wisc.edu on 02/02/87 at 07:49:30 CST Date: Mon, 02 Feb 87 14:43:38 ULG To: INFO-CPM@AMSAA.ARPA From: U102607%bliulg11.bitnet@AMSAA.ARPA Subject: COMMANDS Message-ID: <8702021555.aa04089@AMSAA.AMSAA.ARPA> HELP 3-Feb-87 02:01:12-MST,817;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Tue 3 Feb 87 02:01:07-MST Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa07261; 3 Feb 87 0:05 EST Received: from SIMTEL20.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa07249; 2 Feb 87 23:47 EST Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1987 21:46 MST Message-ID: Sender: KPETERSEN@SIMTEL20.arpa From: Keith Petersen To: elsaesser%mwcamis@mitre.arpa Cc: Info-CPM@AMSAA-SEER.ARPA Subject: Full screen terminal program for Osbo Exec In-reply-to: Msg of 2 Feb 1987 13:57-MST from elsaesser%mwcamis at mitre.arpa EXKERM11.LBR in PD: is Kermit for the Executive. It has VT52 terminal emulation. --Keith 3-Feb-87 08:22:39-MST,1237;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Tue 3 Feb 87 08:22:02-MST Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa07759; 3 Feb 87 3:41 EST Received: from WISCVM.WISC.EDU by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa07745; 3 Feb 87 3:28 EST Received: from SCFVM.BITNET by wiscvm.wisc.edu on 02/03/87 at 01:37:15 CST Received: by SCFVM (Mailer X1.23b) id 2514; Tue, 03 Feb 87 02:39:02 EST Date: Tue, 3 Feb 87 02:36 EST From: "Bruce H. McIntosh" Subject: The Computer Journal To: INFO-CPM@AMSAA-SEER.ARPA MMDF-Warning: Parse error in original version of preceding line at AMSAA-SEER.ARPA Message-ID: <8702030329.aa07745@AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA> Greetings! Some time ago, someone mentioned that The Computer Journal was a good source of CP/M articles and info. I've been quite unable to locate a bookshop or computer store in my area that carries it, so I intend to subscribe. When the magazine was mentioned, an address and a bbs number for subscriptions were given. Would whoever posted that message please repeat the address and bbs number? Thank you very much! 3-Feb-87 11:01:24-MST,1762;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Tue 3 Feb 87 11:01:14-MST Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa09434; 3 Feb 87 12:29 EST Received: from WISCVM.WISC.EDU by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa09432; 3 Feb 87 12:07 EST Received: from H462BATMS by wiscvm.wisc.edu on 02/03/87 at 10:44:47 CST Date: Tue, 3-FEB-1987 11:44 EST From: Timothy Stark To: info-CPM@AMSAA-SEER.ARPA MMDF-Warning: Parse error in original version of preceding line at AMSAA-SEER.ARPA Subject: Archive-request problems Message-ID: <8702031207.aa09432@AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA> Hello, I tried send to archive-request via UUCP. Explain: ...!ucbvax!simtel20.arpa! archive-request. I am waited for files in approx 1 day and get requested files. I couldn't believe that WISCVM gateways tie network too much. Today, I received some requested files from archive-request. It took 7 days to arrive! On friday, it modified to replyable-block. I had send to info-CPM but it mailed back me. I was surprised that I received from BITNET%"H462BATMS@GALLUA.BITNET" from arpanet instead EDU%"....@WISCVM.WISC.EDU" That cause blocked some mail server to reply to bitnet sites. To work, use UUCP mail until WISCVM has repaired. Sorry for you. Last weekend, I tried to send netmail to archive-request and I get some files from archive-request via UUCP. It works fine! For BITNET users, use SENDGATE to send to archive-request: simtel20!archive-request@ucbvax.uucp or simtel20!archive-request@ucbvax.usenet to send request files. or you can look in your archive blurb about UUCP. Thanx, Tim Stark 4-Feb-87 22:03:45-MST,1844;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Wed 4 Feb 87 22:03:37-MST Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa02961; 4 Feb 87 21:36 EST Received: from WISCVM.WISC.EDU by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa02950; 4 Feb 87 20:56 EST Received: from H462BATMS by wiscvm.wisc.edu on 02/04/87 at 18:22:55 CST Date: Wed, 4-FEB-1987 19:22 EST From: Timothy Stark To: info-cpm@AMSAA-SEER.ARPA MMDF-Warning: Parse error in original version of preceding line at AMSAA-SEER.ARPA Subject: ARPANET-BITNET WISCVM problems. Message-ID: <8702042057.aa02950@AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA> Hellom I found some problems because I didn't receive any mails for a week from wiscvm gateways but my mails works well. But replies failed back to bitnet. I get mail from Info-CPM that I sent the same a week ago. I found that Bitnet%"H462BATMS@GALLUA" instead EDU%"H462BATMS%GALLUA.BITNET@WISCVM. WISC.EDU" that caused some servers am going to bomb out and failed requested files to bitnet. Also other problems, someone shutdown two of three SMTP gateways that cause blocked mails in arpanet area. If three SMTP is up, it is work fine for arpanet is going back normal. I believe that WISCVM get biggest problems that insults users in both arpanet and bitnet. Sorry for you. try send to other gateways. Bitnet.gates is avaiable in NICSERVE@BITNIC. Thanx. Please contact JULIE@WISCVM.WISC.EDU about blocked messages because of shutdown two of SMTP servers: SMTPUSR1 and SMTPUSR2. Thank for Arpanet SIG support! I have subscribe all of Info-CPM, Info-VAX, and Info-MICRO. tim, UUCP: ...!psuvax1!gallua.bitnet!h462batms ARPA: H462BATMS%GALLUA@WISCVM.WISC.EDU BITNET: H462BATMS@GALLUA 5-Feb-87 01:10:10-MST,995;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Thu 5 Feb 87 01:10:04-MST Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa02785; 4 Feb 87 19:20 EST Received: from DMC-CRC.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa02776; 4 Feb 87 18:51 EST Received: by dmc-crc.ARPA (4.12/4.7) id AA26882; Wed, 4 Feb 87 18:48:43 est Date: Wed, 4 Feb 87 18:48:43 est From: "G. J. Marwood" Message-Id: <8702042348.AA26882@dmc-crc.ARPA> To: -v@dmc-crc.arpa, info-cpm@AMSAA-SEER.ARPA Subject: MEX KEY Function Does anyone know whether it is possible to define a KEY command within another KEY string in MEX Plus ? Examples such as :- KEY K="KEY Q="QUIT^M"" don't work because of the double quotes. Use of a decimal replace- ment for " (/O034) doesn't help much either. thanks in advance Gordon 5-Feb-87 02:33:34-MST,10849;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Thu 5 Feb 87 02:33:11-MST Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa03153; 4 Feb 87 23:47 EST Received: from SIMTEL20.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa03135; 4 Feb 87 22:56 EST Date: Wed, 4 Feb 1987 20:34 MST Message-ID: Sender: KPETERSEN@SIMTEL20.arpa From: Keith Petersen To: Info-Cpm@AMSAA-SEER.ARPA Subject: New files uploaded to SIMTEL20 during January The following is a complete list of CP/M-oriented files uploaded to SIMTEL20 during the month of January, 1987. The numbers following the filenames are the file size in bytes followed by the file format. (7) means ASCII, (8) means binary. For a complete list of all CP/M files, see: PD:CPM.CRCLST - Complete list with CRC values PD:FILES.DIR - Abbreviated list with only directory and file names PD:FILES.IDX - Format as below, no descriptions There is currently no complete listing of all files, with descriptions. That is in the process of being created and will be announced when available. Note: to save space in the following listing, the device name PD: which normally appears ahead of the directory name has been omitted. PCPIBOOT.AQM 2048(8) Customize Applicard boot message PCPIDVR1.LST 1642(7) List of drivers for PCPI Applicard PCPIZ3VV.MAP 3214(7) PCPI Applicard/ZCPR3 memory map APCPMXFR.LBR 4224(8) CP/M to Apple DOS file transfer APPLDISK.DZC 3968(8) Info about Apple II soft sector disk FSTPCPI3.IZF 2560(8) Speed up PCPI Applicard BUFFERS.LBR 95360(8) Assembly language buffering routines SLOAD.LBR 7936(8) Enhanced replacement for LOAD.COM RGBTOCOM.ARC 12892(8) Adapt Atari ST RGB to composite video XREF19.BZS 5120(8) Cross reference utility for MBasic PRIVACY2.LBR 48512(8) Elect. Comm. Priv. Act of 1986 RCPM0187.LZT 35840(8) RCP/M phone list, January, 1987 PDFT0287.LZT 7552(8) Terse listing of RCP/M systems JETPRIME.LBR 4864(8) Super-fast version of Byte's SIEVE BGIIFACT.TXT 3183(7) Fact sheet on Backgrounder ii FIXBG102.SUB 687(7) Fix for BGIIDEM2 under ZCPR3 BGIIDEM2.LBR 144896(8) Demo version of super OS enhancement BGII100.BUG 639(7) BGIIDEMO.LBR bug fix information X-10.LBR 17280(8) X-10 wireless controller interface B5NH-1.IZS 1920(8) BYE5 Insert - North Star Horizon B5SP-1.IZS 2432(8) BYE5 Insert - Adam with EVE SP1 B5TVH-2.IZS 2944(8) BYE5 Insert - TeleVideo 803H C128BETA.RZP 14080(8) C128 CP/M+ Beta-Tester's report RDCBM20.LBR 17280(8) C-128 DOS to CP/M file copier C128MUST.LBR 37248(8) Utilities for the C-128 user in C128 mode JULIAN.LBR 3328(8) Set current date on dBASEII menu top STARDATE.LBR 69248(8) Calendar/almanac/astronomical calc. UNITS.LBR 23808(8) Convert units of measurements YAYANC02.LBR 30592(8) File catalog program in "C" DATE.PQS 6656(8) Turbo version of CP/M+ "Date" util. DP-DUP.LBR 48896(8) Spool print requests in CP/M+ IRA.LBR 12032(8) An IRA Calculator CHEF-5.LBR 113536(8) A recipe data base program MAIL32.LBR 27392(8) Create mailing labels CHECKSDB.LBR 44800(8) dBASEII deluxe checkbook maintainer ZDT20.LBR 8320(8) Debugger using TDL Z-80 Mnemonics DA22.LBR 6016(8) Directory lister also sets attribute RECVR21.LBR 9984(8) Recover files accidentally erased XREN.LBR 7296(8) Allows use of wildcards for REN ERADIR10.LBR 12544(8) Erases the directory of CP/M disk SPEC.LBR 4480(8) Protect trial software EDFILE3.LBR 18944(8) Disk file editor EPSONJAN.LZT 14208(8) January Epson newsletter CRCKK31.LBR 32768(8) Calculate 16-bit CRC value of file SPECTRAL.LBR 12160(8) Scientific applications in Fortran MSOFTSAV.INF 1670(7) Patch for Heathkit Microsoft product BDOS.HZP 4224(8) Help file for CP/M BDOS EX.HZP 2176(8) Help file for "EX" SWEEP.HZP 7680(8) Help file for NEW SWEEP SYSLIB.HZP 14720(8) Help file for SYSLIB BASCOM.HZP 2304(8) Help file for MBASIC compiler MLOAD.HZP 2944(8) Help file for MLOAD Z8E.HZP 1024(8) Help file for Z8E debugger BIOS.HZP 2688(8) Help file for CP/M BIOS ZDASM.HZP 7680(8) Help file for ZDASM disassembler PIP.HZP 2304(8) Help file for PIP ED.HZP 1280(8) Help file for CP/M "ED" STAT.HZP 2304(8) Help file for the CP/M STAT command UNCR.HZP 1152(8) Help file for UNCR utility. NULU.HZP 14720(8) Help file for NULU VDE.HZP 1408(8) Help file for the VDE editor SLRSYS.HZP 4608(8) Help file for the SLR assembler XLATE.HZP 768(8) Help file for 8080/Z80 translator SIO.HZP 5760(8) Help file for the Z80 SIO Z80MR.HZP 13312(8) Help file for Z80 Macro assembler SD-QUIET.LBR 10752(8) SD mod to quiet Kaypro 2-84 keyboard FEB87.MQG 16768(8) The $R/O (ReadOnly) News Magazine K-DIAL11.LBR 13824(8) Phone auto-dialer for Kaypro '84 SETKP-IO.LBR 20480(8) Set Kaypro modem/printer serial port PIX11.LBR 6144(8) Play with Kaypro graphics KPNUROM.LBR 61312(8) Enhanced ROM for '83 Kaypros KP-EDIT2.LBR 14208(8) Small WordStar-like editor for Kpro TSIGNS41.ARK 41432(8) Turbo Pascal support files for SIGNS SIGNS.MQG 3968(8) Message about the "SIGNS" package GSIGNS32.ARK 54016(8) Turbo Pascal files for "SIGNS" SIGNS.DQC 22722(8) Documentation for SIGNS MSIGNS12.ARK 42938(8) Pascal MT+ "SIGNS" for 8080 systems QWIKFONT.LBR 10240(8) Generalized printer set up FIVLNLBL.LBR 13056(8) Prints a five line label QLIST15.LBR 24064(8) Paginated lister for SQueezed text MXO-TV84.AQM 11392(8) MEX Overlay - TeleVideo TS-804 MXM-SC13.AZM 5888(8) MEX Overlay - SwichCom Canadiana MXH-MI11.AZM 7552(8) MEX Overlay - PMC Micromate 101 PCPFAST.MZX 12800(8) Easy PC Pursuit access with MEX114 DIALOG.LBR 49024(8) Automatic terminal dialog via modem BATPROT.COL 1571(7) Definition of MODEM 7 batch protocol TICKTOCK.MOD 971(7) Corrected Modula-2 sample program NUK103A.AZM 101120(8) XMODEM/YMODEM transfers for NUBYE RLI119.ARK 219610(8) W0RLI 11.9 Packet Radio BBS/Gateway PBBSM100.ARK 25472(8) Packet radio bbs for the TRS 100 XREFC26.LBR 38016(8) Cross reference of C programs PROFILER.LBR 48896(8) Execution time profiler for Pascal-P PP319UPD.LBR 149376(8) PASCAL-P Compiler version 3.1.9 PP319FIX.LBR 35072(8) Fix to Pascal-P v 3.1.9 USRCHNG.HAC 3554(7) Modification to PBBS RPASS14.LBR 11392(8) Set IOBYTE/WHEEL byte running BYE5 SRW143.LBR 9856(8) Disk/Memory inspector/modifier XUSER11.LBR 5760(8) Extended USER command COM-MENU.LBR 3072(8) Simple menu system for COM files XUSER.LBR 4224(8) Extended USER command for 8080 M2GUIDE.NZT 3584(8) Turbo Modula-2 User's guide review BOXDEMO.LBR 19584(8) Demonstration of Turbo Modula-2 SRCLIST.LBR 5888(8) Modula-2 text lister to printer MAPSTATF.LBR 57984(8) Statistical analysis package TURBOP.LBR 1792(8) Fix Turbo Pascal to run on Bondwell2 QKKER25.ARK 90112(8) Turbo Pascal version of KERMIT FNAME.LBR 2048(8) Manipulation of filenames in Turbo PASHELP.LBR 8064(8) Display Turbo Editor's settings FIX18.LBR 11392(8) Adds/removes tabs, CR, LF, from text RNF-PAS.LBR 74880(8) Great text formatter/word processor RNF12.LBR 92672(8) Text formatter/word processor FINREP24.LBR 13056(8) Find and Replace utility VDE24.LBR 50816(8) Full screen text editor/processor WS3550.AZM 2816(8) WordStar patch for NEC3550 printer REFLIST.LBR 17408(8) Create bibliography/reference lists WINDEX31.LBR 8448(8) Creates indexes for WordStar files PD:CVIDLIB.LBR 23296(8) Video routines for "C" with ZCPR3 PD:EF19.LBR 14976(8) EDFILE for the H19/H89 function keys PD:HD-ARC13.LBR 62080(8) ZCPR3 disk backup scripts PD:HEATHZ3.LBR 26624(8) ZCPR3 for Heath H89 systems PD:LX13.LBR 12672(8) Execute a COM file from a Library PD:SHUTILS2.LBR 21504(8) ZCPR3 shell variables improved PD:VF-BOX11.LBR 33536(8) Activate graphics mode in VFILER PD:Z-NEWS.6Z9 12928(8) ZCPR3/SYSLIB/ZRDOS Newsletter #609 PD:ZF10B.LBR 61824(8) A new VFILER variant PD:ZLDIR.LBR 9984(8) ZCPR3 Library Directory Tool PD:ZLUX25.LBR 42496(8) RCP/M utility handles LBR and ARC's PD:ZPATCH10.LBR 22016(8) Screen-oriented patcher for ZCPR3 PD:ZTXTTOWS.LBR 6272(8) ASCII-to-WordStar for ZCPR3 --Keith Petersen Arpa: W8SDZ@SIMTEL20.ARPA Uucp: {bellcore,decwrl,harvard,lll-crg,ucbvax,uw-beaver}!simtel20.arpa!w8sdz GEnie Mail: W8SDZ RCP/M Royal Oak: 313-759-6569 (300, 1200, 2400 bps) 5-Feb-87 09:42:52-MST,742;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Thu 5 Feb 87 09:42:45-MST Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa04287; 5 Feb 87 9:00 EST Received: from DOCKMASTER.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa04252; 5 Feb 87 8:40 EST Date: Thu, 5 Feb 87 08:38 EST From: "Paul E. Woodie" Subject: c64 to cpm To: info-cpm@AMSAA-SEER.ARPA Message-ID: <870205133856.699541@DOCKMASTER.ARPA> Can anyone point me to some software that will allow a Commodore 64 to write a disk that can then be read by an Osborne Executive (or some other ssdd cpm format? Thanks, Paul Woodie (Woodie -at dockmaster) 5-Feb-87 15:41:11-MST,2034;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Thu 5 Feb 87 15:41:00-MST Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa05495; 5 Feb 87 12:59 EST Received: from NADC.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa05466; 5 Feb 87 12:19 EST Date: 5 Feb 1987 12:10:41-EST From: prindle@nadc.arpa To: info-cpm@AMSAA-SEER.ARPA, woodie@DOCKMASTER.arpa Subject: re: c64 to cpm Message-ID: <8702051219.aa05466@AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA> Unless you own the unlikely combination of a C64 and a C1571 (not 1541) disk drive, you cannot write a CP/M diskette for Osborne, Epson, etc. The reason is that the 1541 disk drive *cannot* write MFM or FM format diskettes as used by virtually every other system except APPLE. These drives write only a form of NRZ encoding called GCR (Group Code Recording) - totally unreadable by any other drive without special hardware/controller. This was the basic reason why C64 CP/M never seriously caught on - there was no way, other than via modem, to get programs in or out! And even with a 1571 drive hooked to a C64, I know of no utilities written explicitly for the 64 to do the necessary copy. On the other hand, there are several public domain utilities for the C128 with C1571 disk drive, which will copy files from normal CBM format to any of a variety of CP/M formats, Osborne MFM being one of the defaults. I believe the C128 CP/M program RDCBM20 (see [SIMTEL20]PD:RDCBM20.LBR) would be the easiest to use, and it does the necessary translation for text files from Commodore character set to ASCII. The latest Commodore FORMAT.COM utility will allow you to format an Osborne diskette too (not sure about the Osborne Executive though - maybe just the Osborne 1). So if this conversion you require is a one-time process, beg or borrow a 128 to do the job. The 1571 will read the C64/1541 diskettes just fine. Sincerely, Frank Prindle Prindle@NADC.arpa 5-Feb-87 17:10:17-MST,689;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Thu 5 Feb 87 17:10:00-MST Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa05067; 5 Feb 87 11:31 EST Received: from WISCVM.WISC.EDU by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa04996; 5 Feb 87 10:58 EST Received: from SUVM.BITNET by wiscvm.wisc.edu on 02/05/87 at 09:35:57 CST Date: Thu, 05 Feb 87 10:32:18 LCL To: info-cpm@AMSAA-SEER.ARPA From: JMCAA262@suvm.bitnet Message-ID: <8702051059.aa04996@AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA> Date: 5 February 1987, 10:31:53 LCL From: JMCAA262 at SUVM To: INFO-CPM@AMSAA-SEER.ARPA at ARPA send help 9-Feb-87 09:19:31-MST,866;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Mon 9 Feb 87 09:19:13-MST Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.amsaa-seer.ARPA id aa00664; 9 Feb 87 9:16 EST Received: from BRL-ADM.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa00563; 9 Feb 87 8:43 EST Received: from USENET by ADM.BRL.ARPA id aa21240; 8 Feb 87 22:05 EST From: ACD Divisional Account Newsgroups: comp.os.cpm Subject: Eagle 2e \\iv IV diagnostic software Message-ID: <522@hao.UCAR.EDU> Date: 9 Feb 87 02:12:14 GMT Keywords: cpm diagnostic Eagkles help To: info-cpm@AMSAA-SEER.ARPA Please someone out there in the real world help me obtain the diagnostics for my old eagle computer. William E. Bradley c/o NCAR PO BOX 3000 BOULDER, COLORADO 80307-3000 9-Feb-87 11:31:50-MST,2361;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Mon 9 Feb 87 11:30:41-MST Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.amsaa-seer.ARPA id aa24398; 9 Feb 87 10:40 EST Received: from BRL-ADM.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa00842; 9 Feb 87 9:29 EST Received: from USENET by ADM.BRL.ARPA id aa05901; 7 Feb 87 8:57 EST From: Jon Krueger Newsgroups: comp.os.cpm Subject: Re: C-Compiler for CP/M-80 wanted Message-ID: <999@ur-tut.UUCP> Date: 30 Jan 87 20:43:57 GMT To: info-cpm@AMSAA-SEER.ARPA In article <3173@brl-adm.ARPA> Ralf Bayer writes: >I'm looking for a C-Compiler that runs in the CP/M-80 environment. I've just gotten delivery on the MIX C compiler for CP/M. In several respects it doesn't meet your needs... >it MUST create 8080-object code (NOT Z-80) nope it must create ROMable code, separate DATA and CODE segments. maybe >code must be able to run standalone, without the CP/M environment no, or at least, not as such >it should be interlinkable with assembly language routines, > preferrable compatible with the RMAC-package. maybe, asm() calls are certainly there ...but I'm happy with it in almost all other respects. It is a commercial product, that runs right out of the box without apologies or compromises. It supports a number of function libraries for bdos and bios calls; there's also an ms-dos version, so there are functions for each. It supports a FULL Kernighan and Ritchie C. Compiles are slow and it generates (to date) unimpressive code. But it supports everything: all data types, structures, assignments to structures, enumeration, the works. Comes with a few useful tools -- object code speed or space optimizing, bin-to-ascii conversion. Supports i/o redirection from command line. All in all a good buy at $40, everything works *so far*, and I can recommend it as a user. I have no relation with the company other than as a satisfied customer. MIX may be called at 1-800-523-9520, or you can mail your check to 2116 East Arataho, Suite 363, Richardson TX, 75081. -- jon -- Jon Krueger Department of Necessary Evil University of Rochester uucp: {seismo, allegra, decvax}!rochester!ur-tut!tuba BITNET: TUBA@UORDBV 9-Feb-87 12:34:02-MST,1755;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Mon 9 Feb 87 12:33:54-MST Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.amsaa-seer.ARPA id ac24398; 9 Feb 87 11:16 EST Received: from WISCVM.WISC.EDU by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa00846; 9 Feb 87 9:30 EST Received: from RPICICGE.BITNET by wiscvm.wisc.edu on 02/09/87 at 08:29:53 CST Received: by RPICICGE (Mailer X1.23) id 1300; Mon, 09 Feb 87 09:28:36 EST Date: Mon, 09 Feb 87 08:59:51 EST From: "John S. Fisher" To: INFO-CPM@AMSAA-SEER.ARPA Subject: Wisconsin gateway gripes Message-ID: <8702090930.aa00846@AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA> In light of the present transitory (I hope) difficulties with the Wisconsin gateway between BITNET and ARPANET, it seems appropriate to ask: Are we demanding a little too much from the gateway? I don't know the terms and conditions under which the WISCVM gate operates, but I assume the improperly coerced "From:" address problem was not done in malice. At any rate, the gate is there and works, and generally works well. Can we help it work better? How many Info-CPM members are on the BITNET side of Wisconsin? Just guessing, I would say I get 50 or so Info-CPM items per week. ...that times however many of us there are over here I am sure represents a lot of traffic through the gate. Should we set up a single BITNET host as the redistribution point for all Info-CPM traffic to BITNET-land? As maintainer of my host and its mail services I can offer RPICICGE for that function. The redistribution functions already exist; all that is needed is the mailing list.... J.S.Fisher Bitnet: FISHER@RPICICGE 9-Feb-87 16:43:37-MST,1111;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Mon 9 Feb 87 16:40:39-MST Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.amsaa-seer.ARPA id ab24398; 9 Feb 87 11:03 EST Received: from BRL-ADM.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id ab00842; 9 Feb 87 9:30 EST Received: from USENET by ADM.BRL.ARPA id aa07473; 7 Feb 87 10:32 EST From: "R. L. Zarling" Newsgroups: comp.os.cpm Subject: Re: c64 to cpm Message-ID: <437@csustan.UUCP> Date: 6 Feb 87 22:41:16 GMT To: info-cpm@AMSAA-SEER.ARPA In article <4272@brl-adm.ARPA> prindle@nadc.arpa writes: > The latest Commodore FORMAT.COM >utility will allow you to format an Osborne diskette too (not sure about the >Osborne Executive though - maybe just the Osborne 1). I have not heard of a "new" FORMAT.COM before-- Where/how does one get it? My 128 came with an old cpm version, and the FORMAT doesn't even do single sided disks (the menu says it does, but...). I presume that has been fixed, too? 10-Feb-87 10:02:21-MST,1791;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Tue 10 Feb 87 10:02:08-MST Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa00159; 10 Feb 87 8:53 EST Received: from NADC.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa18678; 10 Feb 87 8:31 EST Date: 10 Feb 1987 08:25:53-EST From: prindle@nadc.arpa To: info-cpm@AMSAA-SEER.ARPA, rayz@csustan.uucp, brl@nadc.arpa MMDF-Warning: Parse error in original version of preceding line at AMSAA-SEER.ARPA Subject: re: re: c64 to CP/M Message-ID: <8702100831.aa18678@AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA> The C128 CP/M utility FORMAT.COM distributed with early 128s only did three formats - all were GCR, all formated both sides of the disk (on a 1571), and two of them marked the disk as single sided in track 18, sector 0. The GCR portion of the C1571 DOS just doesn't have an option to only format one side. The only way to get a true "flippy" CP/M diskette formatted is to force the drive into 1541 (aka "oh-so-slow") mode (send U0>M0 to the command channel), then boot up (from a single sided system disk) and ask FORMAT to do one of the single sided formats. The CP/M diskettes distributed by Commodore are "flippy" and not double sided because some masochist may be trying to run CP/M with only a 1541 drive. The newer FORMAT.COM (which I assume is being distributed with 128s now, and on the new CP/M release, 8 Dec 85) will do the above 3, plus format a number of MFM formats. I got my copy off of either GENIE or COMPUSERVE, I can't remem- ber which, a long time ago. I will upload it to SIMTEL20 (where the rest of the 6/8 Dec 85 updated CP/M software resides) with Commodore's permission. Frank Prindle Prindle@NADC.arpa 10-Feb-87 11:15:48-MST,1443;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Tue 10 Feb 87 11:15:41-MST Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa00070; 10 Feb 87 12:30 EST Received: from NCSC.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa21599; 10 Feb 87 11:08 EST Received: by ncsc.ARPA id AA02688; Tue, 10 Feb 87 09:49:45 cst Date: Tue, 10 Feb 87 09:49:45 cst From: Brown Message-Id: <8702101549.AA02688@ncsc.ARPA> To: brl@nadc.arpa, info-cpm@AMSAA-SEER.ARPA, nadc.csustan!rayz@arpa.arpa, prindle@nadc.arpa Subject: re: re: c64 to CP/M I got my C128 this past Christmas which had the 8 Dec 1985 release (at least thats the date returned with no date set), but the FORMAT that came with it only has a menu for 128-double, 128-single, and 64-single formats. I can comfirm that 128-single also zaps 'side-2' on a 1571. I tried to make a 'flippy' for a friend with 128 stuff on one side and CP/M on the other. I did the 128 side first, then went to CP/M and formatted what I thought was the 'other side'. Luckily, I then went back to 128 mode to print the directory (which I had forgotten to do) and 128 DOS was somewhat confused by the disk. Anyway, sounds like Commodore is still distributing the '2 1/2 option' FORMAT.COM. Maybe the version from GENIE and/or COMPUSERVE is an 'enhanced' version. David Brown jdb@ncsc 10-Feb-87 11:32:45-MST,662;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA.ARPA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Tue 10 Feb 87 11:32:31-MST Received: from AMSAA.ARPA by AMSAA.AMSAA.ARPA id aa15888; 10 Feb 87 12:04 EST Received: from BRL-VAT.ARPA by AMSAA.AMSAA.ARPA id aa15592; 10 Feb 87 11:35 EST Date: Tue, 10 Feb 87 11:33:17 EST From: Earl Weaver (VLD/ASB) To: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA Subject: Konan Disk Controller Message-ID: <8702101133.aa01125@VAT.BRL.ARPA> I'm looking for a used (working) Konan KDC-230 Disk Controller. If you have one you're no longer using and want to part with it, please let me know and how much you want. 10-Feb-87 21:03:24-MST,1585;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Tue 10 Feb 87 21:03:17-MST Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa03784; 10 Feb 87 19:15 EST Received: from BRL-ADM.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa03778; 10 Feb 87 18:52 EST Received: from USENET by ADM.BRL.ARPA id aa11874; 10 Feb 87 18:45 EST From: dickow%ui3.uucp@BRL.arpa Newsgroups: comp.os.cpm Subject: Software for TAB1630 desired... Message-ID: <550001@ui3.UUCP> Date: 3 Feb 87 04:09:54 GMT To: info-cpm@AMSAA-SEER.ARPA blug... I have a couple of TAB 1630 microcomputers that run CP/M 86 on 8 inch disks. The problem...no software to speak of. The machines were donated to our institution without any applications software, although I do have the system utilities, etc. If anyone knows the wherabouts of some cheap or free (pub domain) languages, word processors/editors, that might run on our setup, please let me know. I'd like to arrange to trade for disks. As far as format goes, I can't even tell that, but I think it would be equivalent to a DEC Rainbow. These TABs, which use 8086 CPUs, are so poorly supported that not even the manufacturer knows how it is set up, nor does the company seem to know where I can get a manual on it. (I called 'em up!). Your help would be MOST APPRECIATED. (P.S. I did find a big PD CP/M catalog, but the CP/M 86 section listed very little, though I can get Tiny C and a Forth from them.) Bob Dickow (...egg-id!ui3!dickow) 11-Feb-87 06:39:25-MST,985;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA.ARPA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Wed 11 Feb 87 06:39:15-MST Received: from AMSAA.ARPA by AMSAA.AMSAA.ARPA id aa03316; 11 Feb 87 7:41 EST Received: from RAMSTEIN2-EMH.ARPA by AMSAA.AMSAA.ARPA id aa03218; 11 Feb 87 7:30 EST Date: 11 Feb 87 12:18:43 GMT From: hqsili@ramstein2-emh.arpa Subject: download files help To: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA CC: hqsili@ramstein2-emh.arpa Message-ID: <8702110730.aa03218@AMSAA.AMSAA.ARPA> help, i would like three volumes of the sig-m library downloaded to a floppy diskett. i know that they exist on the simtel20 host and i can ftp them to my host but i am havivg trouble with my hosts downloading to my micro. i need sig/m volumes are 236, 249, and 250. if anybody can help me i would appreciate it. i am in west germany with the us military and would send diskettes if anyone would help. thank you very much. i am ed carlsen at hqsili@ramstein2-emh. 11-Feb-87 06:40:40-MST,1260;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Wed 11 Feb 87 06:40:01-MST Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa05180; 11 Feb 87 6:38 EST Received: from SIMTEL20.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa05173; 11 Feb 87 6:26 EST Date: Fri, 6 Feb 1987 23:42 MST Message-ID: Sender: KPETERSEN@SIMTEL20.arpa From: Keith Petersen To: Info-Cpm@AMSAA-SEER.ARPA, Info-Micro@BRL.arpa Subject: New Info-Modems mailing list Announcing a new Internet mailing list INFO-MODEMS@SIMTEL20.ARPA, a discussion group of special interest to modem users. Info-Modems is gatewayed to/from Uucp's "comp.dcom.modems". The mail archives on SIMTEL20 for this list are: MODEMS-ARCHIV.TXT for the current messages MODEMS.ARCHIV.ymmdd for the older messages The files are available via ANONYMOUS FTP for those with TCP/IP access to the Internet. Submissions to the group should be addressed to Info-MODEMS@SIMTEL20.ARPA and administrative requests to Info-MODEMS-Request@SIMTEL20.ARPA. --Keith Petersen 11-Feb-87 14:46:24-MST,1347;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Wed 11 Feb 87 14:46:07-MST Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa00748; 11 Feb 87 11:59 EST Received: from WISCVM.WISC.EDU by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa00578; 11 Feb 87 11:22 EST Received: from HNYKUN11.BITNET by wiscvm.wisc.edu on 02/11/87 at 08:24:26 CST Date: Wed, 11 Feb 87 15:07:53 MET To: info-cpm@AMSAA-SEER.ARPA From: U267105%HNYKUN11.BITNET@wiscvm.wisc.EDU Return-Receipt-To: U267105@HNYKUN11.BITNET Subject: CP/M on the Commodore 64 Message-ID: <8702111124.aa00578@AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA> Date: 11 February 1987, 14:59:00 MET From: Jos Grote Punt 080-566793 U267105 at HNYKUN11 To: INFO-CPM at AMSAA-SEER Recently I received a CP/M cartridge for the Commodore 64. I know everyone would advise me to use a C-128 to do CP/M, but at the moment I have no money to buy one. I got this strange problem: on some machines the cartridge works, on others it doesn't. And every time the 64 hangs at an other moment, sometimes after 1 asterisk (there's an asterisk for every sector that gets loaded during a cold boot), sometimes after 3 or 4 (there should be 28 !!). Does anyone know about differences between individual C-64's ?? 11-Feb-87 20:47:38-MST,1086;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Wed 11 Feb 87 20:47:30-MST Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id ab22648; 11 Feb 87 21:50 EST Received: from NADC.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa22636; 11 Feb 87 21:28 EST Date: 11 Feb 1987 21:27:03-EST From: prindle@nadc.arpa To: info-cpm@AMSAA-SEER.ARPA Subject: again - CP/M on the Commodore 64 Message-ID: <8702112128.aa22636@AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA> Marc Wilson claims that the *newer* video chips work ok with the C64 CP/M cartridge and the *older* ones don't. It is my understanding that it is the other way around, as I stated in my previous message: the CP/M cartridge works fine with the *older* video chip, does not work at all with the *newer* video chip. I believe, as a result of this, the Federal Trade Commission ordered Commodore to refund the money of anyone who ever bought a CP/M cartridge and subsequently did not want it because it wouldn't work with newer 64s. Frank Prindle 11-Feb-87 21:29:54-MST,1085;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Wed 11 Feb 87 21:29:48-MST Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa22101; 11 Feb 87 17:29 EST Received: from NOSC.MIL by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa22089; 11 Feb 87 17:01 EST Received: by bass.nosc.mil (5.31/4.7) id AA02120; Wed, 11 Feb 87 14:01:23 PST Received: by crash.CTS.COM (5.9/UUCP-Project/rel-1.0/09-14-86) id AA09309; Wed, 11 Feb 87 13:57:21 PST Message-Id: <8702112157.AA09309@crash.CTS.COM> Date: Wed, 11 Feb 87 13:49:18 PST From: Marc Wilson To: crash!info-cpm <@nosc.MIL:crash!info-cpm@AMSAA-SEER.ARPA> Subject: Re: CP/M on the Commodore 64 There was a problem with early versions of the 64 and the CP/M cartridge. It had to do with timing differences between the video chip and the Z80 in the cartridge. Newer 64's have newer VIC chips, and the problem doesn't show up. Your CP/M system may also be glitched. Does the drive light blink when booting? 11-Feb-87 22:22:28-MST,1624;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Wed 11 Feb 87 22:22:20-MST Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa22648; 11 Feb 87 21:43 EST Received: from NADC.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa22634; 11 Feb 87 21:28 EST Date: 11 Feb 1987 21:21:01-EST From: prindle@nadc.arpa To: info-cpm@AMSAA-SEER.ARPA Subject: re: CP/M on the Commodore 64 Message-ID: <8702112128.aa22634@AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA> The reason that the CP/M cartridge works on some 64s and not on others is that newer 64s have an improved VIC II chip which produces proper NTSC video (the old one had a bug and divided a clock by 64 instead of 65, or something like that, which produced garbled color video). The newer chip produces a slightly different (1 or 2 percent) processor clock timing and the CP/M cartridge fails to operate correctly. The only cure is to use an older VIC II chip - if you are using a Commodore 1701/1702/1802/1902 monitor with the separated video input, the old chip looks as good as the new one. Only the composite video is screwed up. Thus, if you have a friend with a C64 with the old VIC II chip but no CP/M cartridge, do both of you a favor and trade chips with him - he gets a better composite display if that matters, and you get a working CP/M cartridge. The VIC II chip is the large chip to the left side under the metal "can" - it has a blob of heat-sink compound on the top that a spring presses on when the cover is replacd. Sincerely, Frank Prindle Prindle@NADC.arpa 12-Feb-87 01:06:36-MST,1411;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Thu 12 Feb 87 01:06:29-MST Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa22714; 11 Feb 87 22:36 EST Received: from NCSC.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa22705; 11 Feb 87 22:18 EST Received: by ncsc.ARPA id AA20964; Wed, 11 Feb 87 21:17:08 cst Date: Wed, 11 Feb 87 21:17:08 cst From: Brown Message-Id: <8702120317.AA20964@ncsc.ARPA> To: U267105@hnykun11.bitnet, info-cpm@AMSAA-SEER.ARPA Subject: Re: CP/M on the Commodore 64 The current issue of RUN (March 87) has a response to a letter to Commodore Clinic on a different subject (problems with the ram expanders on early C128s) which hints at a similar problem with the C64 CP/M cartridge. The letter and response are on page 92 The guy with the ram expander is treatening to sue or turn them in to the Federal Trade Commission for false advertising. The answer says that Commodore had some trouble with the Feds over the C64 CP/M problem and promised they would stop advertising products and features not actually available. Maybe you have some legal recourse if one of the C64s that won't run the CP/M is yours. You might even get Commodore to replace yours (but its doubtful) if you threaten to bring this up with the FTC again. David Brown jdb@ncsc 12-Feb-87 05:44:19-MST,1065;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Thu 12 Feb 87 05:44:10-MST Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa23510; 12 Feb 87 6:56 EST Received: from BRL-ADM.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa23499; 12 Feb 87 6:40 EST Received: from USENET by ADM.BRL.ARPA id aa05921; 12 Feb 87 6:17 EST From: Herber Newsgroups: comp.os.cpm,comp.sys.tandy Subject: Asking about CP/M availability for TRS-80(tm-Tandy) Model 4p Message-ID: <2953@ihlpa.UUCP> Date: 12 Feb 87 04:20:38 GMT To: info-cpm@AMSAA-SEER.ARPA I recently acquired a TRS-80(tm-Tandy) Model 4p. I am looking for a public domain CP/M or CP/M BIOS for the machine. I am also interested in recommendations for inexpensive versions of the same (inexpensive is defined in this case as <= $100US). Are there any versions that are being marketed that I should consider avoiding? Please, respond via E-mail. Randolph J. Herber, ..!ihnp4!ihlpa!rjh, 12-Feb-87 10:05:01-MST,1865;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Thu 12 Feb 87 10:04:37-MST Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa23542; 12 Feb 87 7:16 EST Received: from NMFECC.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa23515; 12 Feb 87 6:55 EST Received: from oak.sainet.mfenet by ccx.mfenet with MfeMail ; Thu, 12 Feb 87 03:53:23 PST Date: Thu, 12 Feb 87 03:53:23 PST From: SECRIST%OAK.SAINET.MFENET@nmfecc.arpa Message-Id: <870212035323.038@nmfecc.arpa> To: INFO-CPM@AMSAA-SEER.ARPA From: SECRIST@OAK.SAINET.MFENET To: INFO-CPM@AMSAA-SEER.ARPA From: (Richard C. Secrist) To: INFO-CPM@AMSAA-SEER.Arpa Subject: C64 CP/M woes Date: Thu, 12-FEB-1987 06:53 EST Header-Disclaimer: I don't like my headers either ! X-VMS-Mail-To: CPM I was bitten by the same series of events that have been discussed with the C64 cartridges. I called CBM a couple of months ago and they still offer full refunds for the price of the cartridge or offer to swap an equal amount of CBM software; I protested and said I just wanted CP/M to work - and could they sell me an old VIC-II chip... and they said no, but confirmed the story Frank and the others have retold here - but recommended strongly against such a plan because it seems the CP/M cartridge is so fragile that they do not guarantee that even the VIC-swap will work. Frank, et.al.: how bad does the composite get ? I have a very small 5" monitor (just bigger than Osborne-1 sized) in my portable CBM SX-64 (the ones liquidated by COMB) and use my composite all of the time to augment that display... if it looses too badly I'll have to give up on the cartridge maybe. Opinions ? rcs SECRIST%OAK.SAInet.MFEnet@nmfecc.Arpa 17-Feb-87 08:35:52-MST,985;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Tue 17 Feb 87 08:35:14-MST Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa08280; 17 Feb 87 8:54 EST Received: from BRL-ADM.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa08372; 12 Feb 87 15:18 EST Received: from USENET by ADM.BRL.ARPA id aa15488; 12 Feb 87 15:09 EST From: jeffj%sfsup.uucp@BRL.arpa Newsgroups: comp.os.cpm,comp.misc Subject: anybody else have a big board/Insight/Servo system? Message-ID: <1108@sfsup.UUCP> Date: 12 Feb 87 02:33:15 GMT To: info-cpm@AMSAA-SEER.ARPA [] I would like to get in touch with anybody who has ANY of the following systems: Xerox 820/Big Board Insight Servo 8 They are all Z80 based, and I want to know if there are any user's groups, especially now that Insight computers is kaput. Jeffrey 'paper based lifeform' Jonas {ihnp4 | allegra | cbosgd} attunix ! jeffj 17-Feb-87 09:46:39-MST,643;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Tue 17 Feb 87 09:44:55-MST Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id ab08280; 17 Feb 87 9:12 EST Received: from SHARK.NOSC.MIL by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa09559; 12 Feb 87 15:26 EST Date: Thu, 12 Feb 87 11:18:09 PST From: Ted Medin To: info-cpm@AMSAA-SEER.ARPA Subject: name change Message-ID: Current name "medin@nosc" change to "medin@nosc.mil" Thanks Ted 17-Feb-87 12:11:34-MST,1334;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Tue 17 Feb 87 12:10:53-MST Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id ad08280; 17 Feb 87 9:58 EST Received: from DMC-CRC.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa03776; 14 Feb 87 15:06 EST Received: by dmc-crc.ARPA (4.12/4.7) id AA03329; Sat, 14 Feb 87 14:51:48 est Date: Sat, 14 Feb 87 14:51:48 est From: "G. J. Marwood" Message-Id: <8702141951.AA03329@dmc-crc.ARPA> To: -v@dmc-crc.arpa, info-cpm@AMSAA-SEER.ARPA Subject: MEX+ Keystrings I should like to implement MEX+ softkey definitions to set up other key definitions, e.g. KEY K="KEY Q="QUIT^M"^MKEY O="STAT RUB OFF^M"". The point of this is to set up MEX with customized softkeys when calling a particular remote system. The problem is the "quotes within quotes" which MEX cannot interpret correctly. One solution would be to specify a LOAD NAME.KEY within a softkey string, but that is slower and requires and extra file to be maintained (NAME.KEY). Does anyone have any ideas how this problem may be avoided. Specifying characters within the keystring definition with the binary /O option does not help. Gordon Marwood 17-Feb-87 14:16:12-MST,1378;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA.ARPA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Tue 17 Feb 87 14:15:28-MST Received: from AMSAA.ARPA by AMSAA.AMSAA.ARPA id aa29197; 17 Feb 87 11:55 EST Received: from CS.ROCHESTER.EDU by AMSAA.AMSAA.ARPA id aa29018; 17 Feb 87 11:44 EST Received: by Cayuga.cs.Rochester.Edu (5.52/a) id AA17630; Tue, 17 Feb 87 11:44:05 EST Received: from loopback by ur-seneca.arpa id AA25315 (4.12z); Tue, 17 Feb 87 11:43:44 est Message-Id: <8702171643.25315@ur-seneca.arpa> To: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA Subject: Re: TEX on CP/M X-Newsgroups: comp.os.cpm In-Reply-To: <4489@brl-adm.ARPA> X-Organization: U of Rochester, CS Dept, Rochester, NY X-Uucp: ..!{allegra,decvax,seismo}!rochester!ken ARPA: ken@rochester.arpa X-Snail: CS Dept., U. of Roch., NY 14627. Voice: Ken! Date: Tue, 17 Feb 87 11:43:40 -0500 From: SKY TeX probably has no chance of fitting on any 8 bit micro. There are commercial TeX's for MSDOS. The problem with porting the software yourself is that TeX is a good torture test of Pascal compilers. There is also a C version. You can FTP TeX sources from score.stanford.edu at off-peak hours. The problem is not just porting TeX, you have to bring up the fonts and device drivers. There is a lot of code and data involved. The Unix TeX tape has 35 Mb of goodies. Ken 17-Feb-87 16:44:14-MST,1304;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Tue 17 Feb 87 16:44:01-MST Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id ae08280; 17 Feb 87 10:19 EST Received: from DMC-CRC.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa05209; 15 Feb 87 19:04 EST Received: by dmc-crc.ARPA (4.12/4.7) id AA04607; Sun, 15 Feb 87 18:49:38 est Date: Sun, 15 Feb 87 18:49:38 est From: "G. J. Marwood" Message-Id: <8702152349.AA04607@dmc-crc.ARPA> To: -v@dmc-crc.arpa, info-cpm@AMSAA-SEER.ARPA Subject: Applicard Ramdisk In the file Aplicard-review.1 (SIMTEL20 pd:, Rick Thomas suggests that the Applicard can run a Ramdisk of up to "half a meg". I am familiar with the 128K (unformatted) piggyback cards for the Applicard and I use two of these to give 222K formatted. However, I have never heard of "half a meg" being available. Can anyone provide any information about this, please ? Also for the Applicard, I understand that a SIO piggyback board was also produced. Does anyone know whether this is still available and what the source might be (ref. SIMTEL20 file PD:pcpi-sio.lbr.1). thanks in advance Gordon 17-Feb-87 17:19:26-MST,1598;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Tue 17 Feb 87 17:18:54-MST Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id af08280; 17 Feb 87 10:41 EST Received: from SIMTEL20.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa05654; 16 Feb 87 2:20 EST Date: 12 Jan 87 16:16:37 GMT Message-ID: Sender: Stephen Coan From: Stephen Coan Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Updated CPM for CBM ReSent-From: KPETERSEN@SIMTEL20.arpa ReSent-To: "Info-Cpm at AMSAA-SEER.ARPA"@SIMTEL20.arpa ReSent-Date: Mon 16 Feb 1987 00:20-MST For those looking for updated CPM for their C-128's, I have some hope. I just read this morning in the most recent issue of COMPUTE!S GAZETTE that Commodore is replacing the 128's CPM disk with an upgrade for $5. Just make sure you have a complete copy of the original disk, and send it with the $5 to Commodore to get the newest stuff. I'm sorry that I don't have the address at hand, as I didn't think I would be posting this to answer the question as to how to get a CPM upgrade. I plan on sending mine in shortly, just to be sure I have up-to-date software. I imagine (just guessing here) that the address given in the C-128 manual for Commodore replacement of the CPM disk (should something happen to it) would be adequate for the above purpose as well. -- Steve Coan tektronix!tekgen!stephenc (503) 627-1794 17-Feb-87 17:58:18-MST,1370;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Tue 17 Feb 87 17:58:08-MST Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id ag08280; 17 Feb 87 11:06 EST Received: from BRL-ADM.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa05664; 16 Feb 87 2:38 EST Received: from USENET by ADM.BRL.ARPA id aa15678; 16 Feb 87 2:33 EST From: "Dr. Snuggles" Newsgroups: comp.os.cpm Subject: Profiles/Kaypro Magazine Message-ID: <796@crash.CTS.COM> Date: 16 Feb 87 00:55:23 GMT To: info-cpm@AMSAA-SEER.ARPA I have been told (by someone who claims to work for Proline magazine) that begginning with the April issue the CP/M and MSDOS sections will be recombined into ONE magazine. This magazine will still available on the newstands or B.Dalton's bookstores... (Impartial?= Heck, I heard this while working a B. Dalton's!) -- Victor O'Rear {hplabs!hp-sdd, akgua, sdcsvax, nosc}!crash!victoro ARPA: crash!victoro@nosc and the Byte Information eXchange [victoro] Mail Stop: Star Trek Association for Revival - San Diego Post Awful Box 15373, San Diego, Calif. 92115 (15 Years old) Announcement Machine: (619) 589-0404 (Sometimes it Answers Too) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 17-Feb-87 18:36:27-MST,1142;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Tue 17 Feb 87 18:36:10-MST Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id ah08280; 17 Feb 87 11:25 EST Received: from WISCVM.WISC.EDU by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa06128; 16 Feb 87 11:30 EST Received: from HLERUL5.BITNET by wiscvm.wisc.edu on 02/16/87 at 10:30:22 CST Date: Mon, 16 Feb 87 16:48 N From: SINGPANG%HLERUL5.BITNET@wiscvm.wisc.EDU MMDF-Warning: Parse error in original version of preceding line at AMSAA-SEER.ARPA Subject: TEX on CP/M To: info-cpm@AMSAA-SEER.ARPA X-Original-To: info-cpm@amsaa-seer.arpa, SINGPANG Message-ID: <8702161130.aa06128@AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA> Hello all, does anyone know of a version of the wordprocessor TEX from D.Knuth for CP/M 2.2 or MSDOS?. I understand there is a public domain source of the program in PASCAL. Does anyone have it?? CAn someone tell me the difference between TYPELZ and the other programs that axist to type, unpack?? crunched files (with extension *.?z?). Thanks in advance Marc 17-Feb-87 19:25:17-MST,1302;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Tue 17 Feb 87 19:24:56-MST Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id ai08280; 17 Feb 87 11:41 EST Received: from BRL-ADM.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa07204; 17 Feb 87 2:06 EST Received: from USENET by ADM.BRL.ARPA id aa22785; 17 Feb 87 1:57 EST From: "Robert N. Perry (Bob" MMDF-Warning: Parse error in original version of preceding line at BRL.ARPA Newsgroups: comp.os.cpm Subject: Need VT-180 (ROBIN) S/W Message-ID: <643@tekcae.TEK.COM> Date: 16 Feb 87 18:38:10 GMT To: info-cpm@AMSAA-SEER.ARPA I have just appropriated a DEC VT-180, known internally to DEC as the ROBIN. This was the forerunner to the DECMATE, as I understand it. I would like to know if anyone could tell me where I could find some software for it. I'm looking for a 'C' compiler, any CPM utilities, games, and anything else I can get my hands on. It has a Z80 processor and is currently running CPM v2.2 . Thanks in advance. -- Robert N. Perry (Bob) - Tektronix, Inc. - Beaverton, Oregon bobp%tekcae@tektronix.TEK.COM "When I works, I works hard. When I sits, I sits easy. When I thinks, I goes to sleep." 17-Feb-87 21:40:21-MST,3491;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Tue 17 Feb 87 21:40:03-MST Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id ac08280; 17 Feb 87 9:39 EST Received: from BRL-ADM.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa29167; 13 Feb 87 11:23 EST Received: from USENET by ADM.BRL.ARPA id aa28887; 13 Feb 87 11:06 EST From: "Jay C. Bowden" Newsgroups: comp.os.cpm,comp.sys.ibm.pc Subject: Review (short) of Talking Board Message-ID: <1370@loral.UUCP> Date: 13 Feb 87 04:55:14 GMT Keywords: speech chips To: info-cpm@AMSAA-SEER.ARPA I got my B. G. Micro speech card the other night, so here is a preliminary report. The board plugs into an IBM-PC or clone, but takes only power from the bus; you have to have a COM1 or 2 port that you can connect to the thing around back. When I got it, I checked the baud rate, set it to 1200 for my system, and hooked it to my com port via a pin-for-pin cable, re-directed LPT to COM, hit control-P, and it spoke. And how well does it speak, this is the burning question. Not that well. I fed it some text files, and it was often intelligible....but it fouls up an awful lot of common words. Like "files". Just "file" sounds great, but it pronounces "files" like "feels". What it clearly needs is a filter prog in front of it that catches words and massages the output. Which brings me to the software they supply. It says COMPUTALKER DEMO DISK, and has a trivial example of making an autoexec file copy a file to the COM1: port. The only prog the have is called WORDLIST, and is supplied in basic source and also .EXE compiled versions. All this prog seems to do is allow you to make up a list of words vs. what you really want to send to the thing to sound like that word (eg. files -> file ss). You can save this list to disk. But, as far as I can see, there is no way to use this list unless you write your own prog to do it. Physical Aspects: The speaker mounted to the PC board is too high to allow another board in the next slot; I took it off. There is a RCA phono jack on the back of the card in parallel with the built-in speaker. No volume control, but a place for one on the PC board.... I reached into my drawer to get a 10K pot & soldered it in (you don't have a drawer like that? There's always Radio Shack...). Since it does NOT interface to the PC bus, it would be easy to use on any other system, if you could get the +5,+12 and -12V somewhere (hmm.. I see the -12 coming in from the connector on the schematic, but I don't see it going anywhere... the +5 feeds the allophone chip and the text-to-speech chip, and the +12 feeds the audio amp.) By the way, the chips are the General Instrument SP0256-AL2 allophone chip, and the CTS256-AL2 code-to-speech chip, which has a built-in UART. There is also a 2K RAM chip for buffering the ASCII stream, and a socket for an Exception EPROM you could make to improve specific situations if you have the chip data sheets. Misc. They supply a schematic, and about a page or so of notes.. but the chip details like you get from Radio Shack if you buy the chips are not included. I'd be glad to answer any specific questions. A heck of a bargain at $89.95, from: B. G. Micro P. O. Box 280298 Dallas, Texas 75228 (214) 271-5546 MC/Visa accepted! - Jay 17-Feb-87 23:39:28-MST,1698;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Tue 17 Feb 87 23:39:19-MST Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa00536; 17 Feb 87 20:00 EST Received: from BRL-ADM.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa00192; 17 Feb 87 16:43 EST Received: from USENET by ADM.BRL.ARPA id aa04998; 17 Feb 87 16:16 EST From: Chris Gray Newsgroups: comp.os.cpm Subject: What happened to Draco? Message-ID: <473@myrias.UUCP> Date: 14 Feb 87 00:46:23 GMT To: info-cpm@AMSAA-SEER.ARPA If this is a duplicate, I apologize - our poster was broken. A couple of months ago (November?), as I understand it, a shareware compiler of mine, called Draco, was to be placed on the Simtel-20 archives. The only mention of it on the net that I saw was something to the effect that the standard librarian wouldn't unpack the libraries (apparently created on an MSDOS system) that were used, and that that program was being fixed. Has this been done? Has anybody used Draco? Any reactions to it, or to the programs (screen editor, tools, adventure system, CRT games) that were included in the package? As near as I can tell, the quality of the package is on par with the commercial compilers, so I had thought to hear something from someone. (It's only problem being that it's not C, Pascal or Modula-2). I'm finally breaking down and asking this because I'm getting close to the point of having my Amiga version ready, and would appreciate any feedback on the CP/M-80 version before I go ahead with it. Chris Gray {ubc-vision,sask,ihnp4}!alberta!myrias!cg 18-Feb-87 04:16:44-MST,1847;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Wed 18 Feb 87 04:16:26-MST Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa01447; 18 Feb 87 4:26 EST Received: from BRL-ADM.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa01273; 18 Feb 87 2:33 EST Received: from USENET by ADM.BRL.ARPA id aa04344; 18 Feb 87 2:27 EST From: "Al Hull - resident at Ford Motor Credit 313-845-2817" Newsgroups: comp.os.cpm Subject: Re: Software for DEC VT180 Robin Message-ID: <8124@decwrl.DEC.COM> Date: 18 Feb 87 04:47:46 GMT Sender: daemon@decwrl.DEC.COM To: info-cpm@AMSAA-SEER.ARPA There is a wealth of public domain software available for the Robin and Rainbow systems on the public access DEC MARKET system, running TOPS-20. Dial 1200 baud, 8N parity, phone 617-467-7437 login at the "@" system prompt with LOG LCG.KERMIT KERMIT where the second "Kermit" is a noecho password. Carefully take notes, or have ^P turned on for the first screen, which shows how to get further help, and describes how to transfer files using KERMIT. XMODEM is not available as a downloading protocol, but MODEM/XMODEM sources are available. Type out the AREAS.TXT help file for pointers to all the logical storage areas. There is also the "Robin Owner's Group" or ROG, which publishes a newsletter on a roughly quarterly basis. Contact William P. Grush, ROG Membership Coordinator 32 Colony Road Lexington, MA. 02173 Don't be discouraged - there's a lot of good software out there for the Robin - you just have to look around a bit for it. Enjoy - Alan D. Hull ( a Robin owner) Sr. SW Specialist Digital Equipment Corp. Field Application Center 34119 W. 12 Mile Rd. Farmington Hills, MI. 48018 18-Feb-87 04:47:34-MST,827;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Wed 18 Feb 87 04:47:19-MST Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa00902; 18 Feb 87 0:12 EST Received: from DMC-CRC.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa00715; 17 Feb 87 21:48 EST Received: by dmc-crc.ARPA (4.12/4.7) id AA07751; Tue, 17 Feb 87 21:33:19 est Date: Tue, 17 Feb 87 21:33:19 est From: "G. J. Marwood" Message-Id: <8702180233.AA07751@dmc-crc.ARPA> To: -v@dmc-crc.arpa, info-apple@BRL.arpa, info-cpm@AMSAA-SEER.ARPA Subject: MEX and the Prometheus 1200A Can anyone tell me if there is a suitable MEX overlay for the Prometheus 1200A/Apple ][ combination. thanks in advance Gordon 19-Feb-87 08:23:29-MST,2251;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Thu 19 Feb 87 08:23:09-MST Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa05099; 18 Feb 87 14:51 EST Received: from BRL-ADM.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa03912; 18 Feb 87 12:51 EST Received: from USENET by ADM.BRL.ARPA id aa11761; 18 Feb 87 12:45 EST From: Michael Saboff Newsgroups: comp.os.cpm Subject: Re: Software for TAB1630 desired... Message-ID: <4260001@hpirs.HP.COM> Date: 18 Feb 87 00:02:17 GMT To: info-cpm@AMSAA-SEER.ARPA > blug... > I have a couple of TAB 1630 microcomputers that run CP/M 86 on 8 > inch disks. The problem...no software to speak of. The machines were > donated to our institution without any applications software, although > I do have the system utilities, etc. I will claim to have worked for this company on this product, but don't hold it against me. The format for the floppy's are the infamous IBM 3740 format. This is also the standard CP/M 8 inch format. You can (or at least could 2-3 years ago) get software that this box understands. Computer Innovation's C compiler used to work on it. We had MicroPro's Wordstar up on it (There was a mod to remap ^S/^Q to ^] and ^\ repectively). The biggest problem in getting s/w for this system is that it runs CP/M-86 which virtually died due to MS-DOS. > If anyone knows the wherabouts of some cheap or free (pub domain) > languages, word processors/editors, that might run on our setup, please > let me know. I'd like to arrange to trade for disks. As far as format > goes, I can't even tell that, but I think it would be equivalent to > a DEC Rainbow. These TABs, which use 8086 CPUs, are so poorly supported > that not even the manufacturer knows how it is set up, nor does the > company seem to know where I can get a manual on it. (I called 'em up!). The reason that there is no support, is because the division that made that family basically folded. When you call Tab support, ask for EOP (or what is left of EOP), they made the box. Mail me direct if you want more info. Michael Saboff ucbvax!hplabs!hpda!mike 19-Feb-87 09:46:07-MST,2737;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Thu 19 Feb 87 09:44:42-MST Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa07955; 19 Feb 87 10:09 EST Received: from SIMTEL20.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa06849; 19 Feb 87 0:33 EST Date: Sunday, 15 February 1987 21:23-MST Message-ID: Sender: tektronix!copper.TEK.COM!michaelk@UCBVAX.BERKELEY.EDU From: tektronix!copper.TEK.COM!michaelk@UCBVAX.BERKELEY.EDU To: W8SDZ@SIMTEL20.arpa Subject: RM "clone" for CP/M-80 world uploaded to SIMTEL20 ReSent-From: KPETERSEN@SIMTEL20.arpa ReSent-To: "Info-Cpm at AMSAA-SEER.ARPA"@SIMTEL20.arpa ReSent-Date: Wed 18 Feb 1987 22:33-MST I have had the "problem" of typing "rm xxx" on our CP/M machine (by mistake) as I would on a UNIX machine. This was partially fixed by making a rm.sub that passed the parameter line to ERASE.COM. This didn't really work very well because ERA isn't as flexible as rm. So...I have written an (original) rm program that acts like rm. It's now available from SIMTEL20 as: Filename Type Bytes CRC Directory PD: RM104.ARK.1 BINARY 15938 9BCBH RM104 is a file deletion program for the CP/M-80 environment that operates more or less in the style of UNIX (tm of AT&T) "rm". Unlike CP/M "erase", multiple filenames can be specified, and each can be regular-expression wildcarded. Further, it defaults into a verbose mode, and can be run in an interactive query mode. The plain '-' option is for use with filenames that start with a '-'. Usage: rm [-f] [-i] [-q] [-] [s:]filename [filename...] s: => Expand afn only with SYStem attribute files -f => Delete files, even if read-only -i => Interactive query before deleting each file -q => Quiet mode - => Designates that filenames follow The distributed compiled version of this program used the M. Kersenbrock version of croot.c where the filenames are Unix-like regular-expression (ambiguous) filenames. See the documentation for details. The handling of "SYStem attribute" and "R/O" are those defined under CP/M 3.0, although this program is also compatible with CP/M 2.2 . The compiled binary, when run under CP/M 3.0, will set the system error-status upon error to that value handled by the CCP105 CCP replacement for "make" reasons explained there (if you use CP/M 3.0 and haven't replaced your CCP with CCP105, then you're working too hard!). This program (and CCP105 also) is compiled for Z80 only! -Michael D. Kersenbrock 2/1987 Aloha, Oregon (USENET: ...!tektronix!copper!michaelk) 19-Feb-87 11:24:50-MST,3372;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Thu 19 Feb 87 11:24:06-MST Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id ab07955; 19 Feb 87 10:40 EST Received: from WISCVM.WISC.EDU by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa06865; 19 Feb 87 1:03 EST Received: from RPICICGE.BITNET by wiscvm.wisc.edu on 02/18/87 at 16:29:31 CST Received: by RPICICGE (Mailer X1.23) id 4267; Wed, 18 Feb 87 12:13:34 EST Date: Wed, 18 Feb 87 11:37:00 EST From: "John S. Fisher" To: INFO-CPM@AMSAA-SEER.ARPA, CG%MYRIAS.uucp@brl.arpa Subject: Response to Chris Gray's request for Draco feedback Message-ID: <8702190106.aa06865@AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA> In experience with Draco has been generally good--it has performed mostly as described. For the most part, it is a nice programming language. I became interested in Draco because I have an application written in FORTRAN that I want to release to the PD libraries. It's a full screen data entry/analysis type program that would be generally useful only if terminal independent. The Draco crt.lib looked promising. In porting that application, though, I have encountered a few shortcomings of the package that I will share: (1) The compiler generates bad code for read(ptr*) if ptr is of type *ulong. It adds an extra POP H / MOV M,E / INC H / MOV M,E that just doesn't belong there. read(ulong), however, works fine. (2) In my application, most of the logic is decision table based. A GOTO would be damn convenient. The While-loop and if-nests I'm forced to use now are quite overwhelming. (3) The lack of support for formatted input was a mistake. Fixed format input does not belong in the stone ages; it is very appropriate for reading machine-generated data. (4) At one point I could have really used a floating type. The compiler knows about float, but the run-time library does not. Can documentation be released about the internal representation of float and procedure linkage so we can develop our own float support? (5) BIGDRACO requires a 60K TPA, but does not check to see if it has it. I have a 59K TPA (alas). (6) Is an open() to either a procedure or *char string cheap or expensive? I need internal char -> number -> char conversion and wanted to avoid the overhead of repeated opens for each conversion. The one-character-lookahead feature of read(), though, has been a problem. (7) Like most other support I've seen, the Draco crt library gets tailored of the particular terminal and this tailoring solves the problem of how to do output to the terminal. Any thoughts on similar tailoring for input? (E.g. choice of cursor keys, function keys, escape sequences....) Any thoughts on special output rendering choices? (E.g. "semi-graphic" type symbols to draw lines versus the typical - + and |.) (8) Given that Chris Gray has announced the very low probably of any continued support to the CPM version of Draco, would the author consider releasing the source? (I have not, as yet, looked at any of the games, etc. so I have no comments on them....) JSFisher FISHER@RPICICGE.BITNET 20-Feb-87 11:18:59-MST,1357;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA.ARPA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Fri 20 Feb 87 11:14:11-MST Received: from AMSAA.ARPA by AMSAA.AMSAA.ARPA id aa12926; 20 Feb 87 11:49 EST Received: from ACC.ARPA by AMSAA.AMSAA.ARPA id aa12460; 20 Feb 87 11:27 EST Date: 20 Feb 87 08:04:00 PST From: shawn@acc.arpa MMDF-Warning: Parse error in original version of preceding line at AMSAA.ARPA Subject: re: DU disk repair utilities To: info-cpm cc: shawn@acc.arpa Reply-To: shawn@acc.arpa MMDF-Warning: Parse error in original version of preceding line at AMSAA.ARPA Message-ID: <8702201127.aa12460@AMSAA.AMSAA.ARPA> re: disk patch utilities. The FIRST thing you do with any of these types of programs, is make a copy of one of your good disks, and PRACTICE! DU-V89 is on simtel20 PD:DU-V89.LBR it is a 55k binary file in library format. I read somewhere, that when your directory track is blown, the DU (or others) may not 'lock on' to the disk. In this case, the recomendation is to put another disk in the drive, have the disk utility 'lock on' then swap disks and put the one to be saved in place. The DU program is not the most abuser friendly however, if you READ THE INSTRUCTIONS, and PRACTICE, things should go well. Take Care Shawn Miner shawn@acc.arpa ------ 20-Feb-87 13:39:32-MST,1357;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA.ARPA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Fri 20 Feb 87 13:38:45-MST Received: from AMSAA.ARPA by AMSAA.AMSAA.ARPA id aa12926; 20 Feb 87 11:49 EST Received: from ACC.ARPA by AMSAA.AMSAA.ARPA id aa12460; 20 Feb 87 11:27 EST Date: 20 Feb 87 08:04:00 PST From: shawn@acc.arpa MMDF-Warning: Parse error in original version of preceding line at AMSAA.ARPA Subject: re: DU disk repair utilities To: info-cpm cc: shawn@acc.arpa Reply-To: shawn@acc.arpa MMDF-Warning: Parse error in original version of preceding line at AMSAA.ARPA Message-ID: <8702201127.aa12460@AMSAA.AMSAA.ARPA> re: disk patch utilities. The FIRST thing you do with any of these types of programs, is make a copy of one of your good disks, and PRACTICE! DU-V89 is on simtel20 PD:DU-V89.LBR it is a 55k binary file in library format. I read somewhere, that when your directory track is blown, the DU (or others) may not 'lock on' to the disk. In this case, the recomendation is to put another disk in the drive, have the disk utility 'lock on' then swap disks and put the one to be saved in place. The DU program is not the most abuser friendly however, if you READ THE INSTRUCTIONS, and PRACTICE, things should go well. Take Care Shawn Miner shawn@acc.arpa ------ 21-Feb-87 10:23:11-MST,1179;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Sat 21 Feb 87 10:22:49-MST Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa09672; 19 Feb 87 14:28 EST Received: from NADC.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa09146; 19 Feb 87 12:51 EST Date: 19 Feb 1987 12:49:41-EST From: prindle@nadc.arpa To: info-cpm@AMSAA-SEER.ARPA Subject: FORMAT2.COM for Commodore 128 Message-ID: <8702191251.aa09146@AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA> PD:FORMAT2.COM is now on SIMTEL20. This update for FORMAT.COM supports generation of several MFM diskette formats in addition to the 3 GCR formats previously supported. As far as I know, nothing has been done to prevent wiping out the second side when one of the single side formats is selected in 1571 mode. You still need to force the drive into 1541 mode to format flippy diskettes. In one of the messages displayed by FORMAT2.COM, there is a misspelled word "Doudle". This is ok and does not mean you have a bad copy - just a slip of the fingers by the author, no doubt. Sincerely, Frank Prindle Prindle@NADC.arpa 21-Feb-87 10:23:53-MST,1276;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Sat 21 Feb 87 10:23:40-MST Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa12492; 19 Feb 87 20:45 EST Received: from BRL-ADM.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa12061; 19 Feb 87 17:36 EST Received: from USENET by ADM.BRL.ARPA id aa01151; 19 Feb 87 17:29 EST From: Ted Medin Newsgroups: comp.os.cpm Subject: Help with apple microsoft hard disk groups Message-ID: <508@cod.UUCP> Date: 19 Feb 87 00:03:40 GMT Keywords: apple microsoft hard-disk To: info-cpm@AMSAA-SEER.ARPA I have a hard disk with novocomp 2.0 software running with microsoft apple cpm. Most everything is fine except the group size (i think thats the name) is 16k. Which means the minimum file size is 16k. Well that would be fine if your selling very large disks but i think thats terrible. Does anyone with a similar setup have a solution for smaller groups. Does anyone know if there is some restriction in microsoft apple cpm or if this is just terrible software from novocomp. The documentation from novocomp is muniscule and is not even translated well from german. HELP! Thanks in advance. Ted 21-Feb-87 10:24:48-MST,1604;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Sat 21 Feb 87 10:24:35-MST Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id ab12492; 19 Feb 87 20:54 EST Received: from BRL-ADM.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa12360; 19 Feb 87 19:16 EST Received: from USENET by ADM.BRL.ARPA id aa02353; 19 Feb 87 19:11 EST From: jeffj@sfsup.uucp Newsgroups: comp.os.cpm Subject: need assistance in recovering/salvaging diskette contents Message-ID: <1121@sfsup.UUCP> Date: 18 Feb 87 18:52:23 GMT To: info-cpm@AMSAA-SEER.ARPA [sprong!] I have a disk and two sectors have gone bad. I get read errors (meaning that possibly the formatting was damaged). I understand that there are programs to help me repair the disk. DISK DOCTOR - Who sells it? Is it much better than DU? DU - public domain (I'm getting a copy soon. Will I have to customize it a lot?) SPAT - public domain. I have a copy. It's useless without the specific system it was written for. Since I plan to recover only the text files, I figure that I can display all the good sectors, and like a puzzle, put together the good pieces and combine those sectors to a 'good disk' as one file. Oh - this is a 5.25" double sided 80 track disk. track 1 side 0 sector 3 went bad (directory!). Looking at the other directory sectors would probably help me find some files and narrow down the sector search. Any helpful advise? Jeffrey 'paper based lifeform' Jonas {ihnp4 | allegra | cbosgd} attunix ! jeffj 21-Feb-87 10:26:08-MST,1003;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Sat 21 Feb 87 10:25:52-MST Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa12897; 20 Feb 87 0:10 EST Received: from WISCVM.WISC.EDU by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa12553; 19 Feb 87 21:12 EST Received: from H462BATMS by wiscvm.wisc.edu on 02/19/87 at 20:11:36 CST Date: Thu, 19-FEB-1987 21:03 EST From: Timothy Stark To: info-cpm@AMSAA-SEER.ARPA MMDF-Warning: Parse error in original version of preceding line at AMSAA-SEER.ARPA Subject: TAR files in archive-request@simtel20.arpa Message-ID: <8702192112.aa12553@AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA> Hello, I had read msdos.catcrc, etc... I had seen that tar files. I need know that how to untar files??? WHich files that is tar program what can tar and untar files. And How to arc files in CP/M machine?? Thanx for your help! Tim Stark 21-Feb-87 10:27:36-MST,1128;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Sat 21 Feb 87 10:27:28-MST Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id ab12897; 20 Feb 87 0:16 EST Received: from BRL-ADM.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa12676; 19 Feb 87 21:56 EST Received: from USENET by ADM.BRL.ARPA id aa04447; 19 Feb 87 21:49 EST From: "Joseph D. Loda" Newsgroups: comp.os.cpm Subject: Drivers for PCPI Applicard Message-ID: <926@aicchi.UUCP> Date: 19 Feb 87 04:54:57 GMT To: info-cpm@AMSAA-SEER.ARPA A friiend of mine with a PCPI Applicard is looking for the source to some drivers. The easy request is for the source for some drivers for an Apple Super Serial Card. The hard request is for print drivercs for a Mountain Hardware CPS card. Ideally, this driver would implement a print buffer like the one PCPI supplies. Thanks in advance. Joe. -- Joe Loda Analysts International (Chicago Branch) Usenet: ..!ihnp4!aicchi!joeloda CIS: 75726,1641 BIX: jloda GEnie: j.loda 21-Feb-87 10:41:37-MST,948;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Sat 21 Feb 87 10:41:10-MST Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa15632; 20 Feb 87 14:46 EST Received: from DMC-CRC.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa15393; 20 Feb 87 13:11 EST Received: by dmc-crc.ARPA (4.12/4.7) id AA03564; Fri, 20 Feb 87 13:10:35 est Date: Fri, 20 Feb 87 13:10:35 est From: "G. J. Marwood" Message-Id: <8702201810.AA03564@dmc-crc.ARPA> To: aicchi!joeloda@dmc-crc.arpa, info-cpm@AMSAA-SEER.ARPA Subject: Re: Drivers for PCPI Applicard >....print drivers for a Mountain CPS Multifunction Card. If you look at one of the "DRIVERS" lists on SIMTEL20 PD: you will find reference to a PD driver for the CPS card. However, the driver itself is not in SIMTEL20. Gordon Marwood 22-Feb-87 16:28:00-MST,851;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Sun 22 Feb 87 16:27:47-MST Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa00071; 22 Feb 87 17:36 EST Received: from BRL-ADM.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id ae00154; 21 Feb 87 12:14 EST Received: from USENET by ADM.BRL.ARPA id aa22417; 21 Feb 87 5:03 EST From: Bill Jones Newsgroups: comp.os.cpm Subject: Seeking S100 RAMDISK Card Message-ID: <432@ttidca.UUCP> Date: 20 Feb 87 19:09:43 GMT To: info-cpm@AMSAA-SEER.ARPA I am in the market for an inexpensive RAMDISK card for my S100 system. If anyone has one that they are interested in selling, or if you can recommend a good source for "previously owned" S100 cards, please let me know. Bill 22-Feb-87 18:20:06-MST,1371;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Sun 22 Feb 87 18:19:52-MST Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa00534; 22 Feb 87 19:31 EST Received: from BRL-ADM.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id ab00211; 22 Feb 87 17:21 EST Received: from USENET by ADM.BRL.ARPA id aa01599; 21 Feb 87 16:38 EST From: Chris Gordon Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm,comp.os.cpm,comp.sys.ibm.pc Subject: Looking for CP/M->MSDOS copier Message-ID: <12485@watnot.UUCP> Date: 21 Feb 87 16:38:19 GMT To: info-cpm@AMSAA-SEER.ARPA Hi. Does anyone have, or know where I can get, a program to copy files of any size from a CP/M format disk to an MSDOS disk? I have one but the file size is limited to ~40K. I need to copy a file around ~60K. I am running CP/M 3.0+ on a Commodore 128. I prefer it to copy from CP/M format disks but will settle for copying from CBM DOS disks. Any and all help will be much appreciated. Chris -- Chris Gordon UUCP: {abunchasystems}!watmath!watnot!cagordon U of Waterloo, Ont CompuServe: 72030,104 CSNET: cagordon%watnot@Waterloo.CSNET ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "I always have fun 'cause I'm out of my mind!!!" - ZTP 22-Feb-87 20:55:47-MST,1113;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Sun 22 Feb 87 20:55:32-MST Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa00884; 22 Feb 87 22:07 EST Received: from DOCKMASTER.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa00825; 22 Feb 87 21:11 EST Date: Sun, 22 Feb 87 21:11 EST From: "Paul E. Woodie" Subject: cpm -> msdos To: info-cpm@AMSAA-SEER.ARPA Message-ID: <870223021150.362667@DOCKMASTER.ARPA> In response to the request for a program to convert from cpm disk to msdos disk, I'll volunteer the short turbo pascal program I wrote to run on a pc clone. This program, running on an ibmpc, will read a cpm disk, formatted by an Osborne (SSDD) and write in msdos format. I haven't tried it on large files, but since the source is pascal, it should (hopefully) be easy enough to modify, if needed. Sorry to be posting this to the net instead of a direct reply, but my host couldn't determine the address for a direct reply. --Paul Woodie (Woodie at dockmaster) 25-Feb-87 11:42:24-MST,1655;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Wed 25 Feb 87 11:42:07-MST Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id ab01010; 24 Feb 87 18:32 EST Received: from BRL-ADM.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id ab00373; 24 Feb 87 16:58 EST Received: from USENET by ADM.BRL.ARPA id aa00721; 23 Feb 87 19:01 EST From: Chris Gordon Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm,comp.os.cpm,comp.sys.ibm.pc Subject: Need CP/M->IBM file transfer prg Message-ID: <12490@watnot.UUCP> Date: 23 Feb 87 16:10:30 GMT To: info-cpm@AMSAA-SEER.ARPA (This is a repost of a previous request for the same thing, only changed slightly) Hi. Does anyone have, or know where I can get, a program to copy files of any size and type from a CP/M DS (such as Kaypro IV, for example, but I can read a few others) format disk to an MSDOS disk? I have one but the file size is limited to ~40K. The largest file I have is around 200K. I am running CP/M 3.0+ on a Commodore 128. I prefer it to copy from CP/M format disks but will settle for copying from CBM DOS disks. Also, I need either binaries or ASM source as I have no C or Pascal (or other) compilers for either IBM or CP/M. Any and all help would be much appreciated. Chris -- Chris Gordon UUCP: {abunchasystems}!watmath!watnot!cagordon U of Waterloo, Ont CompuServe: 72030,104 CSNET: cagordon%watnot@Waterloo.CSNET ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "I always have fun 'cause I'm out of my mind!!!" - ZTP 25-Feb-87 16:35:19-MST,878;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA.ARPA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Wed 25 Feb 87 16:35:12-MST Received: from AMSAA.ARPA by AMSAA.amsaa.ARPA id aa26303; 25 Feb 87 17:36 EST Received: from USC-OBERON.ARPA by AMSAA.AMSAA.ARPA id aa26278; 25 Feb 87 17:22 EST Received: by usc-oberon.ARPA (5.51/5.5) id AA14917; Wed, 25 Feb 87 14:15:30 PST Received: by hamal.usc.edu (3.2/SMI-3.0DEV3) id AA21020; Wed, 25 Feb 87 14:15:22 PST Date: Wed 25 Feb 87 14:15:17-PST From: Dick Subject: Where's NOAH (CP/M ARC) To: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA Message-Id: Desires: "gag me with a Valley girl" (ohmigod!) Like it says in the subject, is there any projected release date for NOAH? Will it be a NSWP/NULU type prog for ARC's? eh? ------- 25-Feb-87 16:53:15-MST,1691;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Wed 25 Feb 87 16:52:24-MST Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id ac01010; 24 Feb 87 18:46 EST Received: from BRL-ADM.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa00488; 24 Feb 87 17:09 EST Received: from USENET by ADM.BRL.ARPA id aa00898; 24 Feb 87 6:36 EST From: Ari Davidow Newsgroups: comp.os.cpm Subject: Re: cpm -> msdos Message-ID: <2644@well.UUCP> Date: 24 Feb 87 07:14:52 GMT To: info-cpm@AMSAA-SEER.ARPA In article <4602@brl-adm.ARPA> Woodie@DOCKMASTER.arpa (Paul E. Woodie) writes: >In response to the request for a program to convert from cpm disk to >msdos disk, I'll volunteer the short turbo pascal program I wrote to run >on a pc clone. This program, running on an ibmpc, will read a cpm disk, >formatted by an Osborne (SSDD) and write in msdos format. I haven't >tried it on large files, but since the source is pascal, it should >(hopefully) be easy enough to modify, if needed. There are several commercial programs that will handle conversion from various CP/M formats to MS-DOS. The best is probably UNIORM, by Micro Solutions. It will not only let you read/write/format a variety of CP/M formats, but will let you read those disks in your MS-DOS computer as if they were native MS-DOS diskettes. Other good ones are Media Master, and Xenocopy. Note that for high density or single density formats you need a drive capable of reading them, and double ditto for 8" formats--usually you need a special controller (which, for instance, MicroSolutions also sells). 25-Feb-87 17:15:56-MST,1943;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Wed 25 Feb 87 17:15:05-MST Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id ad01010; 24 Feb 87 18:57 EST Received: from LLL-LCC.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa00478; 24 Feb 87 17:10 EST Received: Mon, 23 Feb 87 08:56:19 PST from lll-es-s05.arpa by lll-lcc.ARPA (5.51/) id AA03309; Mon, 23 Feb 87 08:56:19 PST Return-Path: Received: by lll-es-s05.ARPA (1.1/SMI-3.0DEV3) id AA02670; Mon, 23 Feb 87 08:59:58 PST Message-Id: <8702231659.AA02670@lll-es-s05.ARPA> Date: Mon Feb 23 08:59:54 1987 From: Roger Hanscom 423-0441 Subject: Re: Seeking S100 RAMDISK Card To: ttidca!b-jones@lll-lcc.arpa Cc: info-cpm@AMSAA-SEER.ARPA X-Orig-Date: 20 Feb 87 19:09:43 GMT X-Orig-From: Bill Jones X-Orig-Message-Id: <432@ttidca.UUCP> Status: N One of the better s-100 ram-disk boards available is the LS-100 by Digital Reearch (Computers), Dallas, Tx. It was about $150. (in kit form) the last I knew. They used to advertise it quite heavily, but I don't think I've seen an ad for it in quite a while. It uses 4 banks of 64K DRAM and an 8203 memory controller. I'll bet it is still available. Why don't you give them a call?? I use two of them on my s-100, and have had very good luck with them. There's even an upgrade to 1 meg. available from George Dombrowski Jr. (SYNC studios, 42 Pondview Drive, Southington, Ct. 06489 (203) 621-6839). It is too expensive ($275 for existing board or $495 for new) for my blood, but it's there. D.R. used to sell bare boards with documentation and software for about $70, so that could be an option as well. I believe we work for the same organization, and I'd be glad to help you out with this. I've built one of their kits, and a bare board! 25-Feb-87 18:13:02-MST,2125;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Wed 25 Feb 87 18:12:44-MST Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id ae01010; 24 Feb 87 19:04 EST Received: from WISCVM.WISC.EDU by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa00840; 24 Feb 87 17:55 EST Received: from ISUMVS.BITNET by wiscvm.wisc.edu on 02/24/87 at 16:54:36 CST Date: Tue, 24 Feb 87 16:55:28 CST To: info-cpm@AMSAA-SEER.ARPA MMDF-Warning: Parse error in original version of preceding line at AMSAA-SEER.ARPA From: Jeff Henkels Message-ID: <8702241756.aa00840@AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA> I hope that someone out there in net.land can help me out with a rather strange problem. I recently purchased a Morrow MD2 single-board system (rev 2.0 Kojinsha), bundled with CP/M 2.2, MBASIC, and NewWord. I am quite satisfied with the system, except for one not-so-small problem: I can't get the second serial port to work! Apparently, the IOBYTE is not implemented, so commands like STAT PUN: = PTP: have no effect, and ctrl-p locks the system up. The only way I can get the port to do anything at all is to run KERMIT (configured for the Morrow MD1). In KERMIT, I can send stuff out to the modem with no errors, but the stuff sent back from the modem to the Morrow is total garbage. It appears as if the receive characteristics (speed, word length, etc.) are not the same as the transmit characteristics. The port is an Intel 8251A, with clocking provided by an 8253. Disassembly of the Morrow BIOS does not show any references to the ports for the 8253, so the initialization of the baud generator must be done in the boot ROM. Also, KERMIT does nothing with these ports. Perhaps those of you who have experience with the MD2 can give me some pointers on how to fix this problem. Please reply to me directly; I'll summarize the responses and post them to the net. Jeff Henkels F1.JJH%ISUMVS.BITNET@WISCVM.WISC.ARPA 25-Feb-87 19:24:27-MST,1251;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Wed 25 Feb 87 19:24:19-MST Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa01209; 24 Feb 87 19:38 EST Received: from BRL-ADM.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa01187; 24 Feb 87 19:22 EST Received: from USENET by ADM.BRL.ARPA id aa02063; 23 Feb 87 15:25 EST From: Douglas J Roberts Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems,comp.os.cpm Subject: Fact sheet or info in the 8251 USART Message-ID: <1260@beta.UUCP> Date: 23 Feb 87 16:23:26 GMT Keywords: USART-8251, COMMANDS, WHAT-ARE-THEY? Posted: Mon Feb 23 11:23:26 1987 To: info-cpm@AMSAA-SEER.ARPA Does anybody know the commands for the 8251 USART? I would like to tell the USART in my Z-80 CPM machine to send serial data with 1 start bit, 7 data bits, 1 parity bit, and one stop bit. The initialization routine in my bios sends 0CEH to the serial status port which sets the UART to 2 stop bits, 16xclock, 8 data bits, no parity. If anybody knows the other control bytes, mucho appreciado! -- Douglas J. Roberts, dzzr@lanl.gov Los Alamos National Laboratory Box 1663, F602 Los Alamos, N. M. 87544 25-Feb-87 20:15:43-MST,2745;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Wed 25 Feb 87 20:15:17-MST Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa01563; 24 Feb 87 22:36 EST Received: from BRL-ADM.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa01557; 24 Feb 87 22:23 EST Received: from USENET by ADM.BRL.ARPA id aa00597; 24 Feb 87 22:08 EST From: Herman Schuurman Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems,comp.os.cpm Subject: Re: Fact sheet or info in the 8251 USART Message-ID: <15343@ti-csl.CSNET> Date: 24 Feb 87 20:55:42 GMT Posted: Tue Feb 24 14:55:42 1987 To: info-cpm@AMSAA-SEER.ARPA in article <1260@beta.UUCP>, dzzr@beta.UUCP (Douglas J Roberts) says: > > Does anybody know the commands for the 8251 USART? > I would like to tell the USART in my Z-80 CPM machine to > send serial data with 1 start bit, 7 data bits, 1 parity bit, and > one stop bit. > > The initialization routine in my bios sends 0CEH to the serial status > port which sets the UART to 2 stop bits, 16xclock, 8 data bits, no parity. > > If anybody knows the other control bytes, mucho appreciado! > > -- > Douglas J. Roberts, dzzr@lanl.gov > Los Alamos National Laboratory > Box 1663, F602 > Los Alamos, N. M. 87544 Mode format - async mode 0-1 Clock rate: 00 = sync mode, 01 = 1x, 10 = 16x, 11 = 64x 2-3 Char length: 00 = 5, 01 = 6, 10 = 7, 11 = 8 bits 4 Parity enable: 0 = disabled, 1 = enabled 5 Parity: 0 = odd, 1 = even 6-7 Stop bits: 00 = invalid, 01 = 1, 10 = 1.5, 11 = 2 Command instruction 0 Transmit enable: 1 = enable 1 Data Terminal Ready: 1 = ~DTR is forced low 2 Receive enable: 1 = enable 3 Send break character: 1 = TxD "low", 0 = normal operation 4 Error reset: 1 = Reset PE, OE and FE flags 5 Request to send: 1 = ~RTS is forced low 6 Internal reset: 1 = enter mode instruction format 7 Enter HUNT mode: 1 = enable search for sync chars Status byte 0 TxRDY: 1 = Transmitter ready for next character 1 RxRDY: 1 = Receiver ready - character waiting 2 TxEMPTY: 1 = Transmit buffer empty 3 PE: Parity Error 4 OE: Overrun Error 5 FE: Framing Error 6 SynDet: 1 = Sync character detected 7 DSR: 1 = Data Set Ready Bit #0 is the least significant bit; #7 is the most significant bit. The mode byte for 1 start bit, 7 data bits, odd parity, and 1 stop bit would be 05Ah (which includes the 16x clock factor too). -- Herman Schuurman ARPA: herman%TI-CSL@CSNET-RELAY.ARPA Texas Instruments Inc. CSNET: herman@TI-CSL PO Box 226015 M/S 238 USENET: {ut-sally,convex!smu,texsun,rice}!ti-csl!herman Dallas, Texas 75266 VOICE: (214) 995-0845 25-Feb-87 21:10:04-MST,1519;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Wed 25 Feb 87 21:09:20-MST Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa01603; 24 Feb 87 22:58 EST Received: from BRL-ADM.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa01565; 24 Feb 87 22:27 EST Received: from USENET by ADM.BRL.ARPA id aa00772; 24 Feb 87 22:19 EST From: Mark Harris Newsgroups: comp.os.cpm,comp.sys.tandy Subject: Re: Asking about CP/M availability for TRS-80(tm-Tandy) Model 4p Message-ID: <1167@dg_rtp.UUCP> Date: 24 Feb 87 16:31:24 GMT Posted: Tue Feb 24 11:31:24 1987 To: info-cpm@AMSAA-SEER.ARPA In article <2953@ihlpa.UUCP> rjh@ihlpa.UUCP (Herber) writes: >I recently acquired a TRS-80(tm-Tandy) Model 4p. >I am looking for a public domain CP/M or CP/M BIOS for the machine. >I am also interested in recommendations for inexpensive versions of >the same (inexpensive is defined in this case as <= $100US). >Are there any versions that are being marketed that I should consider >avoiding? >Please, respond via E-mail. > > Randolph J. Herber, ..!ihnp4!ihlpa!rjh, I know of two versions. One is offered by Montezuma Micro and costs about $150 (maybe a bit more). The other is sold by Rose (or something like that) and sells for about $80. Supposedly, the MM version is a good bit "slicker". Pick up an 80Micro to check out the prices. If you do find a PD CP/M, let everybody know. Good luck. 26-Feb-87 00:08:09-MST,2737;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Thu 26 Feb 87 00:07:53-MST Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa05798; 25 Feb 87 13:31 EST Received: from BRL-ADM.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa05491; 25 Feb 87 12:57 EST Received: from USENET by ADM.BRL.ARPA id aa03902; 25 Feb 87 10:55 EST From: Mike Coln Newsgroups: comp.os.cpm Subject: Re: Fact sheet or info in the 8251 USART Message-ID: <1550001@hpl-opus.HP.COM> Date: 24 Feb 87 19:06:10 GMT Posted: Tue Feb 24 14:06:10 1987 To: info-cpm@AMSAA-SEER.ARPA To program the 8251: The chip is programmed by writing a sequence of control words (bytes!) to the control register. 1) All programming goes to the same chip "address", so first you must insure that the chip is in a known state. One way to do this is a hardware reset, another is to write three "all zero" dummy bytes to the chip, and then a command instruction with the internal reset bit "one". (This covers the case where the first two may be interpreted as "sync" characters.) 2) Write a "mode" instruction to the control register: Assuming that you will use the chip in asynchronous mode: b7,b6 : stop bits : 00 invalid, 01 -> 1bit, 10 -> 1.5bits, 11 -> 2bits b5 : 0 -> odd parity, 1 -> even parity (only if parity enabled) b4 : 0 -> parity disabled, 1 -> parity enabled b3,b2 : character size : 00 -> 5bit, 01 -> 6bit, 10 -> 7bit, 11 -> 8bit b1,b0 : clock factor : 00 -> sync mode, 01 -> 1x, 10 -> 16x, 11 -> 64x 3) Write no "sync" characters, since I am assuming asynchronous operation. 4) Write a "command" instruction to the control register: b7 : 1 -> enter "hunt" mode (only for sync operation, no effect here) b6 : 1 -> internal reset, next write will be "mode" instruction b5 : 1 -> request-to-send output will go active (note active low) b4 : 1 -> reset error flags: parity, overrun, framing b3 : 1 -> send "break" character (force transmitted data to 0) b2 : 1 -> receive enable b1 : 1 -> data-terminal-ready output will go active (note active low) b0 : 1 -> transmit enable 5) now the chip should be working... Therefore, for your requested parameters of 7 data, parity, and 1 stop: 00000000 (sync) dummy sync if reading sync characters 00000000 (sync) second dummy sync 00000000 (command) dummy command 01000000 (command) internal reset 01111010 (mode) even parity or 01011010 odd parity, both 16x clock 00100111 (command) example with both RTS and DTR active I hope I got this right, and that it is the information you need. Mike Coln 26-Feb-87 00:55:26-MST,1604;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Thu 26 Feb 87 00:55:14-MST Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa00393; 24 Feb 87 17:50 EST Received: from WISCVM.WISC.EDU by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa00221; 24 Feb 87 16:36 EST Received: from HNYKUN11.BITNET by wiscvm.wisc.edu on 02/24/87 at 12:38:56 CST Date: Tue, 24 Feb 87 17:08:54 MET To: INFO-CPM@AMSAA-SEER.ARPA From: U267105%HNYKUN11.BITNET@wiscvm.wisc.EDU Return-Receipt-To: U267105@HNYKUN11.BITNET Subject: UnARC'ing and UUdecoding on the mainframe Message-ID: <8702241637.aa00221@AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA> Date: 23 February 1987, 17:10:39 MET From: Jos Grote Punt 080-566793 U267105 at HNYKUN11 To: INFO-CPM at AMSAA-SE Thanks everyone for the hints about the CP/M cartridge for the Commodore 64. It really works! At first I was afraid it wouldn't, because people were talking about NTSC and so and here in Europe we have another video-system, called PAL. Also there were newer 64's that did work with the cartridge! But I just exchanged the VIC's so everything works fine now. I have another question: Most files on ARCHIVE-REQUEST are send arc'ed, squeezed and/or uudecoded. It takes a lot of work to download them and only afterwards you can see if they're useful. Is there anyone who knows a UNARC, LU and/or UUDECODE program to do it on an VM/CMS system? At the moment we have no C-compiler here, but if it's necessary this can change .. Jos Grote Punt . QUIT 26-Feb-87 01:06:40-MST,672;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Thu 26 Feb 87 01:06:18-MST Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa01010; 24 Feb 87 18:21 EST Received: from BRL-ADM.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa00373; 24 Feb 87 16:55 EST Received: from USENET by ADM.BRL.ARPA id aa00712; 23 Feb 87 19:01 EST From: cagordon@watnot.uucp Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm,comp.os.cpm,comp.sys.ibm.pc Subject: cancel <12485@watnot.UUCP> Message-ID: <12489@watnot.UUCP> Date: 23 Feb 87 15:49:17 GMT Control: cancel <12485@watnot.UUCP> To: info-cpm@AMSAA-SEER.ARPA 26-Feb-87 02:13:07-MST,1519;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Thu 26 Feb 87 02:12:56-MST Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa01695; 24 Feb 87 23:56 EST Received: from BRL-ADM.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa01667; 24 Feb 87 23:24 EST Received: from USENET by ADM.BRL.ARPA id aa00772; 24 Feb 87 22:19 EST From: Mark Harris Newsgroups: comp.os.cpm,comp.sys.tandy Subject: Re: Asking about CP/M availability for TRS-80(tm-Tandy) Model 4p Message-ID: <1167@dg_rtp.UUCP> Date: 24 Feb 87 16:31:24 GMT Posted: Tue Feb 24 11:31:24 1987 To: info-cpm@AMSAA-SEER.ARPA In article <2953@ihlpa.UUCP> rjh@ihlpa.UUCP (Herber) writes: >I recently acquired a TRS-80(tm-Tandy) Model 4p. >I am looking for a public domain CP/M or CP/M BIOS for the machine. >I am also interested in recommendations for inexpensive versions of >the same (inexpensive is defined in this case as <= $100US). >Are there any versions that are being marketed that I should consider >avoiding? >Please, respond via E-mail. > > Randolph J. Herber, ..!ihnp4!ihlpa!rjh, I know of two versions. One is offered by Montezuma Micro and costs about $150 (maybe a bit more). The other is sold by Rose (or something like that) and sells for about $80. Supposedly, the MM version is a good bit "slicker". Pick up an 80Micro to check out the prices. If you do find a PD CP/M, let everybody know. Good luck. 26-Feb-87 02:15:12-MST,1517;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Thu 26 Feb 87 02:15:02-MST Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa01947; 25 Feb 87 1:14 EST Received: from BRL-ADM.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa01932; 25 Feb 87 0:45 EST Received: from USENET by ADM.BRL.ARPA id aa00772; 24 Feb 87 22:19 EST From: Mark Harris Newsgroups: comp.os.cpm,comp.sys.tandy Subject: Re: Asking about CP/M availability for TRS-80(tm-Tandy) Model 4p Message-ID: <1167@dg_rtp.UUCP> Date: 24 Feb 87 16:31:24 GMT Posted: Tue Feb 24 11:31:24 1987 To: info-cpm@AMSAA-SEER.ARPA In article <2953@ihlpa.UUCP> rjh@ihlpa.UUCP (Herber) writes: >I recently acquired a TRS-80(tm-Tandy) Model 4p. >I am looking for a public domain CP/M or CP/M BIOS for the machine. >I am also interested in recommendations for inexpensive versions of >the same (inexpensive is defined in this case as <= $100US). >Are there any versions that are being marketed that I should consider >avoiding? >Please, respond via E-mail. > > Randolph J. Herber, ..!ihnp4!ihlpa!rjh, I know of two versions. One is offered by Montezuma Micro and costs about $150 (maybe a bit more). The other is sold by Rose (or something like that) and sells for about $80. Supposedly, the MM version is a good bit "slicker". Pick up an 80Micro to check out the prices. If you do find a PD CP/M, let everybody know. Good luck. 26-Feb-87 02:18:06-MST,2862;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Thu 26 Feb 87 02:17:51-MST Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id ab01947; 25 Feb 87 1:24 EST Received: from BRL-ADM.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id ab01932; 25 Feb 87 0:47 EST Received: from USENET by ADM.BRL.ARPA id aa01242; 24 Feb 87 23:40 EST From: Andrew Klossner Newsgroups: rec.games.misc,comp.os.cpm Subject: Hitchhiker's Guide for CP/M-80 Message-ID: <2791@hammer.TEK.COM> Date: 24 Feb 87 15:20:47 GMT To: info-cpm@AMSAA-SEER.ARPA Several Infocom games, including "Hitchhiker's Guide", are available for CP/M-80 machines, but Infocom doesn't tell you this. Many of us have stared longingly at Infocom's matrix of games vs machines and despaired at all the blank boxes in the CP/M-80 line. Many of those blanks correspond to filled boxes in the "Kaypro II" line, meaning that those games are available for the Kaypro II computer. The Kaypro II is a Z80 based machine running CP/M-80. I wrote to Infocom asking whether I could run Kaypro II games on my CP/M system, but they ignored me. So I took a chance and bought the Kaypro II version of "Hitchhiker's Guide." Good news -- the Kaypro II package differs from a standard CP/M-80 package only in that the software (the .COM and .DAT files) are distributed on a Kaypro 5.25" floppy, and the .COM file is preconfigured for the Kaypro II environment; no configuration files are supplied. Neither the floppy disk nor the software are copy protected, and an old configuration file from, e.g., the CP/M distribution of "Zork I" will still work on the .COM file. The only problem, then, is transferring files from the Kaypro II disk to an eight inch disk, but readers of these newsgroups should have little trouble finding resources to accomplish this. [Don't ask me for help, I relied heavily on the kindness of friends.] This information comes at an opportune time. Infocom is discontinuing many of their lines of machine support, including the Kaypro II, and is blowing away these games for about $17, a much lower price than the standard $40. This sale ends on March 31, after which the software may not be available at all. I speculate that Infocom stopped distributing their games in CP/M-80 format because they wanted to stop supporting the eight inch disk and the larger packaging that such disks necessitate. Warning: I haven't verified that the Kaypro II software works on a CP/M-80 system that doesn't use a Z80 processor. I have no reason to suspect it, but wouldn't be surprised if a Z80 is required. -=- Andrew Klossner (decvax!tektronix!tekecs!andrew) [UUCP] (tekecs!andrew.tektronix@csnet-relay) [ARPA] 26-Feb-87 02:37:42-MST,2205;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Thu 26 Feb 87 02:37:28-MST Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa05384; 25 Feb 87 13:13 EST Received: from BRL-ADM.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa05376; 25 Feb 87 12:52 EST Received: from USENET by ADM.BRL.ARPA id aa00632; 25 Feb 87 8:11 EST From: luis Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm,comp.os.cpm,comp.sys.ibm.pc Subject: Re: Looking for CP/M->MSDOS copier Message-ID: <201@grinch.grinch.UUCP> Date: 24 Feb 87 21:05:57 GMT To: info-cpm@AMSAA-SEER.ARPA In article <12485@watnot.UUCP> cagordon@watnot.UUCP (Chris Gordon) writes: > >Hi. Does anyone have, or know where I can get, a program to copy files of any >size from a CP/M format disk to an MSDOS disk? I have one but the file size is >limited to ~40K. I need to copy a file around ~60K. I am running CP/M 3.0+ on >a Commodore 128. I prefer it to copy from CP/M format disks but will settle >for copying from CBM DOS disks. Any and all help will be much appreciated. > >Chris Chris, have you tried a program called Uniform? I am not sure if it will handle Commodore disks, but it handles TONS of different disk type. It also supports 3.5", 5.25", 8", SS, DD, and QD drives... It's truely an amazing product!! I don't know the name of the company that makes it or their address or phone number, but here is the complete name of the software package: Uniform-PC So, maybe you can find it in a local computer store. I have seen many stores which carry it. Be sure it reads your disk before you purchase it (If you decide to buy it). This is not the only software package which does this, so be sure to look around.. Hope I helped ya out a little bit, as well as someone else... -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Luis Chanu "Live every day as if it were your last UUCP: ihnp4!sun!altos86!grinch!luis because one day you will be right." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 26-Feb-87 03:20:31-MST,1370;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Thu 26 Feb 87 03:20:22-MST Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa00659; 25 Feb 87 17:24 EST Received: from DMC-CRC.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa00636; 25 Feb 87 17:09 EST Received: by dmc-crc.ARPA (4.12/4.7) id AA11072; Wed, 25 Feb 87 17:09:23 est Date: Wed, 25 Feb 87 17:09:23 est From: "G. J. Marwood" Message-Id: <8702252209.AA11072@dmc-crc.ARPA> To: -v@dmc-crc.arpa, info-cpm@AMSAA-SEER.ARPA Subject: Applicard and Super Serial Card at 9600 baud Does anyone have any experience of using the PCPI Applicard and Super Serial card at 9600 baud. I have tried this and found that a lot of characters are dropped. As the basic Super Serial Card in dumb terminal mode (working totally in the Apple environment) does not seem to have this problem, I suspect that the difficulty arises because of slow communication between the Apple and the Applicard (in character rather than block mode). One solution, if indeed this is the problem, might be to use the SIO board which plugs directly into the Applicard. If any one has any other ideas I would appreciate them. thank you in advance Gordon Marwood -------------- 26-Feb-87 03:53:45-MST,1501;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Thu 26 Feb 87 03:53:36-MST Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa00875; 25 Feb 87 18:24 EST Received: from NCSC.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa00766; 25 Feb 87 17:54 EST Received: by ncsc.ARPA id AA04630; Wed, 25 Feb 87 16:54:20 CST Date: Wed, 25 Feb 87 16:54:20 CST From: Brown Message-Id: <8702252254.AA04630@ncsc.ARPA> To: INFO-CPM@AMSAA-SEER.ARPA, U267105@hnykun11.bitnet Subject: Re: UnARC'ing and UUdecoding on the mainframe There are some unix versions in 'c' source form at SIMTEL20 in the pd: directories. For example pd: arc.shar1 \ arc.shar2 | implement 'arc/unarc' arc.shar3 / 'shar' files are files which you can run thru 'sh' (after deleting a few lines at the beginning, list one and it will be obvious) to create the 'shared' files. You could seperate the files by hand with a half-decent editor. Other files of interest are: pd:lar.c handles '.lbr' files pd: uncr231.c handles '*.?Z?' files usq17u.c handles '*.?Q?' files xusq107.c same?? As I said these are in source form for unix. Don't know how much trouble it would be to convert to VM/CMS. I also don't know if there is a pd: collection at simtel20 which may have what you want in a native form. David Brown jdb@ncsc 26-Feb-87 04:27:11-MST,1265;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Thu 26 Feb 87 04:26:59-MST Received: by ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (5.53/1.23) id AA22545; Thu, 26 Feb 87 03:10:05 PST Received: from USENET by ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU with netnews for info-cpm-ddn@simtel20.arpa (info-cpm@simtel20.arpa) (contact usenet@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU if you have questions) Date: 26 Feb 87 06:01:35 GMT From: adm!H462BATMS%GALLUA.BITNET%wiscvm.wisc.EDU@adm.brl.mil (Timothy Stark) Subject: Where is TAR/UNTAR utility program in simtel20.arpa??? Message-Id: <4690@brl-adm.ARPA> Sender: info-cpm-request@simtel20.arpa To: info-cpm@simtel20.arpa Hello, I have looked for tar program in simtel20.arpa but I unable to find it! I found cpmshar utility and unarc 1.4 utility, etc.. But I unable to find arc utilit for cp/m in simtel20.arpa. I had looked for them! But I cannot find them. Your library didn't give description for all software. I don't understand what is filenames in pd: and pd:, pd:, and pd:. But pcblue, sig/m, etc.. gave me description completely. I find some TAR files in msdos library. But require tar program to untar TAR files. Need your help!!!!! Tim Stark. 26-Feb-87 04:35:35-MST,1347;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Thu 26 Feb 87 04:35:26-MST Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa01600; 26 Feb 87 0:31 EST Received: from WISCVM.WISC.EDU by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa01598; 26 Feb 87 0:23 EST Received: from H462BATMS by wiscvm.wisc.edu on 02/25/87 at 23:22:29 CST Date: Thu, 26-FEB-1987 00:19 EST From: Timothy Stark To: info-cpm@AMSAA-SEER.ARPA MMDF-Warning: Parse error in original version of preceding line at AMSAA-SEER.ARPA Subject: Where is TAR/UNTAR utility program in simtel20.arpa??? Message-ID: <8702260023.aa01598@AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA> Hello, I have looked for tar program in simtel20.arpa but I unable to find it! I found cpmshar utility and unarc 1.4 utility, etc.. But I unable to find arc utilit for cp/m in simtel20.arpa. I had looked for them! But I cannot find them. Your library didn't give description for all software. I don't understand what is filenames in pd: and pd:, pd:, and pd:. But pcblue, sig/m, etc.. gave me description completely. I find some TAR files in msdos library. But require tar program to untar TAR files. Need your help!!!!! Tim Stark. 26-Feb-87 09:09:02-MST,1119;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Thu 26 Feb 87 09:08:45-MST Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa02970; 26 Feb 87 9:06 EST Received: from NADC.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa02931; 26 Feb 87 8:50 EST Date: 26 Feb 1987 08:41:34-EST From: prindle@nadc.arpa To: beta!dzzr@caip, info-cpm@AMSAA-SEER.ARPA Subject: re: USART-8251 mode byte Message-ID: <8702260850.aa02931@AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA> The mode byte bits are as follows: Bits 7-6: Number of stop bits 00: invalid 01: 1 bit 10: 1.5 bits 11: 2 bits Bit 5: Parity type 0: odd 1: even Bit 4: Parity enable 0: disable 1: enable Bits 3-2: Character length (not including parity bit) 00: 5 bits 01: 6 bits 10: 7 bits 11: 8 bits Bits 1-0: Clock multiplier 00: Sync mode 01: 1X 10: 16X 11: 64X Thus 07AH is the correct setting for Seven bits, even parity, one stop bit, 16X clock. 05AH is the same with odd parity. Sincerely, Frank Prindle Prindle@NADC.arpa 26-Feb-87 10:29:23-MST,1192;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Thu 26 Feb 87 10:28:50-MST Received: by ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (5.53/1.23) id AA27032; Thu, 26 Feb 87 09:10:51 PST Received: from USENET by ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU with netnews for info-cpm-ddn@simtel20.arpa (info-cpm@simtel20.arpa) (contact usenet@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU if you have questions) Date: 26 Feb 87 14:17:21 GMT From: adm!prindle%nadc.arpa@adm.brl.mil Subject: re: USART-8251 mode byte Message-Id: <4702@brl-adm.ARPA> Sender: info-cpm-request@simtel20.arpa To: info-cpm@simtel20.arpa The mode byte bits are as follows: Bits 7-6: Number of stop bits 00: invalid 01: 1 bit 10: 1.5 bits 11: 2 bits Bit 5: Parity type 0: odd 1: even Bit 4: Parity enable 0: disable 1: enable Bits 3-2: Character length (not including parity bit) 00: 5 bits 01: 6 bits 10: 7 bits 11: 8 bits Bits 1-0: Clock multiplier 00: Sync mode 01: 1X 10: 16X 11: 64X Thus 07AH is the correct setting for Seven bits, even parity, one stop bit, 16X clock. 05AH is the same with odd parity. Sincerely, Frank Prindle Prindle@NADC.arpa 26-Feb-87 18:48:42-MST,1667;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Thu 26 Feb 87 18:47:59-MST Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa00608; 26 Feb 87 20:07 EST Received: from DMC-CRC.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa00601; 26 Feb 87 19:44 EST Received: by dmc-crc.ARPA (4.12/4.7) id AA13205; Thu, 26 Feb 87 19:43:52 est Date: Thu, 26 Feb 87 19:43:52 est From: "G. J. Marwood" Message-Id: <8702270043.AA13205@dmc-crc.ARPA> To: -v@dmc-crc.arpa, medin-t@shark.nosc.MIL Subject: Applicard and Super Serial Card Cc: info-cpm@AMSAA-SEER.ARPA Thanks for your comments re- the 9600 baud problem. From what you say, it may be impossible to run the Applicard at this speed, if the screen is going to be updated. I was thinking about two possible solutions, using a direct serial I/O from the Applicard bus or writing some sort of buffered driver for the Super Serial Card. Both of these would be fairly long term projects. However, if the screen is the limitation, the first solution may not work. I was also wondering whether some sort of block mode transfer to screen might be possible. One line at a time would presumably be more efficient than the present one character at a time. I have a ][+, so your other solution is not possible. I must use 9600 as I wish to be included in a group access to a VAX, which for complicated reasons cannot use autobauding, and 9600 has been chosen as the fixed rate. Thanks again Gordon Marwood 27-Feb-87 02:35:09-MST,1442;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Fri 27 Feb 87 02:34:52-MST Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa01472; 27 Feb 87 3:56 EST Received: from BRL-ADM.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa01464; 27 Feb 87 3:46 EST Received: from USENET by ADM.BRL.ARPA id aa02587; 27 Feb 87 3:46 EST From: Robert Lewis Harker Newsgroups: comp.os.cpm Subject: Wanted: Info on COLEX-880 CP/M machine Message-ID: <2665@well.UUCP> Date: 27 Feb 87 05:25:24 GMT Keywords: Colex-880 CP/M To: info-cpm@AMSAA-SEER.ARPA I have found a Colex-880 CP/M machine for sale and want to know if any one has any experience with it. I have the following questions: Is it a good manchine? Are there any user groups, BBS's, or companies that support it? Is there additional software for it? Is MicroEmacs available for it? I want to buy a CP/M machine to do assembly programming for a Z-80 microprocessor. I am wanting to do hardware development using a Z-80. I feel that the best way to do this is to have a host system to do development on. I like the machine because it is a STD bus machine with two 800K floppies and it is cheep ($275). Also can anybody recommend books on using CP/M and programming under CP/M. Thanks in advance RLH dual \ hoptoad > !well!harker lll-lcc / 27-Feb-87 03:23:04-MST,955;000000000000 Mail-From: WANCHO created at 27-Feb-87 03:22:55 Date: Fri 27 Feb 87 03:22:54-MST From: Frank J. Wancho Subject: PD: up-to-date To: INFO-CPM@SIMTEL20.ARPA, INFO-MICRO@BRL.ARPA, INFO-IBMPC@C.ISI.EDU, INFO-HZ100@RADC-TOPS20.ARPA cc: WANCHO@SIMTEL20.ARPA Message-ID: <12282346227.12.WANCHO@SIMTEL20.ARPA> Volumes 198 through 276, plus a new 000 have been added to our PC/BLUE collection in PD: on SIMTEL20.ARPA. This collection is supplied as-is from the regional distribution and available elsewhere on many Remote Bulletin Board systems, local computer clubs and national services such as CompuServe and GEnie. The usual disclaimers apply. PD:PC-BLUE.CRCLST is a very large file containing the CRC list of all the volumes as stored here and may not necessarily match the CRC values shown in the -CATALOG.nnn files, especially for the binary files. --Frank ------- 27-Feb-87 08:01:07-MST,1280;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Fri 27 Feb 87 08:01:01-MST Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa02385; 27 Feb 87 9:01 EST Received: from BRL-ADM.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa02349; 27 Feb 87 8:41 EST Received: from USENET by ADM.BRL.ARPA id aa00791; 27 Feb 87 8:39 EST From: "Frank J. Wancho" Newsgroups: comp.os.cpm Subject: PD: up-to-date Message-ID: <12282346227.12.WANCHO@SIMTEL20.ARPA> Date: 27 Feb 87 10:22:54 GMT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU To: info-cpm@AMSAA-SEER.ARPA Volumes 198 through 276, plus a new 000 have been added to our PC/BLUE collection in PD: on SIMTEL20.ARPA. This collection is supplied as-is from the regional distribution and available elsewhere on many Remote Bulletin Board systems, local computer clubs and national services such as CompuServe and GEnie. The usual disclaimers apply. PD:PC-BLUE.CRCLST is a very large file containing the CRC list of all the volumes as stored here and may not necessarily match the CRC values shown in the -CATALOG.nnn files, especially for the binary files. --Frank ------- 27-Feb-87 10:11:28-MST,1637;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Fri 27 Feb 87 10:10:51-MST Received: by ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (5.53/1.23) id AA12277; Thu, 26 Feb 87 21:16:06 PST Received: from USENET by ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU with netnews for info-cpm-ddn@simtel20.arpa (info-cpm@simtel20.arpa) (contact usenet@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU if you have questions) Date: 27 Feb 87 01:16:18 GMT From: adm!marwood%dmc-crc.arpa@adm.brl.mil (G. J. Marwood) Subject: Applicard and Super Serial Card Message-Id: <4716@brl-adm.ARPA> Sender: info-cpm-request@simtel20.arpa To: info-cpm@simtel20.arpa Thanks for your comments re- the 9600 baud problem. From what you say, it may be impossible to run the Applicard at this speed, if the screen is going to be updated. I was thinking about two possible solutions, using a direct serial I/O from the Applicard bus or writing some sort of buffered driver for the Super Serial Card. Both of these would be fairly long term projects. However, if the screen is the limitation, the first solution may not work. I was also wondering whether some sort of block mode transfer to screen might be possible. One line at a time would presumably be more efficient than the present one character at a time. I have a ][+, so your other solution is not possible. I must use 9600 as I wish to be included in a group access to a VAX, which for complicated reasons cannot use autobauding, and 9600 has been chosen as the fixed rate. Thanks again Gordon Marwood 27-Feb-87 10:22:16-MST,1483;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Fri 27 Feb 87 10:21:54-MST Received: by ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (5.53/1.23) id AA15898; Fri, 27 Feb 87 01:31:30 PST Received: from USENET by ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU with netnews for info-cpm-ddn@simtel20.arpa (info-cpm@simtel20.arpa) (contact usenet@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU if you have questions) Date: 27 Feb 87 05:25:24 GMT From: well!harker@LLL-LCC.ARPA (Robert Lewis Harker) Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link, Sausalito, CA Subject: Wanted: Info on COLEX-880 CP/M machine Message-Id: <2665@well.UUCP> Sender: info-cpm-request@simtel20.arpa To: info-cpm@simtel20.arpa I have found a Colex-880 CP/M machine for sale and want to know if any one has any experience with it. I have the following questions: Is it a good manchine? Are there any user groups, BBS's, or companies that support it? Is there additional software for it? Is MicroEmacs available for it? I want to buy a CP/M machine to do assembly programming for a Z-80 microprocessor. I am wanting to do hardware development using a Z-80. I feel that the best way to do this is to have a host system to do development on. I like the machine because it is a STD bus machine with two 800K floppies and it is cheep ($275). Also can anybody recommend books on using CP/M and programming under CP/M. Thanks in advance RLH dual \ hoptoad > !well!harker lll-lcc / 27-Feb-87 12:21:20-MST,1206;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Fri 27 Feb 87 12:21:08-MST Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa04751; 27 Feb 87 12:41 EST Received: from WISCVM.WISC.EDU by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa04562; 27 Feb 87 12:08 EST Received: from POMONA.BITNET by wiscvm.wisc.edu on 02/27/87 at 11:08:41 CST Date: Fri, 27 Feb 87 09:04:22 cet To: INFO-CPM@AMSAA-SEER.ARPA From: 7GMADISO%POMONA.BITNET@wiscvm.wisc.EDU Subject: Z-80 CP/M Machines Message-ID: <8702271208.aa04562@AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA> To: Robert Lewis Harker I don't know about the machine you asked about, but I'm going to stick my nose in and say that if that machine doesn't work out, look into a used Tandy Model 4. It will indeed run CP/M, and a very nice version at that (Montezeuma Micro). In addition, under its proprietary DOS (LS-DOS 6.3), it runs **THE** best Z-80 assembler I've ever seen, called Pro-MRAS, from a company called Misosys. For an 'obsolete' machine, the amount of support the Model 4 has has to be seen to be believed!! George Madison 27-Feb-87 16:43:47-MST,715;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Fri 27 Feb 87 16:43:35-MST Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa07143; 27 Feb 87 17:56 EST Received: from WISCVM.WISC.EDU by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa07117; 27 Feb 87 17:40 EST Received: from ECNCDC.BITNET by wiscvm.wisc.edu on 02/27/87 at 16:39:19 CST Date: Fri 27 Feb 1987 14:42 CST From: Wizzard Subject: To: INFO-CPM@AMSAA-SEER.ARPA MMDF-Warning: Parse error in original version of preceding line at AMSAA-SEER.ARPA Message-ID: <8702271740.aa07117@AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA> 27-Feb-87 17:46:23-MST,1363;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Fri 27 Feb 87 17:46:18-MST Received: from AMSAA-SEER.ARPA by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa07331; 27 Feb 87 18:44 EST Received: from WISCVM.WISC.EDU by AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA id aa07323; 27 Feb 87 18:36 EST Received: from ECNCDC.BITNET by wiscvm.wisc.edu on 02/27/87 at 17:34:24 CST Date: Fri 27 Feb 1987 14:56 CST From: Wizzard Subject: TRS-80/Tandy CP/M To: INFO-CPM@AMSAA-SEER.ARPA MMDF-Warning: Parse error in original version of preceding line at AMSAA-SEER.ARPA Message-ID: <8702271836.aa07323@AMSAA-SEER.AMSAA-SEER.ARPA> After pulling out the current issue of 80-Micro and looking through it, here are the available CP/M's for the 4p: Montezuma Micro $169 Hard disk driver, add $30 PO box 224767 Dallas, Texas 75222 USA ph: 800-527-0347 (USA) 800-442-1310 (Texas) 214-631-7900 This is the best CP/M I have seen for the Tandy Line CP/M Plus is available from any Radio Shack, but is not very compatible with most things. Rose's cp/m is just a very old version of Montezuma Micro CP/M and is somewhat limited compared to the new version. Scott McBurney Bitnet: MSRS003@ECNCDC 28-Feb-87 01:04:21-MST,1209;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Sat 28 Feb 87 01:04:12-MST Received: by ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (5.53/1.23) id AA02342; Fri, 27 Feb 87 19:44:00 PST Received: from USENET by ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU with netnews for info-cpm-ddn@simtel20.arpa (info-cpm@simtel20.arpa) (contact usenet@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU if you have questions) Date: 27 Feb 87 18:09:28 GMT From: adm!7GMADISO%POMONA.BITNET%wiscvm.wisc.EDU@adm.brl.mil Subject: Z-80 CP/M Machines Message-Id: <4720@brl-adm.ARPA> Sender: info-cpm-request@simtel20.arpa To: info-cpm@simtel20.arpa To: Robert Lewis Harker I don't know about the machine you asked about, but I'm going to stick my nose in and say that if that machine doesn't work out, look into a used Tandy Model 4. It will indeed run CP/M, and a very nice version at that (Montezeuma Micro). In addition, under its proprietary DOS (LS-DOS 6.3), it runs **THE** best Z-80 assembler I've ever seen, called Pro-MRAS, from a company called Misosys. For an 'obsolete' machine, the amount of support the Model 4 has has to be seen to be believed!! George Madison 28-Feb-87 01:11:11-MST,1799;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Sat 28 Feb 87 01:10:59-MST Received: by ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (5.53/1.23) id AA01076; Fri, 27 Feb 87 18:20:04 PST Received: from USENET by ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU with netnews for info-cpm-ddn@simtel20.arpa (info-cpm@simtel20.arpa) (contact usenet@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU if you have questions) Date: 27 Feb 87 19:56:32 GMT From: amdahl!meccts!viper!john@ames.arpa (John Stanley) Organization: DynaSoft Systems Subject: Re: Applicard and Super Serial Card at 9600 baud Message-Id: <597@viper.UUCP> References: <4684@brl-adm.ARPA> Sender: info-cpm-request@simtel20.arpa To: info-cpm@simtel20.arpa In article <4684@brl-adm.ARPA> marwood@dmc-crc.arpa (G. J. Marwood) writes: >Does anyone have any experience of using the PCPI Applicard and Super Serial >card at 9600 baud. I have tried this and found that a lot of characters are >dropped. Your problem is probably related to whatever driver routines you are using to receive information from the card(s). At 9600, there really isn't enough time to do much with the data once you've got it (mainly due to the slow 6502 processing). I've managed to transfer information at 19200 baud using the super-serial card, but only if I do the processing myself in assembly language and don't try doing anything related to printing on the screen or writing to any other peripherals. (you might be able to print on the screen using your own routines, but don't try it using the normal apple-bios way, you'll loose characters every time). What language(s) are you using for this? --- John Stanley (john@viper.UUCP) Software Consultant - DynaSoft Systems UUCP: ...{amdahl,ihnp4,rutgers}!{meccts,dayton}!viper!john 28-Feb-87 03:27:50-MST,908;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Sat 28 Feb 87 03:27:43-MST Received: by ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (5.53/1.23) id AA07477; Sat, 28 Feb 87 02:10:08 PST Received: from USENET by ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU with netnews for info-cpm-ddn@simtel20.arpa (info-cpm@simtel20.arpa) (contact usenet@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU if you have questions) Date: 27 Feb 87 01:09:45 GMT From: beta!dlc@nyu.arpa (Dale Carstensen) Organization: Los Alamos Natl Lab, Los Alamos, N.M. Subject: Where is the Unix crunch/uncrunch? Message-Id: <1477@beta.UUCP> Sender: info-cpm-request@simtel20.arpa To: info-cpm@simtel20.arpa I thought I saved a reference to where a Unix crunch utility could be found, but I can't find such a reference. Can anyone point me to the right place? Dale Carstensen arpa: dlc@lanl.gov uucp: {cmcl2 | ihnp4}!lanl!dlc 28-Feb-87 03:28:06-MST,1066;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Sat 28 Feb 87 03:28:00-MST Received: by ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (5.53/1.23) id AA07510; Sat, 28 Feb 87 02:11:01 PST Received: from USENET by ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU with netnews for info-cpm-ddn@simtel20.arpa (info-cpm@simtel20.arpa) (contact usenet@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU if you have questions) Date: 27 Feb 87 05:07:42 GMT From: beta!dzzr@nyu.arpa (Douglas J Roberts) Organization: Los Alamos Natl Lab, Los Alamos, N.M. Subject: UART 8251 Commands Message-Id: <1484@beta.UUCP> Sender: info-cpm-request@simtel20.arpa To: info-cpm@simtel20.arpa Many of you sent me the data that I requested - thanks. A most thorough description of the 8251 was provided by an article called Programming the Intel 8251A USART, written by Ed Greenberg. This article can be found in a file called INTE8251.ART on SIMTEL20 (thanks again, Keith). -- Douglas J. Roberts, dzzr@lanl.gov Los Alamos National Laboratory Box 1663, F602 Los Alamos, N. M. 87544 28-Feb-87 15:29:16-MST,2117;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Sat 28 Feb 87 15:29:04-MST Received: by ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (5.53/1.23) id AA15872; Sat, 28 Feb 87 14:17:51 PST Received: from USENET by ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU with netnews for info-cpm-ddn@simtel20.arpa (info-cpm@simtel20.arpa) (contact usenet@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU if you have questions) Date: 28 Feb 87 01:38:12 GMT From: cbatt!clyde!watmath!watnot!cagordon@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Chris Gordon) Organization: U. of Waterloo, Ontario Subject: CP/M->MSDOS summary Message-Id: <12531@watnot.UUCP> Sender: info-cpm-request@simtel20.arpa To: info-cpm@simtel20.arpa Recently I posted a request looking for a CP/M->MSDOS copier. In case anyone else is interested in such a utility, here are the two which come most highly recommended (yes, they are in order from 1st to 2nd most recommended): Uniform - installs as device driver (a new line in CONFIG.SYS), allows transparent access to CP/M files via a different drive code. - supports numerous CP/M formats except Apple - from: Micro Solutions 125 S. Fourth St. DeKalb, Illinois 60115 (815) 756-3411 - price: $69.95-$79 (got too conflicting prices) MediaMaster - available for a wide variety of micros. - transfer to/from a wide variety of machines/formats. - from: Intersecting Concepts 4573 Heatherglen Ct. Moorpark, California 93021 (805) 529-5073 or 1-800-824-7888 (oper 251) [24hr toll free ordering line] - price: ? There were also a couple of others such as Convert and Big Blue Reader II (BBR II runs on the C128, I assume, since BBR does) but I don't know too much about them. Chris -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Chris Gordon UUCP: {abunchasystems}!watmath!watnot!cagordon U of Waterloo, Ont CompuServe: 72030,104 CSNET: cagordon%watnot@Waterloo.CSNET ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "I always have fun 'cause I'm out of my mind!!!" - ZTP