3-Jun-90 00:49:44-MDT,4926;000000000000 Mail-From: KPETERSEN created at 3-Jun-90 00:39:30 Return-Path: Date: Sun, 3 Jun 90 00:39:29 MDT From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V90 #95 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Message-ID: <900603003930.V90N95@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> INFO-CPM Digest Sun, 3 Jun 90 Volume 90 : Issue 95 Today's Topics: CP/M Emulator on UNIX floppy drive hardware Kaypro II boot disk needed Xerox 820... upgrade to DS/DD Z-System for DEC Rainbow ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 1 Jun 90 06:52:18 GMT From: zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!snorkelwacker!spdcc!merk!alliant!linus!nixbur!nixpbe!peun33!kebsch@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu (Kebsch) Subject: CP/M Emulator on UNIX Message-ID: Hi folks, ther was an anouncement about a new CP/M Emulator running on UNIX some weeks ago. Is it available now? Waldemar PS: For a reply, please use one of the next addresses. Thanks! -- [ Waldemar Kebsch, Nixdorf Computer AG, Dep.: PSD-C-61, Pontanusstrasse 55, ] [ 4790 Paderborn, Federal Republic of Germany, Tel.: [nat]-5251-14-6129 ] [ Usenet: (USA) kebsch.pad@nixbur.uucp, kebsch.pad@nixntc.uucp ] [ Eunet: kebsch.pad@nixpbe.uucp, X.400: kebsch@pad.nixdorf.dbp.de ] ------------------------------ Date: 29 May 90 20:50:10 GMT From: pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sdd.hp.com!cs.utexas.edu!hellgate.utah.edu!cc.utah.edu!cc.usu.edu!slsw2@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu (Roger Ivie) Subject: floppy drive hardware Message-ID: <25083@cc.usu.edu> In article <5715@balu.UUCP>, tilmann@cosmo.UUCP (Tilmann Reh) writes: > > Independent of the previous: please show me a member of the x79x family > with the whole floppy interface (as mentioned earlier) on a SINGLE CHIP ! > Just fits in the gap between CPU and FDD. No glue logic, no clocks, no PLL, > even no drivers! Of course, the only reason you can get 765s like that is because IBM used the 765. Noone wants to build new x79x chips anymore, since they would be incompatible with the IBM market. -- =============================================================================== Roger Ivie 35 S 300 W Logan, Ut. 84321 (801) 752-8633 =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: 2 Jun 90 17:12:03 GMT From: fernwood!portal!cup.portal.com!Azog-Thoth@uunet.uu.net (William Thomas Daugustine) Subject: Kaypro II boot disk needed Message-ID: <30457@cup.portal.com> Im in need of a boot disk for a Kaypro II. This is the II, not the 2 model, with SSDD drives. Billy D'Augustine Azog-Thoth@cup.portal.com ------------------------------ Date: 30 May 90 14:48:44 GMT From: sdd.hp.com!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!samsung!cs.utexas.edu!texbell!ficc!peter@ucsd.edu (Peter da Silva) Subject: Xerox 820... upgrade to DS/DD Message-ID: In article <9005251653.AA11312@lll-lcc.llnl.gov> rzh@LLL-LCC.LLNL.GOV (Roger Hanscom) writes: > Unfortunately, Peter, the 820 is based on the WD 1771 controller which is > SD *only*. Funny. I'm already running DD/SS. This is an 820-II. -- `-_-' Peter da Silva. +1 713 274 5180. 'U` Have you hugged your wolf today? @FIN Dirty words: Zhghnyyl erphefvir vayvar shapgvbaf. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 May 90 07:55 EDT From: GOODWIN%SMCVAX.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu Subject: Z-System for DEC Rainbow Does anyone know if the Z-system can be run on a DEC Rainbow? It's a CP/M capable machine, but I'd like to hear if anyone has already done this, since the machine is rather nonstandard in lots of ways! Thanx for any info... ========================================================================== Dave Goodwin | Coordinator, PC Support/User Services | To err is human. VAX System Manager | To really foul things up, ----------------------------------------------| You need a computer. BitNet/CREN : Goodwin@Smcvax | Ma Bell : (802)655-2000 X2220 | Pony Express: Saint Michael's College | -Who Knows? Department of Computer Services | Winooski Park | Colchester, VT 05439 | Ham Radio : KA1VLJ/AG | ========================================================================== ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V90 Issue #95 ************************************ 7-Jun-90 05:44:07-MDT,4153;000000000000 Mail-From: KPETERSEN created at 7-Jun-90 05:36:20 Return-Path: Date: Thu, 7 Jun 90 05:36:20 MDT From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V90 #96 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Message-ID: <900607053620.V90N96@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> INFO-CPM Digest Thu, 7 Jun 90 Volume 90 : Issue 96 Today's Topics: Daisy Chaining XEROX 820-2 Drives More about Televideo 803 timestamps updating ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 04 Jun 90 12:42:57 CST From: Steve Westlund Subject: Daisy Chaining XEROX 820-2 Drives Message-ID: <9006041822.AA15335@wugate.wustl.edu> Help! I would like to daisy chain an 8-inch floppy drive unit to the 8-inch rigid drive connected to my XEROX 820-2. I know where the floppy drive cable has to be plugged into the back of the rigid drive unit. However, my XEROX manuals indicate that both the floppy drive and rigid drive units must be internally modified in order for this to work. Can anyone out there please explain to me what I have to do internally to both disk drive units in order to daisy chain them? As long as I am at it, there is one more question. A XEROX 820-2 with two floppy drives comes with a baby board which serves as the floppy disk controller. An 820-2 with a rigid drive unit has a different baby board used to interface with the floppy and rigid disk controller located inside the rigid drive assembly. Can I modify a XEROX 820-2 to work with another type of drive by simply swapping the baby boards, or is there more to it? Thanks for any information you can provide, Steve Westlund Information Systems Washington University St. Louis, Missouri ------------------------------ Date: 4 Jun 90 21:26:39 GMT From: sk1v+@andrew.cmu.edu (Susan Alane Keim) Subject: More about Televideo 803 Message-ID: First- Huge thanks to all of you who are willing to help me and my Dad get this darmblasted machine to actually be of some use(no offense to all of you CP/Mers, but I am used to Macs and Unix -- this is evil!). I have gotten back to some of you and will still be calling on the help of others. Next- I was home again this weekend and the printing (which worked last weekend) has suddenly decided that it doesn't want to work. The "test" function still works off-line, so it isn't the printer (which is a little mannesman thingy). I tried to print using TeleWrite and TWP with many different text files on several different disks. It always goes about half way through the print cysle and then it freezes. Only a reboot seems to help here. Can someone give me an idea of what to check for (the physical connections seem to be fine)? I really don't know anything about this and my Dad knows a lot less. He and I would greatly appreciate it if someone could tell me what kind of problem this sounds like. Thanks in advance! -Susie Keim ------------------------------ Date: 5 Jun 90 23:35:00 GMT From: news-server.csri.toronto.edu!helios.physics.utoronto.ca!ists!yunexus!geac!torsqnt!tmsoft!masnet!canremote!larry.moore@rutgers.edu (LARRY MOORE) Subject: timestamps updating Message-ID: <48aeef553d78266c5dc4@canremote.uucp> I've run across something puzzling and perhaps someone could explain it to me? I'm using David Goodenough's UUCP21 under CP/M Plus (a Morrow Decision's 11) - the collected messages (the .MAI files) are added to when new uucp packets come in, no problem; the problem is that somehow the access timestamp isn't changed even though the file is altered. Are CP/M+ timestamps not changed for random read/write BDOS calls, just for sequential read/write BDOS calls or it there another explanation? Thanks, larry moore --- * Via ProDoor 3.1R ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V90 Issue #96 ************************************ 9-Jun-90 09:40:50-MDT,4094;000000000000 Mail-From: KPETERSEN created at 9-Jun-90 09:24:21 Return-Path: Date: Sat, 9 Jun 90 09:24:21 MDT From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V90 #97 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Message-ID: <900609092421.V90N97@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> INFO-CPM Digest Sat, 9 Jun 90 Volume 90 : Issue 97 Today's Topics: Apple II CP/M Programs C/NIX under CP/M Daisy Chaining XEROX 820-2 Drives UZI Unix for CP/M ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 7 Jun 90 22:12:23 GMT From: sdd.hp.com!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!dali.cs.montana.edu!milton!blake!scalawag@ucsd.edu (Keith Frederick) Subject: Apple II CP/M Programs Message-ID: <7260@blake.acs.washington.edu> Does anyone have a list of sites that have CP/M programs that are known to run under an Apple II running CP/M ? OR maybe a BBS that supports CP/M for the Apple II ? Thanks. Keith R. Frederick / scalawag@blake.acs.washington.edu / CIS:73760,3521 ------------------------------ Date: 7 Jun 90 08:52:26 GMT From: eru!luth!sunic!mcsun!hp4nl!tnosoes!joep@bloom-beacon.mit.edu (Joep Mathijssen) Subject: C/NIX under CP/M Message-ID: <1186@tnosoes.izf.tno.nl> I just read an article (4 years old) about C/NIX (Unix for CP/M80). I wonder if somebody has experiences with this package and knows where to get it (preferred within Europe). Maybe anybody uses some other type of UNIX-emulator under CP/M. Let me know!! Joep, PS: still looking for PD-communication software!! =============================================================================== Joep Mathijssen TNO Institute for Perception Phone : +31 34 63 562 11 P.O. Box 23 Fax : +31 34 63 539 77 3769 ZG Soesterberg E-mail: tnosoes!joep@hp4nl.nluug.nl The Netherlands or: uunet!hp4nl.nluug.nl!tnosoes!joep =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: 8 Jun 90 10:06:09 PDT (Friday) From: Sprague.WBST311@Xerox.COM Subject: Daisy Chaining XEROX 820-2 Drives Message-ID: <900608-100733-3304@Xerox> For some reason, I could not send directly to Steve Westlund, so I am sending this reply to the whole group. > I would like to daisy chain an 8-inch floppy drive unit to the > 8-inch rigid drive connected to my XEROX 820-2. I too have wondered how to do that, but do not know how to do it (yet). It is not addressed in the Xerox 820 Technical Reference manual at all. I will forward your message on to the 820 Users Group dl here at Xerox. There are some new members, and maybe one of them knows. Send me your Email address. > Can I modify a XEROX 820-2 to work with another type of drive by simply > swapping the baby boards, or is there more to it? As to the 820-II daughter boards, I am not sure what your getting at, but there is one daughter for the rigid drive, and one for 8"/5" floppy disk drives. Swapping back in forth is as simple as plugging them in and attaching the correct drive. Just *DON'T* get them mixed up (Drive and card). You *WILL* blow the hard drive controller board inside the drive cabenet if you attach it to the Floppy controller daughter board, and they are damn near impossible to replace. If you need a floppy controller daughter board, let me know. ~ Mike (Sprague.Wbst311@Xerox.Com) ------------------------------ Date: 8 Jun 90 09:06:12 GMT From: amelia!prandtl.nas.nasa.gov!slayden@eos.arc.nasa.gov (James B. Slayden) Subject: UZI Unix for CP/M Message-ID: <6612@amelia.nas.nasa.gov> Is it possible that someone out there has UZI- the unix environment for the CP/M? Or do you have any information where I can get the specs, etc.. ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V90 Issue #97 ************************************ 11-Jun-90 14:22:24-MDT,9062;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Mon, 11 Jun 90 14:15:41 MDT From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V90 #98 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Message-ID: <900611141542.V90N98@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> INFO-CPM Digest Mon, 11 Jun 90 Volume 90 : Issue 98 Today's Topics: 0xF800 version of Disk Jockey II wanted Chess Game Wanted CP/M software source / some FDC notes CP/M text editors (2 msgs) Fast Z80? Kaypro II subscribing directly ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 10 Jun 90 20:14:30 GMT From: zephyr.ens.tek.com!orca.wv.tek.com!pogo!dont@uunet.uu.net (Dont Taylor) Subject: 0xF800 version of Disk Jockey II wanted Message-ID: <9206@pogo.WV.TEK.COM> I got an old S100 box running, just to let it blink the lights and run MuMath. It has a Disk Jockey 2D/B Rev 4 controller with eprom at 0xE000. MuMath is just crippled with this little ram. Can anyone supply the address decoding prom, labelled 3D or DJ2-3D, the eprom, labelled B/V2 E000 D987, or the modified cbios, all to run at 0xF800 instead? I can't justify paying much, I am embarrassed to admit what I paid for parts of the system over the years. I can promise the parts a good home and will keep it running. I would also consider "intersting" S100 boards with documentation/software and try get them running again. please reply by email thanks (de facto president of the CPM Users' Group NW) -- Don Taylor dont@pogo.WV.TEK.COM ...!tektronix!pogo.wv.tek.com!dont ------------------------------ Date: 11 Jun 90 04:36:46 GMT From: hub.ucsb.edu!ucsbuxa!6600raft@ucsd.edu (Michael Wise) Subject: Chess Game Wanted Message-ID: <5767@hub.ucsb.edu> Does anybody know if there is a public domain chess game out there? I'm not a very good player (rated at about 1200) so I don't need anything too killer. I've got Aztec 'C' and Microsoft BASIC installed on my system if it needs to be compiled. (I'm running CP/M 2.2 if it matters.) Thanks for the info! -- ========================================================================= | Internet: 6600raft@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu | All opinions stated are mine.| | BITNET: 6600raft@UCSBUXA.BITNET | **Save The Earth** | ========================================================================= ------------------------------ Date: 11 Jun 90 15:28:28 GMT From: zephyr.ens.tek.com!wrgate!dadla!donk@uunet.uu.net (Donald C. Kirkpatrick) Subject: CP/M software source / some FDC notes Message-ID: <2710@wrgate.WR.TEK.COM> Lately there have been a few requests for "where can I get ....." There is at least one company that still proudly proclaims "World's #1 CP/M Products Supplier." Central Computer Products 330 Central Avenue Fillmore, CA 93015 (805)524-4189 They still sell C/NIX, C/80, GRAMMATIK, spreadsheet programs, games, and much more. For $3 they will send you a catalog. I have no connection with them (except as a very satisfied customer.) Now to change the subject. I though I'd chip in my two cents worth on the Western Digital disk controllers are better/worse that the 765 FDC discussion. Some people may have already discovered that a disk formatted via a Western controller sometimes cannot be read by a 765. This is because the Western disk controllers format 10 bytes of FF and 6 bytes of 00 in gap 2 while the 765 formats 11 bytes of FF and 6 bytes of 00 (as per the standard.) This difference can cause the 765 to miss the data address mark. Whether or not this happens depends on how good the PLL is. The Western controllers, having shorted the gap, enable the PLL earlier. The 765 does not know the gap is substandard short and so does not enable the PLL in time. My 765 also can have trouble reading the first sector on a track when the disk is formatted on a foreign system. The 765 is sensitive to the location of the index pulse w.r.t. that first sector. My fix to this problem is: when I find such a disk, I enable a Flip-Flop on my controller card to divide-by-two the incoming index pulses. This causes two revolutions per index pulse and on the second pass, where there is no index pulse, the 765 reads the first sector just fine. -- -Don Kirkpatrick (donk@dadla.LA.TEK.COM) UUCP: {ihnp4 | decvax | ucbvax}!tektronix!dadla!donk ARPA: donk%dadla.LA.TEK.COM@RELAY.CS.NET ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Jun 90 13:07 CDT From: Doctor WHO <99626176@UWPLATT.EDU> Subject: CP/M text editors Message-ID: <80EE21132EDF205FAE@uwplatt.edu> I was just wondering what your favorite text editors for CP/M were (perferrably public domain). I am very new to CP/M (I have it on a C128) and there is so much public domain software out there. I have VDE 2.61 (or close to that version, can't remember off hand), VDO and TVX. Which do you suggest (or suggest one of your own) and why. I would especially appreciate responses from other C128 owners. Thanks. Cory Hug ------------------------------ Date: 11 Jun 90 05:13:15 GMT From: pacbell.com!pacbell!sactoh0!ianj@ames.arc.nasa.gov (Ian R. Justman) Subject: CP/M text editors Message-ID: <3251@sactoh0.UUCP> In article <80EE21132EDF205FAE@uwplatt.edu>, 99626176@UWPLATT.EDU (Doctor WHO) writes: > I was just wondering what your favorite text editors for CP/M were (perferrably > public domain). << Bits left out >> > I have VDE 2.61 (or close to that > version, can't remember off hand), VDO and TVX. Which do you suggest (or > suggest one of your own) and why. My favorite editor is ZDE 1.3. I like it because it interfaces well with ZCPR3.x. But it will (or at least should) work fine under vanilla CP/M. I also like it because it's a quick editor because everything is RAM-resident, but that will limit the length of your edit file to something like 40K, but there are special chop utilities that will allow you to break a large file down into smaller chunks. But I also find it easy to use. As for programs that edit larger files, I haven't had any luck yet finding a file that will fit that bill nicely. But VDE and ZDE are good starters until you can find a more suitable editor. Have fun, and happy hunting! -- Home: Ian Justman |UUCP: ...!uunet!mmsac or |"One of the few 6612 Whitsett Drive | ...!ucbvax!ucdavis!csusac or |die-hard CP/M North Highlands, CA | ...{ames, att, sun}!pacbell |addicts left on this (916) 344-5360 95660| !sactoh0!ijsys!ianj |planet" ------------------------------ Date: 11 Jun 90 08:43:10 GMT From: mcsun!hp4nl!ruuinf!praxis!clldomps@uunet.uu.net (Louis van Dompselaar) Subject: Fast Z80? Message-ID: <3428@ruuinf.cs.ruu.nl> Can anyone tell me if there are any speedy versions of the Z80? I do not mean the famous B and H types, but more the 16 bit compatible types. And if they are compatible, can they be fitted instead of the Z80. (Wasn't there a 280 or something?) Thanks for any help here Louis van Dompselaar clldomps@praxis.cs.ruu.nl ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 90 09:19:40 PDT From: rzh@lll-lcc.llnl.gov (Roger Hanscom) Subject: Kaypro II Message-ID: <9006111619.AA04690@lll-lcc.llnl.gov> Hello All -- A friend brought a Kaypro II by the house for repair. It would not boot. I got it going, but was surprised to discover that it has single-sided drives (something around 190 K per drive). This is the first time I've ever touched a "real-live" Kaypro. Can this be upgraded to DSDD?? A DSDD Kaypro is not a bad machine, but this thing would seem to have limited usefullness. Anybody know if the ROM upgrades sold by MicroC/Emerald (were they MicroCode??) will work on a machine like this?? I have applied their upgrade to a Xerox 820-1, and really like it. Is it worth thinking about for this machine??? roger rzh@lll-lcc.llnl.gov ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jun 90 14:38 CDT From: Doctor WHO <99626176@UWPLATT.EDU> Subject: subscribing directly Message-ID: <801829855FBFA000DF@uwplatt.edu> Is there a way to subscribe to this list directly rather than to a distribution list to get digests? I would like to get the messages as soon as they arrive rather than getting a digest every now and then. I thought it was strange when I see replys to messages that are in the same digest. That must mean that there is a way to subscribe directly. I am currently subscribed to DIST-CPM through LISTSERV@RPIECS on Bitnet. I would appreciate any help. Thanks. Cory Hug ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V90 Issue #98 ************************************ 12-Jun-90 00:42:47-MDT,9449;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Tue, 12 Jun 90 00:25:11 MDT From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V90 #99 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Message-ID: <900612002514.V90N99@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> INFO-CPM Digest Tue, 12 Jun 90 Volume 90 : Issue 99 Today's Topics: Compupro Selector Channel CP/M text editors (2 msgs) Fast Z80? Reply to INFO-CPM Digest V90 #94 WordStar CP/M Release 4 printer driver problems ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 11 Jun 90 19:41:29 GMT From: fernwood!portal!cup.portal.com!John_A_Pham@apple.com Subject: Compupro Selector Channel Message-ID: <30688@cup.portal.com> I bought this card over the weekends, so now I'm trying to look for some documentation. The on board rom has a marking "boot 8080 or 8086", does this mean that this board can be use to boot up either CPM-80 or CPM-86 disk? Does anyone know if Compupro is still in business? John ------------------------------ Date: 11 Jun 90 16:53:59 GMT From: mtxinu!shore@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Melinda Shore) Subject: CP/M text editors Message-ID: <1253@mtxinu.UUCP> In article <3251@sactoh0.UUCP> ianj@sactoh0.UUCP (Ian R. Justman) writes: >As for programs >that edit larger files, I haven't had any luck yet finding a file >that will fit that bill nicely. I like Vedit+ for this and other reasons. I've edited files 200K in length, and while it could get sluggish during reads/writes to floppies, it worked very nicely. It's also very configurable, and has a TECO-like macro language (some may not consider this to be a feature). -- Melinda Shore shore@mtxinu.com mt Xinu ..!uunet!mtxinu.com!shore ------------------------------ Date: 12 Jun 90 02:45:25 GMT From: cs.utexas.edu!asuvax!anasaz!chad@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu (Chad R. Larson) Subject: CP/M text editors Message-ID: <2426@anasaz.UUCP> In article <80EE21132EDF205FAE@uwplatt.edu> 99626176@UWPLATT.EDU (Doctor WHO) writes: +--------------- | I was just wondering what your favorite text editors for CP/M were | (perferrably public domain). +--------------- I've used VEDIT from CompuView for about 10 years. They are mostly concentrating on their MS-DOS version now, but still sell the CP/M one (at least they did about a year ago). It allows multiple files to be edited at one time, multiple windows on screen, files can be any size that will fit on your disk, works with almost any terminal, etc. It also has an incredibly powerful command language (very much like TECO). It is not free, but considering the fact that the most time you spend at your computer is in the editor (unless you are playing games), and that I believe good tools are important, it seems worth the price to me. Note: as usual, no link between CompuView and me. Just a satisfied customer (with a little pride that the editor I picked so long ago when Ted Green was still working in his basement turned out so well). -crl Cory Hug -- Chad R. Larson ...{mcdphx,asuvax}!anasaz!chad or chad@anasaz.UUCP Anasazi, Inc. - 7500 North Dreamy Draw Drive, Suite 120, Phoenix, Az 85020 (602) 870-3330 "I read the news today, oh boy!" -- John Lennon ------------------------------ Date: 11 Jun 90 20:16:52 GMT From: mcsun!unido!balu!tilmann%cosmo.UUCP@uunet.uu.net (Tilmann Reh) Subject: Fast Z80? Message-ID: <5777@balu.UUCP> clldomps@praxis.cs.ruu.nl (Louis van Dompselaar) writes: > Can anyone tell me if there are any speedy versions of the Z80? > (Wasn't there a 280 or something?) Yes, there was. But I will try to keep order. There is a CMOS-Z80 available with 10 MHz for some time now, and this spring they offered a 20 MHz version. As the Z80 peripherals (also CMOS) only speed up to 10 MHz, this is only of interest if someone uses TTL-only peripherals (think of embedded control). The Z180 (or the identical HD 64180) is an upward compatible MPU with at this time max. 10 MHz clock. However, it is about 25% faster than a 10 MHz Z80, cause the M1 cycle lasts only 3 clocks (instead of 4). The MPU contains two UARTs, two 16-bit-Timer/Counters, two DMA controllers, and a simple banked MMU for 1 MB addressing space. Bus size still 8 bits. Adds a few instructions to the Z80 command set (non-destructive AND, and 8x8 bit unsigned multiply). Z280 is the latest offspring of Zilog's 8-Bit crew. It is also Z80 compatible but not Z180 compatible. Clock frequency 10 MHz (standard), will go in quantities with 12.5 MHz in 3Q90. It has a pipelined CPU so speed comparison depends on the application. With standard CP/M programs, it is a little bit faster than the Z180 at the same clock (using 16-bit bus). This MPU contains only one UART, three 16-bit-T/C's, four DMA-controllers, a 256-byte cache, and a complex paged MMU for 16 MB. It can be configured for 8-bit-Z80-Bus mode, or for 16-bit-Z-Bus mode (the Z8000 bus). Instruction set is about twice as big as that of Z80, the new instructions include signed & unsigned multiply & divide for bytes & words, and very powerful new addressing modes (base index, register index, for example). It also supports System and User Modes, with different MMU pages and different privileges. Both Z180 and Z280 have programmable bus timing (wait state generators), but the Z280 is the more flexible one. As a plug-in replacement for the Z80, neither of them is useable. But, you could adapt them both via some little PCB. Both MPU's are housed in PLCC-68 cases, the Z180 is also available in 64-pin shrink dip. Of course if you do that, the Z280 cannot be driven in Z-Bus mode. Perhaps you simply contact Zilog and let them send you some data sheets. However, if you are interested in a new computer system with the Z280, please contact me (as I just finished design of my single-board Z280 computer). Tilmann Reh ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 90 19:25:13 -0400 From: EUDOH%SCTNVE.BITNET@CORNELLC.cit.cornell.edu Subject: Reply to INFO-CPM Digest V90 #94 Message-ID: <5A060B130A1B01E4-SCTNVE*EUDOH@sctnve> > I got my $20 package from CBM quite a few years ago. Included was a single > manual that consisted of three or four Digital Research CP/M 3.0 manuals. > Nothing in the manuals was C128 specific. On the disks were all the utilities > mentioned in the Digital Research documentation, including the HEXCOM that you > mention as well as MAC, RMAC, LIB, LINK, XREF, SID, the source code to the > BIOS, standard (Z80) and specific (8502) macro libraries for the assemblers. > When DR went from 2.X -> 3.0 some of the utilities were replaced with "new > and improved versions", Including LOAD(HEXCOM) and DDT(SID). The disks totale > 3 - C128, 1541 compatible single sided disks (one of the disks was a flippy). > Bottom line, I felt I got my moneys worth. Your mileage may vary. How do you go about ordering CPM for the C128, more specifically through who and what is the address ?? Also, I recall that the C128 in earlier CPM versions was supposed to be able to read other CPM formats (haven't tried it yet), but has this changed ?? Finally, does anyone have a working version of kermit and/or Xmodem for the C128 under CPM, or any other modem program for that matter ?? thanks in advance... A 2..... ____________________________________________________________ ( -->> Eudoh@sctnve.bitnet <<-- Cyber Lab Consultant ) ( Computer Operations ) ( //!\\ \\\\\\\\ Southern College of Technology ) ( // \\ !! Marietta, Georgia ) ( //!!!!!\\ //////// \\ Etop Udoh \\ ) ( // \\ !! \\ - A2 - \\ ) ( // \\ \\\\\\\\ ) ( Sometimes you just gotta say "what the ...." ) (___________________________________________________________) ------------------------------ Date: 11 Jun 90 17:49:18 GMT From: mcsun!unido!balu!tilmann%cosmo.UUCP@uunet.uu.net (Tilmann Reh) Subject: WordStar CP/M Release 4 printer driver problems Message-ID: <5776@balu.UUCP> Hello everybody! Lately, I bought a copy of WordStar, CP/M Edition, Release 4. As the delivered printer drivers (incl. CUSTOM and SIMPLE) do not fit my needs, I would like to write a new one which does. The WSCHANGE program offers a function 'add new driver', which expects some driver file of the type '.DRV'. However, there is *NO* documentation about format and software interface of these '.DRV' files, nor about file format and spec's of the drivers itself, nor about the complete WSPRINT.OVR file. I wrote to the MicroPro Customer Service in San Rafael, but I got no answer at all. The german MicroPro office didn't even know of WS 4 for CP/M. Can anybody help with detailed information? (or even supply e-mail contact address of MicroPro) Thanks in advance. Tilmann Reh ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V90 Issue #99 ************************************ 13-Jun-90 08:23:49-MDT,10838;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Wed, 13 Jun 90 08:15:08 MDT From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V90 #100 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Message-ID: <900613081510.V90N100@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> INFO-CPM Digest Wed, 13 Jun 90 Volume 90 : Issue 100 Today's Topics: CP/M text editors (2 msgs) Daisy Chaining XEROX 820-2 Drives HP 125 series 100 Computer INFO-CPM Digest V90 #98 INFO-CPM Digest V90 #99 looking for CP/M for Macintosh ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 12 Jun 90 09:57 N From: DHAESE%phs.uia.ac.be@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU Subject: CP/M text editors I like the text editor of Borland's Turbo Pascal v2 for CP/M, which can only be used within Turbo Pascal. Under Turbo Pascal V3 and higher it does exist as a separately editor, for the PC anyway, but does it also exist for plain CP/M ? Furthermore, I believe it is called the "microstar editor", but I am not sure of it. I wonder ... Gratien D'haese e-mail: dhaese@phs.uia.ac.be dhaese@banuia51 ------------------------------ Date: 12 Jun 90 17:01:18 GMT From: wa3wbu!compnect!dave@uunet.uu.net (Dave Ratcliffe) Subject: CP/M text editors Message-ID: <619@compnect.UUCP> In article <80EE21132EDF205FAE@uwplatt.edu>, 99626176@UWPLATT.EDU (Doctor WHO) writes: > I was just wondering what your favorite text editors for CP/M were (perferrably > public domain). I am very new to CP/M (I have it on a C128) and there is so > much public domain software out there. I have VDE 2.61 (or close to that > version, can't remember off hand), VDO and TVX. Which do you suggest (or > suggest one of your own) and why. I would especially appreciate responses from > other C128 owners. Thanks. I know you said 'preferrably public domain' but I had to install my $.02 American in here. It's old and it's been upgraded a LOT since 1983 but I am using WordStar 3.3 on my Molecular Mod. 9. I've used it for everything from letter writing to writing code for the basic compiler to chew on and have found it easy to get along with and awful hard to break. Add to that that it's installable for a wide selection of printers and terminals and it fills the need nicely. If you ever find a set of disks for it with the manuals at a reasonable price, I think it would be worth the $$$ to buy it. BTW, I haven't run into any problems with files to large for it either. Here's hoping I don't start a WP war here (my WP is better than YOUR WP!) :-) *>> Dave <<* [------: Dave Ratcliffe :--------:-: 2832 Croyden Rd. Harrisburg Pa. 17104 :-] : dave@compnect.uucp -or- : The Data Factory BBS : : uunet!wa3wbu!compnect!dave -or-: Data: (717)657-4997 - (717)657-4992 : : compnect!dave@uunet.UU.NET :...........................................] [........use what works..........] ------------------------------ Date: 12 Jun 90 11:18:16 GMT From: zephyr.ens.tek.com!tektronix!sequent!upba!dsndata!unocss!mlewis@beaver.cs.washington.edu (mlewis) Subject: Daisy Chaining XEROX 820-2 Drives Message-ID: <2995@unocss.unomaha.edu> From article <900608-100733-3304@Xerox>, by Sprague.WBST311@XEROX.COM: >> I would like to daisy chain an 8-inch floppy drive unit to the >> 8-inch rigid drive connected to my XEROX 820-2. > I too have wondered how to do that, but do not know how to do it (yet). It > is not addressed in the Xerox 820 Technical Reference manual at all. I > will forward your message on to the 820 Users Group dl here at Xerox. < Just *DON'T* get them mixed up (Drive and < card). You *WILL* blow the hard drive controller board inside the drive < cabenet if you attach it to the Floppy controller daughter board, and they < are damn near impossible to replace. > If you need a floppy controller daughter board, let me know. Where were you guys when I needed info on the Xerox rigid drive? And the controller? I have a BRAND NEW drive and SA1400 controller in my basement that I can't use, since I have no data on either, except for the Shugart glossy on the controller, and the Shugart foldout on their 8" products. The shipping blocks are still in place on the drive. I just removed the cables as the box was new. The box holds a pair of 8" drives now, although that took some surgery, and I'm willing to part with the SA1004, the SA1400 and the SA850 that came in the box for cheep. Any takers? My wife will love you for it! Marc -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Na khuya mne ehto gavno? | Internet: cs057@zeus.unomaha.edu preferred machine->| UUCP: uunet!mcmi!unocss!mlewis --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jun 90 9:06:51 EDT From: "Paul V. Pullen" Subject: HP 125 series 100 Computer Message-ID: <9006120906.aa09923@CRDEC2.APGEA.ARMY.MIL> Does anyone out in CP/M land have any knowledge about an HP 125 series 100 computer? My wife's school has just been given an HP 'terminal' (i.e. it looks like a standard HP Terminal). It has markings on the front that it is a 125 Series 100. It comes with a standard HP9121D disk drive, has on the rear panel several interface plugs, HPIB, RS-232, what looks like a centronics interface connector and the standard HP terminal connector. Central Computer's catalog says the HP125 is a CP/M system, but I am not sure what this is. If anyone has one of these systems, and a boot disk that I could get to try, I would greatly appreciate the assistance. Please contact me at the electronic address below. Thanks for your assistance. Paul Pullen ---------------------------------- Paul Pullen United States Army Chemical Research, Development and Engineering Center pvpullen@crdec2.apgea.army.mil (301) 671-2519 /(301) 671-4174 ---------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jun 90 11:21 EDT From: "Bill Weinel" Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V90 #98 > A friend brought a Kaypro II by the house for repair. It would not boot. > I got it going, but was surprised to discover that it has single-sided > drives (something around 190 K per drive). This is the first time I've > ever touched a "real-live" Kaypro. Can this be upgraded to DSDD?? A > DSDD Kaypro is not a bad machine, but this thing would seem to have limited > usefullness. Anybody know if the ROM upgrades sold by MicroC/Emerald (were > they MicroCode??) will work on a machine like this?? I have applied their > upgrade to a Xerox 820-1, and really like it. Is it worth thinking about > for this machine??? Roger, I recently finished upgrading an old Kaypro II to a Kaypro 8 by doing the same type of thing which your refering. Micro-Cornucopia has ROM upgrades available to upgrade a II to a 4 or 8 at a very reasonable price. The bad news is that they're going out of business.. so if you want one you'd better order it now. I assume that Dave Thompson will probably still have them available through his brothers company (Micro- Sphere in Bend,OR) even after Micro-C goes under. By ording a PRO8 ROM from them and doing a few hardware mods you can add up to 4 DSDD 40 trk 48tpi (360k) drives to the machine and give it the ability to run at 5 Mhz clock rate. I put 4 half height Teac FD55s in mine and love it. BTW: When you call them be sure and use the standard number as the 800 number has been disconnected. I beleive they are in the office from 10am til 2pm PDT M-F unless they've shut down already. As for a comparison to the 820-1.. yes, it is worth it. The 820-1 and the Kaypro II are almost identical machines at the motherboard level. Only a few minor differences in the disk controller area seperate them. As far as this goes, the Kaypro is a superior machine since it already has a WD 1593 for a disk controller chip (and is thus able to do DD with only minor hardware modification). The Xerox requires replacement of the controller chip and some mods to the data seperator circuit in- order to do double density as well as a clock rate speed change. To sum up.. I'd recommend the conversion process. It requires some work on your part, and you have to be handy with a soldering iron, but it's cheap and yields a superior machine. TWYL Bill ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jun 90 11:27 EDT From: "Bill Weinel" Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V90 #99 > I bought this card over the weekends, so now I'm trying to look for > some documentation. The on board rom has a marking "boot 8080 or 8086", > does this mean that this board can be use to boot up either CPM-80 or CPM-86 > disk? > > Does anyone know if Compupro is still in business? The DISK2 (which is what you have) will boot either Compupro CP/M-80 or CP/M-86. The boot sequence was somewhat specific to Compupro hardware though, since it used a call to the the dual processor cpu board (bring- ing the 8088/86 alive to do block moves in memory). Consequently, unless you have a Compupro dual processor cpu board.. you may have to re-write some of the ROM boot code. Compupro is still around.. They are called Viasyn Corp. and are located in Hayward CA. TWYL Bill ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jun 90 07:26:29 CDT From: buchs@Mayo.edu Subject: looking for CP/M for Macintosh Message-ID: <9006121226.AA09894@fermat.Mayo.edu> I have a 128K Macintosh which is virtually useless now running the Mac OS. Anybody have any clues on a CP/M or similar OS for this system? I'd like something that does not use much memory and would allow me to play with some programming. Please reply to me and I will summarize to those who request it. Thanks. ------------------------------------------------------------- Kevin Buchs Internet: buchs@mayo.edu Mayo Foundation Is this my life or is it just an Rochester, MN 55905 incredible, high-speed, simulation? (507) 284-0009 -S. R. Cleaves ------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V90 Issue #100 ************************************* 14-Jun-90 21:40:12-MDT,8199;000000000000 Mail-From: KPETERSEN created at 14-Jun-90 21:26:41 Return-Path: Date: Thu, 14 Jun 90 21:26:41 MDT From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V90 #101 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Message-ID: <900614212641.V90N101@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> INFO-CPM Digest Thu, 14 Jun 90 Volume 90 : Issue 101 Today's Topics: Chess Game Wanted (2 msgs) CP/M on CBM 8032? CP/M TextEditors Daisy Chaining XEROX 8 favourite editors is there a difininite compendium of Word Star 4.0 bugs PD Coleco ADAM disk software announcement ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 13 Jun 90 06:18:24 GMT From: snorkelwacker!spdcc!merk!alliant!linus!nixbur!nixpbe!peun11!josef@apple.com (Moellers) Subject: Chess Game Wanted Message-ID: In <5767@hub.ucsb.edu> 6600raft@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu (Michael Wise) writes: >Does anybody know if there is a public domain chess game out there? I'm >not a very good player (rated at about 1200) so I don't need anything too >killer. I've got Aztec 'C' and Microsoft BASIC installed on my system >if it needs to be compiled. (I'm running CP/M 2.2 if it matters.) Sounds interesting, may I say "me too"? -- | Josef Moellers | c/o Nixdorf Computer AG | | USA: mollers.pad@nixbur.uucp | Abt. PXD-S14 | | !USA: mollers.pad@nixpbe.uucp | Heinz-Nixdorf-Ring | | Phone: (+49) 5251 104662 | D-4790 Paderborn | ------------------------------ Date: 14 Jun 90 16:02:10 GMT From: ogicse!zephyr.ens.tek.com!wrgate!dadla!donk@ucsd.edu (Donald C. Kirkpatrick) Subject: Chess Game Wanted Message-ID: <2754@wrgate.WR.TEK.COM> In article josef@nixpbe.UUCP (Moellers) writes: >In <5767@hub.ucsb.edu> 6600raft@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu (Michael Wise) writes: > >>Does anybody know if there is a public domain chess game out there? > >Sounds interesting, may I say "me too"? >-- While it's not public domain, Central Computer Products does sell MYCHESS for $31. It is rated at approximately 1550 (I forgot the exact rating.) Their address is: 330 Central Avenue Fillmore, CA 93015 (805)524-4189 Their catalog costs $3; It's clear form their low prices that it would be difficult to make money and give it away. I have no connection with them other than a satisfied customer. -- -Don Kirkpatrick (donk@dadla.LA.TEK.COM) UUCP: {ihnp4 | decvax | ucbvax}!tektronix!dadla!donk ARPA: donk%dadla.LA.TEK.COM@RELAY.CS.NET ------------------------------ Date: 14 Jun 90 15:37:33 GMT From: sdd.hp.com!cs.utexas.edu!helios!mcguire@ucsd.edu (Tim McGuire) Subject: CP/M on CBM 8032? Message-ID: <5865@helios.TAMU.EDU> A friend of mine has acquired a couple CBM 8032 computers and restored them to operating condition. (The 8032 is a glorified PET w/ 80 column display.) He recently acquired a board which is apparently a CP/M board for this machine. It was manufactured by Madison [WI] Computer around 1981 and is called a ZRAM board. It has two Z80a chips in it, and an MC6812 chip, as well as several small chips that appear to be RAM chips. He has the board installed but with no documentation, can't get the 6502 to go to sleep and allow the Z80 to run. (In addition, he has no software for it.) My question: Is there someone out there who is familiar with this board and can point us in the right direction to acquire some software? (I posted a similar request in comp.sys.cbm but got no response. Any lead, no matter how minute, would be greatly appreciated.) Tim McGuire mcguire@cs.tamu.edu ------------------------------ Date: 13 Jun 90 22:21:13 GMT From: pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!ohstpy!miavx1!dastrout@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu (Dave) Subject: CP/M TextEditors Message-ID: <1558.2676760a@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu> Manx software makes a wonderful wordstar-like split screen text editor. It is not pd, but it is fairly cheap. Look for advertised with their C compiler (also a good product.) Dave Strout dastrout@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu root@next1.acs.muohio.edu ------------------------------ Date: 14 Jun 90 01:54:00 GMT From: mips!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!torsqnt!tmsoft!masnet!canremote!scott.gregory@apple.com (SCOTT GREGORY) Subject: Daisy Chaining XEROX 8 Message-ID: SM>Subj: Daisy Chaining XEROX 820-2 Drives SM>Orga: The Internet SM>For some reason, I could not send directly to Steve Westlund, so I am SM>sending this reply to the whole group. SM> ~ Mike SM> (Sprague.Wbst311@8erox.Com) I hope the mailing problem persists :-) because I am interested also in any/all information on Xerox 820-II's. (I am now the proud owner of two.) So please post all found info to the net or please e-mail to me too. THANKS! Scott G. scott.gregory@canremote.uucp --- ------------------------------ Date: 13 Jun 90 23:36:50 GMT From: cs.utexas.edu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!utgpu!utzoo!dciem!lfergus!larry@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu (Larry Moore) Subject: favourite editors Message-ID: Has anyone got a copy of the Zmate (Pmate for Z-systems) yet? I'd be interested in your evaluation of it. Thanks. ------------------------------ Date: 13 Jun 90 21:48:13 GMT From: van-bc!ubc-cs!alberta!atha!tech@uunet.uu.net (Richard Loken) Subject: is there a difininite compendium of Word Star 4.0 bugs Message-ID: <1938@aurora.cs.athabascau.ca> I am using Word Star 4.0 with a Diablo 1650 word processing printer which I use with the WS Diablo print driver. All goes well most of the time but every once in a while a document will not print without errors: the errors are always identical and in the same place, stopping the flow of data (to ensure that the buffer is not overflowing) does not change the symptoms, and errors are more likely to appear in large files but they can be as easily at the beginning as the end. I have three possible suspects: an inappropriate printer driver, a defective printer, and hardshelled insects. I am presently examining the entymological angle. What are the known WS4.0 bugs and their solutions? -- Richard Loken VE6BSV : "If it doesn't copy Campy Athabasca University : then its just a marketing Athabasca, Alberta Canada : gimmick." - M. S. Lueke tech@cs.AthabascaU.CA {alberta|decwrl}!atha!tech : ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jun 90 21:22:54 PDT From: johnlee@pnet01.cts.com (John Wiley) Subject: PD Coleco ADAM disk software announcement Message-ID: <009381BC27FD1A80.00000899@dcs.simpact.com> Some time ago, there was an item in this digest from someone seeking software for the Coleco ADAM computer (out of production). I have written a program which enables file and sector level communication between the ADAM and IBM compatibles via 5 1/4" floppy. The program is now available in ADAMDISK.ARC on the San Diego Computer Society BBS. This file includes the Turbo Pascal source code, .COM file, and a .DOC file describing the software and general info on the ADAM. The program runs on IBM compatibles, and includes a disk edit function similar to Norton Utilities. The entire .ARC file is offered for public use at no charge. The SDCS BBS operates 24 hours at (619) 549-3788 (2400 N81). Views expressed are my own. UUCP: {hplabs!hp-sdd, sdcsvax, nosc}!crash!pnet01!johnlee ARPA: crash!pnet01!johnlee@nosc.mil (John Wiley - San Diego, CA.) INET: johnlee@pnet01.CTS.COM ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V90 Issue #101 ************************************* 16-Jun-90 09:06:55-MDT,7778;000000000000 Mail-From: KPETERSEN created at 16-Jun-90 08:52:44 Return-Path: Date: Sat, 16 Jun 90 08:52:44 MDT From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V90 #102 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Message-ID: <900616085244.V90N102@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> INFO-CPM Digest Sat, 16 Jun 90 Volume 90 : Issue 102 Today's Topics: Compupro Selector Channel CP/M text editors (3 msgs) Daisy Chaining XEROX 820 Design Analysis Associates DE-100 System... Help !! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 15 Jun 90 19:42:04 GMT From: crash!mwilson@nosc.mil (Marc Wilson) Subject: Compupro Selector Channel Message-ID: <3175@crash.cts.com> In article <30688@cup.portal.com> John_A_Pham@cup.portal.com writes: > > I bought this card over the weekends, so now I'm trying to look for >some documentation. The on board rom has a marking "boot 8080 or 8086", >does this mean that this board can be use to boot up either CPM-80 or CPM-86 >disk? > > Does anyone know if Compupro is still in business? What you have here is half of a Compupro Disk 2 HD controller. Their first one was a two-board set, the DISK 2 and the SELECTOR CHANNEL. I'm a bit hazy about the function of ech board of the pair, but the DISK 2 board carries the connectors for the hard drive(s). The ROM on the SELECTOR CHANNEL will appear at your processor reset address, wherever that happens to be. You do NOT need the CPU 85/88, contrary to what someone else has said. The board has a jumper contolling which half of the ROM is enabled. Set it one way, and the boot routine is 8-bit ( i.e. 8080 ). Set it the other way and you have a 16-bit boot. The SELECTOR CHANNEL board was the smarts for the board set. It's a channel controller, like the IBM mainframes. You leave it commands in memory, then bump its attention port. This caused it to come out, get the IOPB ( I/O parameter Block ), and tell the controller what to do. It's an IEEE DMA device, capable of transferring 64k of data at a time, across 64k boundaries. Supposedly pretty fast, too. Oh, this beast was a SA-1000 ( 8" ) controller, not ST-506 compatible ( although you supposedly could get CompuPro to fix you up one that was ST-506 ). Compupro is Viasyn now. No buyout, or anything like that... they just changed their name. They can be reached at 415-782-2481. Note that they no longer manufacture the board, and that their current operating systems no longer support it ( except for CP/M-80 ). I have no connection with Compupro/Viasyn other than being a very satisfied customer. My S-100 is all Compupro. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Marc Wilson ARPA: ...!crash!mwilson@nosc.mil ...!crash!pnet01!pro-sol!mwilson@nosc.mil UUCP: [ cbosgd | hp-sdd!hplabs | sdcsvax | nosc ]!crash!mwilson INET: mwilson@crash.CTS.COM ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: 14 Jun 90 23:31:08 GMT From: sci34hub!cdthq!gary@uunet.uu.net (gary) Subject: CP/M text editors Message-ID: dave@compnect.UUCP (Dave Ratcliffe) writes: > [ Dave recommends WordStar 3.3 ] > [ ... ] BTW, I haven't run into any problems > with files to large for it either. I understand that it is limited to 512K. This from a friend who had to edit a 1.5MB database, of which 1MB vanished upon exiting WS. Apparently, the convention for handling files over 512K involved a different section of the directory entry, and WS didn't (and probably still doesn't) know about it. I used to use Vedit; it was supposed to handle a file half the size of the drive (had to create the temp file....). Gary Heston, at home.... ------------------------------ Date: 15 Jun 90 19:31:12 GMT From: decvax.dec.com!zinn!mem@mcnc.org (Mark E. Mallett) Subject: CP/M text editors Message-ID: <762@zinn.MV.COM> I still use TED, the TECO clone that I wrote for the Z80. But then, I'm biased. :-) -mm- -- Mark E. Mallett Zinn Computer Co/ PO Box 4188/ Manchester NH/ 03103 Bus. Phone: 603 645 5069 Home: 603 424 8129 BIX: mmallett uucp: mem@zinn.MV.COM ( ...{decvax|elrond|harvard}!zinn!mem ) Northern MA and Southern NH consultants: Ask (in mail!) about MV.COM ------------------------------ Date: 16 Jun 90 08:26:49 GMT From: eru!luth!sunic!mcsun!cernvax!chx400!ethz!ethz-inf!wyle@BLOOM-BEACON.MIT.EDU (Mitchell Wyle) Subject: CP/M text editors Message-ID: <26552@ethz-inf.UUCP> I hate wordstar 3.3 (which I use all the time and am using now). I use vi at work but would switch to micro-emacs if it has macros. Does it? Can I write complicated macros in it? I know about vedit and don't like it that much. -Mitch ------------------------------ Date: 15 Jun 90 16:39:53 PDT (Friday) From: Sprague.WBST311@Xerox.COM Subject: Daisy Chaining XEROX 820 Message-ID: <900615-170123-1158@Xerox> I have not been active on this group for that long. I know quite a bit about Xerox 820 computers (820, 820-II, and 16/8). When I reply to a question, should I copy in the whole group or just send a reply to the person asking the question? Scott, I am sending you the info on Daisy Chaining additional 8" drives onto the 8" rigid drive. ~ Mike ------------------------------ Date: 15 Jun 90 12:49:12 GMT From: mentor.cc.purdue.edu!mace.cc.purdue.edu!trice@purdue.edu (Phil Trice) Subject: Design Analysis Associates DE-100 System... Message-ID: <4933@mace.cc.purdue.edu> A short time ago, Billy D'Augustine posted a query about the Design Analysis Associates DE-100 disk emulator system. Someone then responded who knew about the beast. Unfortunately, neither Billy nor I have the messages, or the name of the responder. And, as I would like to talk to the person in the know about this system (which doubles as a nice CPM machine), here goes some redundancy. Would the person who works/worked for the company who manufactured this system please email me? I have a bunch of questions for you. For the rest of you, my apologies for the net.clutter. Thanks in advance, -Phil Trice Purdue University Computing Center Microcomputer Repair Group West Lafayette, IN 47907 (317) 494-1787 ahp@mace.cc.purdue.edu ------------------------------ Date: 15 Jun 90 19:58:22 GMT From: mcsun!ukc!warwick!nott-cs!clan.nott.ac.uk!cczdvh@uunet.uu.net (David Valentine-Hagart) Subject: Help !! Message-ID: <51067@robin.cs.nott.ac.uk> Hi.. this is my first post to comp.os.cpm and so inevitably it's a query. I have just given a good home to an ICL model 36 PC. This runs CCP/M-86, has an 8088 proccessor, 720k floppy drive & 10Mb internal hard drive. It came with all the manuals (luckily) and some useful software. the Big Question is... can I get any more software for this machine, does anybody know WHERE particularly in the UK, are there any PD sources that I can reasonably access etc.etc Somebody please point me in the right direction.. I have a whole 7Meg on my hard disk just waiting to be used up :->> ....................Thanx in advance..... Dave V-H........... eMail....cczdvh@uk.ac.nott.ccc.vme.... ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V90 Issue #102 ************************************* 18-Jun-90 17:49:17-MDT,3448;000000000000 Mail-From: KPETERSEN created at 18-Jun-90 17:38:46 Return-Path: Date: Mon, 18 Jun 90 17:38:46 MDT From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V90 #103 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Message-ID: <900618173846.V90N103@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> INFO-CPM Digest Mon, 18 Jun 90 Volume 90 : Issue 103 Today's Topics: PD Chess game for CP/M text editors (2 msgs) UZI Unix for CP/M ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 16 Jun 90 18:59:53 GMT From: bu.edu!mirror!pallio!dg@uunet.uu.net (David Goodenough) Subject: PD Chess game for CP/M Message-ID: Someone was asking about a PD chess program for CP/M. I don't have that posting available to me any more, but I came across a copy of Z80CHESS recently. If you still want it please drop me a line here, and I'll send it out to you. -- dg@pallio.UUCP - David Goodenough +---+ IHS | +-+-+ ..... !harvard!xait!pallio!dg +-+-+ | AKA: dg%pallio.uucp@xait.xerox.com +---+ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Jun 90 21:27 CDT From: Doctor WHO <99626176@UWPLATT.EDU> Subject: text editors Message-ID: <7B280F1A19DF8005D4@uwplatt.edu> Thank you for all your responses to the text editors question. I have found VDE to be my favorite out of the three that I have. Does anyone know if the ZDE program mentioned by a few of you can be found anywhere on the network (I'm on Bitnet with an interface to Internet)? I got VDE off of SIMTEL-20 but I understand that that is no longer in operation for our purposes (unfortunately). I never saw ZDE there though. Cory Hug ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Jun 1990 22:01 MDT From: "Frank J. Wancho" Subject: text editors Message-ID: I got VDE off of SIMTEL-20 but I understand that that is no longer in operation for our purposes (unfortunately). Cory, you misunderstood. We're still here. Funding prematurely ran out for the full-time maintenance of the CP/M and MSDOS collections for the rest of this FY - i.e., until the end of September. The collections remain where they are, and BITNET access through RPIECS and NDSUVM1, and other continue on as they were. We expect at least a minimum level of funding to resume the tasks, beginning in October. There are no guarantees, and TANSTAAFL. --Frank ------------------------------ Date: 16 Jun 90 21:04:34 GMT From: bu.edu!mirror!pallio!dg@uunet.uu.net (David Goodenough) Subject: UZI Unix for CP/M Message-ID: In article <6612@amelia.nas.nasa.gov> slayden@prandtl.nas.nasa.gov (James B. Slayden) asks: > Is it possible that someone out there has UZI- the unix environment for > the CP/M? Or do you have any information where I can get the specs, etc.. I believe that UZI is available from SIMTEL20. Look in PD2:. -- dg@pallio.UUCP - David Goodenough +---+ IHS | +-+-+ ..... !harvard!xait!pallio!dg +-+-+ | AKA: dg%pallio.uucp@xait.xerox.com +---+ ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V90 Issue #103 ************************************* 21-Jun-90 05:25:29-MDT,8862;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Thu, 21 Jun 90 05:15:58 MDT From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V90 #104 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Message-ID: <900621051559.V90N104@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> INFO-CPM Digest Thu, 21 Jun 90 Volume 90 : Issue 104 Today's Topics: 4 phase computer system Access to archive-server by mail? CP/M text editors Editors Editors, Microcornucopia (2 msgs) Looking for CPM PIP.COM on 8" disk Madison Computer and CP/M for CBM 8032 Xerox 820 CP/M System Disk Needed. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 20 Jun 90 15:38 CDT From: LANCE TAGLIAPIETRA Subject: 4 phase computer system Message-ID: <78341C2F091F800119@uwplatt.edu> Hi, A friend has a 4 Phase computer that he needs some information on. He has several boards while look as though they will fit in an S100 backplane. He was also told that this was a Motorola system, but has not been able to confirm this. Any info would be appreciated. Thanks, Lance Tagliapietra ucslct@uwplatt.edu ------------------------------ Date: 21 Jun 90 09:04:23 GMT From: eru!luth!sunic!mcsun!hp4nl!tnosoes!joep@bloom-beacon.mit.edu (Joep Mathijssen) Subject: Access to archive-server by mail? Message-ID: <1204@tnosoes.izf.tno.nl> Who can mail me an address from a archive-server with CPM-binaries and sources that can be reached by E-mail (we don`t have FTP yet). Joep, ~ =============================================================================== Joep Mathijssen TNO Institute for Perception Phone : +31 34 63 562 11 P.O. Box 23 Fax : +31 34 63 539 77 3769 ZG Soesterberg E-mail: uunet!hp4nl.nluug.nl!tnosoes!joep The Netherlands or: joep@izf.tno.nl =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: 18 Jun 90 19:55:31 GMT From: wa3wbu!compnect!dave@uunet.uu.net (Dave Ratcliffe) Subject: CP/M text editors Message-ID: <634@compnect.UUCP> In article , gary@cdthq (gary) writes: > dave@compnect.UUCP (Dave Ratcliffe) writes: > > [ Dave recommends WordStar 3.3 ] > > [ ... ] BTW, I haven't run into any problems > > with files to large for it either. > > I understand that it is limited to 512K. This from a friend who > had to edit a 1.5MB database, of which 1MB vanished upon exiting > WS. Hmmmmm.. Thanks for the warning Gary. I doubt I'll be working with files that size since I use it mostly for writing code and the modules never get quite THAT big but it's still nice to know.... I'm reading mentions of FW and PD editors myself. Always interested in what else is available even though WS has become second nature. Presents problems in my Unix environment though. uEmacs doesn't know what to make of ^KS^QP :-) *>> Dave <<* [------: Dave Ratcliffe :--------:-: 2832 Croyden Rd. Harrisburg Pa. 17104 :-] : dave@compnect.uucp -or- : The Data Factory BBS : : uunet!wa3wbu!compnect!dave -or-: Data: (717)657-4997 - (717)657-4992 : : compnect!dave@uunet.UU.NET :...........................................] [........use what works..........] ------------------------------ Date: 20 Jun 90 12:57:17 GMT From: mcsun!cernvax!chx400!ethz!ethz-inf!wyle@uunet.uu.net (Mitchell Wyle) Subject: Editors Message-ID: <26898@ethz-inf.UUCP> In <3331@sactoh0.UUCP> ianj@sactoh0.UUCP (Ian R. Justman) writes: >I tried VDE 2.66, but I had problems using it. I prefer ZDE 1.3 >mainly because it works with my ZCPR33 system. Plus, like I said >in earlier posts, I can also use it with vanilla CP/M. And I have, >too. Are there any CP/M editors with MACROS? A simple map mechanism as in vi (even without the @ apply operator) would be good enough. Thanks in advance, -Mitch ------------------------------ Date: 15 Jun 90 19:34:00 GMT From: astroatc!nicmad!madnix!deety!rat@speedy.wisc.edu (David Douthitt) Subject: Editors, Microcornucopia Message-ID: I was using the MicroCornucopia Editor for a while. I have Wordstar 3.3, but that's overkill for my use. Once I started using VDE 2.66, I havent gone back to the MicroCornucopia Editor. Its kind of a shame, because its such a nice editor. I wont get rid of it, thats for sure. Is MicroCornucopia still around? What are they like? -- ====== David Douthitt ======== aka "The Stainless Steel Rat" ==== UUCP: uwvax!astroatc!nicmad!madnix!deety!rat InterNet: madnix!deety!rat@spool.cs.wisc.edu Home of Mad Apple Forth and the Tiger Toolbox -- Apple II Forever! Have you hugged your CP/M today? ------------------------------ Date: 20 Jun 90 04:36:07 GMT From: zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!mips!pacbell.com!pacbell!sactoh0!ianj@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu (Ian R. Justman) Subject: Editors, Microcornucopia Message-ID: <3331@sactoh0.UUCP> In article , rat@deety.UUCP (David Douthitt) writes: > I was using the MicroCornucopia Editor for a while. I have Wordstar 3.3, > but that's overkill for my use. > I don't know what the Micro-C editor is like, but I have used WS 3.3, and 4.0. I prefer 4.0 because of its extended printer drivers. > Once I started using VDE 2.66, I havent gone back to the MicroCornucopia > Editor. Its kind of a shame, because its such a nice editor. I wont > get rid of it, thats for sure. I tried VDE 2.66, but I had problems using it. I prefer ZDE 1.3 mainly because it works with my ZCPR33 system. Plus, like I said in earlier posts, I can also use it with vanilla CP/M. And I have, too. > Is MicroCornucopia still around? What are they like? I don't know what they are like (rather were). As for their being in business or not, Micro-C just met its demise. -- Home: Ian Justman |UUCP: ...!uunet!mmsac or |"One of the few 6612 Whitsett Drive | ...!ucbvax!ucdavis!csusac or |die-hard CP/M North Highlands, CA | ...{ames, att, sun}!pacbell |addicts left on this (916) 344-5360 95660| !sactoh0!ijsys!ianj |planet" ------------------------------ Date: 20 Jun 90 15:43:50 GMT From: mentor.cc.purdue.edu!mace.cc.purdue.edu!du4@purdue.edu (Ted Goldstein) Subject: Looking for CPM PIP.COM on 8" disk Message-ID: <4951@mace.cc.purdue.edu> The subject just about covers it. A collegue of mine is in search of of copy of the CPM utililty program PIP.COM on an 8 inch disk, or failing that someone who can copy it from his 5 1/4" disk to an 8" disk. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Please reply through E-mail to the address below rather than posting, since I rather doubt everyone else is interested. AdvTHANKSance -- Ted Goldstein E-mail: du4@mace.cc.purdue.edu Network and Systems Admninistrator Phone : (317) 494-9070 Purdue University School of Technology Office: Knoy Hall, Rm G009 -Life is like a merry-go-round . . . they both have horses. ------------------------------ Date: 16 Jun 90 14:58:00 GMT From: astroatc!nicmad!madnix!deety!rat@speedy.wisc.edu (David Douthitt) Subject: Madison Computer and CP/M for CBM 8032 Message-ID: Unless I'm mistaken, Madison Computer is out of business. I'll check around up here for you - SOMEONE must have knowledge of this CP/M board. ...david (from Madison, Wisconsin -- an alternative to reality) -- ====== David Douthitt ======== aka "The Stainless Steel Rat" ==== UUCP: uwvax!astroatc!nicmad!madnix!deety!rat InterNet: madnix!deety!rat@spool.cs.wisc.edu Home of Mad Apple Forth and the Tiger Toolbox -- Apple II Forever! Have you hugged your CP/M today? ------------------------------ Date: 20 Jun 90 10:15:10 PDT (Wednesday) From: Sprague.WBST311@Xerox.COM Subject: Xerox 820 CP/M System Disk Needed. Message-ID: <900620-103502-5267@Xerox> Does anyone have a copy of the original Xerox 820 System Disk? I am attempting to help Ms. Dibrell set up an old 820 System, but she does not have a CP/M System disk for it ... and for that matter, neither do I. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Does anyone know if the utilities on the Xerox 820-II CP/M System Disk will cause problems if run on a Xerox 820? ~ Mike ARPA: Sprague.Wbst311@Xerox.Com MsgTool: 2455.25220356560.0 ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V90 Issue #104 ************************************* 22-Jun-90 16:57:58-MDT,4723;000000000000 Mail-From: KPETERSEN created at 22-Jun-90 16:48:04 Return-Path: Date: Fri, 22 Jun 90 16:48:03 MDT From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V90 #105 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Message-ID: <900622164804.V90N105@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> INFO-CPM Digest Fri, 22 Jun 90 Volume 90 : Issue 105 Today's Topics: Help !! INFO-CPM Digest V90 #104 - Coleco ADAM PD software Looking or CPM to DOS conversion... WordStar 3.3 and HP LaserJet ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 18 Jun 90 11:49 From: "The green Frosch" Subject: Help !! Message-ID: <"90-06-18-11:49:29.19*UK22"@DKAUNI2.BITNET> > Hi.. this is my first post to comp.os.cpm and so inevitably it's a query. I > have just given a good home to an ICL model 36 PC. This runs CCP/M-86, has an > 8088 proccessor, 720k floppy drive & 10Mb internal hard drive. It came with al l > the manuals (luckily) and some useful software. the Big Question is... can I > get any more software for this machine, does anybody know WHERE particularly i n > the UK, are there any PD sources that I can reasonably access etc.etc > Somebody please point me in the right direction.. I have a whole 7Meg on m y > hard disk just waiting to be used up :->> Hi... I am using a SIEMENS PC 16-11 that runs also under CCP/M-86. It has two 720 K Drives and a 32 MB Harddisk (:-) ). There is not very much of PD-Software, but i have a few compilers , which came from Digital- Research. I phoned to DR to get newer Versions, but DR doesn't sell these Compilers or any other Software for CCPM-86 anymore... So I think they are PD, or not? The software i wrote for this machine uses features of the Siemens, so i think, it will not run on your machine... But if you want to look for it... o_o (---) _-/\_/\-_ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Jun 90 19:30:07 PDT From: johnlee@pnet01.cts.com (John Wiley) Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V90 #104 - Coleco ADAM PD software Message-ID: <009388BFE57EF420.00000111@dcs.simpact.com> If you would be interested, I could email you an EEencoded .ARC file of the ADAMDISK program I recently announced. I have no idea how to get it to SIMTEL from here, but thought that might be a good place for it to end up. If you have any comments or ideas, I'd appreciate hearing from you. At present, I have 3 files for ADAMDISK: .COM, .PAS, .DOC - and in addition I wrote another program last nite: ADAMAKER.COM in debug. It will take a PC or MS-DOS single sided 8 sector/track disk, and make it into a bootable ADAM "DOS" Disk Manager disk. I made this one in response to local requests from people who have ADAMs, and who damaged or lost their ADAM disks. The program would be of no real use to anyone who doesn't own an ADAM with disk drive. Please let me know if you'd like me to email any of these files to you in UUE format. Thanks for your help. Views expressed are my own. UUCP: {hplabs!hp-sdd, sdcsvax, nosc}!crash!pnet01!johnlee ARPA: crash!pnet01!johnlee@nosc.mil (John Wiley - San Diego, CA.) INET: johnlee@pnet01.CTS.COM ------------------------------ Date: 22 Jun 90 15:37:00 GMT From: swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!brutus.cs.uiuc.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!uxa.cso.uiuc.edu!rkg11213@ucsd.edu Subject: Looking or CPM to DOS conversion... Message-ID: <49600003@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> I am looking for software packages to convert from CPM to MS-DOS. Any suggestions?o ------------------------------ Date: 18 Jun 90 11:59:35 GMT From: usc!samsung!munnari.oz.au!metro!ipso!stcns3!dave@ucsd.edu (Dave Horsfall) Subject: WordStar 3.3 and HP LaserJet Message-ID: <2985@stcns3.stc.oz.AU> Since my current laser printer has packed it in (Diablo 630 compatible), I am about to take delivery of a 2nd-hand HP LaserJet. It then occurred to me that perhaps WordStar 3.3 is not familiar with this beast... It certainly is not in the WINSTALL menu! Advice please? Can I simply use the Custom Printer menu and hack it in? Note that I don't know the HP protocol at all... I need to know, like, yesterday, if I'm taking the printer... -- Dave Horsfall (VK2KFU) Alcatel STC Australia dave@stcns3.stc.oz.AU dave%stcns3.stc.oz.AU@uunet.UU.NET ...munnari!stcns3.stc.oz.AU!dave ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V90 Issue #105 ************************************* 23-Jun-90 23:22:13-MDT,8154;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Sat, 23 Jun 90 23:15:12 MDT From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V90 #106 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Message-ID: <900623231513.V90N106@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> INFO-CPM Digest Sat, 23 Jun 90 Volume 90 : Issue 106 Today's Topics: CP/M 80 v.3.0 O.S. Editors, Microcornucopia Help !! Looking or CPM to DOS conversion... (2 msgs) SIMTEL-20 (2 msgs) UZI WordStar 3.3 and HP LaserJet ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 23 Jun 90 10:02:57 GMT From: ncrlnk!ncrarg!ncrlasa!gvelasco@uunet.uu.net (Guillermo.Velasco@BuenosAires.NCR.AR) Subject: CP/M 80 v.3.0 O.S. Message-ID: <282@ncrlasa.BuenosAires.NCR.AR> I am looking for a list of tools and applications available for CP/M 80 O.S. (Commodore 128 Version). I actually have WordStar, dBase III, Turbo Pascal v.3.0 and an unknown version of COBOL. I 'm also looking for a tool that can let me transfer files between PC DOS and CP/M O.S. as the files that the applications listed above have the same format in both operating systems and is my intention to transfer them between two machines. Please answer to my individual addresse because sometimes I have problems to receive news. Thank you in advance. -- Guillermo Velaco | MAILplus: Guillermo.Velasco@BuenosAires Financial Analyst | PHONE: (54 1) 790-1015/1017 NCR - LASA | FAX: (54 1) 795-6345 (CEMS: LASA) Buenos Aires, Argentina | UUCP: ...!uunet!ncrlnk!ncrarg!ncrlasa!gvelasco ------------------------------ Date: 20 Jun 90 03:23:28 GMT From: unmvax!ariel.unm.edu!carina.unm.edu!wranum@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Falcon) Subject: Editors, Microcornucopia Message-ID: <1990Jun20.032328.20112@ariel.unm.edu> ...I've never heard of Microcornucopia - could you please tell us uninformed (I say "us"; I *hope* I'm not the only one) what it is? Is the editor better/ worse than VDE 2.66, for example? Is it PD, shareware, or commercial, or what? Tnx... Always looking for something better. Somebody needs to port Emacs and vi over to 2.2. / Falcon (wranum@carina.unm.edu) M ============ \ | "If it moves, shoot it; if it keeps | / \ | | moving, RUN." | /-------> | +------------------------------------------+ / \ nK1e bYt0rZ | UK22@DKAUNI2.BITNET ("The green Frosch") writes: > Research. I phoned to DR to get newer Versions, but DR doesn't sell > these Compilers or any other Software for CCPM-86 anymore... > So I think they are PD, or not? The software i wrote for this machine They are not. Copyright (not to mention the insane license agreement) does not expire when something is no longer sold. When a publisher quits printing a book, does it's copyright expire? You might call DR and ask if they'll permit you to make copies on a no-profit basis, or if they'll release it (hahaha....) into public domain. (Remember, these people wanted $350 for CP/M-86, which is why everyone wrote for the $60 PC-DOS.) > uses features of the Siemens, so i think, it will not run on your > machine... Probably true, but the source code would be a great starting point for someone else.... Gary Heston, at home.... ------------------------------ Date: 23 Jun 90 01:06:17 GMT From: hub.ucsb.edu!crmeyer@ucsd.edu Subject: Looking or CPM to DOS conversion... Message-ID: <5859@hub.ucsb.edu> In article <49600003@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu>, rkg11213@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu writes... > >I am looking for software packages to convert from CPM to MS-DOS. >Any suggestions? 22DISK by Sydex is a great shareware product that converts, formats, and copies CP/M <-> DOS for a huge number of CP/M machines. The software works very well and is simple to use. Their adress is: Sydex 153 N. Murphy Ave Sunnyvale, CA 94086 408-739-4866 ------------------------------ Date: 23 Jun 90 16:51:37 GMT From: eru!luth!sunic!mcsun!ukc!axion!tharr!pm111@BLOOM-BEACON.MIT.EDU (Paul Martin) Subject: Looking or CPM to DOS conversion... Message-ID: <795@tharr.UUCP> In article <49600003@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> rkg11213@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu writes: > >I am looking for software packages to convert from CPM to MS-DOS. >Any suggestions? You could try 22DISK from Sydex -- it's shareware, and can be downloaded from most bulletin boards. -- If life is just a bowl of cherries, you'd better watch out for the stones. Paul Martin. pm111@tharr.uucp INTERNET: pm111%tharr.uucp@ukc.ac.uk ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Jun 90 01:06 CDT From: Doctor WHO <99626176@UWPLATT.EDU> Subject: SIMTEL-20 Message-ID: <76528DAF619FE0015B@uwplatt.edu> Frank, Thanks for clearing up the fact that SIMTEL-20 is not gone for our purposes. But I'm still somewhat confused about it. Do you just mean that because of the budget cut that it is not long maintained full time but that it is once in a while and that we can still get the stuff from it that was already there? You mentioned still being able to get to it via RPIECS, etc. but can we still FTP to it? Cory Hug ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Jun 1990 09:37 MDT From: "Frank J. Wancho" Subject: SIMTEL-20 Message-ID: Do you just mean that because of the budget cut that it is not long maintained full time but that it is once in a while and that we can still get the stuff from it that was already there? Yes. You mentioned still being able to get to it via RPIECS, etc. but can we still FTP to it? Yes. --Frank ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Jun 90 23:20:55 PDT From: cwr@pnet01.cts.com (Will Rose) Subject: UZI Message-ID: <009389A132590060.00000111@dcs.simpact.com> Sorry for the broadband, but email bounced. If James Slayden still needs UZI, I have a copy. Good luck - Will ----------------------------------------------------------------------- "If heaven too had passions | Will Rose even heaven would | UUCP: {nosc ucsd hplabs!hp-sdd}!crash!pnet01!cw grow old." - Li Ho. | ARPA: crash!pnet01!cwr@nosc.mil | INET: cwr@pnet01.cts.com UUCP: {nosc ucsd hplabs!hp-sdd}!crash!pnet01!cwr ARPA: crash!pnet01!cwr@nosc.mil INET: cwr@pnet01.cts.com ------------------------------ Date: 23 Jun 90 01:31:37 GMT From: sci34hub!cdthq!gary@uunet.uu.net (gary) Subject: WordStar 3.3 and HP LaserJet Message-ID: dave@stcns3.stc.oz.AU (Dave Horsfall) writes: > Since my current laser printer has packed it in (Diablo 630 compatible), > I am about to take delivery of a 2nd-hand HP LaserJet. It then occurred > to me that perhaps WordStar 3.3 is not familiar with this beast... It > certainly is not in the WINSTALL menu! > > Advice please? Can I simply use the Custom Printer menu and hack it in? > Note that I don't know the HP protocol at all... I need to know, like, > yesterday, if I'm taking the printer... The LaserJet should have several emulation modes that WS can recognize one of. Almost certainly, it'll have a Epson clone and may even have a 630 clone... Gary Heston, at home.... ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V90 Issue #106 ************************************* 24-Jun-90 22:25:02-MDT,8485;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Sun, 24 Jun 90 22:15:09 MDT From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V90 #107 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Message-ID: <900624221511.V90N107@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> INFO-CPM Digest Sun, 24 Jun 90 Volume 90 : Issue 107 Today's Topics: Anyone still remember the Seagate ST-506 hard drive? Editors, Microcornucopia INFO-CPM DIGEST whereabouts? (2 msgs) Looking or CPM to DOS conversion... Micro-emacs? SOL-20 UZI (I didn't recieve it yet) WordStar 3.3 and HP LaserJet ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 25 Jun 90 02:20:36 GMT From: tindle@g.ms.uky.edu (Ken Tindle) Subject: Anyone still remember the Seagate ST-506 hard drive? Message-ID: <15505@s.ms.uky.edu> I took a Seagate ST-506 hard drive out of a DEC Rainbow 100 with a dead A-B floppy drive set- my intention was to try it out with a WD XT-GEN controller in an IBM XT. I thought it was ten Meg- looks like it isn't. I wouldn't post this, except that I had a problem while trying to low- level format that I never saw before, and would like to understand. I doubt this old drive is big enough by today's standards to be much force. Anyway, what I got was this: there is a lever on the side of the drive connected to the head stepper, so one can "see" the heads move. At the start of formatting, I put my finger lightly on this lever, hearing and feeling the step, step, as I expected; except the lever did not move for 128 steps. Then it would move forward. It seemed to be trying to move backward past track zero for the first 128 times, in other words. The gold-plated question is: why? In case I bump up against this again, I'd like to know. And, I suppose if I really expect to use the drive, I need to know the total number of cylinders, heads, starting reduced write current and write precomp cylinder. Anyone have a chart of Seagate drive specs, or know where I could call or write to get this data? It's amazing how much power these old drives eat! This one's more quiet than I remember these old full-height drives as being, though. Cheers. --------------------------\ /----------------------------------------------- INTERNET:tindle@ms.uky.edu | "Could you please continue the petty bickering? BITNET: tindle@ukma.bitnet | I find it most intriguing." --- Data, Ken Tindle - Lexington, KY | Star Trek, The Next Generation, "Haven" --------------------------/ \----------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: 25 Jun 90 00:50:32 GMT From: mcdchg!chinet!chaz@rutgers.edu (Charlie Kestner) Subject: Editors, Microcornucopia Message-ID: <1990Jun25.005032.10544@chinet.chi.il.us> In article <1990Jun20.032328.20112@ariel.unm.edu> wranum@carina.unm.edu (Falcon) writes: .stuff deleted... >Tnx... Always looking for something better. Somebody needs to port Emacs and >vi over to 2.2. > Someone already HAS orted EMacs (kinda) over to 2.2 - it's available (I should say "KIND of available"!) as either Mince (you can get it from) C Users Group in Kansas - needs BDS-C to compile), Perfect Writer (can't buy it legally anymore, but...), or Pmate (ditto on the buy it business). Mince is emacs-LIKE. You get the identical command structure, but the macro facility is limited. There is no toggling between command mode, and text entry, it's basically text entry, and you can make a one-line macro (but you can't SAVE your macros). Perfect Writer is the same as Scribble. All Perfect did was to combine SMince and Scribble (a formatter) along with a menu and a spell-checker, and call the whole ting Perfect{ Writer. OTOH, Pmate DOES let you toggle between command and text-entry mode. I understand it's not being sold anymore, but have seen some traffic about it being made available as Zmate (Pmate that understands Z3). ------------------------------ Date: 23 Jun 90 02:08:01 GMT From: mcdchg!chinet!chaz@rutgers.edu (Charlie Kestner) Subject: INFO-CPM DIGEST whereabouts? Message-ID: <1990Jun23.020801.4457@chinet.chi.il.us> I keep seeing referrals to an INFO-CPM DIGEST, but I cannnot find this critter on the 'net. (I CAN find the IBM-PC version in it's own newsgroup, but not the CP/M one.) Halllllp! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Jun 1990 18:23 MDT From: "Frank J. Wancho" Subject: INFO-CPM DIGEST whereabouts? Message-ID: Charlie, INFO-CPM Digest gets its feed from comp.os.cpm and directly sent messages. It is distributed only to the Internet. The individual messages sent to INFO-CPM not originating from comp.os.cpm are sent to comp.os.cpm. INFO-IBMPC is an original feed from the Internet, exists only in digest form, and appears as a moderated newsgroup on the usenet side. --Frank ------------------------------ Date: 24 Jun 90 17:07:20 GMT From: idunno!njsmu!mccc!ajh@louie.udel.edu (Alan J. Holsberg) Subject: Looking or CPM to DOS conversion... Message-ID: <1990Jun24.170720.625@mccc.uucp> Would this work with the kaypro10? I have been trying to find a way to be able to use MS-DOS on this machine. Please e-mail me any info that could be helpfull. Thank you. Signed Me!! Alan -- Alan Holsberg E-MAIL- UUCP {...!rutgers!}princeton!mccc!ajh I have no intention of telling you my real name! Disclaimer: MCCC has no knowledge of me, so they don't care what I say!! ------------------------------ Date: 24 Jun 90 04:47:15 GMT From: cs.utexas.edu!usc!samsung!crackers!m2c!wpi!ggray@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu (Gary P Gray) Subject: Micro-emacs? Message-ID: <13637@wpi.wpi.edu> I was just wondering (with all of this talk about editors) Has anyone tried to compile a version of micro-emacs for CP/M? Just how "micro" is micro-emacs anyway? -- -- WARNING!!! The above opinions may be HAZARDOUS or FATAL if swallowed!!! -- "Way back in 68 every thing was so >> Gary Gray -- ggray@wpi.wpi.edu<< great no way wrong date keep up the trade balance charade close circuit truth used to remove keep the camera alive" ------------------------------ Date: 24 Jun 90 07:59:23 GMT From: fernwood!portal!cup.portal.com!Lance_W_Rund@decwrl.dec.com Subject: SOL-20 Message-ID: <31112@cup.portal.com> Hi... I just found a pristine-condition SOL-20 (the machine I first learned on... those were the days), and I am looking for a few things to make it run: Northstar disk drive System documentation System software (Northstar DOS, and Northstar BASIC would be ideal) ANY other software I have a Northstar MicroDisk Controller MDC-A4... am looking for any info on my system, the drives, etc. I don't need the original documentation, copies will do nicely... Thanks... --lance rund ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ | insert your own trailer here | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: 24 Jun 90 13:33:42 GMT From: amelia!prandtl.nas.nasa.gov!slayden@ames.arc.nasa.gov (James B. Slayden) Subject: UZI (I didn't recieve it yet) Message-ID: <6921@amelia.nas.nasa.gov> I got some garbled mail that had the title of UZI. I haven't recieved a copy form anyone yet. I tried to find it at SIMTEL20 with no luck. I would appreciate it if someone could send me all need for implementation Thanks again. James B. SLayden ------------------------------ Date: 22 Jun 90 06:27:32 GMT From: mcdchg!chinet!chaz@rutgers.edu (Charlie Kestner) Subject: WordStar 3.3 and HP LaserJet Message-ID: <1990Jun22.062732.9587@chinet.chi.il.us> You can hand patch WS, but you'll need a sector editor (PATCH or something similar), and the listing of WordStar patch-points (last file I saw was named WSBIBLE2.DOC). ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V90 Issue #107 ************************************* 25-Jun-90 15:28:22-MDT,9250;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Mon, 25 Jun 90 15:15:34 MDT From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V90 #108 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Message-ID: <900625151536.V90N108@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> INFO-CPM Digest Mon, 25 Jun 90 Volume 90 : Issue 108 Today's Topics: 22DSK by Sydex Anyone still remember the Seagate ST-506 hard drive? DEC Rainbow users? Looking or CPM to DOS conversion... More ST-506 drive woes... Needed: ADAPTEC 4000A disk controller ! ST-506 data ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 25 Jun 90 08:45 EDT From: Cooking Foil Subject: 22DSK by Sydex An non-licensed/PD version of 22DSK is available in Simtel directory . I think it is now 22DSK133.ZIP. Of course, it is just a disk format converter (transferification), and not an objet code translator... :-) -John ------------------------------ Date: 25 Jun 90 06:43:26 GMT From: hub.ucsb.edu!crmeyer@ucsd.edu Subject: Anyone still remember the Seagate ST-506 hard drive? Message-ID: <5864@hub.ucsb.edu> In article <15505@s.ms.uky.edu>, tindle@ms.uky.edu (Ken Tindle) writes... >I took a Seagate ST-506 hard drive out of a DEC Rainbow 100 >..... I need to know the >total number of cylinders, heads, starting reduced write current and >write precomp cylinder. Segate St-506 5 MByte Capacity 153 Cylinders 4 Heads 128 Reduced write current 128 write precomp cylinder 17 sectors per track +-----------------------------------+ | Charles R. Meyer | | | | Internet: crmeyer@voodoo.ucsb.edu | | Bitnet: crmeyer@voodoo | | HEPnet: voodoo::crmeyer | +-----------------------------------+ ------------------------------ Date: 25 Jun 90 19:59:11 GMT From: md33+@andrew.cmu.edu (Marek J. Druzdzel) Subject: DEC Rainbow users? Message-ID: Hi, I just bought a DEC Rainbow for a bargain price and would like to use it as an intelligent terminal from my home. Rainbow has a terminal mode, but it does not seem to be intelligent (i.e. up and downloading files from the host, using the programming features of the modem, etc.). What I need is a good terminal program. I have no technical documentation necessary for writing one. Does anybody have a terminal program for Rainbow? Another question is: Does anybody have software for reading/writing PC 360K floppies on Rainbow? Rainbow has MS-DOS and 400K floppies - it must be technically possible. Any other tips for a beginning owner? Thanks for your responses, Marek ------------------------------ Date: 25 Jun 90 20:52:30 GMT From: cgdra.cgd.ucar.edu!steele@handies.ucar.edu (Alfred Steele) Subject: Looking or CPM to DOS conversion... Message-ID: <7782@ncar.ucar.edu> In article <49600003@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> rkg11213@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu writes: > >I am looking for software packages to convert from CPM to MS-DOS. >Any suggestions?o Yes I would also like info if anyone has solved this problem. Please e-mail to save net resources. Thanks in advance: Alfred Steele ------------------------------ Date: 25 Jun 90 16:42:29 GMT From: tindle@g.ms.uky.edu (Ken Tindle) Subject: More ST-506 drive woes... Message-ID: <15514@s.ms.uky.edu> I'd like to start off by thanking these kind folks for their help: Brian Kantor Alex Nghiem Ed Grey Larry Jones Dave Goodman Kevin Strietzel Seems there *are* still people who remember old hard disk drives :-)! I not only have complete specs on the ST-506 now, but a WD BBS that has other drive type info too. OK, Brian informs me that an XT-GEN controller is able to handle drives with buffered seeks only, and the ST-506 is too stupid to be able to do this (makes sense, you ought to see the old stuff on this thing's servo board). So, I have an IBM XT controller that *will* work, BUT... There's no way to start a low-level format! Does anyone have, or know where to get, a formatter for these original IBM controllers? Please don't tell me to call IBM; trust me, they could not possibly care less about this old stuff! I know, because I have dealt with them in the past. If I can't find a real live person with some hacker blood, I'll be out of luck on this one. In article <10984@netcom.UUCP> onymouse@netcom.UUCP (John Debert) writes: >I had to attach a second power supply to one of the drive units where >I changed one SA-604 to a ST-506 cos it kept going shutting down. >At least it is quieter than the SA-604 - except for the vibration. Yes, it vibrates a PClone keyboard through the table enough to make the plastic case rattle like mad! Go, baby, go! Cheers. --------------------------\ /----------------------------------------------- INTERNET:tindle@ms.uky.edu | "Could you please continue the petty bickering? BITNET: tindle@ukma.bitnet | I find it most intriguing." --- Data, Ken Tindle - Lexington, KY | Star Trek, The Next Generation, "Haven" --------------------------/ \----------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jun 90 23:31:18 IST From: "Jacques J. Goldberg" Subject: Needed: ADAPTEC 4000A disk controller ! Anybody out there with such a SCSI disk controller in working condition, willing to get rid of it for a reasonable price? Jacques Goldberg phr00jg@technion.bitnet ^^ ||__ 2 zeroes !! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jun 90 04:18:30 -0400 From: ac959@cleveland.Freenet.Edu Subject: ST-506 data Message-ID: <9006250818.AA09557@cwns10.INS.CWRU.Edu> >Date: 25 Jun 90 02:20:36 GMT >From: tindle@g.ms.uky.edu (Ken Tindle) >Subject: Anyone still remember the Seagate ST-506 hard drive? >Message-ID: <15505@s.ms.uky.edu> >And, I suppose if I really expect to use the drive, I need to know the >total number of cylinders, heads, starting reduced write current and >write precomp cylinder. Anyone have a chart of Seagate drive specs, or >know where I could call or write to get this data? The following is an excerpt from ALLSPEX.LBR which list the specs of many of the Seagate line of hard drives. It is available on my RCP/M. I hope that this is what you need. Take care. ********************************* ST - 506 UNFORMATTED CAPACITY (MB) ________________6.38 FORMATTED CAPACITY (32 SECTORS) (MB) _____5.0 ACTUATOR TYPE ____________________________STEPPER TRACKS ___________________________________612 CYLINDERS ________________________________153 HEADS ____________________________________4 DISCS ____________________________________2 MEDIA TYPE _______________________________OXIDE RECORDING METHOD _________________________MFM TRANSFER RATE (mbits/sec) ________________5.0 INTERFACE ________________________________ST506 TPI (TRACKS PER INCH) ____________________255 BPI (BITS PER INCH) ______________________7,690 AVERAGE ACCESS (ms) ______________________85 SINGLE TRACK SEEK (ms) ___________________3 MTBF (power-on hours) ____________________11,000 POWER REQUIREMENTS: +12V START-UP (amps) _3.5 +12V TYPICAL (amps) __1.6 +5V TYPICAL (amps) ___0.7 TYPICAL (watts) ______22.7 MAXIMUM (watts) ______47 BUFFERED STEP PULSE RATE (micro sec) _____3 ms ONLY WRITE PRECOMP (cyl) ______________________128 REDUCED WRITE CURRENT (cyl) ______________128 LANDING ZONE (cyl)________________________157 IBM AT DRIVE TYPE ________________________N/A ****************************** -- Ed Grey (ac959), Sysop of The Grey Matter BBS & RCP/M 213-9716260 Internet: ac959@cleveland.freenet.edu Bitnet: ac959%cleveland.freenet.edu@cunyvm Fidonet: 1:102/752 or 1:102/743 ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V90 Issue #108 ************************************* 26-Jun-90 15:35:09-MDT,10675;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Tue, 26 Jun 90 15:15:25 MDT From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V90 #109 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Message-ID: <900626151526.V90N109@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> INFO-CPM Digest Tue, 26 Jun 90 Volume 90 : Issue 109 Today's Topics: BD Systems C compiler CP/M 80 v.3.0. O.S. DEC Rainbow Looking or CPM to DOS conversion... Modem: MNP (level 4) to MNP (level 5) simple question, I think Where to call for hard disk specs ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 24 Jun 90 22:59:30 GMT From: unmvax!ariel.unm.edu!carina.unm.edu!wranum@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Falcon) Subject: BD Systems C compiler Message-ID: <1990Jun24.225930.1924@ariel.unm.edu> ...Does anybody know where I could upgrade BDS-C 1.31 to whatever the newest revision is? I've ftp'd everything out of the BDS-C directories and while it appears to contain lots of revisions to the libraries and things, I havn't been able to compile much of anything due to the very old and bug-laden version of the compiler that I have... Does anybody know where I can upgrade the actual executable compiler (CC.COM and CC2.COM) to version 1.51 or whatever the newest version is, and how much it's going to cost me? Tnx... / Falcon (wranum@carina.unm.edu) M ============ \ | "If it moves, shoot it; if it keeps | / \ | | moving, RUN." | /-------> | +------------------------------------------+ / \ nK1e bYt0rZ | I am looking for a list of tools and applications available for CP/M 80 O.S. (Commodore 128 Version). I actually have WordStar, dBase III, Turbo Pascal v.3.0 and an unknown version of COBOL. I 'm also looking for a tool that can let me transfer files between PC DOS and CP/M O.S. as the files that the applications listed above have the same format in both operating systems and is my intention to transfer them between two machines. Please answer to my individual addresse because sometimes I have problems to receive news. Thank you in advance. -- Guillermo Velasco | MAILplus: Guillermo.Velasco@BuenosAires Financial Analyst | PHONE: (54 1) 790-1015/1017 NCR - LASA | FAX: (54 1) 795-6345 (CEMS: LASA) Buenos Aires, Argentina | UUCP: ...!uunet!ncrlnk!ncrarg!ncrlasa!gvelasco ------------------------------ Date: Mon 25 Jun 90 18:53:16-EST From: John C Klensin Subject: DEC Rainbow Message-ID: <646354396.810000.KLENSIN@INFOODS.MIT.EDU> Marek (md33+@andrew.cmu.edu) writes: >Rainbow has a terminal mode, but it does not seem to be >intelligent (i.e. up and downloading files from the host, >using the programming features of the modem, etc.). In terminal mode, it is a VT102 with a funny keyboard. Period. > What I need is a good terminal program. I have no technical >documentation necessary for writing one. Does anybody >have a terminal program for Rainbow? There are good versions of kermit and all the usual other things available for this machine. Most of them provide VT10x emulation, with some ability to use the bigger keyboard, and whatever file transfer things come with them. These should be in the archives. >Another question is: Does anybody have software for >reading/writing PC 360K floppies on Rainbow? Rainbow >has MS-DOS and 400K floppies - it must be technically >possible. Not a chance. That cute little diskette drive you are looking at--into which both diskettes go "write side out", has only one motor and one set of heads *per diskette*. So, it is 400Kb single-sided, in its own unique format. There is software around that will run on AT-class MessDOS machines that use 1.2Mb floppies that will write and read the Rainbow 80 track single sided format (we've had pretty good success with MediaMaster (tm)). And you should note that the Rainbow has special firmware that permits it to read *single-sided* standard PC diskettes (180K), which can be recorded on any PC. It can sort of write them, too, subject to the restrictions about writing on a narrow-headed machine for a wide-headed machine (e.g., the diskette should be *very* blank before you start, but formatted on the wide-headed machine). Reading doesn't take anything special, just format the disks single sided in the IBM environment, write on them, put the diskette into the Rainbow, and read or copy as usual. But there is no way to read or write an IBM 360K diskette on the Rainbow--not enough heads in the right places. And no way to write or read Rainbow diskettes on an IBM 360K drive--not enough tracks. Various third-party vendors make, or used to make, IBM-compatible 360Kb drives that could be attached to the Rainbow, but they are--or used to be-- sufficiently expensive that parking an IBM clone next to the Rainbow as a diskette device and running a serial wire between them was often a more cost-effective solution. --john klensin Klensin@MIT.EDU ------- ------------------------------ Date: 24 Jun 90 23:05:03 GMT From: unmvax!ariel.unm.edu!carina.unm.edu!wranum@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Falcon) Subject: Looking or CPM to DOS conversion... Message-ID: <1990Jun24.230503.2068@ariel.unm.edu> In article <795@tharr.UUCP> pm111@tharr.UUCP (Paul Martin) writes: > >You could try 22DISK from Sydex -- it's shareware, and can be downloaded >from most bulletin boards. ...If this program is indeed shareware, could somebody either post it to a public-access FTP site or mail it to me? There aren't any CP/M BBSs in/around Albuquerque for many miles; it would be most appreciated... / Falcon (wranum@carina.unm.edu) M ============ \ | "If it moves, shoot it; if it keeps | / \ | | moving, RUN." | /-------> | +------------------------------------------+ / \ nK1e bYt0rZ | Subject: MNP level 4 to MNP level 5 I am using an EMEX 2400EC modem which supports MNP level 4. Whenever I call to an HST modem with MNP level 5 I cannot connect with error correction (MNP). It is my belief that when 2 modems that support MNP are attempting to connect, they should step down until they reach a level of MNP that is supported by both modems. I can connect to PC-Pursuit with MNP error correction and they only support up to level 3. I can also cause PC-P's outdial modems connect to an HST (MNP level 5) modem. I just cannot make my modem connect directly with an HST (level 5). Any suggestions? MNP, up to level 4, is supposed to useful in using modems over dirty phone lines. Sometimes my line get quite noisy and it would be useful to be able to use this feature. Thanks in advance. NOTE: The modem is manufactured by INCOMM DATA SYSTEMS, INC. and I'm using it on a TeleVideo TS803H CP/M system. -- Ed Grey (ac959), Sysop of The Grey Matter BBS & RCP/M 213-9716260 Internet: ac959@cleveland.freenet.edu Bitnet: ac959%cleveland.freenet.edu@cunyvm Fidonet: 1:102/752 or 1:102/743 ------------------------------ Date: 26 Jun 90 19:22:38 GMT From: sk1v+@andrew.cmu.edu (Susan Alane Keim) Subject: simple question, I think Message-ID: Hello all -- I posted a problem before where my father suddenly couldn't print anything on his Televideo (CP/M 2.2) and line printer. I was told to try PIP to see where the problem was. First, the machine says there is not enough memory for this, although PIP is on the system software disk that came with the machine. Anyway, all of the sudden, the danm thing prints. Is this possibly dependent on the order that the two machines are turned on (printer and computer)? A friend suggested that one may need to be on in order to init the other to it's existance. This makes sense, but I am not sure it is true in this case. Does anyone know if this could actually have been the problem and, if so, which needs to be turned on first? Thank you very much. Please e-mail to me; don't post. Susie Keim sk1v+@andrew.cmu.edu ------------------------------ Date: 26 Jun 90 12:44:53 GMT From: tindle@g.ms.uky.edu (Ken Tindle) Subject: Where to call for hard disk specs Message-ID: <15524@s.ms.uky.edu> It occurs to me, while I was looking for specs this week on an old hard disk drive, that maybe others would like to have this: ----- From: Alex Nghiem Call up Western Digital. Look them up in 1 800 555 1212 information. They have a BBS with all the specs you need. ----- From: Dave Goodman You might also want to know that Seagate has a BBS with all their drive specs posted... 408-438-8771. ----- This might be of enough general interest to post; I hope so, since that's what I've done! Cheers, --------------------------\ /----------------------------------------------- INTERNET:tindle@ms.uky.edu | "Could you please continue the petty bickering? BITNET: tindle@ukma.bitnet | I find it most intriguing." --- Data, Ken Tindle - Lexington, KY | Star Trek, The Next Generation, "Haven" --------------------------/ \----------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V90 Issue #109 ************************************* 29-Jun-90 10:32:03-MDT,8871;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Fri, 29 Jun 90 10:15:44 MDT From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V90 #110 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Message-ID: <900629101546.V90N110@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> INFO-CPM Digest Fri, 29 Jun 90 Volume 90 : Issue 110 Today's Topics: ADAPTEC 4000A Disk Controller dBaseII Does Still Exist! Kaypro stuff Startup screens, edit macros terminal programs for DEC Rainbow Turbo Dos Uploads to Simtel20 UZI for Z80 Wordstar to Ascii. Xerox 820 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 28 Jun 90 10:43 EDT From: "Bill Weinel" Subject: ADAPTEC 4000A Disk Controller > Anybody out there with such a SCSI disk controller in working condition, > willing to get rid of it for a reasonable price? > > Jacques Goldberg Jacques, Have you tried Computer Surplus Store? They have the 4000A in stock for a quite reasonable price. Call them at 1-408-434-0377 for the latest pricing info.. but I think they were around $90. (BTW: I am not affiliated with CSS or making any advertising claim on this other than my personal experience in previously purchasing one from them.) I hope this information is useful.. TWYL Bill ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Jun 90 11:58:36 EDT From: "Paul V. Pullen" Subject: dBaseII Does Still Exist! Message-ID: <9006291158.aa26365@CRDEC2.APGEA.ARMY.MIL> dBaseII does still exist. Ashton-Tate has a stock of version 2.43* that is only in need of a dealer to handle it for us to be able to get it for our CP/M machines. I have, by hook and crook, obtained a new copy of version 2.43*. I hope we can come out with a sales organization to enable CP/Mers to continue using this fine product. I have been in contact with a supplier who will supply to US Government related users, and have been informed that they will supply it as long as Ashton-Tate has it in stock. Stephanie Wright of A-T says it is in stock, and has, as I said, supplied me with a copy. If you are interested, and are in any way connected with Uncle Sam (including some University or Educational organizations), contact GTSI at (703) 631-3333. GTSI will supply even small quantities to Government related organizations while they can get it. If your use is non-government, contact Ashton-Tate's Customer Relations Department at (213)329-9989. If we can get a CP/M related organization to handle the sales, we may be able to reopen the supply. My lunches have been used up trying to open this channel of other CP/Mers. I think it is a well that is worth trying to tap. Paul Pullen ---------------------------------- Paul Pullen United States Army Chemical Research, Development and Engineering Center pvpullen@crdec2.apgea.army.mil (301) 671-2519 /(301) 671-4174 ---------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: 28 Jun 90 21:08:53 GMT From: apctrc!drd!mike@uunet.uu.net (Mike Rovak) Subject: Kaypro stuff Message-ID: <1990Jun28.210853.24142@DRD.Com> Will the person who inquired about the Kaypro hardware mods please give me some help by specifying a sig I can access successfully to reply by email. I think you are local but I'm not sure. The value of my entire system is not great enough to split it up. Make me an offer for the whole enchilada. I may take it, especially if you're local. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Disclaimer: My opinions do not necessarily reflect those of my employer. ======================================================================== mike@DRD.Com DRD Corporation uunet!apctrc!drd!mike (918) 743-3013 ======================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: 29 Jun 90 06:50:14 GMT From: mcsun!cernvax!chx400!ethz!ethz-inf!lavi.uucp!wyle@uunet.uu.net (Mitchell Wyle) Subject: Startup screens, edit macros Message-ID: <27958@ethz-inf.UUCP> 1) Is there some way to tell wordstar to shut up when it starts? I get three screens and two delays before I'm allowed to type anything. I *hate* that. Same thing with my modem program (bw111). It gives screens-full of startup messages and wants to interact with me all the time. I want to tell *it* what to do, not be prompted by long-winded, *slow* delays and screen-fulls of prompts! 2) What wordstar or other edit macros do you use most? -Mitch ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Jun 90 19:10:23 GMT From: Christopher Currie (IHR) Subject: terminal programs for DEC Rainbow Message-ID: > >I just bought a DEC Rainbow for a bargain price and would >like to use it as an intelligent terminal from my home. >Rainbow has a terminal mode, but it does not seem to be >intelligent (i.e. up and downloading files from the host, >using the programming features of the modem, etc.). What >I need is a good terminal program. I have no technical >documentation necessary for writing one. Does anybody >have a terminal program for Rainbow? > MS-DOS terminal programs for the Rainbow can be obtained by Anonymous FTP from Drycas.Club.CC.CMU.EDU, directory [ANONYMOUS.INFO-DEC-MICRO.COMM]. Don't try getting them by Email; it doesn't work. CP/M Kermit is also available for the Rainbow; other CP/M terminal programs held on Simtel20 should also be configurable for it. The CPM Users' Group years ago had a whole disk of Rainbow communications software which might be somewhere in PD2: on Simtel20. Christopher ------------------------------ Date: 28 Jun 90 10:52 -0500 From: Subject: Turbo Dos Message-ID: <753*umlecla3@ccu.umanitoba.ca> If anyone is familiar with Turbo Dos, could you please drop me a line? Preferably direct to UMLECLA3@CCU.UMANITOBA.CA Thanks ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jun 90 13:44:13 GMT From: Christopher Currie (IHR) Subject: Uploads to Simtel20 Message-ID: I have uploaded to SIMTEL20: pd2: SMPSQZPR.ARK CP/M version of Simple Squeeze Print for Epson-compatible dot-matrix printers. Prints 4 80-column blocks per 11",12", or A4 page. Form feed at end of page. Will print up to 10 files in one run. Christopher ------------------------------ Date: 29 Jun 90 10:08:28 GMT From: amelia!prandtl.nas.nasa.gov!slayden@ames.arc.nasa.gov (James B. Slayden) Subject: UZI for Z80 Message-ID: <7044@amelia.nas.nasa.gov> Is there anyone out there that has tried to implement UZI on the Cambridge Z88 portable? For that matter does anyone know of a C compiler for the same? The Z88 runs off the Z80 processor with their own OS called OZ. All info will be much appreciated. James B. Slayden slayden@prandtl.nas.nasa.gov ------------------------------ Date: 28 Jun 90 20:56:24 GMT From: mcsun!ukc!warwick!nott-cs!clan.nott.ac.uk!cczdvh@uunet.uu.net (David Valentine-Hagart) Subject: Wordstar to Ascii. Message-ID: <51482@robin.cs.nott.ac.uk> I am new to Wordstar 3.3 and just wondered if there was anything in Wordstar itself to save files as plain ascii text without the control codes. ........Thanx David V-H........ eMail....cczdvh@uk.ac.nott.ccc.vme.... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Jun 90 09:40:01 PDT From: donm@pnet01.cts.com (Don Maslin) Subject: Xerox 820 Message-ID: <00938C5352E85B00.00000111@dcs.simpact.com> In an earlier e-mail, Sprague.WBST311@Xerox.COM questions whether to 'broadband' his answers to questions on the 820. Such dialog is exactly what makes the CP/M thread so valuable. I would encourage him to respond Publically and Frequently. In a related vein, is documentation for the 820 currently available from Xerox or others? UUCP: {hplabs!hp-sdd ucsd nosc}!crash!pnet01!donm ARPA: crash!pnet01!donm@nosc.mil INET: donm@pnet01.cts.com ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V90 Issue #110 *************************************