1-Mar-89 01:49:13-MST,2661;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Wed, 1 Mar 89 01:31:12 MST From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #56 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL INFO-CPM Digest Wed, 1 Mar 89 Volume 89 : Issue 56 Today's Topics: CP/M Software House(s) ??? Intel hex (*.HEX) format questions ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 28 Feb 89 05:01:46 GMT From: killer!mjbtn!root@ames.arc.nasa.gov (Mark J. Bailey) Subject: CP/M Software House(s) ??? Hello, I am posting ths for a friend who has a Toshiba Model T100 (Z80?) with 64K RAM running CP/M (1.7?). He has two 5.25" floppy drives. I am an Unix/MS-DOS user (please, no pies in the face ;-) ), so I don't know too much about it. He thinks that it is supposed to be similar to Kaypro's of the smae time period. What we need to know is: 1) Who out there has and/or is still using this machine (or similar) ? 2) Where in the U.S. can you buy (mailorder) PD or Commercial CP/M software for this type of machine? 3) Can someone tell which of the sub-level directories of the SIMTEL20 CP/M archive would apply to this machine? Again, we really don't know much more about it, so please excuse our ignorance. We are hoping to find some good software out there to maintain the machine's usefulness. Please email responses to me and I will relay them to him. He currently does not have net access. Thank you so much in advance! Mark. -- Mark J. Bailey "Ya'll com bak naw, ya hear!" USMAIL: 511 Memorial Blvd., Murfreesboro, TN 37129 ___________________________ VOICE: +1 615 893 0098 | JobSoft UUCP: ...!{ames,mit-eddie}!killer!mjbtn!mjb | Design & Development Co. DOMAIN: mjb@mjbtn.MFEE.TN.US | Murfreesboro, TN USA ------------------------------ Date: 28 Feb 89 01:12:30 GMT From: osu-cis!n8emr!uncle!oink!jep@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu (James E. Prior) Subject: Intel hex (*.HEX) format questions In article <19411@prls.UUCP> gordon@prls.UUCP (Gordon Vickers) writes: > > There are two forms of Intel Hex format. One is often referred to as > Intellect format, the other is Extended Intellec. I beleive that the > former is also known as Motorala 'S' records. Both Intel Hex formats are substantially different from Motorola 'S' records. ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest ****************************** 2-Mar-89 01:44:29-MST,3140;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Thu, 2 Mar 89 01:30:21 MST From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #57 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL INFO-CPM Digest Thu, 2 Mar 89 Volume 89 : Issue 57 Today's Topics: Checksum program (was: Intel Hex Format Records) CP/M Hard disk backup/restore ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 1 Mar 89 20:58:50 GMT From: pyramid!prls!gordon@lll-lcc.llnl.gov (Gordon Vickers) Subject: Checksum program (was: Intel Hex Format Records) FYI: I have a program (written in C ) that reads a file containing Intel Hex format records, verifies the checksum of each record and produces a file checksum for the data fields only (i.e. the kind of checksum an EPROM programmer may give you if it read a chip that contained the data only). I find this useful in two situtations: 1) verify the programmer downloaded the file correctly, 2) verify that data files transferred from the programmer to the computer arrived OK. I like storing EPROM data online if it contains code that I don't maintain. If an EPROM goes bad, I don't need to buy one from the equipment manufacture, just burn a replacement. The program name is: cksum If there is a great enough respondce, I'll try posting it to the appropriate newsgroup ( sources.misc or whatever it's called) else I'll send copies to all requesters. The program is written in a very easy to understand style and contains comments. cksum.c: 85 426 2926 (lines,words,bytes) Gordon Vickers 408/991-5370 (Sunnyvale,Ca); {mips|pyramid|philabs}!prls!gordon Every extinction, whether animal, mineral, or vegetable, hastens our own demise. ------------------------------ Date: 1 Mar 89 18:44:20 GMT From: uop!mrapple@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu (Nick Sayer) Subject: CP/M Hard disk backup/restore Anyone know of any good PD software for backing up and restoring my CP/M hard disk system? Such software should, of course, be able to figure out that multiple user areas contain files. Thanks in advance. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Nick Sayer | mrapple@uop.edu | Packet Radio: N6QQQ @ WB6V-2 uucp: ...!ucbvax!ucdavis!uop!mrapple Disclaimer: "The BBC would like to appologize for that last announcement." cat flames > /dev/null ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Mar 89 13:36 PST From: Steven Russell I have heard rumor of a plan by ArpaNet to cut it's connections to the rest of the world. One consequence of this would seem to be that the archives at simtel-20 would no longer be reachable by FTP. Do any of you folks out there know anything about this? -Steven Russell (srussell@uoneuro.uoregon.edu) ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest ****************************** 3-Mar-89 01:52:10-MST,6466;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Fri, 3 Mar 89 01:30:27 MST From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #58 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL INFO-CPM Digest Fri, 3 Mar 89 Volume 89 : Issue 58 Today's Topics: C-128 (Rob Fugina) INFO-CPM Digest V89 #57 PCPI CPM w.o. mouse garbage postal disk problems (was Re: Commdore's poor service to its CP/M customers) (2 msgs) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 2 Mar 89 19:23:29 MST From: Raymond Carter STEWS-NR-AD 678-1536 Subject: C-128 (Rob Fugina) Sorry to post to the net, but can't get mail sent to Rob Fugina. I'll be glad to help. My address is: Ray Carter 1965 Thomas Drive Las Cruces, NM 88001 Phone, if you need it, is 505-522-6898. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Mar 89 22:50 EST From: Lewallen@DOCKMASTER.ARPA Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #57 Reference Hard disk backup on CPM System: An immediate solution is to use NSWP. Log into your drive using D* (which means all user areas), wildcard tag all files; and then say copy to your floppy drive (ex A*). When your floppy becomes full, remove and insert another floppy and then say mass copy again. Do not retag the files. NSWP will copy the files to all the floppys in the respective user areas on the floppys and are recoverable using a reverse process with each floppy to the hard drive. Better ideas are available using zcpr3. Rick Charnes is publishing an article in a future issue of The Computer Journal on a methodology he uses. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Mar 89 0:04:34 EST From: Steve Lesh (ISC | howard) Subject: PCPI CPM w.o. mouse garbage I would like to run PCPI CPM on my GS but haven't been able to find a driver able to display the inverse video caps of programs like Wordstar. If anyone knows where I can get a free (no more money is going into the old Apple!!!) video driver, I would appreciate hearing from you. Thanks in advance. ------------------------------ Date: 1 Mar 89 15:21:45 GMT From: cadnetix.COM!cadnetix!rusty@uunet.uu.net (Rusty) Subject: postal disk problems (was Re: Commdore's poor service to its CP/M customers) In article w8sdz@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL (Keith Petersen) writes: >After waiting MONTHS for Commodore to ship his 1581 CP/M disk Bob Evinger >has had enough. Commdore cashed his check and then claimed the disk >wasn't in stock. They have been giving him excuses ever since. > Keith, since I assume that he mailed the check to them, and since I assume that CBM still advertises in magazines (which are usually mailed to subscribers), a talk with the local postal inspector may be in order. After seeing how the postal inspector is going after the person in New York (or wherever he is), maybe he can find a bored PI who would love to attack a big company. (Assuming that the company refuses to refund his money within the alloted time.) On another note, also dealing with the post office: Someone, in some news group some time back, mentioned having problems with the mailman folding floppy disks. I have a friend who subcontracts rural delivery for the PO, and he told me that, if the mail carrier ignores your explanations, then you should complain to their supervisor. It *will* go on their record. You might *first* warn your carrier that folding disks is not acceptable, and if it continues then you will have to report it to their supervisor. Also, you may wish to have someone send you a disk *insured*, and when it arrives folded, collect on the insurance. All these things (collected insurance, reports of damaged mail) will go on his record. Of course, you do have to first decide if your delivery person is a total jerk who will attempt to retaliate by such federal crimes as intentionally delaying payments and bills, or even not delivering such items. (Most of the above is *not* directly from my friend. He only suggested that having a talk with the carrier's supervisor should help. The rest is my pontification. Standard disclaimers apply, I suppose. Your mileage may vary.) -----(and the ham callsign project goes on! for info, ask:)------- Rusty Carruth UUCP:{uunet,boulder}!cadnetix!rusty DOMAIN: rusty@cadnetix.com Cadnetix Corp. (303) 444-8075x241 \ 5775 Flatiron Pkwy. \ Boulder, Co 80301 Radio: N7IKQ 'home': P.O.B. 461 \ Lafayette, CO 80026 ------------------------------ Date: 2 Mar 89 17:14:32 GMT From: blake!djo7613@beaver.cs.washington.edu (Dick O'Connor) Subject: postal disk problems (was Re: Commdore's poor service to its CP/M customers) As an ex-mail carrier, I thought I'd add a side note before irate postal customers thrash the wrong person inadvertently! You get mail six days a week, at least at your residence. Mail carriers work 5 days a week, usually with a rotating day off. This means that at least *once* a week (more during the flu season or summertime) a less experienced carrier is handling your route. These are professional "subs" who may carry five different routes each week, but sometimes are carriers just starting out who haven't the seniority to "bid" on a permanent route of their own. Point is, if you have a delivery complaint CHECK THE DATE OF DELIVERY before your call in the postal supervisors. They may mistakenly berate the regular carrier, when in fact the sub was "on" that day, and was responsible. Note: this is not meant to castigate the subs. When I was a 90-day temp as a lad in Illinois, the professional subs (T1's) were well-respected and paid more. It's no mean feat to memorize deliveries for five entire routes!! Dick O'Connor Washington Department of Fisheries Olympia, Washington 98504 Internet Mail: djo7613@blake.acs.washington.edu **************************************************************************** DISCLAIMER: I speak only for myself, not for the Department. Here, anyway! **************************************************************************** ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest ****************************** 4-Mar-89 01:51:50-MST,1232;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Sat, 4 Mar 89 01:30:36 MST From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #59 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL INFO-CPM Digest Sat, 4 Mar 89 Volume 89 : Issue 59 Today's Topics: CP/M Software House(s) ??? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 2 Mar 89 20:26:00 GMT From: clio!berger@uxc.cso.uiuc.edu Subject: CP/M Software House(s) ??? I just gave one of those away. They're still supported to a very limited extent by Toshiba's Printer Division. I have a T-200, which has an 8085. The T-100 had a Z-80, as you said, but the serial port was a software emulation of an 8251. Any generic CP/M software should work, but I never had much success with the IOBYTE stuff, and I couldn't find a customized CP/M Kermit for either the T-100 or T-200. Mike Berger Department of Statistics University of Illinois berger@clio.las.uiuc.edu {convex | pur-ee}!uiucuxc!clio!berger ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest ****************************** 5-Mar-89 01:49:30-MST,1765;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Sun, 5 Mar 89 01:30:20 MST From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #60 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL INFO-CPM Digest Sun, 5 Mar 89 Volume 89 : Issue 60 Today's Topics: (none) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 4 Mar 89 23:31:10 GMT From: caesar.usc.edu!mlinar@oberon.usc.edu (Mitch Mlinar) Subject: (none) In article <8903020308.AA28551@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> SRUSSELL@UONEURO.UOREGON.EDU (Steven Russell) writes: >I have heard rumor of a plan by ArpaNet to cut it's connections to >the rest of the world. One consequence of this would seem to be >that the archives at simtel-20 would no longer be reachable by FTP. Yes and maybe. DARPA will be stopping funding of what we call ArpaNet in April or May of this year (I forget the exact date). All the connectivity will remain provided that each university/company/etc. ante up $$$$ to keep and manage their own connection. I know that USC is taking charge of managing some/most/all the LA network. Cost may be an issue: prices I have heard vary from $30k to $75k for startup connection PLUS $30k-$75k/yr usage fee. In short, the net must now be fully self-sustaining without direct goverment funds. My guess is that more than a few companies and universities will flee the net, but as to how few or how many is anybody's guess. As far as connection to simtel-20 and such, I don't know. Maybe Keith has an answer to that one. -Mitch ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest ****************************** 7-Mar-89 01:50:58-MST,1296;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Tue, 7 Mar 89 01:31:02 MST From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #61 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL INFO-CPM Digest Tue, 7 Mar 89 Volume 89 : Issue 61 Today's Topics: Need info on any Northstar Advantage modem programs (arch sites?) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 7 Mar 89 00:15:18 GMT From: tramp!hassell@boulder.colorado.edu (Christopher Hassell) Subject: Need info on any Northstar Advantage modem programs (arch sites?) That is basically it. I have a friend who is still sporting a Real Live Northstar Advantage (one dead drive, though) and is likely to come onto a Hayes modem. He had a home-written program buuuut it had NOT even been tested and it is full of bugs. He has the serial card, connected to his printer, and he simply wants to use it for a modem if possible. If anyone can give me any archive sites for obscure stuff like this, they have a (hopefully) working assembler. Thanks alot (or in condensed net.lang -> 10Q) ### C>H> ### ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest ****************************** 11-Mar-89 01:51:35-MST,3779;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Sat, 11 Mar 89 01:30:11 MST From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #62 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL INFO-CPM Digest Sat, 11 Mar 89 Volume 89 : Issue 62 Today's Topics: CONIX Utilities TRS-80 CPM Disks (2 msgs) ZCPR3 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu 10 Mar 1989 16:40:12 EDT From: SAGE@LL.ARPA Subject: CONIX Utilities Local addressee: SAGE Message-ID: We have been having a very difficult time with our mailer, with most messages sent directly to people not getting through. Some weeks back I asked for some CONIX utilities, and Ted Nolan volunteered to send them to me. I have a feeling that none of my replies to him got through, so I ask everyone's forebearance while I post this to the newsgroup. Ted, I just spoke to the individual who needed the CP and MV utilities, and he says that he could handle an MS-DOS 360K format diskette just fine. So, could you please send the files directly to him. He will be most happy to cover your expenses and trouble. Just let him know what you would like. Here is his mailing address: Bill Loughman 393 Gravatt Drive Berkeley, CA 94705 Thanks for your help. -- Jay Sage ------------------------------ Date: 10 Mar 89 23:21:14 GMT From: sunkisd!maxwell!goldfish@bloom-beacon.mit.edu ( PAUL GOLDSMITH | BBKFH41 | SGWER307-1 | ) Subject: TRS-80 CPM Disks Does anyone know if the TRS-80 Model 4 CPM Plus will operate with DSDD drives? This is the version sold by Radio Shack and does not come with BIOS source. My Model 4-P seems to support double sided drives, however I don't want to open it up if it is hopeless. - Goldfish Ps: And while I'm at it, RS dropped the TRS line like a hot rock and neither support, nor released source of their CP/M BIOS, even though their documentation says it comes with the package. Their service is usually excellent, but not for "stale" products. ------------------------------ Date: 11 Mar 89 04:49:02 GMT From: eichin@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Mark W. Eichin) Subject: TRS-80 CPM Disks Hmm. Check over in comp.sys.tandy, but I think there is some odd problem with the Model 4P drives. It may have only been that you couldn't add more than the existing two drives without PC board hacking, but check and see if someone has tried+failed just from the hardware end first. _Mark_ ps. Does anyone know if Software 2000 is still in business? I have a license for my personal copy of TurboDOS, of which I have the port to the Model 4 (in fact, the Model 4P I am typing from...) If there is anyway to "liberate" TurboDOS, I'd go though the effort to liberate the drivers for the ported version (myself and two others hold copyrights to the drivers.) The floppy driver (which I wrote) could read DSDD on the Model4D, and in fact it could read some 40 different formats including BOTH Osborne ones... but I ramble. _Mark_ ------------------------------ Date: 9 Mar 89 03:48:16 GMT From: att!alberta!calgary!cpsc!mccormick@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Wayne Mccormick) Subject: ZCPR3 I was wondering if anybody knows how I can get ZCPR3 for my Heath H-90. I've looked at the files on SIMTEL, if everything I need is there, which ones do I need? Thanks in Advance, Wayne Wayne McCormick mccormick@cpsc.UCalgary.ca :-) ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest ****************************** 12-Mar-89 01:53:02-MST,7087;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Sun, 12 Mar 89 01:30:30 MST From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #63 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL INFO-CPM Digest Sun, 12 Mar 89 Volume 89 : Issue 63 Today's Topics: Need info on card TurboDOS Kermit Summary and Travel Report ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 10 Mar 89 17:59:59 GMT From: hpda!hpcupt1!hprnd!wgh@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Bill Hooper) Subject: Need info on card HELP!! I am looking for documentation for an S100 card made by California Computer Systems (CCS). It is a 64K dynamic RAM card, model 2066. I am willing to pay reasonable copy charges. Thanks, Bill Hooper, HP Roseville Networks Division, wgh@hprnd.hp.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ That's the problem with crunch heads - they have one great idea that actually works then they expect you to carry on funding them for years while they sit and calculate the topographies of their navels. Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency. Douglas Adams ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: 11 Mar 89 05:58:52 GMT From: eichin@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Mark W. Eichin) Subject: TurboDOS Kermit Summary and Travel Report The question: is there a kermit or [xyz]modem in Z80 assembler, or any version already built that works with the TurboDOS T-functions? The answers: 1) Ken Yap pointed me to the ftp directories on cunixc.cc.columbia.edu, which have the master sources for Kermit for EVERYTHING. Well, almost everything. They also have a Public Domain Assembler and Linker for CP/M, which can compile the CP/M Kermit distribution. 2) Frank J. Wancho suggested Ron Fowler's "MEX" program, of which an early release can be found in simtel20 PD2:. This several variants of Xmodem, kermit, and others. Frank also pointed out that TMODEM was the name he gave to his own TOPS20 version of MODEM7; I have also seen a UNIX modem program of that name, so it was a common idea, but as Frank pointed out, it is just a name, not a different protocol. 3) Robert Bloom pointed out that both IMP and MEX have overlays for TurboDOS, and that the latest Commercial version of MEX+ v1.65 has a built-in installer that supports TurboDOS. He also mentioned 1800-niteowl as the phone number for Ron Fowler's company. 4) David Goodenough mentioned QTERM, a program which is written in Z80 assembler (though a custom one) and supports Kermit and X/Y MODEM. It turns out that there are two different versions of TurboDOS support available for MEX - one of them includes an extension module for passing through blocks of data to the Master in a Master-Slave system when the Master has the modem and you are using it from a slave; the other may be simple T-fxn calls, I never got deep enough to tell. Now for the interesting part: I actually have a Kermit running. 1) I got MLOAD from simtel20 PD2: (which has lots of other neat stuff too.) 2) I got XASM.SHAR[12] from PD2:. a) It didn't unshar. To fix this: change all ` (backquote, 96 decimal, 060H) to ' (forward quote, 027H). These are all in comments (backquote doesn't mean anything in normal C, and in some mutant versions it means "begin BCD constant", or at least it did a long time ago.) and they interfere with the unpacking (at least under 4.3BSD) because the "sh" of the unshar thinks it has to evaluate them. b) Once it unshared, it didn't quite compile. To fix this, find several occurances of '\' in the files produced and make them '\\'. I don't know why this didn't survive shar'ing, and haven't had the time to check. The shar file has them doubled, but passing them through sh ate one level of quoting. c) It is an effective assembler, except for one thing: it can't build the Kermit distribution. (see below) To fix this, I added the "LINK" operator. I just hacked it in, eventually I'll try to make it cleaner, but that worked. 3) I got kermit/a/cp[sx]*.asm and a few other relevant files (also kermit/aaa*, for the 'readme' stuff.) There wasn't any documentation on how to "just build it", but on reading though some of the files I figured out: a) First, asm80 cpsker. This gives you the system independent cpsker.hex, around 62K of hex file, which is the base. This should be common to most systems; download it, MLOAD it, and if you run it you'll get "not configured for any system". b) Next, asm80 cpxtyp. This builds cpxtyp.hex, around 3K (for me) of hex file, which has the system dependent stuff. To actually get the right content, you have to have set flags in a few places, or i my case add if/endif sets. Stragtegy: pick a system that is "as weird as" yours, then just use it as a template for figuring out what you have to customize. c) download cpxtyp.hex, MLOAD kermit=cpsker.com,cpxtyp and opoof, you have a kermit. Run it, discover that it works in connect mode but spits out continuous streams of "k" in send mode, and try again. :-) [this was a symptom of my screwing up the push/pop pairs around the modem send routines... ddt to the rescue! and it worked.] d) download ROGUE.LBR, unpack it, and relax for a while :-) then delete it, because it takes 30K of a 180K disk and you only have two drives to use. 4) I downloaded a software set that gives me the same software on the UNIX and CP/M side: CP/M Unix LASM asm80 MLOAD ? UNARC arc UUD uudecode UUE uuencode USQ120 usq SQ111 sq LU lar KERMIT ckermit zmac, zdis There is other corresponding software, but all of the above is Public Domain. I also haven't finished searching the archives. (CP/M is, after all, a hobby for me...) I'm still looking for an EMACS... however, SmallC21 is probably my next endeavor. After that, maybe a Z80/CP-M emulator for Unix... My one problem at the moment: while kermit downlaods and uploads fine, when I get or put a file, and it prints the filename on the screen, it immediately follows it with about 5 lines of garbage. It appears to be running beyond the end of a buffer, but it is hard to tell where to start (I checked prtstr, and nothing looked obvious...). Next stop --- ddt. Thank you for your attention, I hope someone else is able to use some of this information. If you want the LINK patches to XASM (asm80) even as they are, I can send them to you. If you run the archive and want them, send me mail and let me know and I'll send them to you when I've cleaned them up. If anything above is wrong, please let me know... Mark Eichin ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest ****************************** 13-Mar-89 01:52:02-MST,1375;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Mon, 13 Mar 89 01:30:45 MST From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #64 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL INFO-CPM Digest Mon, 13 Mar 89 Volume 89 : Issue 64 Today's Topics: RPICICGE File Server Problems ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 02 Mar 89 14:39:15 EST From: "John S. Fisher" Subject: RPICICGE File Server Problems The file server at RPICICGE has been having a bad streak of luck the last several weeks. Many more requests where coming in than could be handled, and all but requests for the smallest files were getting rejected. A recent change to the server itself and some on-going changes to the gateway from NYSERNET to the ARPANET have caused a noticable improvement. Most requests are now being handled first time whereas before they were being rejected every time. In addition, there is a completely identical server located at NDSUVM1, and it has apparently experienced fewer connectivity problems.... Regards, JSFisher Maintainer of LISTSERV@RPICICGE, et.al. ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest ****************************** 14-Mar-89 01:43:42-MST,1295;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Tue, 14 Mar 89 01:30:22 MST From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #65 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL INFO-CPM Digest Tue, 14 Mar 89 Volume 89 : Issue 65 Today's Topics: Vector 4 modem problems ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 13 Mar 1989 20:25 EST From: Bruce Ide Subject: Vector 4 modem problems I have recently purchased a vector-4/40 and a lot of disks. It didn't have a modem, but I have a Sinclair 300/1200 baud modem and a rs-232 cable that the ports both on the modem and on the computer. I have Terminal programs, Mex, Modem7 or something like that, and ASYN something. I can get modem7 to say that it is dialing using the "Cal" command, however the modem doesn't do anything discernable (No lights flash or anything). The program says ATDT and stops. How can I change ATDT to AT DP, and can I "Talk" directly to the modem through some wierd CP/M or Vector-4 command? Any help would be appreciated. ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest ****************************** 15-Mar-89 01:34:22-MST,3311;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Wed, 15 Mar 89 01:30:29 MST From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #66 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL INFO-CPM Digest Wed, 15 Mar 89 Volume 89 : Issue 66 Today's Topics: a correction INFO-CPM Digest V89 #65 Unix utilities for LBR manipulation ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 14 Mar 1989 17:11 EST From: Grey Fox Subject: a correction Many apologies. It's not a Sinclair, it's a Samsung Modem. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Mar 89 20:23 EST From: Lewallen@DOCKMASTER.ARPA Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #65 Re Vector 4 Modem Problems--You can talk directly with the modem while in Mex/modemm7 using the T command from the MEX>> prompt. You will then be talking directly with the serial port. If the sinclar modem is a hayes Compatable, the dial command should have done something. I suspect since you did not see any lights (rd or sd lights) blinking, that the port is not initialized (ie the computer does not recognize the port is there). You should have some config program that allows you to set the baud rate, keypad definitions and the like. This is a program that is usually on your CPM master disk. Since you have cpm running, I guess you would have this. One other thing comes to mind as I think about this is that modem7/mex need overlays for the machine you have in order for the program to under stand where the serial port is. If you have not received a modem7/mex program with the overlay already installed, you need to do that first. Go back to the place where you got the mex and look for an overlay file for your machine. The name might be MXO-VT11.AQM or something like that. You will need to assemble it and then load it over mex. I hope this will help. Ric Lewallen ------------------------------ Date: 14 Mar 89 16:20 +0100 From: Mitchell Wyle Subject: Unix utilities for LBR manipulation >From lavi!lavi.uucp!wyle Tue Mar 14 16:16:10 1989 remote from ethz Are there utilities like _nulu_ for extracting files from .LBR archives which run on UNIX(tm)? Is there source code available for such utilities? I can't find any in the simtel archives (from looking at file-names). I can't find any in comp.sources.unix, either. I suppose that once I extract the files, they'll be compressed, so I'll need uncompression utilities on UNIX(tm) as well. I have seen compress, compact, arc, and splay-compress, but I have never seen crunch / uncrunch on UNIX(tm)... Does anyone else out there work on UNIX(tm) machines a lot and have a CP/M machine at home? I currently have to down load the .LBR archive-files to my CP/M machine, extract all the files, then up-load the documentation again to print it on the UNIX(tm) host. Thanks in advance for your help. -Mitch (wyle@ethz.uucp or wyle@inf.ethz.ch) ----------------- UNIX is a trademark of AT&T. ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest ****************************** 16-Mar-89 01:52:47-MST,3102;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Thu, 16 Mar 89 01:30:37 MST From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #67 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL INFO-CPM Digest Thu, 16 Mar 89 Volume 89 : Issue 67 Today's Topics: NULU on UNIX(tm)? TRS-80 DSDD drives and CP/M Vector 4 Modem problems: The saga continues ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 14 Mar 89 15:18:25 GMT From: mcvax!cernvax!ethz!ethz-inf!wyle@uunet.uu.net (Mitchell Wyle) Subject: NULU on UNIX(tm)? I'm looking for utilities to extract and decompress files from .LBR archives on UNIX. Does anyone else work on UNIX at work, have a CP/M machine at home? Thanks, -Mitch -- -Mitchell F. Wyle wyle@ethz.uucp Institut fuer Informationssysteme wyle@inf.ethz.ch ETH Zentrum / 8092 Zurich, Switzerland +41 1 256 5237 ------------------------------ Date: Wed 15 Mar 1989 12:34 CDT From: Scott McBurney Subject: TRS-80 DSDD drives and CP/M The trs-80 model 4 supports 4 drives, double or single sided, 40 or 80 tracks. I don't know if Radio Shack's CP/m supports other than the standard drives, but it should since the 4D has double sided drives. The model 4p will only support 2 drives, but it still has support without modification for both sides. Montezuma Micro supports double and single sides, and almost any drive type. scott mcburney Western Illinois University MSRS003 @ ECNCDC ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 1989 17:08 EST From: Bruce Ide Subject: Vector 4 Modem problems: The saga continues Ok, This is what I have so far: Got this vector 4 and a samsung modem and a RS-232 cable between the two. I have the RS232 plugged into the far right serial port (The one marked serial com.) When I turn the modem on after I've powered up the computer, all the lights that should come on come on, but SD and RD also come on. I used config to initialize the modem port, so that is not the problem. I hooked the modem to the other port to see if the labeling was wrong, but though just the right modem lights come on, my terminal software (Mainly KERMIT, though I have mex and mdm700 too). A consultant here thinks maybe my RS232 read/send pins are in the wrong order. Could this be causing my problem? I know the modem works because I tested it on an IBM PC. I have three hypotheses right now: 1) My computer was damaged in the mail, 2) Got the wrong port or software, 3) The RS232 pins are in the wrong order. Now, if my computer was damaged, the self test that it goes through before booting should tell me. Would either of the other two be causing my problem? ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest ****************************** 17-Mar-89 01:44:09-MST,3085;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Fri, 17 Mar 89 01:30:17 MST From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #68 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL INFO-CPM Digest Fri, 17 Mar 89 Volume 89 : Issue 68 Today's Topics: Bug in CP/M Turbo Pascal 3.0 INFO-CPM Digest V89 #67 Thanks! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 16 Mar 89 13:17:42 EST From: @ll-vlsi.arpa:black@micro Subject: Bug in CP/M Turbo Pascal 3.0 I was having problems in a large program used for image processing which made frequent use of the 'mod' operator. Positive numbers worked fine, e.g., 7 mod 5 = 2, or 5 mod 7 = 5 Negative numbers are handled badly. -7 mod 5 = -2 [OK] BUT: -5 mod 7 = 5 [WRONG!!!] The latter result was causing the problems. I thought maybe I had the operation's definition wrong, but the manual for TP5.0 says that the result always carries the sign of the first operand. The 3.0 manual doesn't really define the operation. The operation DOES work properly on the MS-DOS (shudder) version of TP 3.0, only the CP/M version is flawed. I assume this problem has been aired, but this will serve as a reminder for those like me who missed it! Jerry G Black, MIT Lincoln Laboratory, 244 Wood St. C-120, Lexington MA 02173 Phone (617) 981-4721 Fax (617) 862-9057 black@micro@VLSI.LL.MIT.EDU ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Mar 89 15:03 EST From: Lewallen@DOCKMASTER.ARPA Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #67 RE: Vector 4 & modem -- It will not hurt to try swapping the pins on the 232 ports. The two that you need to swap out are pins 2 & 3. I recommend doing this before thrashing any further. I do not supect your computer is damaged, rather the pinouts or the software incompatability. Try that and see what happens. One other idea, if you have another machine. Hook the two together thru the serial ports and see if you can see what the Vector is sending out the port. ------------------------------ Date: 16 Mar 89 11:08 +0100 From: Mitchell Wyle Subject: Thanks! >From lavi!lavi.uucp!wyle Thu Mar 16 11:03:42 1989 remote from ethz Thanks to all of you for responding to my query about UNIX tools for LU files. Special thanks to Keith Petersen for sending me all the code!! The answer is: RTFAI (Read the *fine* archive indexes). Programs for LU extraction, crunching, uncrunching, squeezing, and un-squeezing are in the SIMTEL20 archives in pd2:. This board is filled with helpful, friendly people! Thanks again for all the replys! I hope to stop "leaching" and start contributing soon. -Mitch (wyle@inf.ethz.ch | wyle@ethz.uucp | uunet!mcvax!cernvax!ethz!wyle) ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest ****************************** 18-Mar-89 01:55:50-MST,1904;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Sat, 18 Mar 89 01:30:12 MST From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #69 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL INFO-CPM Digest Sat, 18 Mar 89 Volume 89 : Issue 69 Today's Topics: Thanks! Thanks!! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 16 Mar 89 10:05:21 GMT From: mcvax!cernvax!ethz!ethz-inf!wyle@uunet.uu.net (Mitchell Wyle) Subject: Thanks! Thanks to all of you for responding to my query about UNIX tools for LU files. Special thanks to Keith Petersen for sending me all the code!! The answer is: RTFAI (Read the *fine* archive indexes). Programs for LU extraction, crunching, uncrunching, squeezing, and un-squeezing are in the SIMTEL20 archives in pd2:. This board is filled with helpful, friendly people! Thanks again for all the replys! I hope to stop "leaching" and start contributing soon. -Mitch (wyle@inf.ethz.ch | wyle@ethz.uucp | uunet!mcvax!cernvax!ethz!wyle) -- -Mitchell F. Wyle wyle@ethz.uucp Institut fuer Informationssysteme wyle@inf.ethz.ch ETH Zentrum / 8092 Zurich, Switzerland +41 1 256 5237 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Mar 1989 05:07 EST From: Bruce Ide Subject: Thanks!! Many thanks to all the people who replied to my Vector postings. I strongly suspect that the pins are what is causing the problem, and will bum a nullmodem off a friend of mine in a few hours here. I also have access to an IBM PC and may try hooking my vector to it if this problem persists. Thanks again. ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest ****************************** 20-Mar-89 08:00:44-MST,3581;000000000000 Mail-From: KPETERSEN created at 20-Mar-89 07:52:46 Return-Path: Date: Mon, 20 Mar 89 07:52:45 MST From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #70 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL INFO-CPM Digest Mon, 20 Mar 89 Volume 89 : Issue 70 Today's Topics: P&T CP/M for Tandy Model II Simtel20 address change Small C ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 19 Mar 89 20:54:32 GMT From: amdahl!dlb!netcom!arg@ames.arc.nasa.gov (01) Subject: P&T CP/M for Tandy Model II I am trying to make a backup of a CP/M boot disk for a TRS-80 Model II micro, and seem to be having no luck. I no longer have the master disk, and there seems to be no program that will transfer the first two tracks of the diskette. (8", 600kb). I have made one backup with the program DU.COM, but it no longer seems to work. Any and all help would be greatly apprecieated, as this system is running a BBS on the only CP/M system disk I have.... +------------------------------------+----------------------------------+ | Greg Argendeli | San Jose Access System (public) | | Technical Resource Coordinator | 1+ (408) 267-7926 (1200 8,n,1) | | National University, San Jose, CA | 24 Hours | | Path(s): netcom!arg +----------------------------------+ | netcom!nusjarg!arg | Home of the Epicenter! | | netcom!nusjarg!nusjecs!arg|----------------------------------+ | nusedcs!nusjecs!arg (At least ONE should work...) + +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 1989 07:42 MST From: Keith Petersen Subject: Simtel20 address change Sometime between 1200 and 2000 Eastern Standard Time, today (Monday March 20, 1989), the host IP address of WSMR-Simtel20.Army.Mil will change from 26.0.0.74 to 26.2.0.74. This may or may not affect your connectivity to Simtel20, depending on whether your host uses a host table or a domain server. Our new address will appear in the domain database at the time of the changeover. It will also appear in the next NIC host table that is issued. The symptom you will see if your host uses a host table that has not been updated is "Connection refused". If this happens you may still be able to connect by using our new 26.2.0.74 address instead of our host name when you request FTP to open the connection. --Keith Petersen Maintainer of the CP/M & MSDOS archives at wsmr-simtel20.army.mil [26.2.0.74] DDN: w8sdz@wsmr-simtel20.army.mil Uucp: {ames,decwrl,harvard,rutgers,ucbvax,uunet}!wsmr-simtel20.army.mil!w8sdz ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 89 11:16:55 GMT From: Paul Clayson Subject: Small C Does anybody use Small C? I'm using the CP/M version available from the Simtel20 PD archives. Does anybody have any information on what is/is not available in small C, as I cannot get it to compile multidimentional arrays, DO-WHILE, FOR or SWITCH-CASE. Are these not available or do I need to know more on how to use them in Small C? Thanks to anyone who can help, Paul ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest ****************************** 23-Mar-89 01:48:08-MST,8255;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Thu, 23 Mar 89 01:30:07 MST From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #71 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL INFO-CPM Digest Thu, 23 Mar 89 Volume 89 : Issue 71 Today's Topics: P&T CP/M for Tandy Model II Serial card help Small C Unix utilities for LBR manipulation Vector 4 Modem problems: The saga continues ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 21 Mar 89 04:01:03 GMT From: xanth!rlb@ames.arc.nasa.gov (Robert Lee Bailey) Subject: P&T CP/M for Tandy Model II In article <23@netcom.UUCP> arg@netcom.UUCP (01) writes: >I am trying to make a backup of a CP/M boot disk for a TRS-80 Model II >micro, and seem to be having no luck. I no longer have the master >disk, and there seems to be no program that will transfer the first two >tracks of the diskette. (8", 600kb). I have made one backup with the >program DU.COM, but it no longer seems to work. Any and all help would >be greatly apprecieated, as this system is running a BBS on the only >CP/M system disk I have.... > In order to transfer the system tracks (and make a disk bootable), you need to run your SYSGEN program. This program is hardware specific to each machine, and will copy the first two (or whatever is required) tracks from a bootable disk to another new (or non-system) disk. The program will vary slightly from machine to machine, but it goes something like this: A>SYSGEN SYSGEN Version n.n Source drive name: A Dest. drive name: B (or A if you only have one drive) Be sure to write protect the original disk (remove the write enable tab). When you enter the source drive name, the program will read the system boot track(s) into memory. When it has finished, it will prompt you for the destination drive. If you only have 1 drive, remove the original and insert the disk you want to copy to. THEN AND ONLY THEN, enter the destination drive name. Hope this helps. Bob Bailey ------------------------------ Date: 22 Mar 89 02:09:58 GMT From: paravia@csd4.milw.wisc.edu (Mark David Kakatsch) Subject: Serial card help Is anyone here familiar with the Jade S-100 serial/parallel card? I've just fixed my brand new S-100 system after 2 months of work, and I've managed to get everything working; except the serial card. This is VERY frustrating, seeing as when I boot my system, I see CPM v. 1.4 etc... on my video screen, and I can't do anything else except stare at it because I can't type anything! I have no idea what the problem is, I've detected pulses at the serial input whenever I press a key; however, the DATA AVAILABLE line stays high, and RECIEVE DATA AVAILABLE' won't go low to reset DAV...Another thing is, I wrote a simple test program to output a stream of A's to the port, along with the control port data. Because I used a simple loop(I'm not too famailiar w/ Z80 m/l.), the control data is continuously outputted to the port. However, I can't detect a pulse on CONTROL STROBE', meaning that it is not getting the data. The only cause that I can think of is that I have the port address set wrong. However, I've checked, double checked, and rechecked the port switches, and they are set right. If anyone can help me on this, I will TRULY appreciate it. It's very frustrating to get 10 S-100 cards working, and be stuck on one little serial card... Mark +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + Things are not what |Albert Einstein got his name after he got smashed + + they appear to be... |after drinking one stien of beer. Hence; Albert + +________________________|EinStein.___________________________________________+ + Ack! Ack! Ack! Ack! Ack! |Mark D. Kakatsch --> paravia@csd4.milw.wisc.edu + + Pfhtph! Pfhtpph! Pfhtpf! | uwmcsd1!uwmcsd4!paravia + +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ Date: 20 Mar 89 19:38:34 GMT From: eve.usc.edu!mlinar@oberon.usc.edu (Mitch Mlinar) Subject: Small C In article <8903201146.AA00867@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> PC3@IB.RL.AC.UK (Paul Clayson) writes: >Does anybody use Small C? I'm using the CP/M version available from >the Simtel20 PD archives. Does anybody have any information on what >is/is not available in small C, as I cannot get it to compile >multidimentional arrays, DO-WHILE, FOR or SWITCH-CASE. Are these >not available or do I need to know more on how to use them in Small C? Yep, the documentation is quite clear in what it has as well as what it is missing. Items *NOT* supported in SmallC v1.2 are: - for - do/while - switch/case/default - multiple dimension arrays - goto - float (although it does support double) - structures - unions - multiple indirections (two or more * such as **i) - assignment operators (+= -= *= etc.) - storage classes - precompiler stuff other than #define/#include/#asm/#endasm - declaring a function AND its function type in the same line (e.g. double foo(i) int i; /* will not work */) - probably other things too For a free compiler and a learning tool (you get the source code), it is pretty decent. -Mitch ------------------------------ Date: 22 Mar 89 07:12:19 GMT From: xanth!nic.MR.NET!hal!ncoast!mikes@g.ms.uky.edu (Mike Squires) Subject: Unix utilities for LBR manipulation In article <8903141516.AA24632@lavi.uucp> wyle@lavi.UUCP (Mitchell Wyle) writes: >>From lavi!lavi.uucp!wyle Tue Mar 14 16:16:10 1989 remote from ethz > > >Are there utilities like _nulu_ for extracting files from .LBR archives >which run on UNIX(tm)? I use "lar.c". I have no idea where the source came from at this point but could probably find it on backups if someone is desperate. Snd requests to "sir-alan!mikes@uunet.uu.net". There is also a utility for reading 8" SSSD CP/M format diskettes on a UNIX system that has an 8" floppy (DEC, Tandy 6000, etc.). I have used it on a RS 6000 and it worked fine. The version I have is called "ucpm" but there is also something called "cpm" from the BSD distribution. Mike Squires Allegheny College Meadville, PA 16335 814 332 3347 uucp: ..!cwjcc!ncoast!{mikes,peng!sir-alan!mikes} or ..!pitt!sir-alan!mikes BITNET: mikes%sir-alan@pitt.UUCP (VAX) MIKES AT SIR-ALAN!PITT.UUCP (IBM) Internet: sir-alan!mikes@vax.cs.pittsburgh.edu or mikes@NCoast.ORG ------------------------------ Date: 22 Mar 89 09:29:50 GMT From: mcvax!kth!draken!tut!hydra!hylka!jlaiho@uunet.uu.net (Trucker) Subject: Vector 4 Modem problems: The saga continues In article <8903152308.AA08503@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU>, xd2w@VM.CC.PURDUE.EDU (Bruce Ide) writes: [Some lines deleted] > mdm700 too). A consultant here thinks maybe my RS232 read/send pins are > in the wrong order. Could this be causing my problem? I know the modem > works because I tested it on an IBM PC. I have three hypotheses right > now: 1) My computer was damaged in the mail, 2) Got the wrong port or > software, 3) The RS232 pins are in the wrong order. Now, if my computer > was damaged, the self test that it goes through before booting should > tell me. Would either of the other two be causing my problem? About the serial ports in Vector 4: Serial printer port and serial comm. port are made of exactly the same hardware, only the pins 2 and 3 (xmit and receive) are in different order. So, in order to use a modem via the serial printer port you must make a cable (or adapter) with wires 2 and 3 crossed. Then you must modificate your terminal program's port definitions (I hope you have the source!) so that instead of reading/writing via the serial comm. the terminal program reads&writes via the serial printer port. Juha Laiho jlaiho@cc.Helsinki.FI (The Internet) jlaiho@finuh.bitnet ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest ****************************** 24-Mar-89 01:47:15-MST,4081;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Fri, 24 Mar 89 01:30:12 MST From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #72 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL INFO-CPM Digest Fri, 24 Mar 89 Volume 89 : Issue 72 Today's Topics: Announcing a small Alspa Users' mailing list. HZ120 system disk needed Small C ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 23 Mar 89 03:59:37 GMT From: agate!saturn!ssyx.ucsc.edu!ulmo@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Brad Allen) Subject: Announcing a small Alspa Users' mailing list. Got an old Alspa you'd like to mumble about? I've got a new mailing list, unmoderated. Submission: alspa-users@ssyx.ucsc.edu Requests: alspa-users-request@ssyx.ucsc.edu Archive: anonymous ftp, ssyx.ucsc.edu: pub/archives/maillists/alspa-users So far there is only one message about why interrupts aren't easy (or impossible) to use. Brad Allen ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Mar 1989 01:28 MST From: Keith Petersen Subject: HZ120 system disk needed Help would be appreciated. Reply through me, please. I will forward. --Keith Petersen Maintainer of the CP/M & MSDOS archives at wsmr-simtel20.army.mil [26.2.0.74] Internet: w8sdz@wsmr-simtel20.army.mil Uucp: {ames,decwrl,harvard,rutgers,ucbvax,uunet}!wsmr-simtel20.army.mil!w8sdz --- Forwarded from the National CP/M RoundTable on GEnie: ------------ Category 6, Topic 6 Message 1 Sun Mar 19, 1989 AVRT at 21:56 EST I have a 192 K HZ120 with a single intermittent 5.25" and two very workable 1 meg 8" drives. The unit has been in storage for some time, seems to work, but is fairly useless without the CPM floppies it usedta have. I also don't have any useable version of MSDos for it. Is there anything I can get, preferably but not absolutely on 8" SD floppies? I'd like to put the old dog back to work, give it to a friend or something but it might as well be an outboard motor sans O.S. Roy ------------------------------ Date: 23 Mar 89 01:17:47 GMT From: astroatc!nicmad!madnix!rat@speedy.wisc.edu (David Douthitt) Subject: Small C In article <15990@oberon.USC.EDU> mlinar@eve.usc.edu (Mitch Mlinar) writes: | | Yep, the documentation is quite clear in what it has as well as what it | is missing. Items *NOT* supported in SmallC v1.2 are: | | - for | - do/while | - switch/case/default | - multiple dimension arrays | - goto | - float (although it does support double) | - structures | - unions | - multiple indirections (two or more * such as **i) | - assignment operators (+= -= *= etc.) | - storage classes | - precompiler stuff other than #define/#include/#asm/#endasm | - declaring a function AND its function type in the same line | (e.g. double foo(i) int i; /* will not work */) | - probably other things too | | For a free compiler and a learning tool (you get the source code), it | is pretty decent. The current version of Small C is AT LEAST 2.1 - and it DOES support: - for - do/while - switch/case/default - goto - assignment operators (+= -= *= etc.) - precompiler stuff including: #define #include #ifdef #ifndef #else #endif #asm #endasm - int foo(i) int i; /* DOES work - or should */ Version 2.1 is a considerably better version than 1.x - I'm surprised there are any 1x implementations anywere. [david] -- ======== David Douthitt :::: Madison, WI :::: The Stainless Steel Rat ======== FidoNet: 1:121/2 ::::: WittiNet: "Curiouser and curiouser, said Alice." :::::: UseNet: ...{rutgers|ucbvax|harvard}!uwvax!astroatc!nicmad!madnix!rat ArpaNet: madnix!rat@cs.wisc.edu {decvax|att}! ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest ****************************** 26-Mar-89 01:44:50-MST,6150;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Sun, 26 Mar 89 01:30:18 MST From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #73 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL INFO-CPM Digest Sun, 26 Mar 89 Volume 89 : Issue 73 Today's Topics: 1989 Trenton Computer Festival information ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 26 Mar 1989 00:04 MST From: Keith Petersen Subject: 1989 Trenton Computer Festival information The following is from a file uploaded to my BBS. I am NOT the author. It is presented here "as-is" for its informational value. --Keith Petersen ---cut-here--- 14TH ANNUAL TRENTON COMPUTER FESTIVAL '89 Fourteen Years in the Vanguard of Computer Expos! o April 22, 1989 - Saturday 9:00 AM - 6:00 PM o April 23, 1989 - Sunday 10:00 AM - 4:00 PM ================================================================ o The original personal computer show now celebrating its fourteenth anniversary at Trenton State College. o Special Conferences: Public Domain Software, Packet Radio, Business Applications, Computer Music and Art, Desktop Publishing. o Computers in Education and Technology with applications for handicapped children and adults. o User Group Meetings: MS/PC-DOS, Apple, Macintosh, Tandy/TRS, Commodore, Amiga, Heath/Zenith, Atari, CP/M, SIG/M, 680xx, Forth, Pascal and UNIX. o Free classes for the general public and novices. o Computer Games Contest - with prizes! o Software Demonstrations o Outdoor Flea Market - software/hardware accessories, surplus computer gear, more than five acres of bargains! o Exhibits, lectures, and promotions conveniently located on the TSC campus. o Forums, talks, and seminars held both Saturday and Sunday. Meet the leading experts and attend sessions on latest technical advances in software/hardware. Artificial Intelligence/expert systems, business applications, robotics, music, graphics, computer-aided design, ham radio, and new languages. o Computer Graphics Theater o Bill Gates will speak on the future of computing. o Much, much more! FLEA MARKET SPOT ---------------- (available through advance sale by mail only) $30.00 per parking lot space for the first 2 spaces. Additional spaces are $60.00 per space. Each order includes one admission for both days. The flea market is held rain or shine. All spots are sold in advance. No electricity or tables will be available. For more information call: 215-387-4614 215-387-4635 (bulletin board) Send for more information. Reservations MUST be reserved between January 1st and March 15th. ADMISSION/REGISTRATION ---------------------- General admission will be at the door only. General admission fee, covering both days and all events except the banquet, is $7.00: students and senior citizens $3.00; preschool children are admitted free. Sunday only - $5.00 general admission, students and senior citizens, $3.00. Children under 12, accompanied by an adult, will be admitted free on Sunday. Saturday Evening Banquet - Register in advance by sending a check for $15.00 per person, made payable to TCF '89 to the address below. FREE parking will be available with expanded shuttle bus service for overflow parking. Please follow posed signs to off-site parking. FOR GENERAL INFORMATION ----------------------- Call: 201-549-7538 or write to: TCF '89 Trenton State College Hillwood Lakes, CN4700 Trenton, NJ 08650-4700 SPONSORED BY TRENTON STATE COLLEGE AND: --------------------------------------- Amateur Computer Group of New Jersey Trenton State College Computer Central Jersey Computer Club Institute of Electrical and Electronic Engineers (IEEE) and Association for Computing Machinery, Princeton Section Philadelphia Heath Users Group DIRECTIONS TO THE CAMPUS ------------------------ Automobile: The college is most easily reached by automobile. Trailblazers at key intersections near the college will help directions. From Newark and North Jersey: Persons coming from North Jersey using the New Jersey Turnpike should exit at New Brunswick (Exit 9). Take route 18N to Route 1: then follow Route 1 South. Leave Route 1 at I-295 and travel south (toward Pennsylvania). * Take exit 4, Pennington Road South. Continue on Pennington Road (Route 31) south through the traffic light (at Ewingville Road intersection) to the college. The college is on the left about From Pennsylvania: Follow I-95 North and cross the Scudders Falls Bridge to Route 31 (Pennington Road) Exit 4A. Follow from * above. From Asbury Park-Freehold area: Take Route 33 West to Higthstown. Continue to light at Stockton St. (Route 571W). Turn right (toward Princeton) and proceed to Route 1 South; leave Route 1 at I-95 to 95 and travel South toward Pennsylvania. Follow from * above. From Northwest New Jersey: Follow Route 202 until it intersects Route 31 at Flemington. Continue along Route 31 (Pennington Road) until you reach the college. This is about .4 mile past the traffic light at Ewingville. From South Jersey: Take I-95 North to last exit on Route 130/Bordentown. Follow Route 130 North to Route 206 North toward Trenton and New York. Heading north on 206, take I-295 North (toward Princeton/Pennsylvania). Follow from * above. Parking: Additional parking will be available at N. J. Department of Transportation at the intersection of Parkway Avenue and Lower Ferry Road. Shuttle bus will run all day Saturday and Sunday. Transcribed from handout for BBS distrib. courtesy: Drexel Hill N* Z-Node #6 Sysops: Bob Dean and Gene Nolan 215-623-4040 24/12/3 PCP Access (not resp. for inaccuracy). ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest ****************************** 28-Mar-89 01:51:09-MST,3877;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Tue, 28 Mar 89 01:30:15 MST From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #74 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL INFO-CPM Digest Tue, 28 Mar 89 Volume 89 : Issue 74 Today's Topics: An old Vector/3 Machine -- any idea what to do with it? Formatting problem Kaypro 4 for sale ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 27 Mar 89 18:40:32 GMT From: phoenix!caromero@princeton.edu (C. Antonio Romero) Subject: An old Vector/3 Machine -- any idea what to do with it? My dad's business is planning to get rid of an old Vector 3 CP/M system which, I think, had some sort of Micropolis drives on it. Anyone out there know what this might be worth if we tried to sell it, or know of a charity or someone who we might consider donating it to, somewhere in the New York area? Also, does anyone know possible sources of software for a machine this old? (It might be nice to provide this information to whoever winds up with the machine, so they don't feel they're completely without recourse...) -Antonio Romero romero@confidence.princeton.edu ------------------------------ Date: 27 Mar 89 16:44:29 GMT From: paravia@csd4.milw.wisc.edu (Mark David Kakatsch) Subject: Formatting problem Hello. Well, after about two months of work, I FINALLY managed to get my S-100 system up and running. It's an Ithaca Audio CPU w/ a Tarbell single density disk controller. The system works pretty well, I was able to load up almost all of the disks that I got w/ the system. However, the format program won't work. I've recompiled it twice from the original source code, and all it does is move the head to track 0 and go in a HLT condition. Is it possible that there is something wrong w/ the drive? It can't be the program, as it was used by the previous owner many times, and gave him no problems... Any ideas? Mark +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + Things are not what |Albert Einstein got his name after he got smashed + + they appear to be... |after drinking one stien of beer. Hence; Albert + +________________________|EinStein.___________________________________________+ + Ack! Ack! Ack! Ack! Ack! |Mark D. Kakatsch --> paravia@csd4.milw.wisc.edu + + Pfhtph! Pfhtpph! Pfhtpf! | uwmcsd1!uwmcsd4!paravia + +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ Date: 28 Mar 89 05:21:26 GMT From: cs.utexas.edu!ut-emx!chcu321@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu (Michael J. Liebman) Subject: Kaypro 4 for sale What a bargain!! :-) A genuine Kaypro 4: - CP/M - Z-80 cpu - also an 8088 cpu - a _whopping_ 64K :-) - excellent condition Not available in any store! But wait, that's not all: Okidata Microline 92 printer And as if that's not enough, oodles of software (list by request)!! Make me an offer (any offer). But you'd better hurry, supplies are limited! :-) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael J. Liebman INTERNET: Dept. of Chemical Engineering mjl@cheme1.che.utexas.edu (128.83.162.2) University of Texas at Austin chcu321@emx.cc.utexas.edu (128.83.1.33) BITNET: liebman@UTAIVC (512) 471-5150.ma.bell ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest ****************************** 29-Mar-89 01:48:45-MST,1858;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Wed, 29 Mar 89 01:30:57 MST From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #75 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL INFO-CPM Digest Wed, 29 Mar 89 Volume 89 : Issue 75 Today's Topics: Unarchive programs (2 msgs) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 27 Mar 89 16:55:24 GMT From: att!mtuxo!mtgzz!drutx!rlm@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (MesenbrinkRL) Subject: Unarchive programs . I got a archive file containing data files from a BBS. The file is archived, but cannot be unarc'd with unarc16. Evidently, it uses the "squash" technique, which unarc16 does not handle for CP/M. The files are normally used for MSDOS and I've successfully unarc'd them using "PKXARC" on MSDOS and transfered them to my computer. Does anyone know of a CP/M program that will handle this format of archive? Or have I finally found a reason for moving to MSDOS? Any help will be appreciated. Thanks. Bob Mesenbrink Denver, Colorado ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Mar 1989 12:14 MST From: Keith Petersen Subject: Unarchive programs Bob, are you really sure you have UNARC 1.6? It DOES handle squashed (PKWare) members. If you're talking about ARCs made by NoGate Consulting's PAK program which makes "crushed" members then you are right. UNARC 1.6 will not handle those. --Keith Petersen Maintainer of the CP/M & MSDOS archives at wsmr-simtel20.army.mil [26.2.0.74] Internet: w8sdz@wsmr-simtel20.army.mil Uucp: {ames,decwrl,harvard,rutgers,ucbvax,uunet}!wsmr-simtel20.army.mil!w8sdz ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest ****************************** 30-Mar-89 02:02:43-MST,5981;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Thu, 30 Mar 89 01:30:18 MST From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #76 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL INFO-CPM Digest Thu, 30 Mar 89 Volume 89 : Issue 76 Today's Topics: Backing up P&T CP/M CCS 2066 card Redialing Phones Unarchive programs ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 29 Mar 89 21:55:39 -0600 From: mknox@emx.utexas.edu (Margaret H. Knox) Subject: Backing up P&T CP/M For Greg Argendeli who is having trouble backing up his P&T CP/M boot disk: Greg, if you are using versin 2.2E (or even older) you may have a problem. Version 2.2E had copy protection on the boot disk -- you could make as many boot disks as you wanted, but they all had to be made from the MASTER diskette. Older 2.2a-d version had a SYSGEN utility which had to be run in order to move the boot tracks (which are single density, partly!). If you have a current version (2.2m or 2.2mH) then just run CLONE and follow the questions. If not, you probably should consider getting upgraded. The upgrade for you (since you already have the system) would only be $45 plus $3.50 shipping. If interested (and I hate to sound commercial here, but this IS the answer to your question) send a note to: TriSoft 1825 East 38 1/2 Austin, Texas 78722 (512) 472-0744 Be SURE to give your OLD P&T serial number, and if you want 2.2m (floppy only) or 2.2mH (floppy plus hard disk). - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - I *do* have a relationship to TriSoft, but will not get rich off of a $45 transaction. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Mar 89 21:58:07 -0600 From: mknox@emx.utexas.edu (Margaret H. Knox) Subject: CCS 2066 card Bill, send me a mail address (U.S. Postal). I think I have a copy of the manual somewhere around here. Be glad to send you a copy. ------------------------------ Date: Tue 29 Mar 1989 12:07:14 EDT From: Subject: Redialing Phones Martin Olivera asked about phones that automatically redial a busy number. One of the most famous of these is the Demon Dialer from Zoom Telephonics in Boston. It does much more than redial; it is a complete phone enhancement system. It is installed in series with the incoming phone line and thus gives its capabilities to all telephones in the house or office. It serves as a repertory dialer (allows numbers to be associated with abbreviated strings, such as #MOM to call home), it will rapidly retry a busy number, and it will at intervals retry a number that does not answer. One factor you should consider is whether the telephone has busy TONE detection. I have what is otherwise a very nice telephone, the AP2002 that you see in the DAK catalogs. It is the best speakerphone I have ever heard, has a full typewriter keyboard, stores hundreds of numbers under alpha codes, and will automatically redial a busy number. However, it only knows a number is busy by inferring that from its not answering after some thirty seconds. The smart modems, of course, can detect the busy tone and disconnect immediately. Listening to the busy signal for thirty seconds every minute can get rather annoying. It would also be nice if the phone would supply a local ring signal to alert you when the call does go through. The Zoom Demon Dialer may have these features, but I am not sure. Here is the address and phone number of Zoom as I got it from the phone book: Zoom Telephonics 617-423-1072 (general) 207 South Street 617-423-1076 (tech support) Boston, MA They are coming out in the next several months with an even more spectacular product. It will be a complete telephone subsystem that can be controlled from your personal computer. Demon dialing is only a small part of its capabilities. It can handle two incoming central- office lines and four local lines, which might be connected to voice telephones, modems, fax machines, and so on. It does its own touch-tone decoding and voice synthesis. Here is a scenario. A call comes in on line one. A synthesized message asks you to press key 1 for the fax, 2 for the modem, 3 for voice. Suppose you ask for the modem. It can then request that you key in a password before it will connect you to the modem. Or, wherever caller identification service is available from the phone company, it will check the phone number of the CALLING party and act accordingly. This is where your personal computer comes in. There are many interesting possibilities here! I have no connection with Zoom except as someone fascinated by their products. Though I always yearned for a demon dialer, I never did buy one. However, this new gadget, I suspect, will be beyond my powers to resist! -- Jay Sage ------------------------------ Date: 29 Mar 89 04:24:42 GMT From: portal!cup.portal.com!Mike_W_Ryan@uunet.uu.net Subject: Unarchive programs . > > >I got a archive file containing data files from a BBS. The file is >archived................a I had a similar experience.... The version of UNARC16 I had was 1.2 jun86. Through Simtel and some BBS's I got two newer versions: 1.42 jan87 1.6 march 87 So far I've had better luck with these, but only with ARC's generated by the SEA ARC program. I have my doubts about the now defunct PKARC. If you want these files, let me know Mike_W_Ryan@cup.portal.com ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest ****************************** 31-Mar-89 01:57:14-MST,2997;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Fri, 31 Mar 89 01:30:40 MST From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #77 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL INFO-CPM Digest Fri, 31 Mar 89 Volume 89 : Issue 77 Today's Topics: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #76 (2 msgs) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 30 Mar 89 06:48:25 EST From: John C Klensin Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #76 > > Martin Olivera asked about phones that automatically redial a busy >number. One of the most famous of these is the Demon Dialer from Zoom >Telephonics in Boston. It does much more than redial; it is a complete >phone enhancement system. It is installed in series with the incoming >... > One factor you should consider is whether the telephone has busy TONE >detection. .... It would also be nice if the phone would supply a local >ring signal to alert you when the call does go through. The Zoom Demon >Dialer may have these features, but I am not sure. Have had one for years. It has all of these features, and works well. When it is in a 'continuous retry busy' or 'continuous retry no answer' mode, it essentially owns the line, since the telephone from which you have activated it must be off-hook. So, it announces with a loud beep tone through the receiver (if you tell it that the instrument is a speakerphone) or nothing (if you tell it that you are holding on to the receiver) when either it manages to make a connection or a new incoming call comes in. Also does nice things with long distance numbers, dialing codes, etc. No affiliation, just a happy user who considers this one of those nice devices that provides a lot of capabilities and is completely unintrusive (it lives in the closet, does not dictate what it have on my desk, and the fact that it provides the same features, and the same abbreviated number list, to all phones simultaneously is much nicer than going around and reprogramming a number of devices). The one I've got is tone-line and tone-phone-activated only. They also have or had a pulse version, which I gather is a bit less capable. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Mar 89 22:26 EST From: Lewallen@DOCKMASTER.ARPA Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #76 Reference Demon dialer discussion - my father acquired a demon dialer, which is an impressive device, as Jay said (guess ll still does not talk to dockmaster, eh). HOWEVER, it had a very short lifespan. It was sent back to factory twice for repairs, and then my dad gave up on it. I don't know if voltage surges or line noise or what got to it, but it did not seem to stay up very long. Hope their new device is more reliable. ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest ******************************