1-Mar-91 17:22:04-MST,9436;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Fri, 1 Mar 91 17:15:07 MST From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V91 #48 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Message-ID: <910301171508.V91N48@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> INFO-CPM Digest Fri, 1 Mar 91 Volume 91 : Issue 48 Today's Topics: archive site for comp.os.cpm? and misc (2 msgs) FREE ALTOS Z80: 208K RAM, 40MB HD, TAPE DRIVE, CRT, ETC. Kermit terminal emulation for CP/M Lower Price/Wordstar 4.0 Need Kaypro 2 Boot Disks Software Toolworks info... ZCPR. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 28 Feb 91 13:03:43 GMT From: vax5.cit.cornell.edu!bqsy1@cu-arpa.cs.cornell.edu (Andrew R. Orndorff) Subject: archive site for comp.os.cpm? and misc Message-ID: <1991Feb28.090343.3065@vax5.cit.cornell.edu> Hello all, I was wondering if comp.os.cpm is being archived anywhere? I've been following the discussions on connecting 5.25 and 3.5" drives to 8" systems and did not catch much of the earlier threads where detailed information seemed to be given. Also, I have a Xerox 820-II with the 8" drives and was wondering if anyone could provide me with the following information or pointers to where I might locate this info: *floppy and hard disk subsystems: what is necessary, what can I use? *tech. documentation on the hardware, ROMs and anything else *pointers to firms that produce or market processor upgrades for the 820-II, like going to a Z280 *anyone who has info on "homebrew" type alterations to this machine Thanks for any help. P.S. Is there a Xerox users group anywhere in the Northeast or Mid-Atlantic states? -- Andrew Orndorff CIT, Research & Analysis Cornell University Internet: bqsy1@vax5.cit.cornell.edu Bitnet: bqsy1@crnlvax5 ------------------------------ Date: 1 Mar 91 21:35:37 GMT From: vax5.cit.cornell.edu!jeh@cu-arpa.cs.cornell.edu Subject: archive site for comp.os.cpm? and misc Message-ID: <1991Mar1.173538.3099@vax5.cit.cornell.edu> In article <1991Feb28.090343.3065@vax5.cit.cornell.edu>, bqsy1@vax5.cit.cornell.edu (Andrew R. Orndorff) writes: > Also, I have a Xerox 820-II with the 8" drives and was wondering if > anyone could provide me with the following information or pointers to where > I might locate this info: > > *floppy and hard disk subsystems: what is necessary, what can I > use? > *tech. documentation on the hardware, ROMs and anything else > *pointers to firms that produce or market processor upgrades > for the 820-II, like going to a Z280 > *anyone who has info on "homebrew" type alterations to this > machine > > Thanks for any help. > > P.S. Is there a Xerox users group anywhere in the Northeast or Mid-Atlantic > states? You'll find all of the above rolled into one :) at Holly Park RCP/M, 201-757-1497. Dick Roberts, the sysop, will gladly sell you his 8" hard drive kits, if you really want some extra heat in your house :) Chris McEwen also runs a BBS in the same area; I don't recall the number, but I'm sure it's liberally plastered all over Dick's system. --jh -- John Hood, Mann Library, Cornell University jhood@albert.mannlib.cornell.edu, jeh@crnlvax5.bitnet, uunet!biar!jhood ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Feb 91 15:30:02 EST From: "Craig Spirka" Subject: FREE ALTOS Z80: 208K RAM, 40MB HD, TAPE DRIVE, CRT, ETC. Message-ID: <9102282031.AA13409@alw.nih.gov> I own a hardworking Altos ACS8000 MP/M (multiuser) machine, which my wife wants me to dump because it's taking up too much (guest) room. I want to find a good home for it with a fellow CP/M buff -- if they'll come to Santa Barbara, California, and haul it away. Here are the specs: It's an Altos ACS8000 with Zilog Z80 microprocessor running MP/M II (V2.1). It has an ACS 8200 Circuit Board supporting up to 4 concurrent users, with 208K of random access memory: 16K system memory, and 4 banks of 48K user memory. It has one (1) Single/Double density 8" floppy drive and a 14" Winchester 40MB Hard Drive. Also part of the free package is an Altos Magnetic Tape Unit (MTU-2, CMTD- 3400S2) to backup the hard disk onto 13.4 MB, 1/4", 450-foot, 4 track, high density magnetic tape cartridges. The MTU records data at 6400 BPI in serial recording, Modified Frequency Modulation format, at 192 Kbits/second. PLUS, a Televideo 925 monitor and TONS of: manuals, 8" floppies, tape cartridges, software on and off the hard disk -- a text editor, spell checker, mail merger, accounting system, ADVENTURE, etc. All for the low, low price of $0. Just pick it up in Santa Barbara, California, promise to love it forever, and haul it home. -Craig Spirka ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Mar 91 14:19:11 EST From: "Robert J. Rodriguez" Subject: Kermit terminal emulation for CP/M Is there a version of Kermit or Mex for CP/M on the Apple that does not lose characters at 1200 and 2400 baud? I have an enhanced Apple 2E that I'm using with a Datalink 2400 baud modem to download some CP/M stuff from an IBM mainframe at the college. The IBM does not support nulls, and requires VT100 emulation for full-screen editing. The CPM Kermit that I have is very old (maybe 5 years or more) and only supports VT52. It drops the first 3 or 4 characters of each line at 1200 or 2400 baud. I have the Apple Prodos Kermit (3.86), and it works fine, but I'd prefer a direct CP/M Kermit or Xmodem that can read binaries directly on to CP/M disks. Also, has anyone tried the MS/DOS CP/M emulators on an Apple PC Transporter? ------------------------------ Date: 28 Feb 91 14:17:52 GMT From: att!linac!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!samsung!munnari.oz.au!metro!ipso!dave@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Dave Horsfall) Subject: Lower Price/Wordstar 4.0 Message-ID: <1991Feb28.141752.4337@ips.oz.au> In article <"13-Feb-91.10:27:35.EST".*.Michael_D._Sprague.wbst311@Xerox.com> Sprague.Wbst311@xerox.com writes: | Doug, I am interested in your copy of Wordstar 4.0. | | ~ Mike (Sprague.Wbst311@Xerox.Com) No doubt. Do the WordStar people know of your interest? -- Dave Horsfall (VK2KFU) VK2KFU @ VK2RWI.NSW.AUS.OC dave@ips.OZ.AU ...munnari!ips.OZ.AU!dave ------------------------------ Date: 27 Feb 91 00:32:46 GMT From: agate!bionet!uwm.edu!rpi!sci.ccny.cuny.edu!dsndata!unocss!mlewis@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (mlewis) Subject: Need Kaypro 2 Boot Disks Message-ID: <3193@unocss.unomaha.edu> From article <15577@hoptoad.uucp>, by curt@hoptoad.uucp (Curt Mayer): > I have been given a Kaypro portable without boot disks. > It says on the back panel, Kaypro 2, with an X on a sticker > after the 2. It has 2 half height 5.25 floppies. I hate to do this, but ME TOO! A friend got a Kaypro 2 from his church, and all it has is WordStar on a bootable disk. No FORMAT, no PIP, no NOTHING! My day phone is (402) 291-8300 x 150, and evenings (402)553-4389 Thanks for ANY responses. Marc -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Na khuya mne ehto gavno? | Internet: cs057@zeus.unomaha.edu preferred machine->| UUCP: uunet!mcmi!unocss!mlewis --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: 28 Feb 91 23:14:12 GMT From: csusac!sactoh0!ijpc!ianj@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu (Ian Justman) Subject: Software Toolworks info... Message-ID: Was just wondering, is Software Toolworks still around (or for that matter, Walt Bilofsky, its founder)? I just picked up a whole pile of their stuff from a local computer store, many of the programs I have duplicates of. One of the packages I picked up was C/80 3.0 and I would like to know more about it and I would like to know if there are any versions later than this one. I have C/80 in both 2.0 and 3.0 versions, in hard-sectored HDOS and soft-sectored CP/M. ------------------------------ Date: 28 Feb 91 14:23:20 GMT From: swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!samsung!munnari.oz.au!metro!ipso!dave@ucsd.edu (Dave Horsfall) Subject: ZCPR. Message-ID: <1991Feb28.142320.4407@ips.oz.au> In article <1991Feb14.192505.14099@wpi.WPI.EDU> ear@wpi.WPI.EDU (Eric A Rasmussen) writes: | > YOU NEED A K10 PLUS A HARD DISK (the more the better) | | Are you saying that ZCPR will ONLY work on a Kaypro with a hard disk, or is it | capable of running on non-Kaypro, non-hard disk systems? (Such as a DEC | Rainbow) Works fine on my (Aus-made) Microbee, with twin floppies. Or are we talking about a strange version of ZCPR? -- Dave Horsfall (VK2KFU) VK2KFU @ VK2RWI.NSW.AUS.OC dave@ips.OZ.AU ...munnari!ips.OZ.AU!dave ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V91 Issue #48 ************************************ 3-Mar-91 06:19:19-MST,9778;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Sun, 3 Mar 91 06:16:04 MST From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V91 #49 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Message-ID: <910303061605.V91N49@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> INFO-CPM Digest Sun, 3 Mar 91 Volume 91 : Issue 49 Today's Topics: C compilers which can be linked with Assembler (SLR for example) Compilers for NECAPC CPM86 Free altos z80: 208k ram Osborne 1 diskdrives. Help needed. Re: ZCPR. Sharp MZ5600 : CP/M -> DOS ? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 2 Mar 91 11:35:32 GMT From: munnari.oz.au!uhccux!uhheph.phys.hawaii.edu!ralph@uunet.uu.net (Ralph Becker-Szendy) Subject: C compilers which can be linked with Assembler (SLR for example) Message-ID: <11736@uhccux.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu> Dear cp/m addicts, I am looking for a C compiler. Not just ANY OLD C compiler. I want one which generates code which can be linked into Z80 Assembler. Here is the problem: The monitor part of my BIOS (the thing which sets up the machine before booting cp/m) is currently written in SLR assembler, as is the rest of the BIOS. The amazing capabilities of the SLR assembler and virtual linker make cross-linking between BIOS and monitor quite easy. However, the monitor is getting longer and longer, and soon (with all the bells and whistles which will be required for SCSI disks as soon as I get the low-level SCSI driver to work, backup to SCSI tape, managing partitions on the disk and storing the setup of the machine in NVRAM) it will become a burden to write all this in assembler. So I am looking for a C compiler with the following capabilities: - ROMable code (that doesn't mean anything exceeding the following requirements, the code actually runs in RAM), - Generate fairly tight code (it all goes into EPROM, and 32kB EPROM isn't that much if a whole C run time library wants to get into that), - Define subroutines and data structures at arbitrary addresses (so it can call assembler routines and access BIOS data structures), - Call assembler subroutines with control over nearly all registers (so it can pass and receive parameters from BIOS-internal routines), - C routines have to be callable from assembler, and there will be no MAIN program, - Code can be generated at any address, and the position of stack and heap can be moved, - The IO library can be replaced or modified (source code would be best), since no BDOS is present when the program runs all IO has to be through BIOS calls or assembler routines internal to the BIOS, - The compiler has to generate Microsoft or SLR type .REL files, because the linking has to be done by the SLR linker, - or even better, it may to generate assembler source which can be assembled by the SLR asssembler. Quite certainly my otherwise very nice MIX-C compiler will not do that. I know of a few other C compilers (there is a PD small-C compiler on SIMTEL, and one in VOL224 or the SIG collection), I hear that some compilers are still being sold (for example by Jay Sage, or Aztek-C, and MI-C is still available for lotsof money in Germany, not identical to the low-cost MIX-C), and others may be defunct (C/80 and Quick-C come to mind). Are any available (frree, new for sale, or "used" someone wants to unload) which can fill these requirements ? By the way, I am in no way restricted to C. I would actually prefer other languages like Pascal or Modula-2, but with those fancy languages the chances of finding a compiler whose output can be linked into assembler are even slimmer than with C. For the long-term future (as soon as I finish my dissertation I might have some spare time), are there any compilers which generate real Z280 code ? Or, for that matter, even assemblers (I am not counting macro libraries which define funny opcodes for the new Z280 instructions) ? That topic pops up every so often. I hear of a few expensive cross-developments systems, but that's no fun. -- Ralph Becker-Szendy UHHEPG=24742::RALPH (HEPNet,SPAN) University of Hawaii RALPH@UHHEPG.PHYS.HAWAII.EDU High Energy Physics Group RALPH@UHHEPG.BITNET Watanabe Hall #203, 2505 Correa Road, Honolulu, HI 96822 (808)956-2931 ------------------------------ Date: 3 Mar 91 05:54:22 GMT From: ogicse!milton!bperigo@uunet.uu.net (Bob Perigo) Subject: Compilers for NECAPC CPM86 Message-ID: <17545@milton.u.washington.edu> Would like to breath some new life into a pair of old necAPCs. That's those combination cpm86/msdos beasts with the 8" disks. Have you seen a PD release of a c86 or fortran86 configured for it? -- INTERNET,BITNET: bperigo@u.washington.edu / _ Bob Perigo babble on BABEL @ 206-363-8969 300-9600 baud /_)/_) UW Box SM-28 VOICE Bob at 206-367-4433 8am-8pm Seattle time / Seattle, WA UUCP Path: ...uw-beaver!u.washington.edu!bperigo 98195 ------------------------------ Date: 2 Mar 91 17:43:00 GMT From: rochester!uhura.cc.rochester.edu!ee.rochester.edu!rochgte!f242.n260.z1.FIDONET.ORG!David.Barnes@louie.udel.edu (David Barnes) Subject: Free altos z80: 208k ram Message-ID: <283.27D04BFC@rochgte.fidonet.org> Craig; Hi.. I will take your Altos system if you will box it up for me, I will pay the shipping and some $$$ for your time and effort.. Matter of fact if you call me I will give you some $$$ for the system, please call me ASAP at (716) 544-7575.. You can call collect if you like... I am located in Rochester NY... thanks very much... David Barnes -- David Barnes - via FidoNet node 1:260/230 UUCP: {smart-host}!ur-valhalla!rochgte!242!David.Barnes INTERNET: David.Barnes@f242.n260.z1.FIDONET.ORG ------------------------------ Date: 2 Mar 91 17:28:51 GMT From: pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!uupsi!sunic!chalmers.se!fy.chalmers.se!fy.chalmers.se!jonas@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu (Jonas Hvarfner) Subject: Osborne 1 diskdrives. Help needed. Message-ID: <1991Mar2.172851.669@fy.chalmers.se> I have an Osborne 1 with diskdrive problems. If I format a disk with 22DISKs cfmt in an IBM PC, the B-drive on the Osborne refuses to read it. I get "bad sector"-errors each time I try a DIR B: or a TYPE B:TEXT.FIL (the file is written by 22DISK). If I use COPY to copy the entire disk to another in the A-drive, it reads up to about track 30-35 and then says "read error". However, the Osborne does not complain whatever I do with this cfmt- formatted disk as long as I do it in the A-drive. I can read and write without any problems at all. The A-drive also reads and writes disks formatted and written on in the B-drive. The B-drive sometimes, but not always, complain about A-formatted and -written disks. I have tested this on the Osborne at several times with new disks and using different IBMs, always with the same disappointing result. It's very annoying not to be able to trust the B-drive. Therefore I would be very happy if someone could comment on the causes of this disk- drive behavior. What can I do about it? If it is misalignment, can I align the drives myself? If so, how? (I have access to an electronics lab with oscilloscopes, frequency-counters etc.) Thank you! Jonas Hvarfner jonas@fy.chalmers.se ------------------------------ Date: 1 Mar 91 21:44:28 GMT From: zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!cs.utexas.edu!hellgate.utah.edu!fcom.cc.utah.edu!cc.utah.edu!cc.usu.edu!slsw2@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu Subject: Re: ZCPR. Message-ID: <1991Mar1.154428.46965@cc.usu.edu> In article <1991Feb14.192505.14099@wpi.WPI.EDU> ear@wpi.WPI.EDU (Eric A Rasmussen) writes: | Are you saying that ZCPR will ONLY work on a Kaypro with a hard disk, or is it | capable of running on non-Kaypro, non-hard disk systems? (Such as a DEC | Rainbow) While running ZCPR on a Rainbow is quite nice, it's probably not that good an idea. The Rainbow is primarily a CP/M-86 machine with a Z80 sidecar; ZCPR only knows how to run Z80 programs, so you have to be willing to limit yourself to those if you want to run it on your Rainbow. I gave up on that because the I/O byte didn't seem to work correctly; I couldn't get, e.g., generic CP/M Kermit running on the Z80. However, it does make a fairly nice setup; the Rainbow has a huge TPA because the operating system runs on the 8086 and therefore doesn't show up in the Z80's memory space. Caveat: I was running ZCPR 1.something or other that I had severely hacked over. I don't know about running ZCPR 3 on the Rainbow. -- =============================================================================== Roger Ivie 35 S 300 W Logan, Ut. 84321 (801) 752-8633 =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: 1 Mar 91 20:54:18 GMT From: comp.vuw.ac.nz!am.dsir.govt.nz!dsiramd!marcamd!mercury!kcbbs!kc@uunet.uu.net (Richard Plinston) Subject: Sharp MZ5600 : CP/M -> DOS ? Message-ID: <1991Mar1.205418.12384@kcbbs> I have one of these with both CP/M-86 and MS-DOS 2.11. I need a postal address. ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V91 Issue #49 ************************************ 4-Mar-91 17:24:46-MST,9547;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Mon, 4 Mar 91 17:15:49 MST From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V91 #50 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Message-ID: <910304171549.V91N50@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> INFO-CPM Digest Mon, 4 Mar 91 Volume 91 : Issue 50 Today's Topics: Altos ACS 8000-2 needs a home FREE Compupro 8085/8086 NZCOM replacenet? PacPerson needs home... Re: Kermit terminal emulation for CP/M Re: Need Kaypro 2 Boot Disks Re: Osborne 1 diskdrives. Help needed. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 4 Mar 91 23:08:47 GMT From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!pasteur!dougfir.Berkeley.EDU!mlvdv@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Michael Van De Vanter) Subject: Altos ACS 8000-2 needs a home Message-ID: <11664@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU> My old reliable computer needs a new home. It is an Altos model ACS 8000-2. This is an industrial strength (big, sturdy, and heavy) CP/M machine with: - 64k memory - 2 Shugart 8" dual-density floppy drives - 2 serial ports (one connects to a terminal as console) - 1 parallel port (centronics printer) - single board (no backplane) - CP/M 2.2 Comes with original manuals, schematics, and other detailed technical documentation, as well as original packing material. It also comes with OPRA 7.4. This is a version of CP/M 2.2 enhanced specifically for this machine (but compatible with all CP/M software). Enhancements include increased disk capacity, disk i/o speed, interrupt driven type-ahead buffer, and others. I also have other tools and programming languages with documentation. Make an offer, any offer, and come take it away. Alternately, suggest a group or organization to whom it would be more benefit than trouble, and I will consider donating it. Michael L. Van De Vanter mlvdv@cs.berkeley.edu (415) 655-6900 (evenings) Michael ------------------------------ Date: 4 Mar 91 17:28:20 GMT From: sdd.hp.com!hp-pcd!hpcvia!gordon@ucsd.edu (gordon_staley) Subject: FREE Compupro 8085/8086 Message-ID: <39790001@hpcvia.CV.HP.COM> I a have FREE CP/M machine available. All I ask is that the recipient pick it up at my home in Corvallis, Oregon. HARDWARE: The system has 64K of memory and a 8085/8086 dual-processor. There are two 8" floppy drives (1.2M) and a terminal (Televideo 925). There are serial ports for the terminal and a modem. There is a parallel port that is ready to have a centronics printer hooked up to it. While the machine was still in use it shared a printer with a PC clone using an A-B switch. SOFTWARE: I have CP/M 2.2, Wordstar, Super-Calc, Dbase 2, CBASIC, CP/M-86 and a number of other packages for it. I believe that I have all of the system manuals and most of the software manuals. The system works fine. It was taken out of service because my wife could no longer get companies to print checks for the accounting software she was using. I hate to see this perfectly good system be sent to a landfill. I will take requests for the next 2 weeks. Preference will be given to charit- able organizations. Please respond by e-mail. Gordon Staley gordon@hpcvia ------------------------------ Date: 3 Mar 91 23:20:59 GMT From: portal!cup.portal.com!Azog-Thoth@apple.com (William Thomas Daugustine) Subject: NZCOM replacenet? Message-ID: <39784@cup.portal.com> A coupla years ago, or whenever, I purchased NZCOM on Epson QX-10 format. After I copyed the disks, I put the originals away, and didnt use them. Now, much time has passed, and when I tried to read them, they seemed to have gone bad. Unfortunatly, I never mail in those registration/guarentee/warrenty cards (if there even was one). Is there any way I can get a (free) replacement? Also, is the license of this software only valid for one machine? I no longer own the QX-10, now instead I own a TeleTek System Master with 8" DSDD drives... Thanx Billy D'Augustine Azog-Thoth@cup.portal.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Mar 91 19:11 EDT From: He did! He did get married bare-footed! Subject: PacPerson needs home... Hall-owww...! As some of you may have noticed, I began sending out a copy of PacPerson to those who requested. The mistery is over; it is just a cheap rip-off of Pacman and Ms. Pacman, with a CP/M touch. Keep those requests coming, and they will be right on their way. (One problem: the uuencoded file had as destination "M:PACPER.ARK." I suspect this would cause a problem with some versions of UUDECODE on a system without a M: drive. I haven't tried. If it does, simply edit the darn file and get rid of the "M:" The file is only 33K long so most editors can handle it. Sometimes, learning to use ED isn't that bad a deal...) Now the sad part. I was just told be Keith Petersen (editor of this newsgroup) that Simtel will not be accepting any more games and will be deleting the ones that they already have (like Tetris). So, I need a well-accessible file-serving place where these two (PacPerson and Tetris) can be uploaded and to which I can redirect far-future requests for those, and to which I can send more games as I write them... Some of you have already placed Tetris on the BBS's, but I would like a "home base" for these games... Any candidates? Thanks in advance, and enjoy! -John ------------------------------ Date: 3 Mar 91 23:38:55 GMT From: csusac!sactoh0!ijpc!ianj@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu (Ian Justman) Subject: Re: Kermit terminal emulation for CP/M Message-ID: rjrodrig@kgnvmc.vnet.ibm.com ("Robert J. Rodriguez") writes: > Is there a version of Kermit or Mex for CP/M on the Apple that does not lose > characters at 1200 and 2400 baud? I have an enhanced Apple 2E that I'm > using with a Datalink 2400 baud modem to download some CP/M stuff from > an IBM mainframe at the college. The IBM does not support nulls, and requires > VT100 emulation for full-screen editing. The CPM Kermit that I have is very o > (maybe 5 years or more) and only supports VT52. It drops the first 3 or 4 > characters of each line at 1200 or 2400 baud. > > I have the Apple Prodos Kermit (3.86), and it works fine, but I'd prefer a > direct CP/M Kermit or Xmodem that can read binaries directly on to CP/M disks > > Also, has anyone tried the MS/DOS CP/M emulators on an Apple PC Transporter? Sorry, but you're SOL on that one if you have a Microsoft/Applied Engineering Z80 card or any of its compatibles. I tried to no avail to write interrupt routines, but I STILL lost characters. And this is at 2400+ on an Apple II Plus with a Videx Videoterm! The Apple CP/M system is a great system, but this CANNOT be helped. Please someone proveme wrong here because I want the same thing. As far as the PCT is concerned, it would STILL be too slow because the PCT uses a 10 MHz V20 which makes the Apple a turbo XT. You could run Z80MU, but your effective speed would be around 500kHz to 1MHz, so you'd be better off using a 386SX. And anything that takes advantage of the V20's hardware emulation will let you use 8080/8085 stuff ONLY, which I think is too limited, and what's worse is that I've heard is that the hardware emulation is buggy. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Mar 91 15:31:54 -0500 From: Jay Sage Subject: Re: Need Kaypro 2 Boot Disks Message-ID: <9103041531.AA03258@LL.MIT.EDU> Marc Lewis asked for the missing files for his Kaypro 2. I tried to reply to him directly, but his address was longer than my mailer would accept (!), so I am replying here. I have some kind of Kaypro IV or 2 and certainly have access to all kinds of Kaypro computers. If you send me blank, formatted, labeled diskettes with a return mailer (self-addressed) with postage, I can copy the files onto the diskettes and send them back. Be sure to include a note reminding me of what I promised to send you, as I do so much of this that I often forget the details by the time disks arrive." -- Jay Sage 1435 Centre Street Newton Centre, MA 02159-2469 P.S. Oops, just remembered that one of the programs you are missing is the FORMAT program. In that case, just send blank disks, and remind me of that so I don't try to write to them without formatting them first. ------------------------------ Date: 3 Mar 91 05:04:06 GMT From: pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!lavaca.uh.edu!menudo.uh.edu!lobster!urchin!f601.n106.z1.fidonet.org!CHARLES.COTHAM@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu (CHARLES COTHAM) Subject: Re: Osborne 1 diskdrives. Help needed. Message-ID: <8529.27D11E92@urchin.fidonet.org> Jonas, I don't know if it would help, but I have a couple of articles on disk drive alignment for the Osborne 1. I would be glad to make a copy and send to you if you will leave me an address. Charles Cotham 2205 Lilac St. Nederland, Texas 77627 ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V91 Issue #50 ************************************ 6-Mar-91 09:19:40-MST,10161;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Wed, 6 Mar 91 09:15:33 MST From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V91 #51 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Message-ID: <910306091534.V91N51@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> INFO-CPM Digest Wed, 6 Mar 91 Volume 91 : Issue 51 Today's Topics: Code Works - Q/C CPM Emulator for an AT? Intersystems DPS-1's for sale Re: Accelerated 6502s and Apple CP/M (Applicard) Re: Compilers for NECAPC CPM86 Re: Kermit terminal emulation for CP/M Re: Lower Price/Wordstar 4.0 ZMP 1.5 Overlay for Televideo 803 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 5 Mar 91 17:52:30 GMT From: magnus.ircc.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!unix.cis.pitt.edu!pitt!darth!jones@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu (Davey Jones) Subject: Code Works - Q/C Message-ID: <587@darth.PGH.PA.US> Does anyone have information on The Code Works. They produced the Q/C compiler for Z80 based CP/M systems. Are they still in business? Is it still possible to get the Q/C compiler? Thanks ------------------------------ Date: 5 Mar 91 03:11:34 GMT From: ucivax!jarthur!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!sdd.hp.com!hp-pcd!hplsla!marshall@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Marshall Lollis) Subject: CPM Emulator for an AT? Message-ID: <6400001@hplsla.HP.COM> You may find this an incredibly foolish question, but is there a CPM emulator I can run on my AT? The reason I ask is because of a family expense program that we have had from when we were running a z-card in our Apple.........many years ago. I guess I would assume that any emulator available would be in the form of software. Please don't make too much fun of me. I had to ask! *Marshall* ******************************************************************************** Let's see, now that I am done.......... :w :q :wq :wq! ^d X exit X Q :quitbye CtrlAltDel ~~q :~q logout save/quit :!QUIT ^[zz ^[ZZ ZZZZ ^H ^@ ^L ^[c ^# ^E ^X ^I ^T ? help helpquit ^D ^d ^C ^c ^x^c helpexit ?Quit ?q ^Kx /QY Oooops.......... Discs synced; halted ******************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: 6 Mar 91 00:51:47 GMT From: ns-mx!shemtaia.weeg.uiowa.edu!jrblack@uunet.uu.net (James Roger Black) Subject: Intersystems DPS-1's for sale Message-ID: <4740@ns-mx.uiowa.edu> I have two Ithaca Intersystems DPS-1 computers for sale. These are high-quality S-100 CP/M systems with 20-slot motherboard, 25-amp power supply, traditional front panel (lots of lights and switches) and a chassis strong enough to jump up and down on. Each one has a Z-80 CPU, 64K RAM, dual SSDD 8-inch floppies with controllers, and all that good stuff. There are also two serial cards, a modem card, a 2708/2716 EPROM programmer, an S-100 extender card with logic probe, a sound-effects board, etc. Software: CP/M; Microsoft M80 Macro Assembler; WordStar; Vedit; DRI Tex word processor; ZDM debugger; D80 disassembler; Forth; DRI PL/I; Ithaca Pascal/Z; Microsoft Basic; lots of other stuff. All software is licensed, original disks and manuals, etc. All hardware includes schematics and manuals. There are some books and magazines, too. Both units were working when decommissioned. One needs a serial card, but the other has an extra, so it balances out. Between the two of them, you should have a complete computer and spare parts till doomsday. No reasonable offer refused; you pay shipping. Send email if interested. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Roger Black jrblack@shemtaia.weeg.uiowa.edu Weeg Computing Center The University of Iowa Disclaimer: I speak for nobody but myself. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: 5 Mar 91 04:22:14 GMT From: zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!wuarchive!csus.edu!uop!quack!mrapple@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu (Nick Sayer) Subject: Re: Accelerated 6502s and Apple CP/M (Applicard) Message-ID: rat@ruth.UUCP (David Douthitt) writes: >As an aside, can someone tell me if there are any other hard drives >you can use with a PCPI card besides the Sider? Ones that work with >Prodos? I wrote a pair of drivers that allowed you to use ProDOS devices under PCPI. One was for floppies and handled drives up to 2 MB, the other was for hard disks and allowed up to 8 MB, but it had to be non-removable (or you would have to make VERY sure to warm-boot if you swapped. Bye bye data otherwise). The trouble is that the vectors had to be sized in advance, so each potential drive took up a k or so of your TPA. All of the above is from memory. I could dig them up, but I'd rather not have to. They're widespread, I would hope. :-/ >What about SCSI? They are ProDOS devices, no? -- Nick Sayer | Think of me as a recombinant | RIP: Mel Blanc mrapple@quack.sac.ca.us | Simpson: Homer's looks, Lisa's | 1908-1989 N6QQQ [44.2.1.17] | brains, Bart's manners, and | May he never 209-952-5347 (Telebit) | Maggie's appetite for TV. --Me | be silenced. ------------------------------ Date: 5 Mar 91 21:03:35 GMT From: pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!caen!news.cs.indiana.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!iboga!berger@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu (Mike Berger) Subject: Re: Compilers for NECAPC CPM86 Message-ID: <1991Mar5.210335.7301@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> bperigo@milton.u.washington.edu (Bob Perigo) writes: >Would like to breath some new life into a pair of old necAPCs. That's those >combination cpm86/msdos beasts with the 8" disks. Have you seen a PD release >of a c86 or fortran86 configured for it? *---- I think C86 is a commercial compiler, so you won't find a "free" version. However DeSmet C is now shareware or free, and it's excellent. Since the APC runs MS-DOS 2.11, virtually ANY generic compiler will work. I still use the latest version of Microsoft C to generate code for the NEC APC. -- Mike Berger Department of Statistics, University of Illinois AT&TNET 217-244-6067 Internet berger@atropa.stat.uiuc.edu ------------------------------ Date: 5 Mar 91 14:56:49 GMT From: milton!ogicse!pdxgate!parsely!percy!qiclab!techbook!fzsitvay@beaver.cs.washington.edu (Frank Zsitvay) Subject: Re: Kermit terminal emulation for CP/M Message-ID: <1991Mar5.145649.1129@techbook.com> In article ianj@ijpc.UUCP (Ian Justman) writes: >> >> Also, has anyone tried the MS/DOS CP/M emulators on an Apple PC Transporter? > >As far as the PCT is concerned, it would STILL be too slow >because the PCT uses a 10 MHz V20 which makes the Apple a turbo >XT. You could run Z80MU, but your effective speed would be >around 500kHz to 1MHz, so you'd be better off using a 386SX. And >anything that takes advantage of the V20's hardware emulation >will let you use 8080/8085 stuff ONLY, which I think is too >limited, and what's worse is that I've heard is that the hardware >emulation is buggy. z80mu on a 20mhz 286 gives you about a 2.5 mhz z80, which is not badd all things considered. you would be surprised at how much cp/m stuff is written for the 8080/8085 instruction set. some z80 machines had problems with the extra z80 registers because the bios would assume the machine was going to be used like an 8080. running z80mu on a machine like a 386sx is rather pointless, especially if you end up purchasing the machine solely to run cp/m stuff. even though i have z80mu, i rarely use it because it is not enough like a cp/m environment just when you find that you need it to be. not to mention i have a lot of cp/m machine specific programs. if you want a solution to your problem, your best bet would be to spend $50 to $100 or so and buy a used cp/m machine. then you can get one with a real serial port, that won't drop chars even at 9600 baud. 'bag' solutions like a cp/m card in an apple are really not great solutions because you are still stuck with a 'funny' disk format and strange machine anomolies. (like slow serial ports, wierd video mapping, etc. etc.) -- fzsitvay@techbook.COM - but don't quote me on that.... American Oil Company motto - Bend over, We'll pump!!! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1991 07:06:23 PST From: Sprague.Wbst311@xerox.com Subject: Re: Lower Price/Wordstar 4.0 Message-ID: <" 6-Mar-91 10:06:23 EST".*.Michael_D._Sprague.wbst311@Xerox.com> > | Doug, I am interested in your copy of Wordstar 4.0. > | > | ~ Mike (Sprague.Wbst311@Xerox.Com) > No doubt. Do the WordStar people know of your interest? As long as it is a legal copy (and it sounded that way), what do they care? ~ Mike ------------------------------ Date: 5 Mar 91 21:04:01 GMT From: mcsun!ukc!axion!tharr!nowster!pm@uunet.uu.net (Paul Martin) Subject: ZMP 1.5 Overlay for Televideo 803 Message-ID: Has anyone out there got a working ZMP 1.5 overlay for use with a Televideo 803? (I have overlays for other Televideos, but the 803 hardware is different.) If you do, could you mail me that you have it, and not send it until requested? I hear rumours that Ron Murray's being given encouragement to speed up sections of ZMP's C code, and may be producing a new version some time soon. Is there any basis to this? -- Paul Martin ..!uunet!tharr!pm.nowster | CP/M systems never die. They pm.nowster@tharr.uucp (pm111@tharr.uucp) | just get more BIOSed with age. ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V91 Issue #51 ************************************ 7-Mar-91 16:20:32-MST,10868;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Thu, 7 Mar 91 16:15:05 MST From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V91 #52 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Message-ID: <910307161506.V91N52@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> INFO-CPM Digest Thu, 7 Mar 91 Volume 91 : Issue 52 Today's Topics: Re: Code Works - Q/C Re: CPM Emulator for an AT? Re: FREE ALTOS Z80: 208K RAM, 40MB HD, TAPE DRIVE, CRT, ETC. Re: Kaypro 4 and hard disks Re: ZMP 1.5 Overlay for Televideo 803 Wanted: Shugart SA860 drive info ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 6 Mar 91 09:15:54 GMT From: csusac!sactoh0!ijpc!ianj@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu (Ian Justman) Subject: Re: Code Works - Q/C Message-ID: <8kRDy1w163w@ijpc.UUCP> jones@darth.PGH.PA.US (Davey Jones) writes: > > Does anyone have information on The Code Works. They produced the Q/C > compiler for Z80 based CP/M systems. Are they still in business? Is it > still possible to get the Q/C compiler? > > Thanks Perhaps Doug Braun could elucidate on the subject because his UZI package is written using Code Works' Q/C compiler. Is it even compilable under Aztec C, the Toolworks C/80 compiler, BDS-C, or Mix C? I would very much like to know. Because if it's Q/C specific and you cannot legally get the Code Works' compiler, I will be extremely disappointed. ------------------------------ Date: 7 Mar 91 08:53:06 GMT From: pacbell.com!pacbell!pbhyf!blholli@decwrl.dec.com (Brian Holliday) Subject: Re: CPM Emulator for an AT? Message-ID: <8674@pbhyf.PacBell.COM> In article <6400001@hplsla.HP.COM> marshall@hplsla.HP.COM (Marshall Lollis) writes: >You may find this an incredibly foolish question, but is there a CPM >emulator I can run on my AT? The reason I ask is because of a family >expense program that we have had from when we were running a z-card in >our Apple.........many years ago. I guess I would assume that any >emulator available would be in the form of software. Yes, there are a few CP/M emulators in software. I've used Joan Riff's Z80MU (which emulates a Z80), and also one that came from Japan (which emulates an 8080). These were interesting, but not too useful to me. The emulator from Japan can be ordered through the C Users Journal magazine, for $8. It is floppy #284 -- "portable 8080 emulator" -- and it comes with C source code. I only got it partially working before I gave up. Expect to do some debugging if you get this. Joan Riff's Z80MU works better, and is public domain, but it is slow -- as all CP/M emulators in software will be. Z80MU should be available in many MSDOS software collections. (I heard that a later version of Z80MU is being sold as a real, supported product. If you want the freebie, look for the "original" Z80MU.) If you're serious about running CP/M under MSDOS, consider purchasing the UniDOS Z80 coprocessor board. But you may also have problems getting your PC to read your old Apple floppies. In the UniDOS documentation, it says: If your CP/M computer happens to be an Apple computer with a CP/M card, you should purchase MatchPoint-PC. MatchPoint-PC will allow your PC compatible computer to read Apple II diskettes directly. The standard disk controller in your PC is not capable of reading or writing Apple diskettes. My old CP/M computer is a Kaypro, so I can't vouch for MatchPoint-PC. I can vouch for the UniDOS Z80 coprocessor board. I bought it for $170 in August 1990, and it does everything I wanted it to do. It is also quite fast -- it runs at 8 Mhz with no wait states. MatchPoint-PC and the UniDOS board are made by: Micro Solutions, Inc. 132 West Lincoln Highway DeKalb, Illinois 60115 (815) 756-3411 And I purchased UniDOS from: Emerald Microware 12470 S.W. First St. P.O. Box 1726 Beaverton, Oregon 97075 (sorry, don't know the phone #) Brian Holliday (...!pacbell!pbhyf!blholli) ------------------------------ Date: 5 Mar 91 22:44:41 GMT From: zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!lavaca.uh.edu!menudo.uh.edu!lobster!urchin!Darrell.Pittman@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu (Darrell Pittman) Subject: Re: FREE ALTOS Z80: 208K RAM, 40MB HD, TAPE DRIVE, CRT, ETC. Message-ID: <8673.27D43D15@urchin.fidonet.org> I can't come to Santa Barbara to pick it up (I'm in Texas), but I can give it a good home if you can box it up and I'll pay the shipping. Let me know via e-mail at "pittman@mwk.uucp". Regards... Darrell Pittman ------------------------------ Date: 7 Mar 91 19:25:04 GMT From: simasd!baron!pnet07!donm@nosc.mil (Don Maslin) Subject: Re: Kaypro 4 and hard disks Message-ID: <1991Mar7.192504.21556@simasd.uucp> wlhadley@MWUNIX.MITRE.ORG (William L. Hadley) writes: > >Hello all! I have some questions about the Kaypro 4 and hard disks. > >1) Is it possible to connect a hard disk to a Kaypro 4? Yes, but... >If yes... >2) Does it require a special type of hard disk, or will a standard IBM >drive work? An ST-506 type interface is required. >3) Does it require a special disk controller cable? Yes, and an interface card and controller, also. What you will need in the hardware and software line can be obtained from: Emerald Microware P.O. Box 1726 Beaverton OR 97075 503/641-8088 (talk to Brian) They sell a kit that includes the interface card, controller, and software (you provide the drive) for $245 approximately. The drive can be up to 40 mb. To make the drive cold bootable, you will need to purchase and install a new ROM. Emerald sells the KayPLUS ROM for $69.95, or you can get the well known Advent TurboROM for about $35 from Chuck Stafford, 916/483-0312. The ROMs offer some other advantages also. You WILL want to install a fan in the box! >4) Do I need special software to format it? If yes, then where can I get the >software (I haven't looked too closely at the CPM archives on Simtel yet)? Yes. Obtainable from the same source that you got some of the other things that you are going to need to buy. See above. >5) Is there a limitation to the size of the hard disk? That depends upon just how much money you want to spend. >6) Can the harddisk be bootable? See above. >7) Will I have to give up one of the floppy drives? > Not necessarily, if you install a half high drive. Definitely, with a full height. Keeper of the CP/M System Disk | UUCP: {nosc ucsd crash ncr-sd}!pnet07!donm Archives for the Dino(saur)SIG | ARPA: simasd!pnet07!donm@nosc.mil - San Diego Computer Society - | INET: donm@pnet07.cts.com ------------------------------ Date: 7 Mar 91 01:42:08 GMT From: agate!bionet!uwm.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!samsung!munnari.oz.au!uniwa!vax7!nmurrayr@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Ron Murray) Subject: Re: ZMP 1.5 Overlay for Televideo 803 Message-ID: <7328.27d60af0@cc.curtin.edu.au> In article , pm@nowster.UUCP (Paul Martin) writes: > > I hear rumours that Ron Murray's being given encouragement to > speed up sections of ZMP's C code, and may be producing a new > version some time soon. Is there any basis to this? > Don't know about speeding it up: I have considered recoding the terminal loop in assembler, but nothing definite yet. I am considering a VT-10* emulation (and the fast loop would probably be necessary for this. Perhaps Kermit as well, although I suspect most sites will have SZ/RZ by now. I'll probably get around to all this in a month or so, as soon as the weather gets cooler (so I can get into the computer room again), and once I fix my CP/M computer (which has a !@#$%^^&*&*&^ intermittent fault). ....Ron -- =============================================================================== Internet: Murray_RJ@cc.curtin.edu.au | "You can lead a horse to ACSnet: Murray_RJ@cc.cut.oz.au | water, but if you can Bitnet: Murray_RJ%cc.curtin.edu.au@cunyvm.bitnet | get him to float on his UUCP : uunet!munnari.oz!cc.curtin.edu.au!Murray_RJ | back you've really got Amateur Packet Radio: VK6ZJM@VK6BBS.#WA.AUS.OC | something" TCP/IP: 44.136.204.14, 44.136.204.19 | -- Murphy's Law I =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: 6 Mar 91 17:50:27 GMT From: agate!bionet!uwm.edu!spool.mu.edu!mips!twg.com!frank@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Frank McConnell) Subject: Wanted: Shugart SA860 drive info Message-ID: <8713@gollum.twg.com> I picked up a few SA860 drives as spares a while back; these are half-height 8" drives, and as such don't have the nice hefty 110 VAC motors found in canonical full-height drives. Instead, these drives look much like what PC 5.25" half-heights aspire to be when they grow up, with a bigger version of the "flat" spindle motor and a quarter-turn handle to "close" the drive. I now would like to use these to replace a pair of SA850 full-height drives. The problem is, these drives have a single power connector that is different from either of the two on the 850s, and of course I have no service or installation manual for the 860s :-(. Does anyone out there have info on what the power connector expects? Or, perhaps, pointers on where I could get the documentation for the drives? (Or even tales of terror about the troubles I'm asking for!) Feel free to mail me; I'll summarize mailed responses. Thanks in advance! -Frank McConnell "I want my MPE" E-mail: Tel: +1 415 969 3770 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Mar 91 14:58:50 -0500 From: wlhadley@mwunix.mitre.org (William L. Hadley) Message-ID: <9103061958.AA27820@mwunix.mitre.org> Hello all! I have some questions about the Kaypro 4 and hard disks. 1) Is it possible to connect a hard disk to a Kaypro 4? If yes... 2) Does it require a special type of hard disk, or will a standard IBM drive work? 3) Does it require a special disk controller cable? 4) Do I need special software to format it? If yes, then where can I get the software (I haven't looked too closely at the CPM archives on Simtel yet)? 5) Is there a limitation to the size of the hard disk? 6) Can the harddisk be bootable? 7) Will I have to give up one of the floppy drives? Thanks in advance! Bill Hadley wlhadley@mwunix.mitre.org ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V91 Issue #52 ************************************ 9-Mar-91 23:28:08-MST,2826;000000000000 Mail-From: W8SDZ created at 9-Mar-91 23:22:09 Return-Path: Date: Sat, 9 Mar 91 23:22:08 MST From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V91 #53 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Message-ID: <910309232209.V91N53@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> INFO-CPM Digest Sat, 9 Mar 91 Volume 91 : Issue 53 Today's Topics: RE: CODE WORKS Q/C ROM Chip Carrier Turbo Pascal ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 07 Mar 91 20:48:13 EST From: "Craig Spirka" Subject: RE: CODE WORKS Q/C Message-ID: <9103080148.AA13978@alw.nih.gov> I know the owner-founder-president of the Code Works -- if this is the same Code Works you have in mind. His name is Ron Jeffries, and he is a former colleague of mine. Now, you may reach him through Com Design in Santa Barbara: (805) 685-1411. ------------------------------ Date: 9 Mar 91 06:14:29 GMT From: van-bc!cynic!pevans@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Phillip Evans) Subject: ROM Chip Carrier Message-ID: Hello CPM world. I want some ROM chip carriers. These gizmos (a pair of 'em) came in the PX-* I got at an auction. A 28-pin ROM or EPROM chip fits in it, and the bottoms of the pins get bent under and the chip is fixed. The carrier has a kind of tiny handle on each end and what you do is grab it by those and put it in an extra-big socket. The whole arrangement lets you change program ROM chips without fuss or static damage. DOES ANYONE KNOW WHERE I CAN GET MORE CARRIERS? If so thanks muchly... Signature: __________________X________________ <-- my mark ------------------------------ Date: 8 Mar 91 21:31:30 GMT From: aurs01!luce@uunet.uu.net (J. Luce) Subject: Turbo Pascal Message-ID: <59643@aurs01.UUCP> Where can anyone get a copy of Turbo Pascal for CP/M? My S-100 system uses 8" disks on top of that :) I suppose I could read it off a Kaypro 5.25 using 22DISK and upload it to my machine, but a real diskette would be nicer. ------------------------------------------------------------------- John Luce | Life is the leading cause of death Alcatel Network Systems | ----------------------------------------- Raleigh, NC | Standard Disclaimer Applies 919-850-6787 | Mail? Here? Try aurs01!aurw46!luce@mcnc.org | or ...!mcnc!aurgate!luce -------------------------------- or John.Luce@f130.n151.z1.fidonet.org ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V91 Issue #53 ************************************ 11-Mar-91 01:36:03-MST,6475;000000000000 Mail-From: W8SDZ created at 11-Mar-91 01:25:33 Return-Path: Date: Mon, 11 Mar 91 01:25:32 MST From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V91 #54 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Message-ID: <910311012533.V91N54@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> INFO-CPM Digest Mon, 11 Mar 91 Volume 91 : Issue 54 Today's Topics: About CP/M-80 emulator on PC AT Shugart 801 (2 msgs) Small Comm Program(s) VT100 emulation ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 10 Mar 91 12:09:20 EDT From: Alexandre Montaron Subject: About CP/M-80 emulator on PC AT Hello| I've juste bought MEDIA-MASTER v5.01 which now include a CP/M-Z80 software emulator... for PC XT or AT... It emulator either Z80, 8080 (software), and for which who have a NEC V20 instead of a intel processor: 8080 (hardware)... because this chip has a 8080 compatibility mode. (Does someone know how to enter in this mode?) I've not fully tested yet but it speed... For example i've done in Z80 a loop which take exactly 10 seconds on a Z80 at 4Mhz with no INT nor NMI... On a PC XT (8088 at 4,77Mhz) with Z80MU It was taken: 147secondes, now with ZPEM (MM v5.01) it takes only: 58secondes (for information on a commodore 128 in CP/M mode it takes 60secondes|||) I've also done the test on a 386sx-20 with ZPEM: only 7 secondes (so it's faster than a Z80 a 4Mhz|||) This emulator permit to acces I/O port... To acces RS232C for example (|) And they have add a new Bdos fonction which permit to call any PC's bios fnct But it simply emulator a CPM22 (or perhaps a ZCPR because of the LIST cmd?) But it exist... Try it | Bye| Alex. ------------------------------ Date: 10 Mar 91 18:05:53 GMT From: zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!unix.cis.pitt.edu!fmgst@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu (Filip Gieszczykiewicz) Subject: Shugart 801 Message-ID: <101787@unix.cis.pitt.edu> Greetings. I got a Sol-20 Terminal Computer a few months ago but only started playing with it this weekend. It's a 8080 based machine with a S100 buss. It came with 3 boards: 32K SRAM, 16KSRAM, and a DiskJockey 2D/B disk controller. It also came with a box of 8" disks. Anyways, I hooked it all up and after a few hours of the good'old guessing at DIP switches I got the darn thing to boot CP/M 2.2! [wheeee ;-)] That's all fine but there is a catch. This system came with 2 8" drives. Drive A (bootable) works fine but the analog controller on drive B does not. That means that I can format a disk (I have) and I can SYSGEN it (have too) but I can NOT copy anything without drive B :-( SO! Anyone have a 801 (SSDD 8") drive lying around? I saw many at the "swapfest" but, at the time, I did not have this computer. My offer: $5 + shipping if you have just the board (under the drive) $25 + shipping for the whole drive (drive+board+case+ps) Next swapfest is in April so if noone gives any decent offers, I can wait :-( Please send e-mail with offer. Take care. -- _______________________________________________________________________________ "The Force will be with you, always." It _is_ with me and has been for 11 years Filip Gieszczykiewicz "... a Jedi does it with a mind trick... " ;-) FMGST@PITTVMS or fmgst@unix.cis.pitt.edu "My ideas. ALL MINE!!" ------------------------------ Date: 11 Mar 91 02:04:26 GMT From: agate!bionet!uwm.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!unix.cis.pitt.edu!fmgst@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Filip Gieszczykiewicz) Subject: Shugart 801 Message-ID: <101860@unix.cis.pitt.edu> Greetings. I got a Sol-20 Terminal Computer a few months ago but only started playing with it this weekend. It's a 8080 based machine with a S100 buss. It came with 3 boards: 32K SRAM, 16KSRAM, and a DiskJockey 2D/B disk controller. It also came with a box of 8" disks. Anyways, I hooked it all up and after a few hours of the good'old guessing at DIP switches I got the darn thing to boot CP/M 2.2! [wheeee ;-)] That's all fine but there is a catch. This system came with 2 8" drives. Drive A (bootable) works fine but the analog controller on drive B does not. That means that I can format a disk (I have) and I can SYSGEN it (have too) but I can NOT copy anything without drive B :-( SO! Anyone have a 801 (SSDD 8") drive lying around? I saw many at the "swapfest" but, at the time, I did not have this computer. My offer: $5 + shipping if you have just the board (under the drive) $25 + shipping for the whole drive (drive+board+case+ps) Next swapfest is in April so if noone gives any decent offers, I can wait :-( Please send e-mail with offer. Take care. -- _______________________________________________________________________________ "The Force will be with you, always." It _is_ with me and has been for 11 years Filip Gieszczykiewicz "... a Jedi does it with a mind trick... " ;-) FMGST@PITTVMS or fmgst@unix.cis.pitt.edu "My ideas. ALL MINE!!" ------------------------------ Date: 10 Mar 91 20:04:33 GMT From: van-bc!cynic!pevans@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Phillip Evans) Subject: Small Comm Program(s) Message-ID: Hello everyone _ I want to know the smalles comm programs for CP/M. All I need are terminal capabilities, ASCII capture, and Xmodem. The best one will be shoehorned into 63K of EPROM which is why size is a premium. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Mar 91 20:59:24 IST From: "Jacques J. Goldberg" Subject: VT100 emulation Since this issue comes out periodically: 1-QTERM by David Goodeneough works great, in QTERM42G.LBR 2-What it does not have is a built-in keyboard simulation, but everything has been provided to implement it very easily. 3-I have made a patch for keyboard emulation with a plain (no PF keys) keyboard. 4-Who knows David's new e-mail address so I can send him that patch, in case there is any general interest in it? ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V91 Issue #54 ************************************ 11-Mar-91 20:19:55-MST,10307;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Mon, 11 Mar 91 20:15:19 MST From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V91 #55 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Message-ID: <910311201521.V91N55@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> INFO-CPM Digest Mon, 11 Mar 91 Volume 91 : Issue 55 Today's Topics: Apple 3.5" floppy driver for Applicard? DTC900 hard drive controller help Match-Point Disk Controller Obvious Solution the Motor On Re: VT100 emulation Shugart 801 Wordstar 4.0 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 11 Mar 91 08:40:57 -0500 From: binder@decvax.dec.com (Simplicitas gratia simplicitatis) Subject: Apple 3.5" floppy driver for Applicard? Message-ID: <9103111340.AA18570@caliph.zk3.dec.com> Been away from CP/M for about a year after I sold my Apple //e. I just put my Applicard into an Apple IIGS, and now that I have 3.5" floppies I'd like to use them. I don't have any uncompression or unsqueezing utilities, and I've now got only a single 5.25" drive. Can anyone provide a copy of a 3.5" Applicard driver on a 5.25" floppy? Thanks. Dick Binder (Simplicitas gratia simplicitatis) ======================================================================= Digital Equipment Corporation DEC Easynet: DECVAX::BINDER 110 Spit Brook Road, ZKO3-3/Y32 uucp: ...!decvax.dec.com!binder Nashua, NH 03062 Internet: binder@decvax.dec.com ======================================================================= ------------------------------ Date: 11 Mar 91 21:30:00 EDT From: "OAK::SNIPEHUNT" Subject: DTC900 hard drive controller help Greetings! I have a monstrous old hard disk system (8", 40mb fixed and 10mb removable) hooked to my LB+ via a DTC900 nearly-SCSI controller. The fool thing didn't survive the last move, and now I'm trying to get it working again. It's a nightmare of first-generation TTL gates. If anyone out in netland has full schematics for this monster, or better yet, a spare that they'd be willing to part with cheap (summer tuition is coming up :-) ), I'd love to hear from you. DTC doesn't even want to admit they ever made the thing in the first place, and the documentation I have doesn't cover circuits or operation at all. Can someone bail me out? (Just between thee and me, I'd *much* rather ditch it and get a nice, quiet 3-1/2er in the 40mb range, but the wife'd pitch a fit if I did :-) ) Bruce H. McIntosh snipehunt@oak.circa.ufl.edu Go Gators! dhbhm@nervm.nerdc.ufl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Mar 91 12:11:53 -0500 From: Jay Sage Subject: Match-Point Disk Controller Message-ID: <9103111211.AA14829@LL.MIT.EDU> I have been using the Match-Point disk controller and software from MicroSolutions for several years, and it has worked flawlessly. I regularly read, write, and format Apple CP/M true soft-sector and NorthStar hard-sector diskettes. For some reason, this package does not support the Heath hard- sectored format. I don't know why. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1991 09:39:24 PST From: Sprague.Wbst311@xerox.com Subject: Obvious Solution the Motor On Message-ID: <"11-Mar-91 12:39:24 EST".*.Michael_D._Sprague.wbst311@Xerox.com> Forget the AND gate to generate Motor On, forget connecting Motor On to Ground, just forget all that sort of stuff. The solution was so obvious that I am surprised that I and others didn't think of it first. I would have written this sooner, but due to the massive ice storm we had a week ago, I only made it into work two days last week, and those were very busy days. Back Track: This has to do with replacing 8 inch drives with 5.25 or 3.5 inch high density drives. The problem was that an 8" interface does not supply the Motor On signal, and that many of the new high density drives do not provide a jumper to tie the Drive select signal to Motor On. I had suggested using an AND gate to provide the signal. Zoltan Fekete had suggested that the signal just be grounded. Grounding the signal is not good, since as long as a floppy has been inserted, the heads will be loaded and the drive will spin. As I prepared to make a new interface board (this one with room to add an AND gate chip), I realized that even with this addition, both drives will spin if each has a floppy, and either one is selected. Then the solution this me. Use an IBM type twisted cable!!! This way, the Drive Select signal could be tied directly to that drives Motor On, and nothing else was needed (and you can buy them for about the same cost as it would take to make one). Since I had a spare twisted cable lying around, I modified my old interface board, and it worked fine. There is still a problem with drive ready, but I'll get to that later. In the IBM twisted cable, all wires go directly to the first drive connector (drive B) and then wires 10 through 15 are twisted and installed backwards for the second drive connector (drive A). The ground wires all come out correct, so this results in swapping positions for DS1/Motor ON and DS2/DS3. On your interface board, connect the controllers Drive Select 1 signal to the Floppy Interfaces Drive Select 1 (Motor On for Drive A) and Drive Select 3 (Drive Select 2 for Drive A). The controllers Drive Select 2 still connects to the floppy Interfaces Drive Select 2, and also to Motor On. Both A and B drives should now be configured as Drive B, because of the twist. Drive A goes on the end of the cable, after the twist. The termination resistor should now be in drive A, rather than Drive B, because A is at the end of the cable. Have an controller that supports 4 drives? No problem. Add a second 34 pin header to your interface board, and connect as above, substituting the controllers Drive Select 3 and Drive Select 4 signals for Selects 1 and 2. Again, Drives C and D must be configured as Drive B, and a termination resistor should be in drive C (which goes at the end of the cable). Hmmm, for those who might have been lost by my "Interface board", you need a way to connect the signals coming from the 8" drive controller to the 5.25 (or 3.5) inch drives. I took the controllers signals directly using a 34 wire ribbon cable. That connects to a 34 pin wire wrap header on my Interface board. There is a second 34 pin wire wrap header on the interface board, and that is for connecting to the floppies themselves. Using a wire wrap tool, I then connected all the interface signals to their proper pins on both headers. Last, I mentioned a Drive Ready problem. On my Chinon 1.2Mb drives, there was a jumper to select between the Disk Change Function and Drive Ready on pin 34 of the floppy. I set it for Drive Ready .... and it almost worked. The signal *IS* compatible with the 8" drive ready signal. The problem is that my computer times out before the drive is ready and gives me an error. Since the drive is still spinning (the drive spins of about 10 Seconds after it is de-selected, in case you want to use it again), if I try the command again, everything works fine. Still it's a pain to boot twice, or type DIR, wait then tell it to retry. The obvious solution would be to tie the controllers drive ready signal to ground. As Zoltan Fekete pointed out, this will probably work fine for reading the drive, but could cause problems when trying to write to it. I have had no problems writing to the drive .... yet. But I have not used the system enough to know if I can get away with this or not. The other solution of course, would be to modify the BIOS (I think) of the computer so that it takes longer for the error time out when spinning the drive up. Sigh! I assume that most of you who have done this conversion have just tied Drive Ready to ground? If so, how well has it worked? ~ Mike (Sprague.Wbst311@Xerox.Com) ------------------------------ Date: 11 Mar 91 18:05:04 GMT From: simasd!baron!pnet07!donm@nosc.mil (Don Maslin) Subject: Re: VT100 emulation Message-ID: <1991Mar11.180504.29530@simasd.uucp> PHR00JG%TECHNION@TAUNIVM.TAU.AC.IL ("Jacques J. Goldberg") writes: >4-Who knows David's new e-mail address so I can send him that patch, in > case there is any general interest in it? The last address that I have for David is !wet!pallio!dg and is a couple of months old. You might try it, Jacques. - don Keeper of the CP/M System Disk | UUCP: {nosc ucsd crash ncr-sd}!pnet07!donm Archives for the Dino(saur)SIG | ARPA: simasd!pnet07!donm@nosc.mil - San Diego Computer Society - | INET: donm@pnet07.cts.com ------------------------------ Date: 11 Mar 91 12:31:00 GMT From: usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!magnus.ircc.ohio-state.edu!csn!ub!uhura.cc.rochester.edu!ee.rochester.edu!rochgte!f242.n260.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Fred.Scacchitti@ucsd.edu (Fred Scacchitti) Subject: Shugart 801 Message-ID: <298.27DBD50A@rochgte.fidonet.org> I've got an 801 available at the price you asked (25 + shipping)- message me or call (716) 482 -7159 if you're still interested. After 6:00 PM. Fred -- Fred Scacchitti - via FidoNet node 1:260/230 UUCP: {smart-host}!ur-valhalla!rochgte!242!Fred.Scacchitti INTERNET: Fred.Scacchitti@f242.n260.z1.FIDONET.ORG ------------------------------ Date: 11 Mar 91 01:33:31 GMT From: magnus.ircc.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!lavaca.uh.edu!menudo.uh.edu!lobster!urchin!Doug.Platt@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu (Doug Platt) Subject: Wordstar 4.0 Message-ID: <9119.27DB1862@urchin.fidonet.org> Hello Roger Have heard nothing back from you Re Wordstar 4.0 Have you disappeared? Doug ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V91 Issue #55 ************************************ 14-Mar-91 23:22:27-MST,8876;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Thu, 14 Mar 91 23:15:06 MST From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V91 #56 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Message-ID: <910314231507.V91N56@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> INFO-CPM Digest Thu, 14 Mar 91 Volume 91 : Issue 56 Today's Topics: Kaypro 10 backup RDCBM.COM author Re: Kaypro 10 backup Re: RDCBM.COM author Re: Small Comm Program(s) S100 cage wanted (2 msgs) wordstar! wanted, Attention Doug Platt! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 13 Mar 91 19:51:54 GMT From: ogicse!adaptive!asi.com!casey@decwrl.dec.com (Casey Bahr) Subject: Kaypro 10 backup Message-ID: <901@adaptive.UUCP> Greetings CP/M'rs. I hope this is the appropriate place to ask these questions. It was the only CP/M newsgroup I could find. We must be a dying breed :) I just became the proud owner of a Kaypro 10, and I'm wondering if anyone has any ideas about methods or devices I could use to regularly backup the 10M hard drive? It seems prudent especially in light of the firm warnings to use "safety" before turning off the power. I'm sure I'll forget that more than once or have a power outage while running sometime and I'd like to be able to restore things. I hope I don't have to transfer everything through the floppy drive. Also, while I'm here, does anyone know of a source for a PD C compiler for this beastie? Thanks, Casey Bahr casey@asi.com | ogicse!adaptive!casey | uunet!adaptive!casey Adaptive Solutions, Inc., 1400 NW Compton Dr. Suite 340, Beaverton, OR 97006 VOICE: (503) 690.1236 /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ FAX: (503) 690.1249 ------------------------------ Date: 12 Mar 91 06:37:09 GMT From: agate!bionet!uwm.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!jarthur!nntp-server.caltech.edu!rknop@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Robert Andrew Knop) Subject: RDCBM.COM author Message-ID: <1991Mar12.063709.10392@nntp-server.caltech.edu> Does anybody know a current E-mail address for the author of the CP/M program RDCBM.COM, which reads Commodore disks from the C128's CP/M mode? I would be interested in getting ahold of the source code for that program. I tried the address given by the program, ihp4!killer!sentinel, but that didn't seem to work. Thanks, -Rob Knop ------------------------------ Date: 14 Mar 91 15:48:09 GMT From: jeh@cs.duke.edu (Justin Harlow) Subject: Re: Kaypro 10 backup Message-ID: <668965688@globe02.cs.duke.edu> In article <901@adaptive.UUCP> casey@asi.com (Casey Bahr) writes: > >Also, while I'm here, does anyone know of a source for a PD C compiler for this >beastie? > There used to be a tom of PD stuff out there, but the sources have pretty well dried up. I do have a copy of "Small C" for my Kaypro-10, It's a real though; slow, limited syntax, no include function (recompile stdio.h every time, for instance....), and worse. I'll send you a copy if I haven't thoroughly discouraged you yet. J. E. Harlow Reply to harlow@src.org, please -- Department of Computer Science, Duke University, Durham, NC 27706 Internet: jeh@cs.duke.edu UUCP: mcnc!duke!jeh ------------------------------ Date: 14 Mar 91 00:37:45 GMT From: elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!samsung!spool.mu.edu!munnari.oz.au!uniwa!vax7!nmurrayr@decwrl.dec.com (Ron Murray) Subject: Re: RDCBM.COM author Message-ID: <7422.27df3659@cc.curtin.edu.au> In article <1991Mar12.063709.10392@nntp-server.caltech.edu>, rknop@nntp-server.caltech.edu (Robert Andrew Knop) writes: > Does anybody know a current E-mail address for the author of the CP/M program > RDCBM.COM, which reads Commodore disks from the C128's CP/M mode? I would be > interested in getting ahold of the source code for that program. I tried the > address given by the program, ihp4!killer!sentinel, but that didn't seem to > work. > > Thanks, > > -Rob Knop Think I wrote one in Turbo Pascal about 3 years ago, but I can't remember the details (I'm only the one who wrote it ...). I will look. ....Ron -- =============================================================================== Internet: Murray_RJ@cc.curtin.edu.au | "You can lead a horse to ACSnet: Murray_RJ@cc.cut.oz.au | water, but if you can Bitnet: Murray_RJ%cc.curtin.edu.au@cunyvm.bitnet | get him to float on his UUCP : uunet!munnari.oz!cc.curtin.edu.au!Murray_RJ | back you've really got Amateur Packet Radio: VK6ZJM@VK6BBS.#WA.AUS.OC | something" TCP/IP: 44.136.204.14, 44.136.204.19 | -- Murphy's Law I =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: 12 Mar 91 17:27:59 GMT From: math.fu-berlin.de!uniol!unido!horga!veeble!proppi@uunet.uu.net (Paul Lenz) Subject: Re: Small Comm Program(s) Message-ID: <1991Mar12.172759.6948@veeble.han.de> In article pevans@cynic.wimsey.bc.ca (Phillip Evans) writes: >Hello everyone _ I want to know the smalles comm programs for CP/M. All >I need are terminal capabilities, ASCII capture, and Xmodem. The best >one will be shoehorned into 63K of EPROM which is why size is a premium. My terminal program is SMODEM.COM with Xmodem (CRC). I have the source code, and you can delete everything you don't need. Proppi proppi@veeble.han.de ...!unido!horga!veeble!proppi Paul Lenz Friesenstrasse 22 D-3000 Hannover 1 =--> Remember: Rock'n'Roll and CP/M never die! <--= ------------------------------ Date: 12 Mar 91 11:47:03 GMT From: agate!bionet!uwm.edu!wuarchive!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!unix.cis.pitt.edu!fmgst@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Filip Gieszczykiewicz) Subject: S100 cage wanted Message-ID: <102329@unix.cis.pitt.edu> Greetings. I'm looking for a nice and sturdy S100 card cage. WHAT I WANT: 1) 8 to 21 slots 2) not too heavy (ie. UPS shippable :-) 3) card guides (plastic - preferably anti-static) 4) I would prefer a wire-wrapped backplane 5) good quality 6) cost below $50.00 obo WHAT I DON'T WANT BUT CAN LIVE WITH: 1) power supply (I have a nice 1,200W, already) 2) sheet-metal cage (weight considerations) I think that's about it. I plan to use this for a non-S100 project (custom wire-wrap). I'll pay shipping (providing it's rational :-) E-mail if you have something that fits the above description. Take care. -- _______________________________________________________________________________ "The Force will be with you, always." It _is_ with me and has been for 11 years Filip Gieszczykiewicz "... a Jedi does it with a mind trick... " ;-) FMGST@PITTVMS or fmgst@unix.cis.pitt.edu "My ideas. ALL MINE!!" ------------------------------ Date: 12 Mar 91 11:47:03 GMT From: usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!unix.cis.pitt.edu!fmgst@ucsd.edu (Filip Gieszczykiewicz) Subject: S100 cage wanted Message-ID: <102329@unix.cis.pitt.edu> Greetings. I'm looking for a nice and sturdy S100 card cage. WHAT I WANT: 1) 8 to 21 slots 2) not too heavy (ie. UPS shippable :-) 3) card guides (plastic - preferably anti-static) 4) I would prefer a wire-wrapped backplane 5) good quality 6) cost below $50.00 obo WHAT I DON'T WANT BUT CAN LIVE WITH: 1) power supply (I have a nice 1,200W, already) 2) sheet-metal cage (weight considerations) I think that's about it. I plan to use this for a non-S100 project (custom wire-wrap). I'll pay shipping (providing it's rational :-) E-mail if you have something that fits the above description. Take care. -- _______________________________________________________________________________ "The Force will be with you, always." It _is_ with me and has been for 11 years Filip Gieszczykiewicz "... a Jedi does it with a mind trick... " ;-) FMGST@PITTVMS or fmgst@unix.cis.pitt.edu "My ideas. ALL MINE!!" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Mar 91 07:56 EDT From: Brainwave Surfer Subject: wordstar! wanted, Attention Doug Platt! Dear Doug, I'd like to buy your copy of WordStar. Please get to me. Jim Agnew /^^^\ \ / Jim Agnew AGNEW@VCURUBY.BITNET, / > || Neurosurgery, AGNEW@RUBY.VCU.EDU /\_/ ' \ / MCV-VCU This tape will self destruct in /________________> Richmond, Va five seconds. Good luck, Jim..." ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V91 Issue #56 ************************************ 17-Mar-91 17:21:58-MST,8123;000000000000 Mail-From: W8SDZ created at 17-Mar-91 17:15:32 Return-Path: Date: Sun, 17 Mar 91 17:15:32 MST From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V91 #57 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Message-ID: <910317171532.V91N57@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> INFO-CPM Digest Sun, 17 Mar 91 Volume 91 : Issue 57 Today's Topics: need disk expansion module for Xerox 820-II Need power supply for Osborne Exec... Re: CPM Emulator for an AT? Re: Kaypro 10 backup Re: VT100 emulation Re: VT100KAY.LBR problems ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 16 Mar 91 19:13:27 GMT From: vax5.cit.cornell.edu!bqsy1@cu-arpa.cs.cornell.edu (Andrew R. Orndorff) Subject: need disk expansion module for Xerox 820-II Message-ID: <1991Mar16.151327.3426@vax5.cit.cornell.edu> I recently posted a similar message to misc.forsale.computers, but I'll ask here too. Does anyone have a disk expansion module (DEM) for the Xerox 820-II that they'd be willing to part with for a reasonable price? I'm looking to expand my system a little bit, and need the flexibility of the hard drive and 5.25" floppy that the DEM would allow me to use. Oh, I don't need the actual drives themselves really, just w/o the drives, but I'll consider anything...so don't me off if you have a DEM but don't want to part it out. Thanks. -- Andrew Orndorff CIT, Research & Analysis Cornell University Internet: bqsy1@vax5.cit.cornell.edu Bitnet: bqsy1@crnlvax5 ------------------------------ Date: 14 Mar 91 21:41:32 GMT From: seas.gwu.edu!jeff@uunet.uu.net (Jeff Schilling) Subject: Need power supply for Osborne Exec... Message-ID: <2862@sparko.gwu.edu> Howdy, I looking for a replacement power supply for an Osborne Executive. It was made by Astec, Model #9355 65W with 5v@5a, +12v@1.5a, +12v@2.1a and -12v@.25a. While a direct replacement would be nice, any comparable ps with equal or greater ratings would do, providing it fits in the case. (The current one measures about 8x4x2 in.) Any pointers would be appreciated. Thanx in advance. -Jeff +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Jeff Schilling School of Engineering Computing Facility | | Internet: jeff@seas.gwu.edu George Washington University | | UUCP: ...!uunet!gwusun!jeff Washington, DC 20009 | | (202) 994-6853 | | System Programmer | +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ Date: 13 Mar 91 18:42:08 GMT From: celit!fpssun!mbn@ucsd.edu (Mike Northam ext 2651) Subject: Re: CPM Emulator for an AT? Message-ID: <12779@sns4.fps.com> In article <8674@pbhyf.PacBell.COM> blholli@PacBell.COM (Brian Holliday) writes: | | MatchPoint-PC and the UniDOS board are made by: | | Micro Solutions, Inc. | 132 West Lincoln Highway | DeKalb, Illinois 60115 | (815) 756-3411 | | And I purchased UniDOS from: | | Emerald Microware | 12470 S.W. First St. | P.O. Box 1726 | Beaverton, Oregon 97075 | (sorry, don't know the phone #) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ (503) 641-8088 hope this helps -- Mike Northam mbn@fpssun.fps.com Home:123 11' 40"W 45 37' 14"N (503) 641-3151 x2651 {tektronix}!fpssun!mbn *FPS Computing has a company spokesperson, and it's certainly not me* "Every now and then things become clear." Jane Siberry, "The Walking" ------------------------------ Date: 14 Mar 91 16:05:11 GMT From: simasd!baron!pnet07!donm@nosc.mil (Don Maslin) Subject: Re: Kaypro 10 backup Message-ID: <1991Mar14.160511.13724@simasd.uucp> casey@asi.com (Casey Bahr) writes: >I just became the proud owner of a Kaypro 10, and I'm wondering if anyone has >any ideas about methods or devices I could use to regularly backup the 10M >hard drive? It seems prudent especially in light of the firm warnings to use >"safety" before turning off the power. I'm sure I'll forget that more than >once or have a power outage while running sometime and I'd like to be able >to restore things. I hope I don't have to transfer everything through the >floppy drive. > I wouldn't worry too much about using 'safety' unless you are in a big hurry to shut down. The K10 is set up such that when the '10 meg' LED is out, the heads have been parked. 'Safety' simply does this before the time-out. As regards backup, the floppy is the logical answer. Sorry! >Also, while I'm here, does anyone know of a source for a PD C compiler for this >beastie? > Perhaps someone else can help you on that. Keeper of the CP/M System Disk | UUCP: {nosc ucsd crash ncr-sd}!pnet07!donm Archives for the Dino(saur)SIG | ARPA: simasd!pnet07!donm@nosc.mil - San Diego Computer Society - | INET: donm@pnet07.cts.com ------------------------------ Date: 11 Mar 91 18:05:04 GMT From: simasd!baron!pnet07!donm@nosc.mil (Don Maslin) Subject: Re: VT100 emulation Message-ID: <1991Mar11.180504.29530@simasd.uucp> PHR00JG%TECHNION@TAUNIVM.TAU.AC.IL ("Jacques J. Goldberg") writes: >4-Who knows David's new e-mail address so I can send him that patch, in > case there is any general interest in it? The last address that I have for David is !wet!pallio!dg and is a couple of months old. You might try it, Jacques. - don Keeper of the CP/M System Disk | UUCP: {nosc ucsd crash ncr-sd}!pnet07!donm Archives for the Dino(saur)SIG | ARPA: simasd!pnet07!donm@nosc.mil - San Diego Computer Society - | INET: donm@pnet07.cts.com ------------------------------ Date: 17 Mar 91 18:36:08 GMT From: zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!uupsi!sunic!dkuug!diku!ankh@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu (Klaus Ambrass) Subject: Re: VT100KAY.LBR problems Message-ID: <1991Mar17.183608.26443@odin.diku.dk> cwcst1@unix.cis.pitt.edu (Carol Coates) writes: > Greetings. I must have taken a mouthfull of that stupidity-potion. > That file, VT100KAY.AZM, is *ALREADY* uncompressed! Sorry about > that last post, folks. Well, I had that prob myself once. Way back then, it was due to the packing format applied by who ever packed the file in the first place. I have an Amstrad cpc6128 and found that sometimes, when you CRUNCH a file you can UNCR it, but not UNCRLZH it. I know it sounds loony, but the two programs are in fact different. Maybe you have them same prob here. I dunno. You might try to TYPE the file and look at the displayed content. If you get something containing a string of text that looks like a filename within the 100 bytes or so, it probably IS still packed - one way or the other. Perhaps your file is simply renamed? (probably tried that already, but don't blame me for telling you the obvious though :-)) Oh, another stupid thing I got worked out only last month is that SOME people (Amsters) really use the PC's LHARC packing format to crunch the files they want packed. I found that a small tool - LHRD - can extract files from PC's *.LZH to CP/M standard files. If you still have a troublesome file then Kill The Bastard! > It hit me, after I had a snack... lack of calories, I guess ;-) We'll come back to that later. > Take care. Now, make up your mind! -- B-) | aka: ankh@diku.dk | +-------------------------------------------------------| Department Of | |"If you're free tonight, call me, | Computer Science, | | and I'll come around and tie you up again." | Univ. of Copenhagen | ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V91 Issue #57 ************************************ 18-Mar-91 18:20:55-MST,11112;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Mon, 18 Mar 91 18:15:16 MST From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V91 #58 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Message-ID: <910318181517.V91N58@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> INFO-CPM Digest Mon, 18 Mar 91 Volume 91 : Issue 58 Today's Topics: Hard Disk Skew K10 and a BBS? Re: About CP/M-80 emulator on PC AT Re: Sharp MZ5600 running DOS ? Re: VT100KAY.LBR problems Sharp MZ5600 running DOS ? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 15 Mar 91 21:51:44 GMT From: zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!ut-emx!austex!roadhog@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu (Lindsay Haisley) Subject: Hard Disk Skew Message-ID: I have a Kaypro 10 with a TurboROM and a Seagate ST-125 21 meg 3.5 in hd. I used the Advent ADVFMT program to set up the drive, using a skew of 1, the same, I suppose as an interleave of 1:1. The drive access seems slow, compared, for instance to another K-10 I have (my BBS) with a ST-251-1 5.25 in. 40 meg hd. Are there any programs out there that anyone knows of which will give one information on the optimum skew for a particular machine/hd combination. The controller is the original Western Digital WD-1002. Lindsay Haisley "Everything works if you let it!" --- Travis J. Redfish ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ uucp: austex!roadhog@emx.utexas.edu BBS: 512-259-1261 (Znode 77 - aka - Kaypro Club of Austin) ------------------------------ Date: 18 Mar 91 05:57:56 GMT From: zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!unix.cis.pitt.edu!fmgst@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu (Filip Gieszczykiewicz) Subject: K10 and a BBS? Message-ID: <104098@unix.cis.pitt.edu> Greetings. I'm sorry to say that my CP/M days are numbered - I'm finally getting a 486 (with a 200MB ide, SVGA, etc :-) and I have to make up my mind on what to do with my Kaypro 10 :-( I can do any of the following (or you can suggest something else): 1) I am considering getting a TurboROM (I know, I know... I've been saying this for a while.. ;-) since I already have a 30MB and the standard 10MB drive (40MB total) and run a BBS. We have a local BBS that has some CP/M stuff - something like 600K - not much, really. I plan to fill up the drives with stuff from simtel - I already have all of the Kaypro and ZCPR 3.3 stuff :-) I have a nice ZCPR 3.3 setup and people have told me that it will be much easier to run a BBS on my setup that on stock CP/M 2.2 (anyone comment?) I just got the hang of zex and the wheel "business"... Anyways, anyone can recomment a decent BBS package? Space is not a problem but I would like the system to be "nice" to both the people who are seasoned CP/M users and to those who just got a CP/M machine for $25 :-) Anyone? 2) Sell my K10 as it is - I'm thinking against this since I'm in the local computer club and there aren't that many CP/M people in the club (if I withdraw, there will be 2 :-) so I might just keep it to keep the group "reasonably" alive... 3) Trash the K10 motherboard and put in a passive backplane with a CPU (IBM-on-a-board) card and a HD and FD controller. That way I have a portable PC... the floppy drive is IBM compatible, so is the HD, and I think I can get the display to work with a MDA card (if not, I can always get a CRT that fits and DOES work with MDA). If that's the case, the MB is up for grabs :-) 4) Sell my K10 on the net :-( I'm really interested in #1 - make a BBS out of it. I already put 2 more 3 1/4" fans so I don't think 24H operation will hurt it. All I need now is the software. I'm open to suggestion. Take care. Please use e-mail when replying. P.S. I'll take a look at the simtel BBS stuff tonight and report on it's performance this week.. (well, _next_ week) -- _______________________________________________________________________________ "The Force will be with you, always." It _is_ with me and has been for 11 years Filip Gieszczykiewicz "... a Jedi does it with a mind trick... " ;-) FMGST@PITTVMS or fmgst@unix.cis.pitt.edu "My ideas. ALL MINE!!" ------------------------------ Date: 15 Mar 91 21:20:35 GMT From: pilchuck!dataio!fnx!del@uunet.uu.net (Dag Erik Lindberg) Subject: Re: About CP/M-80 emulator on PC AT Message-ID: <904@fnx.UUCP> In article <9103110804.AA04098@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> MONTARON@FRP8V11.BITNET (Alexandre Montaron) writes: >Hello| > > I've juste bought MEDIA-MASTER v5.01 which now include a CP/M-Z80 >software emulator... for PC XT or AT... I have Media Master. It's a *great* product for copying various formats of CPM disks to MessyDos, but it's emulation of CPM was pretty poor. I couldn't get Zork to give a nice looking display :-) I found Z80MU to be a much better product for emulation. > It emulator either Z80, 8080 (software), and for which who have a >NEC V20 instead of a intel processor: 8080 (hardware)... because this chip The latest version (the commercial version) of Z80MU also supports this, although Joan recommends against it due to some (unspecified) bugs in the 8080 emulation of the V20. > This emulator permit to acces I/O port... To acces RS232C for example (|) The commercial version of Z80MU also allows access to I/O ports. >And they have add a new Bdos fonction which permit to call any PC's bios fnct > But it simply emulator a CPM22 (or perhaps a ZCPR because of the LIST cmd?) > But it exist... Try it | Bye| Alex. I have not gotten the auto-install version of ZCPR to work with Z80MU, because there is no real BDOS, just a funny little 256 byte trap area. I suspect that Media Master would suffer from the same deficiency(?). Regarding Z80MU: It is an impressive product. I tried the commercial version and did not like it, for a very application specific reason. I actually run Unix, with an MSDOS emulator, running the CPM emulator. The new commercial version of Z80MU has gobs of screen output with formatting and cursor addressing junk. Probably looks great on a regular PC, but in this particular configuration screen I/O is expensive. My application is a database written many years ago when I was running CPM exclusively and is too expensive to port. I find disk operations are considerably faster than the old 4Mhz Z80 floppy only system. CPU intensive stuff is noticeably, but not objectionably, slower than the Z80. (This is on a 20Mhz 386, under VP/IX). Screen I/O on the Z80MU freeware version is slow, but not painfull. Under the commercial version it is just unacceptable (Note that this is probably not the case running under standard MSDOS where direct screen I/O is really direct). BUT: I picked up a PC BLUE Z80 coprocessor for a good price, and when installed in an otherwise worthless XT I found an excellent CPM machine. Running at a full 4Mhz, combined with the XT's fast disk I/O and 40MB of hard disk, it makes an excellent solution. This is not really CPM, in that you work at the dos prompt, and all normal DOS tools are available (such as a real 'make' which I never had under CPM, and real date stamping, etc), while the CPM programs automatically run under the coprocessor and exit back to dos when done. The real disadvantage is that I have to work on the XT machine instead of the much preferrable Unix machine. Now if I could just get a coprocessor that would run under Unix, I might have the perfect setup :-) -- del AKA Erik Lindberg uunet!pilchuck!fnx!del Who is John Galt? ------------------------------ Date: 14 Mar 91 17:53:31 GMT From: mcsun!ukc!mucs!p4.cs.man.ac.uk!vanaards@uunet.uu.net (Steven van Aardt) Subject: Re: Sharp MZ5600 running DOS ? Message-ID: Does anyone out there, know how I can go about converting this CP/M '86 based machine to run DOS ? I believe that someone has got DOS 2.1 running on it, if so I'd be very grateful if you could reply. Steven van Aardt. -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- - JANET E-mail : vanaards@uk.ac.man.cs.p4 (Steven van Aardt) -- -- Warning this user has been designated for termination on the 21.6.91 -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: 18 Mar 91 12:27:55 GMT From: csusac!sactoh0!ijpc!ianj@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu (Ian Justman) Subject: Re: VT100KAY.LBR problems Message-ID: <9g9Zy1w164w@ijpc.UUCP> ankh@diku.dk (Klaus Ambrass) writes: > cwcst1@unix.cis.pitt.edu (Carol Coates) writes: > > > > Greetings. I must have taken a mouthfull of that stupidity-potion. > > That file, VT100KAY.AZM, is *ALREADY* uncompressed! Sorry about > > that last post, folks. > > Well, I had that prob myself once. > Way back then, it was due to the packing format applied by who ever packed > the file in the first place. > I have an Amstrad cpc6128 and found that sometimes, when you CRUNCH a > file you can UNCR it, but not UNCRLZH it. I know it sounds loony, but the ^^^^^^^^^^^ FALSE, FALSE, FALSE!!!!!! > two programs are in fact different. (flamethrower on maximum and enjoying it!!!!) YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY DEAD WRONG!!!!!! I USE UCRLZH.COM TO UNCRUNCH ?Z? FILES ALL THE TIME!!!!!! (flamethrower brought down to minimum) IF YOU WANT TO MAKE ME EAT MY WORDS, TRY IT!!! I know I'm right about this one. I know because I've used it. Have YOU tried it? UCRLZH11.COM _WILL_ uncrunch ?Q?, ?Z?, and ?Y? files. What you just said is one of the biggest crocks I've ever seen! (flamethrower off) Sorry about that. I had to get you with this one with the fullest possible permissible setting on my flamethrower without cussing (if it WAS permitted, I would have said and/or called you some real doozies). Mainly because I use the program ALL THE TIME and I _KNOW_ what it can do. ------------------------------ Date: 14 Mar 91 13:22:35 GMT From: mcsun!ukc!mucs!p4.cs.man.ac.uk!vanaards@uunet.uu.net (Steven van Aardt) Subject: Sharp MZ5600 running DOS ? Message-ID: Steven van Aardt. -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- - JANET E-mail : vanaards@uk.ac.man.cs.p4 (Steven van Aardt) -- -- Warning this user has been designated for termination on the 21.6.91 -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V91 Issue #58 ************************************ 19-Mar-91 19:57:01-MST,9055;000000000000 Mail-From: W8SDZ created at 19-Mar-91 19:46:34 Return-Path: Date: Tue, 19 Mar 91 19:46:34 MST From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V91 #59 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Message-ID: <910319194635.V91N59@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> INFO-CPM Digest Tue, 19 Mar 91 Volume 91 : Issue 59 Today's Topics: Flame returned (was Re: VT100KAY.LBR problems) Re: Small Comm Program(s) (2 msgs) Re: VT100KAY.LBR problems (2 msgs) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 19 Mar 91 05:47:26 GMT From: waikato.ac.nz!comp.vuw.ac.nz!actrix!ewen@decwrl.dec.com (Ewen McNeill) Subject: Flame returned (was Re: VT100KAY.LBR problems) Message-ID: <1991Mar19.054726.11637@actrix.gen.nz> In article <9g9Zy1w164w@ijpc.UUCP> ianj@ijpc.UUCP (Ian Justman) writes: > ankh@diku.dk (Klaus Ambrass) writes: > > > Well, I had that prob myself once. > > Way back then, it was due to the packing format applied by who ever packed > > the file in the first place. > > I have an Amstrad cpc6128 and found that sometimes, when you CRUNCH a > > file you can UNCR it, but not UNCRLZH it. I know it sounds loony, but the > ^^^^^^^^^^^ FALSE, FALSE, FALSE!!!!!! > > two programs are in fact different. > > (flamethrower on maximum and enjoying it!!!!) > > YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY DEAD WRONG!!!!!! > > I USE UCRLZH.COM TO UNCRUNCH ?Z? FILES ALL THE TIME!!!!!! > And YOU don't really know what you are talking about. I have had the same problems as Klaus has had -- I also own a CPC6128. The problem he describes is exactly true, for the CPC6128. There is a bug (somewhere) in the Bios. I am going to have to go reverse-engineering it (there is no Bios source available to my knowledge). FTR, I have successfully used UCRLZH to uncrunch files (.?Z?), so it definately does work. This was not off the floppy drives on the Amstrad, however (this is where the bug is). So the real answer is that you are both right.... :-) Sortof. > IF YOU WANT TO MAKE ME EAT MY WORDS, TRY IT!!! I know I'm right > about this one. I know because I've used it. Have YOU tried it? > UCRLZH11.COM _WILL_ uncrunch ?Q?, ?Z?, and ?Y? files. What you > just said is one of the biggest crocks I've ever seen! If you own an Amstrad, and you haven't had any problems, I would love to hear what you do. Otherwise, YOU don't know exactly what you are talking about. May I suggest, in future, that you don't jump in with all guns blazing (to mix metaphors), and instead find out why the person made the statement? Also, FTR, the reason that one program works (UNCR), and another doesn't (UNCRLZH), seems to be connected with the amount of register preservation they do, the amount of use they make of the extra Z80 registers, what they actually call, and a few other things. For instance, unzip (David Goodenough) doesn't work too well on the Amstrad drives for some reason. It works fine off my Ram disk (the patch for which appears to have been made (autoinstall program) at a higher level than the bug) however. [BTW, this is nothing against David's program -- it SHOULD work perfectly on the Amstrad, and does on other systems] Unarc (I forget who wrote it at the moment), on the other hand, works perfectly. I looked through the source, and saw lots of places where it used the extra registers very carefully, and preserved them all the way through (interupts off), etc. The comments mentioned problems with extra register usage on "various computers". Further information, (for those with advice rather than flames!), it appears that everytime this bug occurs the same piece of code/whatever is copied into the disk-sector buffer, rather than the sector required. Only 128 bytes long, but morethan enough to scamble anything that is supposed to be being decompressed. I discovered this when one of my editors (ZDE - I don't have any source to check what it does) had the same problem. One more little thing to note, the problem doesn't occur all the time, and as far as I can tell it happens at random. This cannot be true, but I haven't discovered what causes it yet. One possible lead is that sometimes a file will fail, and then if the operation is tried again after resetting the drives, it will work. [This is CP/M+, BTW, the drives are supposed to auto-reset when needed] Sorry, everyone, that this has got this long. It was intended to rebut the flame, but the opportunity to seek others opinion on the problem couldn't be missed. Any useful suggestions are welcomed, and any off-the-cuff flames will be dealt with in a suitable manner (ie, probably ignored!). -- Ewen McNeill. Email: ewen@actrix.gen.nz ------------------------------ Date: 16 Mar 91 04:05:17 GMT From: usc!samsung!munnari.oz.au!brolga!bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au!marlin.jcu.edu.au!zlraa@ucsd.edu (Ross Alford) Subject: Re: Small Comm Program(s) Message-ID: <1991Mar16.040517.17637@marlin.jcu.edu.au> In article <1991Mar12.172759.6948@veeble.han.de> proppi@veeble.han.de (Paul Lenz) writes: >In article pevans@cynic.wimsey.bc.ca (Phillip Evans) writes: >>Hello everyone _ I want to know the smalles comm programs for CP/M. All >>I need are terminal capabilities, ASCII capture, and Xmodem. The best >>one will be shoehorned into 63K of EPROM which is why size is a premium. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^!!! This is CP/M, not Mess-Dos. I've never seen ANY comms program for CP/M bigger than about 40K or so, and that is MEX1.14, which does all sorts of tricks. I suspect that just about any program you pick will fit on a 64K ROM. I'd suggest trying MDM7XX, for which the full source is (or was, ca 1984) available on SIMTEL. You can always cut out things you don't want. Ross Alford zlraa@marlin.jcu.edu.au -- Ross A. Alford Department of Zoology Internet: zlraa@marlin.jcu.edu.au James Cook University Phone: +61 77 81 4732 Townsville, Qld 4811 Australia ------------------------------ Date: 18 Mar 91 17:36:00 GMT From: zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!casbah.acns.nwu.edu!nucsrl!tellab5!laidbak!amiganet!austral!rrezaian@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu (Russell Rezaian) Subject: Re: Small Comm Program(s) Message-ID: Just to throw my own 2d in, if you are looking for term programs for CP/M that you can readily find source to, you might want to try Kermit. I know the source is availabe, that is how it is distributed. I have the 4.0 source, and I have modified it to work with some of my stranger machines, so it is VERY flexible that way. The only problem I can see, and this applies for most of the other programs too, I think, is that most of the CP/M programs that I am familiar with don't maintain the strict segregation of code and data space that is essential if you are going to run the prog off of the ROM. You may be forced to move the entire routine to RAM as part of your startup, and then page the ROM out. The only other alternative is going through hundreds of K of assembler source trying to movde all of the data stores to wherever in your memory map you have some RAM, not my idea of fun. Good Luck! -- +-------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ | Russell Rezaian | amiganet.chi.il.us!austral!rrezaian | | P.O. Box 479 | | | Naperville, Il. 60566-0479 | "One is best punished for one's | | USA | Virtues." Nietzsche. | +-------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ Date: 16 Mar 91 12:51:25 GMT From: pasteur!agate!stanford.edu!snorkelwacker.mit.edu!usc!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!unix.cis.pitt.edu!cwcst1@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Carol Coates) Subject: Re: VT100KAY.LBR problems Message-ID: <103802@unix.cis.pitt.edu> Greetings. I must have taken a mouthfull of that stupidity-potion. That file, VT100KAY.AZM, is *ALREADY* uncompressed! Sorry about that last post, folks. It hit me, after I had a snack... lack of calories, I guess ;-) Take care. ------------------------------ Date: 20 Mar 91 08:08:40 GMT From: waikato.ac.nz!comp.vuw.ac.nz!am.dsir.govt.nz!marcamd!mercury!kcbbs!kc@decwrl.dec.com (Antony Warbrooke) Subject: Re: VT100KAY.LBR problems Message-ID: <1991Mar20.080840.286@kcbbs> How would I get a copy of the library VT100KAY.LBR ??? As I come from New Zealand I don't really want to make any large Toll Calls to the States and was wondering if anyone knew of any place in N.Z. that would have a copy of this file??? Any help would be most appreciated!!! Thanks in advance! ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V91 Issue #59 ************************************ 21-Mar-91 10:21:56-MST,12728;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Thu, 21 Mar 91 10:15:18 MST From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V91 #60 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Message-ID: <910321101519.V91N60@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> INFO-CPM Digest Thu, 21 Mar 91 Volume 91 : Issue 60 Today's Topics: Apple II/CPM communications prog? Cromemco Z-2D need docs for random S100, Weird Stuff Re: Flame returned (was Re: VT100KAY.LBR problems) Re: Z-80 Softcard Question??? Z-80 softcard question??? Z8001 and C900... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 19 Mar 91 16:09:41 GMT From: hpda!hpcuhc!mck@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Doug McKenzie) Subject: Apple II/CPM communications prog? Message-ID: <2050001@hpcuhc.cup.hp.com> My Dad has an Apple II (possibly II+, not IIe) with a CPM card, off which he runs in particular Wordstar. However, his only communications program runs on Apple DOS, making him unable to edit email very well, or hack up responses to news articles :-). Could anyone offer a recommendation for a (public domain hopefully) CPM communication program that works on an Apple? Thanks a lot! Doug McKenzie HP HP-UX Support mck@cup.hp.com or ...hplabs!hpda!mck 408 447-4428 ------------------------------ Date: 20 Mar 91 17:47:33 GMT From: zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uwm.edu!ogicse!usenet!prism.CS.ORST.EDU!peterse@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu (Erik Petersen) Subject: Cromemco Z-2D Message-ID: <1991Mar20.174733.28627@lynx.CS.ORST.EDU> I have a Cromemco Z-2D computer system running version 2.36 of CDOS (a CP/M derivative). What I would like to know is, does anyone out there have such a system and, if so, do you have a hard- drive? I need to know what the part number is on the controller and what kind of interface the controller expects to the harddrive (ST-506 perhaps?) Of course, if you want to sell your harddrive and controller, I'm interested. Thank you. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Erik Petersen (Home Phone: 753-1829) peterse@mist.cs.ORST.EDU ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: 20 Mar 91 20:59:15 GMT From: hoptoad!curt@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Curt Mayer) Subject: need docs for random S100, Weird Stuff Message-ID: <16322@hoptoad.uucp> I managed to snag some nice S100 boards from Weird Stuff in Santa Clara at absurd prices. anyway, i need documentation or pointers, or even "thats garbage" on a few of them. DTC 10-1 sasi/scsi host adaptor. Dual Dmem 256k memory card Dual Emem 1M memory card UCI Easyram 2M memory card CCS streaming tape interface JB systems fd/sasi interface JB systems Z80 slave processor DPC-180 looks like 64k z80 slave board CCS 4 port serial I've got docs for just about all morrow and compupro cards, so if anybody has a need for that kind of thing, get in touch. -- curt mayer cmayer@oracle.com curt@hoptoad.UUCP 415-387-0217 home 415-506-2504 work ------------------------------ Date: 20 Mar 91 08:43:43 GMT From: csusac!sactoh0!ijpc!ianj@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu (Ian Justman) Subject: Re: Flame returned (was Re: VT100KAY.LBR problems) Message-ID: ewen@actrix.gen.nz (Ewen McNeill) writes: > And YOU don't really know what you are talking about. I have had the > same problems as Klaus has had -- I also own a CPC6128. The problem he > describes is exactly true, for the CPC6128. There is a bug (somewhere) > in the Bios. I am going to have to go reverse-engineering it (there is > no Bios source available to my knowledge). (stuff deleted along the way) > FTR, I have successfully used UCRLZH to uncrunch files (.?Z?), so it > definately does work. This was not off the floppy drives on the > Amstrad, however (this is where the bug is). > > Sorry, everyone, that this has got this long. It was intended to rebut > the flame, but the opportunity to seek others opinion on the problem > couldn't be missed. > > Any useful suggestions are welcomed, and any off-the-cuff flames will be > dealt with in a suitable manner (ie, probably ignored!). My deepest apologies. I guess I assumed that all BIOSes were pretty much well-behaved and it seems to be restricted to some BIOSes. Also, it probably has something to do with the fact that those computers are running CP/M Plus, which I've heard can be flakey at times. That's why I stick with my CP/M 2.2 stuff (highly uprated w/ZCPR33 and stuff like that...) ------------------------------ Date: 21 Mar 91 09:39:51 GMT From: csusac!sactoh0!ijpc!ianj@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu (Ian Justman) Subject: Re: Z-80 Softcard Question??? Message-ID: <5ok6y1w164w@ijpc.UUCP> umsmit72@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Kenneth G. Smith) writes: > > I have recently obtained a CP/M card for my Apple II+ computer (without > documentation) and was wondering if anyone could help me out with a few > questions... > > 1) The card has four binary switches on it. They are all set to the > OFF position. I was wondering what exactly these switches are for. Two turn interrupts on and off, one deals with memory mapping (the Z80 card remaps the system's memory rather radically to take into account that Pages 0-3 are sacred to the 6502, but you can alternatively switch that mapping off to make the Z80 see it as the 6502 sees it; for CP/M to work properly, you MUST turn mapping on because you don't want the 6502 and the Z80 throwing each other curves... (grin). Also, the point needs to be made that the card in question, the Softcard, distributed by Microsoft, as in the ORIGINAL Softcard, not the Softcard //e, talks DIRECTLY to the Apple hardware just like the 6502 does. In fact, when the Z80 has control, it puts the 6502 to sleep (I believe it does nothing more than execute wait states).), and the remaining one controls how the card interfaces to the Apple DMA daisy chain. The switches are like this: sw1 sw2 sw3 sw4 MEM MAP DMA IRQ/INT NMI <--- SAME ON BOTH DAISY ^ ^ CHAIN | |_ Z80 NAME |_____ 6502 NAME Sw1: On: Disables memory remapping Off: Enables memory remapping (Apple CP/M default) Sw2: On: When DMA daisy chain input is dropped low, the Z80 will drop what it's currently doing to let a high-priority device do some DMA and relinquish control back to the 6502 Off: Won't stop at all no matter what priority device is requesting DMA ___ ___ Sw3: On: Hooks the Z80's NMI line up with the Apple's NMI line on the expansion bus so the Z80 will be interrupted upon receipt of a non-maskable interrupt. The Softcard recommends that interrupts, maskable or not, should be handled by the 6502 which also sees the interrupt, so it can clear its interrupt status and return control back to the Z80. Off: Disconnects the line. ___ ___ Sw4: On: Hooks the Z80's INT line up with the Apple's IRQ line on the expansion bus. Discussion is the same as above. Off: Disconnects the line. The default settings for the switches should be all of them off for Apple CP/M to work properly. > 2) Of the several disks I obtained with the card, I have a program > called 'NULU' which deals with libraries. I was wondering what the > purpose of a library is and how you go about using one. I have > only one '.LBR' file on the disks called 'LUX42.LBR' (on the modem7 > program disk) and haven't been able to manipulate the data in it to > any great extent (other than listing it's members using 'NULU'). LUX will deal with libraries too, but they're designed for RCP/M's. To extract the LBR's contents (provided they're not compressed), type "-x" and then a drive/file specification, most often times the file specificaiton will be "*.*" to extract everything. If you were to type "-x b:*.*" at the NULU prompt in an open library, that means to extract all the files to drive B:, but it won't unsqueeze the files if they're squeezed (those files, often times, will have a "Q" as the second letter of the file's extension). For those files, use "-q" instead of "-x". To unsqueeze all files with Q as the second letter of the file type, type "-q b:*.?Q?" which will unsqueeze (or try to) all files with the letter "Q" as the second letter in the file type. Most CP/M programs with multiple files are in the .LBR format, but there are the occasional .ARK, .ARC, and .ZIP files. > I believe the card is refered to as a Z-80 Softcard and doesn't appear > to have any manufacturer's markings on it. Therefore, I don't believe > it is actually an Apple made card. As I said a couple of paragraphs ago, they were distributed by Microsoft. > Can anyone enlighten me soas I may get the maximum use out of this > system. I have used the CP/M OS with some success and really like what > it does for my rather modest system. If you have used CP/M on other computers, then using CP/M program on the Apple will be more or less the same as you have used them on, say an Osborne, a Kaypro, an SBC, or an S-100 box. However, if you plan to do a lot of stuff between operating systems, particularly in ProDOS, I very much suggest that you get a program called "Chameleon" which runs under Apple ProDOS and will transfer between all four major diskette formats, i.e. DOS 3.3, ProDOS (you'll need this to run Chameleon), Pascal (it will only support the 5 1/4" variety, I believe), and CP/M. Have fun! ------------------------------ Date: 20 Mar 91 15:13:00 GMT From: rochester!uhura.cc.rochester.edu!ee.rochester.edu!rochgte!f242.n260.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Tom.Rieger@cu-arpa.cs.cornell.edu (Tom Rieger) Subject: Z-80 softcard question??? Message-ID: <319.27E7E18C@rochgte.fidonet.org> -> 2) Of the several disks I obtained with the card, I have a program -> called 'NULU' which deals with libraries. I was wondering what the -> purpose of a library is and how you go about using one. I have -> only one '.LBR' file on the disks called 'LUX42.LBR' (on the modem7 -> program disk) and haven't been able to manipulate the data in it to -> any great extent (other than listing it's members using 'NULU'). NULU will also allow you to extract the member files. Use the -H command to see a listing of the various options available in NULU. A library file is simply a method of grouping certain files together into one file for transfer or storage. Often the files are also compressed in some way as well (squeezed, crunched etc...) T_RIEG@f242.n260.z1.fidonet.org -- Tom Rieger - via FidoNet node 1:260/230 UUCP: {smart-host}!ur-valhalla!rochgte!242!Tom.Rieger INTERNET: Tom.Rieger@f242.n260.z1.FIDONET.ORG ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Mar 91 07:55:13 EDT From: Alexandre Montaron Subject: Z8001 and C900... Hello| First thing... about ZP/EM (Media Master)... i haven't test it at all, but it emulat really faster than Z80MU... In Z80MU each BIOS function and BDOS entry point are replaced by the HALT instruction (which is trap) i think it's also true for ZP/EM but i've not look at | What's the price of Z80MU commercial release? To the person who have a Amstrad CPC 6128 (like me) where are you? In europe i suppose... In U.K. ? In Frence (like me...) ? Does a HARD DISK exist for the Amstrad ??? Other thing... I perhaps will bought a prototype Unix machine made by COMMODORE... His name is C900, it works with a Z8001 (i suppose you know it?), it has a HD 20Mo, one floppy 5"1/4, 512Ko de RAM... OS: Unix Beta0.9 this is also four RS232C, a monochrome terminal... The price is 3000Fr so about $600 ... Doesany one ever heard of this machine... i'll ask in the COMMODORE group | Bye| Alexandre Montaron ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V91 Issue #60 ************************************ 22-Mar-91 04:22:58-MST,10559;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Fri, 22 Mar 91 04:15:41 MST From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V91 #61 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Message-ID: <910322041542.V91N61@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> INFO-CPM Digest Fri, 22 Mar 91 Volume 91 : Issue 61 Today's Topics: About Amstrad' Bios bug | Cromemco z-2d Dead Otrona Attache Help with Kaypro terminal emulation Re: Flame returned (was Re: VT100KAY.LBR problems) Re: Z8001 and C900... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 21 Mar 91 20:48:49 EDT From: Alexandre Montaron Subject: About Amstrad' Bios bug | Hello| I'm happy (in fact no) that someone else has found the bug... which replace a good sector (a CPM's block of 128 bytes) by anything else... But if you typed ^C (equal to Bdos fnct number 13) it will work perfectly| I thought it is because of my ram-disk (DK'tronics 256Ko)... because one of my friend has a CPC w/o ram-disk and all work well| I've a clue about the bug All read & write disk access pass throught buffer (see BCB=Buffer Control Blk) There's at all 32Ko of buffer (as tou can call cache disk|) located on bank number 2 if i remember well. If the patch of the ram-disk alter this area it will bug when CPM attempt to save this block (perhaps it's the patch itself|) Because ^C flush (but not save) all buffer to disk... I think the answer is near | Make a list of BCB, search buffer & verify content of all buffer... to solve the bug you have to minimize buffers... It's my opinion... What do YOU thing of this ? I've the OPERATOR's AND PROGRAMMER's GUIDE for the AMSTRAD CPC6128 & PCW8256 by Digital Research Inc. & Amstrad Consumer Electronics plc... it's a very good book but it doesn't talk about the BIOS... and BCB (buffers) are manage by the BIOS (see also DPH=Disk Parameter Header... which contain a pointer to the first BCB...) I've an other book which talk about the BIOS but it's very short | Does someone have a better book which talk about programming (not using|) CP/M+ include BIOS part please... Thanks... I hope i've forgetten anything... Alex Montaron ------------------------------ Date: 22 Mar 91 06:31:00 GMT From: magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!ub!uhura.cc.rochester.edu!ee.rochester.edu!rochgte!f242.n260.z1.FIDONET.ORG!David.Barnes@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu (David Barnes) Subject: Cromemco z-2d Message-ID: <325.27E9B6A9@rochgte.fidonet.org> Erik; I have quite a bit of Cromemco equipment here, a couple of systems have hard disks, 1 has an 8inch IMI and the other has a 5.25 inch IMI (20 meg)... Cromemco had a couple of different hard disk controllers, the WDI and WDI-II boards were the earliest, then the STDC card came along, (st506 interface)... I have lots of docs if you are interested also... What do you use your machine for??? Do you have CROMIX??? David Barnes -- David Barnes - via FidoNet node 1:260/230 UUCP: {smart-host}!ur-valhalla!rochgte!242!David.Barnes INTERNET: David.Barnes@f242.n260.z1.FIDONET.ORG ------------------------------ Date: 21 Mar 91 16:29:46 GMT From: csusac!kaos!colu@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu (Luke Coletti 408-647-3736) Subject: Dead Otrona Attache Message-ID: <1991Mar21.162946.8947@kaos.mbari.org> A dead Otrona Attache was placed on my doorstep late one night, with its rightfull quardiansi, and probably gratefull ones at thati, no where to be found. Actually the Otrona for its time was quite the little box, a color graphics capability ect, I am quite impressed with its contruction as well. To bring it back to life I'll need to find someone who either was with the company or has a set of schematics. Symtoms are a totally inactive bus, so no monitor functions, the cpu was replaced and the ROMs examined no change. Any help would be appreciated. Luke MBARI colu@hp850.mbari.org ------------------------------ Date: 21 Mar 91 02:38:20 GMT From: ogicse!adaptive!asi.com!casey@decwrl.dec.com (Casey Bahr) Subject: Help with Kaypro terminal emulation Message-ID: <905@adaptive.UUCP> Sorry if this belongs in the FAQ file. I'm trying to use a modem communications program on my Kaypro 10. It appears to be a derivative of MDM730 (sic?). The on-line documentation, however, doesn't give me a clue as to what type of terminal it's emulating, which is where I'm having trouble. Somewhere else in other documentation I remember seeing that the Kaypro emulates a Lear-Siegler adm3a, so that's how I've tried setting the termcap on the Unix (Sun) machine I'm trying to connect to. Everything except vi seems to be working ok (TERM and TERMCAP in my environment look right for an adm3a). In vi I get a garbled screen that makes editing pretty difficult. I remember long ago using a Kaypro II and I think the same comm. pgm., but I don't remember how I got around this problem. I'm pretty illiterate in this area, so I'm hoping someone in this group can enlighten me or provide some heuristics to getting the termcap set properly. Or maybe direct me to a different comm. package. I do have a printed document for SUPRTERM, which says it emulates an adm3a, but I can't find that software on any of my disks. Thanks in advance, Casey Bahr casey@asi.com | ogicse!adaptive!casey | uunet!adaptive!casey Adaptive Solutions, Inc., 1400 NW Compton Dr. Suite 340, Beaverton, OR 97006 VOICE: (503) 690.1236 /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ FAX: (503) 690.1249 ------------------------------ Date: 21 Mar 91 21:23:30 GMT From: waikato.ac.nz!comp.vuw.ac.nz!actrix!ewen@decwrl.dec.com (Ewen McNeill) Subject: Re: Flame returned (was Re: VT100KAY.LBR problems) Message-ID: <1991Mar21.212330.21080@actrix.gen.nz> [I would send this by Email, but this site (way off in NZ), doesn't know about the UUCP psuedo-domain, and just bounces the stuff. Sorry, everyone else.] In article ianj@ijpc.UUCP (Ian Justman) writes: > [In reply to a flame rebuttal from ewen@actrix.gen.nz (Ewen McNeill)] > My deepest apologies. I guess I assumed that all BIOSes were > pretty much well-behaved and it seems to be restricted to some > BIOSes. Also, it probably has something to do with the fact that > those computers are running CP/M Plus, which I've heard can be > flakey at times. That's why I stick with my CP/M 2.2 stuff > (highly uprated w/ZCPR33 and stuff like that...) Your apology is accecpted. I have heard a fairly large number of BIOSes which have problems with various things - most written for Z80 machines in the days when 8080 code was the most common, so they assumed that they had the extra registers to themselves. This is no longer true. I doubt that the fact they are running CP/M+ has anything to do with it. CP/M+ seems okay to me, most of the time. Occassionaly it fails to relog in a disk, but that is only because of the way it detects a new disk (directory checksumming). No where near as much hassle as logging in disks under 2.2! The trouble with the Amstrad implementation of CP/M 2.2 is that they used a graphics screen (all the machine has - bit map 16K), which steals most of the useful memory. There is only about 42K TPA - hardly enough to do anything. -- Ewen McNeill. Email: ewen@actrix.gen.nz ------------------------------ Date: 21 Mar 91 10:01:16 GMT From: csusac!sactoh0!ijpc!ianj@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu (Ian Justman) Subject: Re: Z8001 and C900... Message-ID: MONTARON@FRP8V11.BITNET (Alexandre Montaron) writes: > Hello| > > First thing... about ZP/EM (Media Master)... i haven't test it at all, > but it emulat really faster than Z80MU... In Z80MU each BIOS function and > BDOS entry point are replaced by the HALT instruction (which is trap) > i think it's also true for ZP/EM but i've not look at | > What's the price of Z80MU commercial release? I've never heard of that one. Who puts that one out? I would like to kick the tires on that one. As for the "HALT" instruction, it does seem a logical way to write a software emulation of the BIOS. As for how MS-DOS picks it up, curious how that would work. Nick Sayer wrote someting similar, but this is under UNIX. > To the person who have a Amstrad CPC 6128 (like me) where are you? > In europe i suppose... In U.K. ? In Frence (like me...) ? > Does a HARD DISK exist for the Amstrad ??? You might want to try either Emerald MicroWare (whose address I could go and snag) if anyone wants it) or any type of controller that plugs into the Z80 slot. Most of these controllers come with software that will talk to the hard disk no matter what kind of machine it's running on. I've seen such a setup which even comes with source code for its BIOS so it's possible for me to get a system like this for my Ampro (for which I have source for its BIOS _AND_ main ROM) such that the entire BIOS which will talk to both hard and floppy disks is entirely self-contained, and can even boot from the hard disk and not have to boot only from the floppy and manually (or semiautomatically) run a hard drive initialization program (not format, but put routines up so the system can talk to the hard drive). > Other thing... I perhaps will bought a prototype Unix machine made by > COMMODORE... His name is C900, it works with a Z8001 (i suppose you know > it?), it has a HD 20Mo, one floppy 5"1/4, 512Ko de RAM... OS: Unix Beta0.9 > this is also four RS232C, a monochrome terminal... > The price is 3000Fr so about $600 ... > Doesany one ever heard of this machine... i'll ask in the COMMODORE group | > Bye| Alexandre Montaron Gads, you have me salivating!!!!! I know this part of the message belongs elsewhere, but I thought I'd ask this: Will it be available in the US? If so, that could finally put purely UNIX machines in the hands of commoners. Then I could gloat as my pro-MESSY-DOS friends are dumbfounded of what it could do. ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V91 Issue #61 ************************************ 23-Mar-91 01:34:33-MST,9904;000000000000 Mail-From: W8SDZ created at 23-Mar-91 01:27:40 Return-Path: Date: Sat, 23 Mar 91 01:27:39 MST From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V91 #62 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Message-ID: <910323012740.V91N62@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> INFO-CPM Digest Sat, 23 Mar 91 Volume 91 : Issue 62 Today's Topics: 8080 macro cross-assembler to run under unix 9600 Baud Kermit for the 128 Kaypro TurboROM Re: Apple II/CPM communications prog? (2 msgs) Re: Help with Kaypro terminal emulation (2 msgs) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 22 Mar 91 18:14:47 GMT From: eru!hagbard!sunic!news.funet.fi!tut!nn86302@bloom-beacon.mit.edu (Niilo Neuvo) Subject: 8080 macro cross-assembler to run under unix Message-ID: I'm looking for a 8080 macro cross-assembler to run under unix. Our site had a program called zmac, which is fo Z80 and the manual page says: The Zmac assembler is modeled after the Intel 8080 macro cross-assembler for the Intel 8080 by Ken Borgendale. So does anyone know the name of this program, where to get it from or how to contact Ken Borgendale. The only thing left of zmac here is the manual page, so I can`t check the sources either. So finding a ftp site that has zmac would propbaly help me a lot. Please respond by mail. And please note that this article is a crossposting. -- NN NN NN NN NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN NNNN N NN N NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN NNNNNN N NN N NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN NNNNNNNN NN NN NN NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN ------------------------------ Date: 23 Mar 91 02:35:10 GMT From: magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!samsung!noose.ecn.purdue.edu!gn.ecn.purdue.edu!rferguso@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu (Robert S. Ferguson) Subject: 9600 Baud Kermit for the 128 Message-ID: <1991Mar23.023510.3540@gn.ecn.purdue.edu> Is there a version of Kermit for the Commodore 128 that will support 9600 baud? The c128 can support 9600, but the version of Kermit that I have runs in the 64 mode, and only goes up to 2400 baud. Kermit is the only file transfer program that works with my UNIX account. By the way, I have never really used the cp/m mode of my 128, so I would need some way of running cp/m Kermit off of Commodore formated disks. I have no problem downloading binaries in 64 mode, except that it is very slow. My system includes a c128, 1571 drive, and an 80 column monitor. Thanks in advance, I have previously posted to this newsgroup the information that the TurboROM for the Kaypro CP/M computers is available from Jay Sage (Sage Microsystems East). This is incorrect. Jay Sage does NOT sell the TurboROM. TThe Advent TurboROM for the Kaypros is available from Charles B. Stafford, 4000 Norris Ave., Sacramento, CA 95812, phone 916-483-0312. He has bought out the stock from the now defunct Advent Corp. and is marketing it from his home. He has a variety of items from Advent's old line, including the WD-1002 controllers, decoder boards, etc. "Everything works if you let it!" --- Travis J. Redfish ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ uucp: austex!roadhog@emx.utexas.edu BBS: 512-259-1261 (Znode 77 - aka - Kaypro Club of Austin) ------------------------------ Date: 22 Mar 91 08:19:26 GMT From: csusac!sactoh0!ijpc!ianj@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu (Ian Justman) Subject: Re: Apple II/CPM communications prog? Message-ID: <4mB8y2w164w@ijpc.UUCP> ianj@ijpc.UUCP (Ian Justman) writes: > mck@hpcuhc.cup.hp.com (Doug McKenzie) writes: << various stuff deleted >> > > Could anyone offer a recommendation for a (public domain hopefully) CPM > > communication program that works on an Apple? > > > > Thanks a lot! > > I've gotten ZMP and Qterm (and subsequently UUCP, but I haven't > tested it) to run on SoftCard-equipped Apple II Plus myself. But > I need to know what kind of Z80 card you're using. If you're > using a Microsoft SoftCard, ALS's Z-Card or Z-Engine, or an > Applied Engineering Z-80 card, I can help you. If it's ALS's > CP/M card or PCPI's AppliCard, I cannot help you. I forgot to mention that both Qterm and ZMP are both public domain and very good programs. ------------------------------ Date: 22 Mar 91 08:11:34 GMT From: csusac!sactoh0!ijpc!ianj@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu (Ian Justman) Subject: Re: Apple II/CPM communications prog? Message-ID: mck@hpcuhc.cup.hp.com (Doug McKenzie) writes: > My Dad has an Apple II (possibly II+, not IIe) with a CPM card, off which he > runs in particular Wordstar. However, his only communications program runs > on Apple DOS, making him unable to edit email very well, or hack up > responses to news articles :-). > > Could anyone offer a recommendation for a (public domain hopefully) CPM > communication program that works on an Apple? > > Thanks a lot! > > Doug McKenzie > HP HP-UX Support > mck@cup.hp.com or ...hplabs!hpda!mck > 408 447-4428 I've gotten ZMP and Qterm (and subsequently UUCP, but I haven't tested it) to run on SoftCard-equipped Apple II Plus myself. But I need to know what kind of Z80 card you're using. If you're using a Microsoft SoftCard, ALS's Z-Card or Z-Engine, or an Applied Engineering Z-80 card, I can help you. If it's ALS's CP/M card or PCPI's AppliCard, I cannot help you. ------------------------------ Date: 22 Mar 91 18:25:03 GMT From: baron!baron!pnet07!donm@nosc.mil (Don Maslin) Subject: Re: Help with Kaypro terminal emulation Message-ID: <1991Mar22.182503.201@simasd.uucp> casey@asi.com (Casey Bahr) writes: > >I'm trying to use a modem communications program on my Kaypro 10. >It appears to be a derivative of MDM730 (sic?). The on-line >documentation, however, doesn't give me a clue as to what type of >terminal it's emulating, which is where I'm having trouble. Somewhere >else in other documentation I remember seeing that the Kaypro emulates >a Lear-Siegler adm3a, so that's how I've tried setting the termcap >on the Unix (Sun) machine I'm trying to connect to. Everything >except vi seems to be working ok (TERM and TERMCAP in my environment >look right for an adm3a). In vi I get a garbled screen that >makes editing pretty difficult. I remember long ago using a Kaypro II >and I think the same comm. pgm., but I don't remember how I got around >this problem. > >I'm pretty illiterate in this area, so I'm hoping someone in this >group can enlighten me or provide some heuristics to getting the >termcap set properly. Or maybe direct me to a different comm. package. >I do have a printed document for SUPRTERM, which says it emulates an >adm3a, but I can't find that software on any of my disks. > To my knowledge, all of the public domain communication packages use overlays to tailor them to a particular computer. Therefore, if your MDM730, or whatever, runs on your KP-10 there is a very high probability that it has the Kaypro's ADM-3 emulation built in. If it would be useful to you, I could uue Superterm and send it off to you. However, in my opinion it is a less desirable program. Of the old standbys, my personal preference would be for MEX114. - don Keeper of the CP/M System Disk | UUCP: {nosc ucsd crash ncr-sd}!pnet07!donm Archives for the Dino(saur)SIG | ARPA: simasd!pnet07!donm@nosc.mil - San Diego Computer Society - | INET: donm@pnet07.cts.com ------------------------------ Date: 22 Mar 91 21:49:15 GMT From: att!emory!ogicse!intelhf!ptdcell0!snelson@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Shannon Nelson) Subject: Re: Help with Kaypro terminal emulation Message-ID: <1991Mar22.214915.17774@intelhf.hf.intel.com> In article <1991Mar22.182503.201@simasd.uucp> donm@pnet07.cts.com (Don Maslin) writes: >To my knowledge, all of the public domain communication packages use overlays >to tailor them to a particular computer. Therefore, if your MDM730, or >whatever, runs on your KP-10 there is a very high probability that it has the >Kaypro's ADM-3 emulation built in. > The Kaypro uses a superset of the adm3a terminal commands. The kp enhancements make it much easier to live with, as the adm3a is rather simple minded. To help a little, here's the kaypro termcap file that I've been using for several years. Converting it to terminfo is easy enough with captoinfo. ky|kaypro:am:cr=^M:do=^J:nl=^J:bl=^G:\ :le=^H:bs:cm=\E=%+ %+ :cl=1^Z:co#80:ho=^^:li#24:ma=^K^P:nd=^L:up=^K:\ :dl=\ER:al=\EE:\ :kd=^J:ku=^K:kl=^H:kr=^L:\ :ce=^X:cd=^W:\ :dC=3:dT=3: -- ============================================================================== Shannon Nelson Portland Technology Development, Intel snelson@ptd.intel.com (503) 642-8149 I don't speak for Intel Parents can't afford to be squeemish. ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V91 Issue #62 ************************************ 24-Mar-91 17:26:33-MST,13991;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Sun, 24 Mar 91 17:15:07 MST From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V91 #63 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Message-ID: <910324171509.V91N63@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> INFO-CPM Digest Sun, 24 Mar 91 Volume 91 : Issue 63 Today's Topics: Osborne Executive printing problems Re: 8080 macro cross-assembler to run under unix Re: About Amstrad' Bios bug | Re: Flame returned (was Re: VT100KAY.LBR problems) Re: Kaypro TurboROM Re: Z8001 and C900... Wanted: CPM for Imsai 8080 w/Imsai floppy disk drive ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 23 Mar 91 13:38:55 GMT From: zephyr.ens.tek.com!tektronix!reed!campbell@beaver.cs.washington.edu (Chris Campbell) Subject: Osborne Executive printing problems Message-ID: <16243@reed.UUCP> I've been having a major problem with my Osborne Executive since I acquired it about three years ago. I had been able to work around it for awhile, but about two weeks ago said problem became very pesky, and the other people using the machine haven't been able to work around it since then. (I've been separated from the machine by an ocean and one and a half continents for about two months.) The problem is this: printing. The Executive (ROM 1.21, BIOS 1.2 Enhanced) had never properly loaded the printer information on boot-up from SETUP.COM. Specifically, what was connected to the CENTRONICS port: no matter how it was permanently saved, it would respond NONE when I asked to see what the settings were in memory. (When I asked it to show the settings from drive A, it would invariably inform me that the printer was connected and was presumably ready.) As a result, whenever I wanted to print, I would have to exit the program (usually WS), load SETUP, load the information from the drive into memory, exit SETUP, reload the other program, and print. This would work for as long as I did not reset or shut down the computer. This worked for quite a while, and wouldn't waste much time. However, this doesn't work anymore. Now, after twiddling with SETUP so that it recognizes the printer, the Executive will refuse to load any other program, and will crash violently. (This problem began with PrintMaster (which could be worked around) but spread to WordStar (fatal).) I've tried to fix the original problem many times, playing with SETUP, alt- ernating BIOS versions (despite the other printing problems, such as the notorious "Unassign this device?"), and am now at wit's end. Any suggestions? Chris Campbell campbell@reed.bitnet campbell@reed.edu ------------------------------ Date: 22 Mar 91 22:14:32 GMT From: agate!bionet!uwm.edu!spool.mu.edu!news.nd.edu!mentor.cc.purdue.edu!descartes.math.purdue.edu!wilker@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Clarence Wilkerson) Subject: Re: 8080 macro cross-assembler to run under unix Message-ID: <8555@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> I think you can get zmac on simtel20 under unix-c. It's not same syntax as Microsoft M80, or DRI MAC. There was an 8080 macro assembler written in small-c by Hendriks ???? called SMAC or some such, that was m80 compatible and produced relocatable code. As far as I know, zmac only produced hex and binary. If you're not committed to emulating some particular cp/m assembler, the macros can be done under unix with cpp or m4, so the essential piece is the assembler itself. Yet another suggestion is to run a CP/M emulation under unix. You lose a lot of CPU speed, but for assemblies the diskio may dominate anyway. To see how this works, rlogin in as "cpm" at hopf.purdue.edu. This kicks you into a cp/m 2.2 emulation program. Change to drive B: and run "mac bios " to get an idea of how fast the emulation is for your purpose. Clarence Wilkerson . ------------------------------ Date: 24 Mar 91 19:11:04 GMT From: comp.vuw.ac.nz!actrix!ewen@uunet.uu.net (Ewen McNeill) Subject: Re: About Amstrad' Bios bug | Message-ID: <1991Mar24.191104.4553@actrix.gen.nz> In article <9103220804.AA26926@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> MONTARON@FRP8V11.BITNET (Alexandre Montaron) writes: > Hello| I'm happy (in fact no) that someone else has found the bug... > which replace a good sector (a CPM's block of 128 bytes) by anything else... > But if you typed ^C (equal to Bdos fnct number 13) it will work perfectly| Oh, no, it is not just anything else. It is always the same. I had a 360K file which I was reading through after putting it through a naughty program (text file, BTW). There were 15 problems in it (15/2000 or so is not too bad, but not too good). Everytime there was the same string. Always. This has happened in the past. The string includes some NULLs (0), as well, but basically starts like this "s^L^s|FF|FFx@ff I thought it is because of my ram-disk (DK'tronics 256Ko)... because one of > my friend has a CPC w/o ram-disk and all work well This is interesting. I haven't been able to test it without the ram disk, because I have had the software installed for ages (and it is hard to test for something which is intermittent). At one stage I did think that it was something to do with the patch put on for the ram disk, and I started disassembling that. I ran out of time (near end of year, and I am a student....:-( It looks as though I should go back to this. Thought -- how old is your CPC? Mine is a model A. I wonder if this has anything to do with the problem (ie, a bug fix in later versions?). > I've a clue about the bug > There's at all 32Ko of buffer (as tou can call cache disk|) located on bank > number 2 if i remember well. If the patch of the ram-disk alter this area it > will bug when CPM attempt to save this block (perhaps it's the patch itself|) > Because ^C flush (but not save) all buffer to disk... This sounds like what I was thiking of, although I hadn't got as far as exploring the buffering. If you are able to do what you are suggest please do so. For my part, I will continue my disassembly of the patch. dk'tronics are too far gone to be able to fight about the reverse engineering, or help with a bug fix. > I've the OPERATOR's AND PROGRAMMER's GUIDE for the AMSTRAD CPC6128 & PCW8256 > by Digital Research Inc. & Amstrad Consumer Electronics plc... it's a very > good book but it doesn't talk about the BIOS... and BCB (buffers) are manage > by the BIOS (see also DPH=Disk Parameter Header... which contain a pointer to > the first BCB...) I've an other book which talk about the BIOS but it's very > short | Indeed it is sad. What do you have which talks about the BIOS? We really need something which talks about the Amstrad BIOS, or better still a disassembly. I will ask someone who does a lot of CP/M programming here if they have any good books. Anyway, I am pleased to see that I am not alone. This also tends to suggest to me that I was on the right track disassembling the patch for the silicon disk. If I can only find the disk it was on (1 of about 200....) I will go back to it. BTW, are there any other Amstrad CPC owners out there with this problem? -- Ewen McNeill. Email: ewen@actrix.gen.nz ------------------------------ Date: 23 Mar 91 00:55:31 GMT From: eru!hagbard!sunic!mcsun!ukc!axion!tharr!nowster!pm@bloom-beacon.mit.edu (Paul Martin) Subject: Re: Flame returned (was Re: VT100KAY.LBR problems) Message-ID: Ewen McNeill (ewen@actrix.gen.nz) wrote these words: > And YOU don't really know what you are talking about. I have had the > same problems as Klaus has had -- I also own a CPC6128. The problem he > describes is exactly true, for the CPC6128. There is a bug (somewhere) > in the Bios. I am going to have to go reverse-engineering it (there is > no Bios source available to my knowledge). Are you sure you are running the CPM+ supplied with your 6128? > For instance, unzip (David Goodenough) doesn't work too well on the Amstrad > drives for some reason. It works fine off my Ram disk (the patch for > which appears to have been made (autoinstall program) at a higher level > than the bug) however. [BTW, this is nothing against David's program -- > it SHOULD work perfectly on the Amstrad, and does on other systems] Voila! Non-standard system. I have an Amstrad CPC 464 with 512K banked RAM, and the 6128 ROM. I have used David Goodenough's UNZIP program every day for the last 9 months without a single problem, even with 200K ZIP files. I have just tried UCRLZH11 on a ?Q?, a ?Z? and a ?Y? file with no problems. May I hazard a guess that you're running ZCPR or similar, or something else non-standard? -- Paul Martin ..!uunet!tharr!pm.nowster | CP/M systems never die - they pm.nowster@tharr.uucp (pm111@tharr.uucp) | just get more BIOSed with age. <-- tharr *free* public access to Usenet in the UK --> ------------------------------ Date: 24 Mar 91 00:28:43 GMT From: csusac!sactoh0!ijpc!ianj@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu (Ian Justman) Subject: Re: Kaypro TurboROM Message-ID: roadhog@austex (Lindsay Haisley) writes: > I have previously posted to this newsgroup the information that the TurboROM > for the Kaypro CP/M computers is available from Jay Sage (Sage Microsystems > East). This is incorrect. Jay Sage does NOT sell the TurboROM. TThe > Advent TurboROM for the Kaypros is available from Charles B. Stafford, 4000 > Norris Ave., Sacramento, CA 95812, phone 916-483-0312. He has bought out > the stock from the now defunct Advent Corp. and is marketing it from his > home. He has a variety of items from Advent's old line, including the > WD-1002 controllers, decoder boards, etc. > > > "Everything works if you let it!" > --- Travis J. Redfish > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > uucp: austex!roadhog@emx.utexas.edu > BBS: 512-259-1261 (Znode 77 - aka - Kaypro Club of Austin) Hi, Lindsay! Just thought I'd interject this; I know Chuck myself, and if you want to send a message to him (he is presently not on the net), send it to me and I will see to it that he gets it. He and I are members of the local Kaypro group. BTW, just wondering, Lindsay, do you have NovaDOS Release J ready yet? ------------------------------ Date: 23 Mar 91 18:14:41 GMT From: casbah.acns.nwu.edu!nucsrl!tellab5!laidbak!amiganet!austral!rrezaian@ucsd.edu (Russell Rezaian) Subject: Re: Z8001 and C900... Message-ID: In article ianj@ijpc.UUCP (Ian Justman) writes: >MONTARON@FRP8V11.BITNET (Alexandre Montaron) writes: >> Other thing... I perhaps will bought a prototype Unix machine made by >> COMMODORE... His name is C900, it works with a Z8001 (i suppose you know >> it?), it has a HD 20Mo, one floppy 5"1/4, 512Ko de RAM... OS: Unix Beta0.9 >> this is also four RS232C, a monochrome terminal... >> The price is 3000Fr so about $600 ... >> Doesany one ever heard of this machine... i'll ask in the COMMODORE group | >> Bye| Alexandre Montaron > >Gads, you have me salivating!!!!! I know this part of the >message belongs elsewhere, but I thought I'd ask this: Will it >be available in the US? If so, that could finally put purely >UNIX machines in the hands of commoners. Then I could gloat as >my pro-MESSY-DOS friends are dumbfounded of what it could do. Yes this is wrong place, but the thread has already started. The C900 seems to be one of many Commodore European orphan machines, if you are interested in UNIX then look to the Amiga 3000 UX, this machine is based off of the Amiga 3000 68030 platform, is already in final beta stages, and is the first machine out there to run UNIX SV r4. Drool drool drool!!! I have talked with a Commodore rep and supposedly it will sell with the entire UNIX package, X.11 and I think it was open look, NFS(TCP/IP), an ethernet board, a 200 meg hard drive and either 6 or 8 megs of ram for well under 10,000. The system also will support the 24bit color card that is coming out soon... By the way, it will also turn into an Amiga 3000 with just a slightly different boot up procedure (you use the mouse to pull up a boot menu and click on Amiga or UNIX for what you want). This isn't a chep machine, but it is a nice looking low end workstation, and it blows away anything I have seen in the Mac arena... -- +-------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ | Russell Rezaian | amiganet.chi.il.us!austral!rrezaian | | P.O. Box 479 | | | Naperville, Il. 60566-0479 | "One is best punished for one's | | USA | Virtues." Nietzsche. | +-------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ Date: 23 Mar 91 19:57:21 GMT From: littlei!intelhf!agora!batie@uunet.uu.net (Alan Batie) Subject: Wanted: CPM for Imsai 8080 w/Imsai floppy disk drive Message-ID: <1991Mar23.195721.11948@agora.rain.com> I managed to pick up an Imsai, and would like to do *something* with it. So, does anyone know where I can get CPM for it? -- Alan Batie Some people believe they have batie@agora.rain.com never met a gay person. +1 503 640-4013 That's what we get for hiding. ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V91 Issue #63 ************************************ 27-Mar-91 22:07:12-MST,9316;000000000000 Mail-From: W8SDZ created at 27-Mar-91 21:58:14 Return-Path: Date: Wed, 27 Mar 91 21:58:13 MST From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V91 #64 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Message-ID: <910327215814.V91N64@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> INFO-CPM Digest Wed, 27 Mar 91 Volume 91 : Issue 64 Today's Topics: Adding a hard disk to an O1 - How to? Amstrad BIOS problems -- Moderately Long Epson Geneva Quantum Hard Drive Re: Flame returned (was Re: VT100KAY.LBR problems) VT180 bios information needed ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 25 Mar 91 20:42:24 GMT From: llnl.gov!fitzgerald3@lll-winken.llnl.gov (Kirk Fitzgerald) Subject: Adding a hard disk to an O1 - How to? Message-ID: <93918@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV> I have an Osborne 1 at home that I would use if I had a hard disk. Any suggestions or ideas? Kirk Have Fun!!! ------------------------------ Date: 27 Mar 91 09:47:31 GMT From: usc!wuarchive!waikato.ac.nz!comp.vuw.ac.nz!actrix!ewen@apple.com (Ewen McNeill) Subject: Amstrad BIOS problems -- Moderately Long Message-ID: <1991Mar27.094731.17147@actrix.gen.nz> [To those who are not interested in the nitty gritty of a fairly annoying bug in a patch to the Amstrad Bios, please skip this message now. Anyone else, feedback is very welcome to ewen@actrix.gen.nz, or to this group] After seeing various peoples thoughts about what the problem with the Amstrad BIOS which causes certain programs not to work properly, I did some experimenting with my Amstrad. The hardware concerned was an Amstrad CPC6128, with serial interface, 512K of extra ram. For the entire of the test, I used David Goodenough's unzip program (wonderful program, despite the problems that Amstrad has), and a 20K Zip file which I picked up somewhere. The first thing I tried was removing all my extra hardware, and using the original boot disk. Unzip from A to B drive, worked fine. The next thing was to reintroduce the hardware. The Unzip still worked fine. I then went back to my normal boot disk (with silicon disk patch), and tried the same thing. It worked fine. Then I started experimenting with variouus combinations of drives, and came up with the following results: ZIP file Output file Error? A A No. A B No. B B No. B A No. C C No. C B No. C A No. A C Yes. B C Yes. These results did not change with various pieces of hardware plugged in, or various patched versions of the CP/M Plus file. Obviously the C drive doesn't exist under unpatched versions, so that couldn't be tested. However, this does rule out one possibility, of the patched mentioned in the Serial Interface "Book of Spells" (for the uninitiated, this book has a picture of a wizard on every page... talk about annoying!). I have tried this patch, and it didn't help. I have also tried the patch for double sided drives (I have one), and it didn't help either. Because of the way that unzip works (decompresses to default drive), decompressing to C drive required a command sequence like: A>c: C>a:unzip a:zipfile.zip e This means that C drive is the current drive. This seemed to be the only time when the bug showed up. I am not sure whether this bug applies to writing, or not, I suspect that it doesn't. [Other evidence supports this, see below] This leads me to the following conclusion: There is a bug in the patch for the silicon disk which causes problems when the silicion disk is the current one, and one of the other drives is read from. This bug is an occassional one, which appears apparently at random. This suggest something like interupts being enabled at the wrong time, or whatever. BTW, every time I have had a failure in this manner (a "faulty" block in a file), I have been logged into C drive (I usually do -- it is a good temporary drive), and reading from a floppy drive (usually B). This tends to confirm my research of today. I am continuing my disassembly of the PATCHER.COM program. I have sorted out most of the program which does the actual patching, but sorting out the bits that are patched over is more of a problem. I am using DazzleStar (my first time, it looks good) to do the disassembly, and it allows me to declare various bits as instructions, bytes, words etc. Very powerful. If anyone wants a copy of the DazzleStar temporary file (which will allow you to look through PATCHER.COM too), let me know. I would appreciate someone else trying to duplicate my results. This may well explain why one poster didn't have any problems, and others of us have. In the mean time, I would advise unzipping either from the floppy drives to the floppy drives, or totally in the ram drive. For your reference, other programs which are affected by this bug: ZDE, Nsweep (only on certain sized files), LT29, FCRLZH, NULU. There are probably plenty more, but those are the ones that I have run across so far. Any suggestions accepted by Email, or to this group. -- Ewen McNeill. Email: ewen@actrix.gen.nz ------------------------------ Date: 26 Mar 91 18:38:55 GMT From: sun-barr!cs.utexas.edu!ut-emx!ccwf.cc.utexas.edu!wdlee@apple.com (david lee) Subject: Epson Geneva Message-ID: <46201@ut-emx.uucp> Anyone know where I might find an Epson Geneva laptop. It's a cute portable CPM machine. Thanks, David ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1991 12:00:17 PST From: Sprague.Wbst311@xerox.com Subject: Quantum Hard Drive Message-ID: <"25-Mar-91 15:00:17 EST".*.Michael_D._Sprague.wbst311@Xerox.com> I have come up with two Quantum Q2080 8" hard drives. Can anybody tell me anything about them? Are they more or less the same as the Shugart SA1004? One thing that IS different is that there does not seem to be an AC power connector for the drive. There is just what looks like the standard six pin DC power connector. ~ Mike (Sprague.Wbst311@Xerox.Com) ------------------------------ Date: 25 Mar 91 18:25:50 GMT From: comp.vuw.ac.nz!actrix!ewen@uunet.uu.net (Ewen McNeill) Subject: Re: Flame returned (was Re: VT100KAY.LBR problems) Message-ID: <1991Mar25.182550.10585@actrix.gen.nz> In article pm.nowster@tharr.uucp (Paul Martin) writes: > Ewen McNeill (ewen@actrix.gen.nz) wrote these words: > > [About certain programs not working too well for some reason on a > > Amstrad CPC6128 running CP/M+] > > Voila! Non-standard system. I have an Amstrad CPC 464 with 512K > banked RAM, and the 6128 ROM. I have used David Goodenough's > UNZIP program every day for the last 9 months without a single > problem, even with 200K ZIP files. This is depressing. Although it doesn't prove anything. However, it does sound as though there is something special about your banked ram, or something. Do you unzip things off the ram drive (I would do this anyway because it is faster -- I only discovered the problem when I had a small ram drive (one bank, instead of the usual two))? This has no problems. It is only off the floppy disks, and it needs to be a pretty big file (in another post I mentioned it happening in 15 128-byte blocks out of about 2000 in a file) for the "random" chance to happen. > May I hazard a guess that you're running ZCPR or similar, or > something else non-standard? I am running CP/M+, as supplied, with a serial interface (no special patch), and a ram disk (and the patch for it). The ram disk consists of both banks of ram, although I have had the same problem with just one bank plugged in. I think I may even have had problems without any ram plugged in, but the patch installed. The serial interface is a possibility, I guess -- who else of those with problems has a serial interface attached to their system? This does make me think of the ram patch as being the problem, so I have started to disassemble it again. If anyone is interested in helping work on this, you will need a copy of PATCHER.COM (out of the ram disk rom), and a copy of DazzleStar. I will send a copy of the DazzleStar temporary file, which defines the symbols, etc. Anyway, it is amazing how many Amstrad users there are out there. Three of us have had problems, and one hasn't. There seems to be little difference between the setups. We have, however, learnt that there is no problem with using the ram drive, but there appears to be with using the floppy drives. On a random basis. Does anyone know different? -- Ewen McNeill. Email: ewen@actrix.gen.nz ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Mar 91 12:36 EDT From: Brainwave Surfer Subject: VT180 bios information needed Guys, i need either: information, bios listing, bios source, or where to go for the bios for a Digital VT180 Robin... Jim agnew@RUBY.VCU.EDT (EDU, NOT EDT) ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V91 Issue #64 ************************************ 29-Mar-91 09:26:20-MST,8529;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Fri, 29 Mar 91 09:17:35 MST From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V91 #65 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Message-ID: <910329091740.V91N65@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> INFO-CPM Digest Fri, 29 Mar 91 Volume 91 : Issue 65 Today's Topics: Comms program for Televideo Portable TPC1 com program needed Help: Documentation, information, et cetera. Re: com program needed Re: Help: Documentation, information, et cetera. SCSI-driver for 5380/8490-SCSI-Chip UUCP for cpm or whereabouts of Dave Goodenough Want to swap 5 inch to 8 inch floppy ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 28 Mar 91 09:40:24 GMT From: elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!sdd.hp.com!spool.mu.edu!munnari.oz.au!mullauna!mikec@lll-winken.llnl.gov (Michael CIAVARELLA) Subject: Comms program for Televideo Portable TPC1 Message-ID: Hi * Does anyone out there know of or have a comms program to suit a televideo TPC1 portable? Its a Z80 based CP/M machine, running (I think) CP/M 2.2. Is there an ftp site availbe which has something along these lines? Thanks, Mike ------------------------------ Date: 27 Mar 91 04:14:00 GMT From: sgi!cdp!mcaldon@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU Subject: com program needed Message-ID: <1099600001@cdp> Does anyone know where I can lay my hands on a communications program that will transmit and receive CP/M files? mcaldon, EcoNet. ------------------------------ Date: 27 Mar 91 18:43:14 GMT From: casbah.acns.nwu.edu!nucsrl!tellab5!laidbak!amiganet!austral!rrezaian@ucsd.edu (Russell Rezaian) Subject: Help: Documentation, information, et cetera. Message-ID: I have a few machines made by a company called OSM, located in CA. The machines are ZEuS 3s and a ZEuS 4, these are multi user CP/M systems. They will support most of the MP/M calls, and will even allows background precesses, but work using mutliple CPUs in a networked configuration. The master provides file system services, print spooling and a few other neat features. I am very fond of these computers, but I have a few problems with the ZEuS 3s. The copy of the os (M.U.S.E.) I have for them only supports 306 cyl 6 head 15meg hard drives, these are impossable to find. Further the systems are now starting to get flaky on boot. One will only boot if an 8 inch floppy is attached, the other (The one I had all my imporatant data on) refuses to boot at all now... If anyone out there has ever heard of these machines, PLEASE mail me, if anyone has any information on what happened to the company, or any people who were involved with it PLEASE mail me. I am lloking for newer versions of the OS (I have 4.1 for the 3s and 4.7 or 8 for the 4) or at least versions of the sysgen that will support other hard drives. If anyone has schematics, or patch information for the BIOS, again I would be most thankful... I am looking for anything I can find. These are really nice machines, I want to be able to keep using them if at all possible. Any help would be wonderful! Thanks. -- +-------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ | Russell Rezaian | amiganet.chi.il.us!austral!rrezaian | | P.O. Box 479 | | | Naperville, Il. 60566-0479 | "One is best punished for one's | | USA | Virtues." Nietzsche. | +-------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ Date: 28 Mar 91 21:45:04 GMT From: baron!baron!pnet07!donm@nosc.mil (Don Maslin) Subject: Re: com program needed Message-ID: <1991Mar28.214504.21008@simasd.uucp> mcaldon@cdp.UUCP writes: > > >Does anyone know where I can lay my hands on a communications program >that will transmit and receive CP/M files? mcaldon, EcoNet. > > For what machine? Keeper of the CP/M System Disk | UUCP: {nosc ucsd crash ncr-sd}!pnet07!donm Archives for the Dino(saur)SIG | ARPA: simasd!pnet07!donm@nosc.mil - San Diego Computer Society - | INET: donm@pnet07.cts.com ------------------------------ Date: 29 Mar 91 15:06:55 GMT From: zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!samsung!noose.ecn.purdue.edu!mentor.cc.purdue.edu!gauss.math.purdue.edu!wilker@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu (Clarence Wilkerson) Subject: Re: Help: Documentation, information, et cetera. Message-ID: <9046@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> Sorry, no experience with Zeus MP/M type stuff. However, on the subject of disk drives, any St-506 innerface drives I've used will cheerfully allow you to use them at less than full capacity. So if the number of logical heads is less than or equal to number of physical head, and same for cylinders, almost any other drive should replace the ones you have. For example, Seagate ST251 's have 6 heads, and 820?? cylinders, and are going new for about $250. Unfortunately, the cheaper bargain drives such as ST225 only have four heads and would not plug right in. If the drive controller is SCSI, then the operating system may think it reading a certain track and sector, but actually eventually asks for an absolute sector number, so if the scsi controller has set the correct parameters the operating system would not know what it has physically. Poke around under the hood and see what kind of hard disk controller is there? Clarence ------------------------------ Date: 28 Mar 91 16:58:06 GMT From: mcsun!cernvax!chx400!chx400!bernina!neptune!iiic.ethz.ch!probst@uunet.uu.net (Probst) Subject: SCSI-driver for 5380/8490-SCSI-Chip Message-ID: <27774@neptune.inf.ethz.ch> Did someone already write SW for the National Semiconductor SCSI Chip DP8490 or the NCR5380-SCSI-Chip? I've got a Seagate ST1096 Harddisk which I'd like to connect to my homebrew Z180-Computer and I don't want to reenvent the reel. I'm looking for the low-level-SW dealing with the SCSI-Chip, the connecting to the disk etc. The BIOS is then no problem, once I've got this SW. I'd be very glad if someone could help me! :-) Thanks in advance, Urs Probst, probst@iiic.ethz.ch, Zurich, Switzerland. ------------------------------ Date: 29 Mar 91 03:08:56 GMT From: synchrods.com!daniel@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Daniel Senderowicz) Subject: UUCP for cpm or whereabouts of Dave Goodenough Message-ID: <9103290308.AA09992@synchrods.synchrods.com> I was wondering if anybody knows where can I get the latest version of uucp for the KayproII. Furthermore I haven't heard of Dave Goodenough since he moved to the west, did he make it or he is still walking? Thanks, Dan. ------------------------------ Date: 28 Mar 91 20:50:36 GMT From: swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!caen!umich!terminator!pisa.citi.umich.edu!rees@ucsd.edu (Jim Rees) Subject: Want to swap 5 inch to 8 inch floppy Message-ID: <50a3eb06.1bc5b@pisa.citi.umich.edu> This has nothing to do with CPM, but I understand you guys are the experts on floppy drives. I've got a computer (Apollo dn330) that has an 8 inch floppy drive that I want to change to a 5 inch. The 8 inch has a capacity of 1.2 Mb, something like a st506 interface (sa850?), and a 50 pin card-edge connector. I've got pinouts for the 50-pin and also for the 34-pin connector used by the 5 inch drives. I'm told that the rotational speed is the same, and I know the sector layout is the same, so I'm assuming that bit rates and signal timings will just fall out for free. 1. Will this work? 2. Is there any chance this will just plug-n-play, or will I have to muck around with the device driver in the OS? 3. What do I do with pin 2 (density) on the 34-pin? I assume tie it high or low -- which is it? 4. What about pin 16, motor-on? Should I tie this high or low, or tie it to pin 4, head-load? 5. What is pin 2 on the 50-pin, RWC? What should I do with it? 6. Any tips on shopping for a 5 inch drive? Will any drive with the 34-pin (sa450?) connector work, as long as it's a 1.2 Meg drive? How much should a floppy cost? The local repair shop has one for US $60, is that OK? ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V91 Issue #65 ************************************ 30-Mar-91 15:27:17-MST,10303;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Sat, 30 Mar 91 15:15:26 MST From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V91 #66 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Message-ID: <910330151527.V91N66@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> INFO-CPM Digest Sat, 30 Mar 91 Volume 91 : Issue 66 Today's Topics: CP/M Sector Interleave Finding System Software. NEC APC need info on OSM Computer Corp. machine Re: CP/M Sector Interleave Re: INFO-CPM Digest V91 #61 (2 msgs) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 29 Mar 91 15:56:04 GMT From: agate!bionet!uwm.edu!cs.utexas.edu!ut-emx!austex!roadhog@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Lindsay Haisley) Subject: CP/M Sector Interleave Message-ID: <6FVkZ1w163w@austex> Can anyone suggest a method or program to me by which I might optimize the sector interleave on a hard drive on a CP/M machine? I have recently installed a Seagate ST-125 (20 meg) hd in my Kaypro 10 and although the drive is speedy, the system seems to run quite sluggishly. The format program (ADVFMT.COM) allows a choice of interleaves, however I'm reluctant to back off and reformat the drive (a job of several hours) until I know the correct value. I would also appreciate help from anyone who can give me precice definitions of the terms skew and interleave. I was under the impression that these terms were the same, referring to the physical spacing between succcessive logical sectors needed to optimize access times, however some of my recent reading has led me to believe that these terms are not interchangable. "Everything works if you let it!" --- Travis J. Redfish ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ uucp: austex!roadhog@emx.utexas.edu BBS: 512-259-1261 (Znode 77 - aka - Kaypro Club of Austin) ------------------------------ Date: 29 Mar 91 21:12:48 GMT From: swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!caen!uflorida!mlb.semi.harris.com!solman.mlb.semi.harris.com!bie@ucsd.edu (Ben Eaton) Subject: Finding System Software. Message-ID: <1991Mar29.211248.16118@mlb.semi.harris.com> Hello! I have come across a "ZORBA" portable computer, that is in good working order but there is no systems disk to go with the unit. I know the following things about this unit: - It was manufactured by: GEMINI ELECTRONICS 130 Baywood Ave. Longwood, FL 32750 - It is a Z80 based machine. - It has two 784K TELCOM 5.24" disk drives. - It uses a CPM operating system. If anyone out there knows where I can aquire a systems disk ( I am willing to pay for it ) or knows how I could reconstruct a systems disk I would like to here from you. Ben I. Eaton (407) 727-0255 P.S. I have already call the manufacturer and they were no help at all. ------------------------------ Date: 29 Mar 91 03:08:59 GMT From: swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!samsung!munnari.oz.au!bruce!labtam!eyrie!niki@ucsd.edu (Nicole Angst) Subject: NEC APC Message-ID: <10075@eyrie.img.uu.oz.au> I have an OLD NEC APC(the original APC), on eof the dual MS-DOS / CPM machines and am looking for some software for it. My manuals include a manual for the extended graphics libraries under MS-DOS but I dont have these libraries and NEC Australia have been less than helpful. I am interested in any other software for this beast and have some user group software and a small C compiler under CPM and a full set of manuals (including hardware!) if any one is interested. niki niki@img.uu.oz.au OR s880721@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au ------------------------------ Date: 29 Mar 91 22:14:13 GMT From: prism!wayward!harold@gatech.edu (Harold C. Forbes) Subject: need info on OSM Computer Corp. machine Message-ID: <25251@hydra.gatech.EDU> Someone gave me a couple of OSM machines with no documentation. If I can find out something about them I would rather use them than break them up for parts. I have a Kaypro 10 so I'm not a novice at CPM, but I'm not up to re-writing a BIOS either. When it boots, I get the following message on one of the ports. If I ^C after it says running, I can do CPM type stuff, like the dir listing following. The floppy seems to be P:, but I can't read the floppy I found in the machine. I think it was origonally used for accounting stuff. I don't know if it was a turn-key system or what. Thanks for any info. harold O S M Computer Corporation Multi-User System Release version 4.75/5.05 09/24/84 Copyright (c) OSM Computer Corporation 1982,1983,1984 Single 12mb, 96tpi floppy MUSE-8/16 Ver 04.78 Initialization sequence... running.... A>dir A: XTALK COM : DDT COM : ALLOCHK COM : TERMCAP SYS A: Z4SY5H01 COM : Z4SY5F01 COM : WSX COM : PRINT COM A: Z4S5H07R COM : BADBLK2 COM : WHO COM : FLBACKUP COM A: EDIT HLP : +XSUB DRV : Z4SY5F03 COM : HRESTORE COM A: HELP COM : LOGON COM : HELP IDX : MEMTEST COM A: MAIL COM : Z4MUSE SYM : NEWDISK COM : STAT COM A: COPY COM : MAIL COM : REHASH COM : TYPE COM A: SETPASSW COM : Z4FMTFL COM : TELECOM SYS : FLARCHIV COM A: +XSUB COM : +SPOOL COM : CHECKSUM DOC : HSHDIR COM A: FLOPPY COM : SETMODE COM : RSPLOAD COM : Z4MUSE/U SYS A: BADBLK1 COM : CSMASK MSK : CS COM : LOAD COM A: CLACRS DAT : CHECKSUM COM : ASM COM : DUMP COM A: EDIT COM : FILES COM : HBUILDER COM : TOFILES A: HELP TXT : PRLTRANS COM : SUBMIT COM : REHASH COM A: TIME COM : TELECOM COM : WDFORMAT COM : Z4SY5H03 COM A: Z4MUSE COM : TOINDEX AGE : CLLCF DAT : WSMSGS OVR A: WSOVLY1 OVR : SPELSTAR OVR : MAILMRGE OVR : CS OV2 A: CS OVR : CSDUMP OVR : INSTCS OVR : BALSHEET CSD A: DEMO CSD : HELP1 CSD : HELPER CSD : INSTCS DAT A: MIKSB200 DAT : CLLTR DAT : CLSYS DAT : SPELSTAR DCT A: SAMPLE TXT : CLS COM : SHUTDOWN COM : WINSTALL COM A: WS COM : CS OV1 : CSDUMP COM : INSTCS COM A: MBASIC COM : Z4S5F07R COM : TOMASTER AGE : 3TOLIST AGE A: 6TOLIST AGE : TO000 OVL : TO100 OVL : TO200 OVL A: TO300 OVL : TO400 OVL : TO900 OVL : TO COM A: CRTCONF COM : APTTEST CSD : SWE FAN : CLLCF BAK A: COPY COM A>dir b: B: Z4S5F07R COM : Z4MUSE SYM : Z4MUSE/U SYS : Z4MUSE COM B: Z4S5H07R COM : NEWDISK COM : COPY COM : WDFORMAT COM B: HSHDIR COM : LOGON COM : CLS COM : CLSYS DAT B: CLLTR DAT : CL COM FORBES, HAROLD C. N5JCM Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332 uucp: ...!{allegra,amd,hplabs,seismo,ut-ngp}!gatech!cc!harold ARPA: harold@cc.gatech.edu FORBES, HAROLD C. N5JCM Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332 uucp: ...!{allegra,amd,hplabs,seismo,ut-ngp}!gatech!cc!harold ARPA: harold@cc.gatech.edu ------------------------------ Date: 30 Mar 91 19:45:03 GMT From: baron!baron!pnet07!donm@nosc.mil (Don Maslin) Subject: Re: CP/M Sector Interleave Message-ID: <1991Mar30.194503.25246@simasd.uucp> roadhog@austex (Lindsay Haisley) writes: >I would also appreciate help from anyone who can give me precice definitions >of the terms skew and interleave. I was under the impression that these >terms were the same, referring to the physical spacing between succcessive >logical sectors needed to optimize access times, however some of my recent >reading has led me to believe that these terms are not interchangable. > It is my understanding that proper usage speaks to interleave on a disk surface, and skew speaks to the positional relationship of corresponding sectors on different surfaces. That is, interleave is intended to allow for processing time that the controller needs after reading one sector and before reading the next. Skew, somewhat similarly, is intended to account for the processing time that the controller needs when switching read heads. Keeper of the CP/M System Disk | UUCP: {nosc ucsd crash ncr-sd}!pnet07!donm Archives for the Dino(saur)SIG | ARPA: simasd!pnet07!donm@nosc.mil - San Diego Computer Society - | INET: donm@pnet07.cts.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Mar 91 18:47:36 EDT From: Alexandre Montaron Subject: Re: INFO-CPM Digest V91 #61 Hello| Someone is talking about a CP/M emulator on Unix system ??? So, the Unix system that i'll bought is based on a Z8000 perhaps is it possible to make a more efficient emulation because only op_codes changes (number not mnemonic)... The Z8000 has sixteen 16bits register and the Z80 much less... Is someone interresting by this ? Also, i can write a translater program which translat Z80 to Z8000 assembly language... Like Z80/8080 to 8086 when new 16bits intel micro-processor appear in 1981,2 ? Does some have a such program (Z80 to 8086) ? Is there a Zilog micro-processor list ??? Can i talk about Z8000 here? Where? Thanks for all... Alexandre Montaron ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Mar 91 19:00:34 EDT From: Alexandre Montaron Subject: Re: INFO-CPM Digest V91 #61 i've forget about the C900/Z8000/Unix machine... To Ian Justman... It's a PROTOTYPE| so you can't find it in France nor in US nor anywhere... Sorry... But the Unix release is a beta release 0.9 so there will be a lot of bugs i'm sure (but in Z8000 there will be no probleme...) Do you want to came in France to see it :-) Alexandre Montaron ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V91 Issue #66 ************************************ 1-Mar-91 17:22:04-MST,9436;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Fri, 1 Mar 91 17:15:07 MST From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V91 #48 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Message-ID: <910301171508.V91N48@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> INFO-CPM Digest Fri, 1 Mar 91 Volume 91 : Issue 48 Today's Topics: archive site for comp.os.cpm? and misc (2 msgs) FREE ALTOS Z80: 208K RAM, 40MB HD, TAPE DRIVE, CRT, ETC. Kermit terminal emulation for CP/M Lower Price/Wordstar 4.0 Need Kaypro 2 Boot Disks Software Toolworks info... ZCPR. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 28 Feb 91 13:03:43 GMT From: vax5.cit.cornell.edu!bqsy1@cu-arpa.cs.cornell.edu (Andrew R. Orndorff) Subject: archive site for comp.os.cpm? and misc Message-ID: <1991Feb28.090343.3065@vax5.cit.cornell.edu> Hello all, I was wondering if comp.os.cpm is being archived anywhere? I've been following the discussions on connecting 5.25 and 3.5" drives to 8" systems and did not catch much of the earlier threads where detailed information seemed to be given. Also, I have a Xerox 820-II with the 8" drives and was wondering if anyone could provide me with the following information or pointers to where I might locate this info: *floppy and hard disk subsystems: what is necessary, what can I use? *tech. documentation on the hardware, ROMs and anything else *pointers to firms that produce or market processor upgrades for the 820-II, like going to a Z280 *anyone who has info on "homebrew" type alterations to this machine Thanks for any help. P.S. Is there a Xerox users group anywhere in the Northeast or Mid-Atlantic states? -- Andrew Orndorff CIT, Research & Analysis Cornell University Internet: bqsy1@vax5.cit.cornell.edu Bitnet: bqsy1@crnlvax5 ------------------------------ Date: 1 Mar 91 21:35:37 GMT From: vax5.cit.cornell.edu!jeh@cu-arpa.cs.cornell.edu Subject: archive site for comp.os.cpm? and misc Message-ID: <1991Mar1.173538.3099@vax5.cit.cornell.edu> In article <1991Feb28.090343.3065@vax5.cit.cornell.edu>, bqsy1@vax5.cit.cornell.edu (Andrew R. Orndorff) writes: > Also, I have a Xerox 820-II with the 8" drives and was wondering if > anyone could provide me with the following information or pointers to where > I might locate this info: > > *floppy and hard disk subsystems: what is necessary, what can I > use? > *tech. documentation on the hardware, ROMs and anything else > *pointers to firms that produce or market processor upgrades > for the 820-II, like going to a Z280 > *anyone who has info on "homebrew" type alterations to this > machine > > Thanks for any help. > > P.S. Is there a Xerox users group anywhere in the Northeast or Mid-Atlantic > states? You'll find all of the above rolled into one :) at Holly Park RCP/M, 201-757-1497. Dick Roberts, the sysop, will gladly sell you his 8" hard drive kits, if you really want some extra heat in your house :) Chris McEwen also runs a BBS in the same area; I don't recall the number, but I'm sure it's liberally plastered all over Dick's system. --jh -- John Hood, Mann Library, Cornell University jhood@albert.mannlib.cornell.edu, jeh@crnlvax5.bitnet, uunet!biar!jhood ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Feb 91 15:30:02 EST From: "Craig Spirka" Subject: FREE ALTOS Z80: 208K RAM, 40MB HD, TAPE DRIVE, CRT, ETC. Message-ID: <9102282031.AA13409@alw.nih.gov> I own a hardworking Altos ACS8000 MP/M (multiuser) machine, which my wife wants me to dump because it's taking up too much (guest) room. I want to find a good home for it with a fellow CP/M buff -- if they'll come to Santa Barbara, California, and haul it away. Here are the specs: It's an Altos ACS8000 with Zilog Z80 microprocessor running MP/M II (V2.1). It has an ACS 8200 Circuit Board supporting up to 4 concurrent users, with 208K of random access memory: 16K system memory, and 4 banks of 48K user memory. It has one (1) Single/Double density 8" floppy drive and a 14" Winchester 40MB Hard Drive. Also part of the free package is an Altos Magnetic Tape Unit (MTU-2, CMTD- 3400S2) to backup the hard disk onto 13.4 MB, 1/4", 450-foot, 4 track, high density magnetic tape cartridges. The MTU records data at 6400 BPI in serial recording, Modified Frequency Modulation format, at 192 Kbits/second. PLUS, a Televideo 925 monitor and TONS of: manuals, 8" floppies, tape cartridges, software on and off the hard disk -- a text editor, spell checker, mail merger, accounting system, ADVENTURE, etc. All for the low, low price of $0. Just pick it up in Santa Barbara, California, promise to love it forever, and haul it home. -Craig Spirka ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Mar 91 14:19:11 EST From: "Robert J. Rodriguez" Subject: Kermit terminal emulation for CP/M Is there a version of Kermit or Mex for CP/M on the Apple that does not lose characters at 1200 and 2400 baud? I have an enhanced Apple 2E that I'm using with a Datalink 2400 baud modem to download some CP/M stuff from an IBM mainframe at the college. The IBM does not support nulls, and requires VT100 emulation for full-screen editing. The CPM Kermit that I have is very old (maybe 5 years or more) and only supports VT52. It drops the first 3 or 4 characters of each line at 1200 or 2400 baud. I have the Apple Prodos Kermit (3.86), and it works fine, but I'd prefer a direct CP/M Kermit or Xmodem that can read binaries directly on to CP/M disks. Also, has anyone tried the MS/DOS CP/M emulators on an Apple PC Transporter? ------------------------------ Date: 28 Feb 91 14:17:52 GMT From: att!linac!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!samsung!munnari.oz.au!metro!ipso!dave@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Dave Horsfall) Subject: Lower Price/Wordstar 4.0 Message-ID: <1991Feb28.141752.4337@ips.oz.au> In article <"13-Feb-91.10:27:35.EST".*.Michael_D._Sprague.wbst311@Xerox.com> Sprague.Wbst311@xerox.com writes: | Doug, I am interested in your copy of Wordstar 4.0. | | ~ Mike (Sprague.Wbst311@Xerox.Com) No doubt. Do the WordStar people know of your interest? -- Dave Horsfall (VK2KFU) VK2KFU @ VK2RWI.NSW.AUS.OC dave@ips.OZ.AU ...munnari!ips.OZ.AU!dave ------------------------------ Date: 27 Feb 91 00:32:46 GMT From: agate!bionet!uwm.edu!rpi!sci.ccny.cuny.edu!dsndata!unocss!mlewis@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (mlewis) Subject: Need Kaypro 2 Boot Disks Message-ID: <3193@unocss.unomaha.edu> From article <15577@hoptoad.uucp>, by curt@hoptoad.uucp (Curt Mayer): > I have been given a Kaypro portable without boot disks. > It says on the back panel, Kaypro 2, with an X on a sticker > after the 2. It has 2 half height 5.25 floppies. I hate to do this, but ME TOO! A friend got a Kaypro 2 from his church, and all it has is WordStar on a bootable disk. No FORMAT, no PIP, no NOTHING! My day phone is (402) 291-8300 x 150, and evenings (402)553-4389 Thanks for ANY responses. Marc -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Na khuya mne ehto gavno? | Internet: cs057@zeus.unomaha.edu preferred machine->| UUCP: uunet!mcmi!unocss!mlewis --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: 28 Feb 91 23:14:12 GMT From: csusac!sactoh0!ijpc!ianj@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu (Ian Justman) Subject: Software Toolworks info... Message-ID: Was just wondering, is Software Toolworks still around (or for that matter, Walt Bilofsky, its founder)? I just picked up a whole pile of their stuff from a local computer store, many of the programs I have duplicates of. One of the packages I picked up was C/80 3.0 and I would like to know more about it and I would like to know if there are any versions later than this one. I have C/80 in both 2.0 and 3.0 versions, in hard-sectored HDOS and soft-sectored CP/M. ------------------------------ Date: 28 Feb 91 14:23:20 GMT From: swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!samsung!munnari.oz.au!metro!ipso!dave@ucsd.edu (Dave Horsfall) Subject: ZCPR. Message-ID: <1991Feb28.142320.4407@ips.oz.au> In article <1991Feb14.192505.14099@wpi.WPI.EDU> ear@wpi.WPI.EDU (Eric A Rasmussen) writes: | > YOU NEED A K10 PLUS A HARD DISK (the more the better) | | Are you saying that ZCPR will ONLY work on a Kaypro with a hard disk, or is it | capable of running on non-Kaypro, non-hard disk systems? (Such as a DEC | Rainbow) Works fine on my (Aus-made) Microbee, with twin floppies. Or are we talking about a strange version of ZCPR? -- Dave Horsfall (VK2KFU) VK2KFU @ VK2RWI.NSW.AUS.OC dave@ips.OZ.AU ...munnari!ips.OZ.AU!dave ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V91 Issue #48 ************************************ 3-Mar-91 06:19:19-MST,9778;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Sun, 3 Mar 91 06:16:04 MST From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V91 #49 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Message-ID: <910303061605.V91N49@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> INFO-CPM Digest Sun, 3 Mar 91 Volume 91 : Issue 49 Today's Topics: C compilers which can be linked with Assembler (SLR for example) Compilers for NECAPC CPM86 Free altos z80: 208k ram Osborne 1 diskdrives. Help needed. Re: ZCPR. Sharp MZ5600 : CP/M -> DOS ? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 2 Mar 91 11:35:32 GMT From: munnari.oz.au!uhccux!uhheph.phys.hawaii.edu!ralph@uunet.uu.net (Ralph Becker-Szendy) Subject: C compilers which can be linked with Assembler (SLR for example) Message-ID: <11736@uhccux.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu> Dear cp/m addicts, I am looking for a C compiler. Not just ANY OLD C compiler. I want one which generates code which can be linked into Z80 Assembler. Here is the problem: The monitor part of my BIOS (the thing which sets up the machine before booting cp/m) is currently written in SLR assembler, as is the rest of the BIOS. The amazing capabilities of the SLR assembler and virtual linker make cross-linking between BIOS and monitor quite easy. However, the monitor is getting longer and longer, and soon (with all the bells and whistles which will be required for SCSI disks as soon as I get the low-level SCSI driver to work, backup to SCSI tape, managing partitions on the disk and storing the setup of the machine in NVRAM) it will become a burden to write all this in assembler. So I am looking for a C compiler with the following capabilities: - ROMable code (that doesn't mean anything exceeding the following requirements, the code actually runs in RAM), - Generate fairly tight code (it all goes into EPROM, and 32kB EPROM isn't that much if a whole C run time library wants to get into that), - Define subroutines and data structures at arbitrary addresses (so it can call assembler routines and access BIOS data structures), - Call assembler subroutines with control over nearly all registers (so it can pass and receive parameters from BIOS-internal routines), - C routines have to be callable from assembler, and there will be no MAIN program, - Code can be generated at any address, and the position of stack and heap can be moved, - The IO library can be replaced or modified (source code would be best), since no BDOS is present when the program runs all IO has to be through BIOS calls or assembler routines internal to the BIOS, - The compiler has to generate Microsoft or SLR type .REL files, because the linking has to be done by the SLR linker, - or even better, it may to generate assembler source which can be assembled by the SLR asssembler. Quite certainly my otherwise very nice MIX-C compiler will not do that. I know of a few other C compilers (there is a PD small-C compiler on SIMTEL, and one in VOL224 or the SIG collection), I hear that some compilers are still being sold (for example by Jay Sage, or Aztek-C, and MI-C is still available for lotsof money in Germany, not identical to the low-cost MIX-C), and others may be defunct (C/80 and Quick-C come to mind). Are any available (frree, new for sale, or "used" someone wants to unload) which can fill these requirements ? By the way, I am in no way restricted to C. I would actually prefer other languages like Pascal or Modula-2, but with those fancy languages the chances of finding a compiler whose output can be linked into assembler are even slimmer than with C. For the long-term future (as soon as I finish my dissertation I might have some spare time), are there any compilers which generate real Z280 code ? Or, for that matter, even assemblers (I am not counting macro libraries which define funny opcodes for the new Z280 instructions) ? That topic pops up every so often. I hear of a few expensive cross-developments systems, but that's no fun. -- Ralph Becker-Szendy UHHEPG=24742::RALPH (HEPNet,SPAN) University of Hawaii RALPH@UHHEPG.PHYS.HAWAII.EDU High Energy Physics Group RALPH@UHHEPG.BITNET Watanabe Hall #203, 2505 Correa Road, Honolulu, HI 96822 (808)956-2931 ------------------------------ Date: 3 Mar 91 05:54:22 GMT From: ogicse!milton!bperigo@uunet.uu.net (Bob Perigo) Subject: Compilers for NECAPC CPM86 Message-ID: <17545@milton.u.washington.edu> Would like to breath some new life into a pair of old necAPCs. That's those combination cpm86/msdos beasts with the 8" disks. Have you seen a PD release of a c86 or fortran86 configured for it? -- INTERNET,BITNET: bperigo@u.washington.edu / _ Bob Perigo babble on BABEL @ 206-363-8969 300-9600 baud /_)/_) UW Box SM-28 VOICE Bob at 206-367-4433 8am-8pm Seattle time / Seattle, WA UUCP Path: ...uw-beaver!u.washington.edu!bperigo 98195 ------------------------------ Date: 2 Mar 91 17:43:00 GMT From: rochester!uhura.cc.rochester.edu!ee.rochester.edu!rochgte!f242.n260.z1.FIDONET.ORG!David.Barnes@louie.udel.edu (David Barnes) Subject: Free altos z80: 208k ram Message-ID: <283.27D04BFC@rochgte.fidonet.org> Craig; Hi.. I will take your Altos system if you will box it up for me, I will pay the shipping and some $$$ for your time and effort.. Matter of fact if you call me I will give you some $$$ for the system, please call me ASAP at (716) 544-7575.. You can call collect if you like... I am located in Rochester NY... thanks very much... David Barnes -- David Barnes - via FidoNet node 1:260/230 UUCP: {smart-host}!ur-valhalla!rochgte!242!David.Barnes INTERNET: David.Barnes@f242.n260.z1.FIDONET.ORG ------------------------------ Date: 2 Mar 91 17:28:51 GMT From: pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!uupsi!sunic!chalmers.se!fy.chalmers.se!fy.chalmers.se!jonas@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu (Jonas Hvarfner) Subject: Osborne 1 diskdrives. Help needed. Message-ID: <1991Mar2.172851.669@fy.chalmers.se> I have an Osborne 1 with diskdrive problems. If I format a disk with 22DISKs cfmt in an IBM PC, the B-drive on the Osborne refuses to read it. I get "bad sector"-errors each time I try a DIR B: or a TYPE B:TEXT.FIL (the file is written by 22DISK). If I use COPY to copy the entire disk to another in the A-drive, it reads up to about track 30-35 and then says "read error". However, the Osborne does not complain whatever I do with this cfmt- formatted disk as long as I do it in the A-drive. I can read and write without any problems at all. The A-drive also reads and writes disks formatted and written on in the B-drive. The B-drive sometimes, but not always, complain about A-formatted and -written disks. I have tested this on the Osborne at several times with new disks and using different IBMs, always with the same disappointing result. It's very annoying not to be able to trust the B-drive. Therefore I would be very happy if someone could comment on the causes of this disk- drive behavior. What can I do about it? If it is misalignment, can I align the drives myself? If so, how? (I have access to an electronics lab with oscilloscopes, frequency-counters etc.) Thank you! Jonas Hvarfner jonas@fy.chalmers.se ------------------------------ Date: 1 Mar 91 21:44:28 GMT From: zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!cs.utexas.edu!hellgate.utah.edu!fcom.cc.utah.edu!cc.utah.edu!cc.usu.edu!slsw2@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu Subject: Re: ZCPR. Message-ID: <1991Mar1.154428.46965@cc.usu.edu> In article <1991Feb14.192505.14099@wpi.WPI.EDU> ear@wpi.WPI.EDU (Eric A Rasmussen) writes: | Are you saying that ZCPR will ONLY work on a Kaypro with a hard disk, or is it | capable of running on non-Kaypro, non-hard disk systems? (Such as a DEC | Rainbow) While running ZCPR on a Rainbow is quite nice, it's probably not that good an idea. The Rainbow is primarily a CP/M-86 machine with a Z80 sidecar; ZCPR only knows how to run Z80 programs, so you have to be willing to limit yourself to those if you want to run it on your Rainbow. I gave up on that because the I/O byte didn't seem to work correctly; I couldn't get, e.g., generic CP/M Kermit running on the Z80. However, it does make a fairly nice setup; the Rainbow has a huge TPA because the operating system runs on the 8086 and therefore doesn't show up in the Z80's memory space. Caveat: I was running ZCPR 1.something or other that I had severely hacked over. I don't know about running ZCPR 3 on the Rainbow. -- =============================================================================== Roger Ivie 35 S 300 W Logan, Ut. 84321 (801) 752-8633 =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: 1 Mar 91 20:54:18 GMT From: comp.vuw.ac.nz!am.dsir.govt.nz!dsiramd!marcamd!mercury!kcbbs!kc@uunet.uu.net (Richard Plinston) Subject: Sharp MZ5600 : CP/M -> DOS ? Message-ID: <1991Mar1.205418.12384@kcbbs> I have one of these with both CP/M-86 and MS-DOS 2.11. I need a postal address. ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V91 Issue #49 ************************************ 4-Mar-91 17:24:46-MST,9547;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Mon, 4 Mar 91 17:15:49 MST From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V91 #50 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Message-ID: <910304171549.V91N50@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> INFO-CPM Digest Mon, 4 Mar 91 Volume 91 : Issue 50 Today's Topics: Altos ACS 8000-2 needs a home FREE Compupro 8085/8086 NZCOM replacenet? PacPerson needs home... Re: Kermit terminal emulation for CP/M Re: Need Kaypro 2 Boot Disks Re: Osborne 1 diskdrives. Help needed. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 4 Mar 91 23:08:47 GMT From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!pasteur!dougfir.Berkeley.EDU!mlvdv@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Michael Van De Vanter) Subject: Altos ACS 8000-2 needs a home Message-ID: <11664@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU> My old reliable computer needs a new home. It is an Altos model ACS 8000-2. This is an industrial strength (big, sturdy, and heavy) CP/M machine with: - 64k memory - 2 Shugart 8" dual-density floppy drives - 2 serial ports (one connects to a terminal as console) - 1 parallel port (centronics printer) - single board (no backplane) - CP/M 2.2 Comes with original manuals, schematics, and other detailed technical documentation, as well as original packing material. It also comes with OPRA 7.4. This is a version of CP/M 2.2 enhanced specifically for this machine (but compatible with all CP/M software). Enhancements include increased disk capacity, disk i/o speed, interrupt driven type-ahead buffer, and others. I also have other tools and programming languages with documentation. Make an offer, any offer, and come take it away. Alternately, suggest a group or organization to whom it would be more benefit than trouble, and I will consider donating it. Michael L. Van De Vanter mlvdv@cs.berkeley.edu (415) 655-6900 (evenings) Michael ------------------------------ Date: 4 Mar 91 17:28:20 GMT From: sdd.hp.com!hp-pcd!hpcvia!gordon@ucsd.edu (gordon_staley) Subject: FREE Compupro 8085/8086 Message-ID: <39790001@hpcvia.CV.HP.COM> I a have FREE CP/M machine available. All I ask is that the recipient pick it up at my home in Corvallis, Oregon. HARDWARE: The system has 64K of memory and a 8085/8086 dual-processor. There are two 8" floppy drives (1.2M) and a terminal (Televideo 925). There are serial ports for the terminal and a modem. There is a parallel port that is ready to have a centronics printer hooked up to it. While the machine was still in use it shared a printer with a PC clone using an A-B switch. SOFTWARE: I have CP/M 2.2, Wordstar, Super-Calc, Dbase 2, CBASIC, CP/M-86 and a number of other packages for it. I believe that I have all of the system manuals and most of the software manuals. The system works fine. It was taken out of service because my wife could no longer get companies to print checks for the accounting software she was using. I hate to see this perfectly good system be sent to a landfill. I will take requests for the next 2 weeks. Preference will be given to charit- able organizations. Please respond by e-mail. Gordon Staley gordon@hpcvia ------------------------------ Date: 3 Mar 91 23:20:59 GMT From: portal!cup.portal.com!Azog-Thoth@apple.com (William Thomas Daugustine) Subject: NZCOM replacenet? Message-ID: <39784@cup.portal.com> A coupla years ago, or whenever, I purchased NZCOM on Epson QX-10 format. After I copyed the disks, I put the originals away, and didnt use them. Now, much time has passed, and when I tried to read them, they seemed to have gone bad. Unfortunatly, I never mail in those registration/guarentee/warrenty cards (if there even was one). Is there any way I can get a (free) replacement? Also, is the license of this software only valid for one machine? I no longer own the QX-10, now instead I own a TeleTek System Master with 8" DSDD drives... Thanx Billy D'Augustine Azog-Thoth@cup.portal.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Mar 91 19:11 EDT From: He did! He did get married bare-footed! Subject: PacPerson needs home... Hall-owww...! As some of you may have noticed, I began sending out a copy of PacPerson to those who requested. The mistery is over; it is just a cheap rip-off of Pacman and Ms. Pacman, with a CP/M touch. Keep those requests coming, and they will be right on their way. (One problem: the uuencoded file had as destination "M:PACPER.ARK." I suspect this would cause a problem with some versions of UUDECODE on a system without a M: drive. I haven't tried. If it does, simply edit the darn file and get rid of the "M:" The file is only 33K long so most editors can handle it. Sometimes, learning to use ED isn't that bad a deal...) Now the sad part. I was just told be Keith Petersen (editor of this newsgroup) that Simtel will not be accepting any more games and will be deleting the ones that they already have (like Tetris). So, I need a well-accessible file-serving place where these two (PacPerson and Tetris) can be uploaded and to which I can redirect far-future requests for those, and to which I can send more games as I write them... Some of you have already placed Tetris on the BBS's, but I would like a "home base" for these games... Any candidates? Thanks in advance, and enjoy! -John ------------------------------ Date: 3 Mar 91 23:38:55 GMT From: csusac!sactoh0!ijpc!ianj@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu (Ian Justman) Subject: Re: Kermit terminal emulation for CP/M Message-ID: rjrodrig@kgnvmc.vnet.ibm.com ("Robert J. Rodriguez") writes: > Is there a version of Kermit or Mex for CP/M on the Apple that does not lose > characters at 1200 and 2400 baud? I have an enhanced Apple 2E that I'm > using with a Datalink 2400 baud modem to download some CP/M stuff from > an IBM mainframe at the college. The IBM does not support nulls, and requires > VT100 emulation for full-screen editing. The CPM Kermit that I have is very o > (maybe 5 years or more) and only supports VT52. It drops the first 3 or 4 > characters of each line at 1200 or 2400 baud. > > I have the Apple Prodos Kermit (3.86), and it works fine, but I'd prefer a > direct CP/M Kermit or Xmodem that can read binaries directly on to CP/M disks > > Also, has anyone tried the MS/DOS CP/M emulators on an Apple PC Transporter? Sorry, but you're SOL on that one if you have a Microsoft/Applied Engineering Z80 card or any of its compatibles. I tried to no avail to write interrupt routines, but I STILL lost characters. And this is at 2400+ on an Apple II Plus with a Videx Videoterm! The Apple CP/M system is a great system, but this CANNOT be helped. Please someone proveme wrong here because I want the same thing. As far as the PCT is concerned, it would STILL be too slow because the PCT uses a 10 MHz V20 which makes the Apple a turbo XT. You could run Z80MU, but your effective speed would be around 500kHz to 1MHz, so you'd be better off using a 386SX. And anything that takes advantage of the V20's hardware emulation will let you use 8080/8085 stuff ONLY, which I think is too limited, and what's worse is that I've heard is that the hardware emulation is buggy. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Mar 91 15:31:54 -0500 From: Jay Sage Subject: Re: Need Kaypro 2 Boot Disks Message-ID: <9103041531.AA03258@LL.MIT.EDU> Marc Lewis asked for the missing files for his Kaypro 2. I tried to reply to him directly, but his address was longer than my mailer would accept (!), so I am replying here. I have some kind of Kaypro IV or 2 and certainly have access to all kinds of Kaypro computers. If you send me blank, formatted, labeled diskettes with a return mailer (self-addressed) with postage, I can copy the files onto the diskettes and send them back. Be sure to include a note reminding me of what I promised to send you, as I do so much of this that I often forget the details by the time disks arrive." -- Jay Sage 1435 Centre Street Newton Centre, MA 02159-2469 P.S. Oops, just remembered that one of the programs you are missing is the FORMAT program. In that case, just send blank disks, and remind me of that so I don't try to write to them without formatting them first. ------------------------------ Date: 3 Mar 91 05:04:06 GMT From: pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!lavaca.uh.edu!menudo.uh.edu!lobster!urchin!f601.n106.z1.fidonet.org!CHARLES.COTHAM@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu (CHARLES COTHAM) Subject: Re: Osborne 1 diskdrives. Help needed. Message-ID: <8529.27D11E92@urchin.fidonet.org> Jonas, I don't know if it would help, but I have a couple of articles on disk drive alignment for the Osborne 1. I would be glad to make a copy and send to you if you will leave me an address. Charles Cotham 2205 Lilac St. Nederland, Texas 77627 ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V91 Issue #50 ************************************ 6-Mar-91 09:19:40-MST,10161;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Wed, 6 Mar 91 09:15:33 MST From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V91 #51 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Message-ID: <910306091534.V91N51@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> INFO-CPM Digest Wed, 6 Mar 91 Volume 91 : Issue 51 Today's Topics: Code Works - Q/C CPM Emulator for an AT? Intersystems DPS-1's for sale Re: Accelerated 6502s and Apple CP/M (Applicard) Re: Compilers for NECAPC CPM86 Re: Kermit terminal emulation for CP/M Re: Lower Price/Wordstar 4.0 ZMP 1.5 Overlay for Televideo 803 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 5 Mar 91 17:52:30 GMT From: magnus.ircc.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!unix.cis.pitt.edu!pitt!darth!jones@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu (Davey Jones) Subject: Code Works - Q/C Message-ID: <587@darth.PGH.PA.US> Does anyone have information on The Code Works. They produced the Q/C compiler for Z80 based CP/M systems. Are they still in business? Is it still possible to get the Q/C compiler? Thanks ------------------------------ Date: 5 Mar 91 03:11:34 GMT From: ucivax!jarthur!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!sdd.hp.com!hp-pcd!hplsla!marshall@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Marshall Lollis) Subject: CPM Emulator for an AT? Message-ID: <6400001@hplsla.HP.COM> You may find this an incredibly foolish question, but is there a CPM emulator I can run on my AT? The reason I ask is because of a family expense program that we have had from when we were running a z-card in our Apple.........many years ago. I guess I would assume that any emulator available would be in the form of software. Please don't make too much fun of me. I had to ask! *Marshall* ******************************************************************************** Let's see, now that I am done.......... :w :q :wq :wq! ^d X exit X Q :quitbye CtrlAltDel ~~q :~q logout save/quit :!QUIT ^[zz ^[ZZ ZZZZ ^H ^@ ^L ^[c ^# ^E ^X ^I ^T ? help helpquit ^D ^d ^C ^c ^x^c helpexit ?Quit ?q ^Kx /QY Oooops.......... Discs synced; halted ******************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: 6 Mar 91 00:51:47 GMT From: ns-mx!shemtaia.weeg.uiowa.edu!jrblack@uunet.uu.net (James Roger Black) Subject: Intersystems DPS-1's for sale Message-ID: <4740@ns-mx.uiowa.edu> I have two Ithaca Intersystems DPS-1 computers for sale. These are high-quality S-100 CP/M systems with 20-slot motherboard, 25-amp power supply, traditional front panel (lots of lights and switches) and a chassis strong enough to jump up and down on. Each one has a Z-80 CPU, 64K RAM, dual SSDD 8-inch floppies with controllers, and all that good stuff. There are also two serial cards, a modem card, a 2708/2716 EPROM programmer, an S-100 extender card with logic probe, a sound-effects board, etc. Software: CP/M; Microsoft M80 Macro Assembler; WordStar; Vedit; DRI Tex word processor; ZDM debugger; D80 disassembler; Forth; DRI PL/I; Ithaca Pascal/Z; Microsoft Basic; lots of other stuff. All software is licensed, original disks and manuals, etc. All hardware includes schematics and manuals. There are some books and magazines, too. Both units were working when decommissioned. One needs a serial card, but the other has an extra, so it balances out. Between the two of them, you should have a complete computer and spare parts till doomsday. No reasonable offer refused; you pay shipping. Send email if interested. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Roger Black jrblack@shemtaia.weeg.uiowa.edu Weeg Computing Center The University of Iowa Disclaimer: I speak for nobody but myself. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: 5 Mar 91 04:22:14 GMT From: zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!wuarchive!csus.edu!uop!quack!mrapple@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu (Nick Sayer) Subject: Re: Accelerated 6502s and Apple CP/M (Applicard) Message-ID: rat@ruth.UUCP (David Douthitt) writes: >As an aside, can someone tell me if there are any other hard drives >you can use with a PCPI card besides the Sider? Ones that work with >Prodos? I wrote a pair of drivers that allowed you to use ProDOS devices under PCPI. One was for floppies and handled drives up to 2 MB, the other was for hard disks and allowed up to 8 MB, but it had to be non-removable (or you would have to make VERY sure to warm-boot if you swapped. Bye bye data otherwise). The trouble is that the vectors had to be sized in advance, so each potential drive took up a k or so of your TPA. All of the above is from memory. I could dig them up, but I'd rather not have to. They're widespread, I would hope. :-/ >What about SCSI? They are ProDOS devices, no? -- Nick Sayer | Think of me as a recombinant | RIP: Mel Blanc mrapple@quack.sac.ca.us | Simpson: Homer's looks, Lisa's | 1908-1989 N6QQQ [44.2.1.17] | brains, Bart's manners, and | May he never 209-952-5347 (Telebit) | Maggie's appetite for TV. --Me | be silenced. ------------------------------ Date: 5 Mar 91 21:03:35 GMT From: pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!caen!news.cs.indiana.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!iboga!berger@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu (Mike Berger) Subject: Re: Compilers for NECAPC CPM86 Message-ID: <1991Mar5.210335.7301@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> bperigo@milton.u.washington.edu (Bob Perigo) writes: >Would like to breath some new life into a pair of old necAPCs. That's those >combination cpm86/msdos beasts with the 8" disks. Have you seen a PD release >of a c86 or fortran86 configured for it? *---- I think C86 is a commercial compiler, so you won't find a "free" version. However DeSmet C is now shareware or free, and it's excellent. Since the APC runs MS-DOS 2.11, virtually ANY generic compiler will work. I still use the latest version of Microsoft C to generate code for the NEC APC. -- Mike Berger Department of Statistics, University of Illinois AT&TNET 217-244-6067 Internet berger@atropa.stat.uiuc.edu ------------------------------ Date: 5 Mar 91 14:56:49 GMT From: milton!ogicse!pdxgate!parsely!percy!qiclab!techbook!fzsitvay@beaver.cs.washington.edu (Frank Zsitvay) Subject: Re: Kermit terminal emulation for CP/M Message-ID: <1991Mar5.145649.1129@techbook.com> In article ianj@ijpc.UUCP (Ian Justman) writes: >> >> Also, has anyone tried the MS/DOS CP/M emulators on an Apple PC Transporter? > >As far as the PCT is concerned, it would STILL be too slow >because the PCT uses a 10 MHz V20 which makes the Apple a turbo >XT. You could run Z80MU, but your effective speed would be >around 500kHz to 1MHz, so you'd be better off using a 386SX. And >anything that takes advantage of the V20's hardware emulation >will let you use 8080/8085 stuff ONLY, which I think is too >limited, and what's worse is that I've heard is that the hardware >emulation is buggy. z80mu on a 20mhz 286 gives you about a 2.5 mhz z80, which is not badd all things considered. you would be surprised at how much cp/m stuff is written for the 8080/8085 instruction set. some z80 machines had problems with the extra z80 registers because the bios would assume the machine was going to be used like an 8080. running z80mu on a machine like a 386sx is rather pointless, especially if you end up purchasing the machine solely to run cp/m stuff. even though i have z80mu, i rarely use it because it is not enough like a cp/m environment just when you find that you need it to be. not to mention i have a lot of cp/m machine specific programs. if you want a solution to your problem, your best bet would be to spend $50 to $100 or so and buy a used cp/m machine. then you can get one with a real serial port, that won't drop chars even at 9600 baud. 'bag' solutions like a cp/m card in an apple are really not great solutions because you are still stuck with a 'funny' disk format and strange machine anomolies. (like slow serial ports, wierd video mapping, etc. etc.) -- fzsitvay@techbook.COM - but don't quote me on that.... American Oil Company motto - Bend over, We'll pump!!! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1991 07:06:23 PST From: Sprague.Wbst311@xerox.com Subject: Re: Lower Price/Wordstar 4.0 Message-ID: <" 6-Mar-91 10:06:23 EST".*.Michael_D._Sprague.wbst311@Xerox.com> > | Doug, I am interested in your copy of Wordstar 4.0. > | > | ~ Mike (Sprague.Wbst311@Xerox.Com) > No doubt. Do the WordStar people know of your interest? As long as it is a legal copy (and it sounded that way), what do they care? ~ Mike ------------------------------ Date: 5 Mar 91 21:04:01 GMT From: mcsun!ukc!axion!tharr!nowster!pm@uunet.uu.net (Paul Martin) Subject: ZMP 1.5 Overlay for Televideo 803 Message-ID: Has anyone out there got a working ZMP 1.5 overlay for use with a Televideo 803? (I have overlays for other Televideos, but the 803 hardware is different.) If you do, could you mail me that you have it, and not send it until requested? I hear rumours that Ron Murray's being given encouragement to speed up sections of ZMP's C code, and may be producing a new version some time soon. Is there any basis to this? -- Paul Martin ..!uunet!tharr!pm.nowster | CP/M systems never die. They pm.nowster@tharr.uucp (pm111@tharr.uucp) | just get more BIOSed with age. ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V91 Issue #51 ************************************ 7-Mar-91 16:20:32-MST,10868;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Thu, 7 Mar 91 16:15:05 MST From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V91 #52 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Message-ID: <910307161506.V91N52@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> INFO-CPM Digest Thu, 7 Mar 91 Volume 91 : Issue 52 Today's Topics: Re: Code Works - Q/C Re: CPM Emulator for an AT? Re: FREE ALTOS Z80: 208K RAM, 40MB HD, TAPE DRIVE, CRT, ETC. Re: Kaypro 4 and hard disks Re: ZMP 1.5 Overlay for Televideo 803 Wanted: Shugart SA860 drive info ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 6 Mar 91 09:15:54 GMT From: csusac!sactoh0!ijpc!ianj@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu (Ian Justman) Subject: Re: Code Works - Q/C Message-ID: <8kRDy1w163w@ijpc.UUCP> jones@darth.PGH.PA.US (Davey Jones) writes: > > Does anyone have information on The Code Works. They produced the Q/C > compiler for Z80 based CP/M systems. Are they still in business? Is it > still possible to get the Q/C compiler? > > Thanks Perhaps Doug Braun could elucidate on the subject because his UZI package is written using Code Works' Q/C compiler. Is it even compilable under Aztec C, the Toolworks C/80 compiler, BDS-C, or Mix C? I would very much like to know. Because if it's Q/C specific and you cannot legally get the Code Works' compiler, I will be extremely disappointed. ------------------------------ Date: 7 Mar 91 08:53:06 GMT From: pacbell.com!pacbell!pbhyf!blholli@decwrl.dec.com (Brian Holliday) Subject: Re: CPM Emulator for an AT? Message-ID: <8674@pbhyf.PacBell.COM> In article <6400001@hplsla.HP.COM> marshall@hplsla.HP.COM (Marshall Lollis) writes: >You may find this an incredibly foolish question, but is there a CPM >emulator I can run on my AT? The reason I ask is because of a family >expense program that we have had from when we were running a z-card in >our Apple.........many years ago. I guess I would assume that any >emulator available would be in the form of software. Yes, there are a few CP/M emulators in software. I've used Joan Riff's Z80MU (which emulates a Z80), and also one that came from Japan (which emulates an 8080). These were interesting, but not too useful to me. The emulator from Japan can be ordered through the C Users Journal magazine, for $8. It is floppy #284 -- "portable 8080 emulator" -- and it comes with C source code. I only got it partially working before I gave up. Expect to do some debugging if you get this. Joan Riff's Z80MU works better, and is public domain, but it is slow -- as all CP/M emulators in software will be. Z80MU should be available in many MSDOS software collections. (I heard that a later version of Z80MU is being sold as a real, supported product. If you want the freebie, look for the "original" Z80MU.) If you're serious about running CP/M under MSDOS, consider purchasing the UniDOS Z80 coprocessor board. But you may also have problems getting your PC to read your old Apple floppies. In the UniDOS documentation, it says: If your CP/M computer happens to be an Apple computer with a CP/M card, you should purchase MatchPoint-PC. MatchPoint-PC will allow your PC compatible computer to read Apple II diskettes directly. The standard disk controller in your PC is not capable of reading or writing Apple diskettes. My old CP/M computer is a Kaypro, so I can't vouch for MatchPoint-PC. I can vouch for the UniDOS Z80 coprocessor board. I bought it for $170 in August 1990, and it does everything I wanted it to do. It is also quite fast -- it runs at 8 Mhz with no wait states. MatchPoint-PC and the UniDOS board are made by: Micro Solutions, Inc. 132 West Lincoln Highway DeKalb, Illinois 60115 (815) 756-3411 And I purchased UniDOS from: Emerald Microware 12470 S.W. First St. P.O. Box 1726 Beaverton, Oregon 97075 (sorry, don't know the phone #) Brian Holliday (...!pacbell!pbhyf!blholli) ------------------------------ Date: 5 Mar 91 22:44:41 GMT From: zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!lavaca.uh.edu!menudo.uh.edu!lobster!urchin!Darrell.Pittman@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu (Darrell Pittman) Subject: Re: FREE ALTOS Z80: 208K RAM, 40MB HD, TAPE DRIVE, CRT, ETC. Message-ID: <8673.27D43D15@urchin.fidonet.org> I can't come to Santa Barbara to pick it up (I'm in Texas), but I can give it a good home if you can box it up and I'll pay the shipping. Let me know via e-mail at "pittman@mwk.uucp". Regards... Darrell Pittman ------------------------------ Date: 7 Mar 91 19:25:04 GMT From: simasd!baron!pnet07!donm@nosc.mil (Don Maslin) Subject: Re: Kaypro 4 and hard disks Message-ID: <1991Mar7.192504.21556@simasd.uucp> wlhadley@MWUNIX.MITRE.ORG (William L. Hadley) writes: > >Hello all! I have some questions about the Kaypro 4 and hard disks. > >1) Is it possible to connect a hard disk to a Kaypro 4? Yes, but... >If yes... >2) Does it require a special type of hard disk, or will a standard IBM >drive work? An ST-506 type interface is required. >3) Does it require a special disk controller cable? Yes, and an interface card and controller, also. What you will need in the hardware and software line can be obtained from: Emerald Microware P.O. Box 1726 Beaverton OR 97075 503/641-8088 (talk to Brian) They sell a kit that includes the interface card, controller, and software (you provide the drive) for $245 approximately. The drive can be up to 40 mb. To make the drive cold bootable, you will need to purchase and install a new ROM. Emerald sells the KayPLUS ROM for $69.95, or you can get the well known Advent TurboROM for about $35 from Chuck Stafford, 916/483-0312. The ROMs offer some other advantages also. You WILL want to install a fan in the box! >4) Do I need special software to format it? If yes, then where can I get the >software (I haven't looked too closely at the CPM archives on Simtel yet)? Yes. Obtainable from the same source that you got some of the other things that you are going to need to buy. See above. >5) Is there a limitation to the size of the hard disk? That depends upon just how much money you want to spend. >6) Can the harddisk be bootable? See above. >7) Will I have to give up one of the floppy drives? > Not necessarily, if you install a half high drive. Definitely, with a full height. Keeper of the CP/M System Disk | UUCP: {nosc ucsd crash ncr-sd}!pnet07!donm Archives for the Dino(saur)SIG | ARPA: simasd!pnet07!donm@nosc.mil - San Diego Computer Society - | INET: donm@pnet07.cts.com ------------------------------ Date: 7 Mar 91 01:42:08 GMT From: agate!bionet!uwm.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!samsung!munnari.oz.au!uniwa!vax7!nmurrayr@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Ron Murray) Subject: Re: ZMP 1.5 Overlay for Televideo 803 Message-ID: <7328.27d60af0@cc.curtin.edu.au> In article , pm@nowster.UUCP (Paul Martin) writes: > > I hear rumours that Ron Murray's being given encouragement to > speed up sections of ZMP's C code, and may be producing a new > version some time soon. Is there any basis to this? > Don't know about speeding it up: I have considered recoding the terminal loop in assembler, but nothing definite yet. I am considering a VT-10* emulation (and the fast loop would probably be necessary for this. Perhaps Kermit as well, although I suspect most sites will have SZ/RZ by now. I'll probably get around to all this in a month or so, as soon as the weather gets cooler (so I can get into the computer room again), and once I fix my CP/M computer (which has a !@#$%^^&*&*&^ intermittent fault). ....Ron -- =============================================================================== Internet: Murray_RJ@cc.curtin.edu.au | "You can lead a horse to ACSnet: Murray_RJ@cc.cut.oz.au | water, but if you can Bitnet: Murray_RJ%cc.curtin.edu.au@cunyvm.bitnet | get him to float on his UUCP : uunet!munnari.oz!cc.curtin.edu.au!Murray_RJ | back you've really got Amateur Packet Radio: VK6ZJM@VK6BBS.#WA.AUS.OC | something" TCP/IP: 44.136.204.14, 44.136.204.19 | -- Murphy's Law I =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: 6 Mar 91 17:50:27 GMT From: agate!bionet!uwm.edu!spool.mu.edu!mips!twg.com!frank@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Frank McConnell) Subject: Wanted: Shugart SA860 drive info Message-ID: <8713@gollum.twg.com> I picked up a few SA860 drives as spares a while back; these are half-height 8" drives, and as such don't have the nice hefty 110 VAC motors found in canonical full-height drives. Instead, these drives look much like what PC 5.25" half-heights aspire to be when they grow up, with a bigger version of the "flat" spindle motor and a quarter-turn handle to "close" the drive. I now would like to use these to replace a pair of SA850 full-height drives. The problem is, these drives have a single power connector that is different from either of the two on the 850s, and of course I have no service or installation manual for the 860s :-(. Does anyone out there have info on what the power connector expects? Or, perhaps, pointers on where I could get the documentation for the drives? (Or even tales of terror about the troubles I'm asking for!) Feel free to mail me; I'll summarize mailed responses. Thanks in advance! -Frank McConnell "I want my MPE" E-mail: Tel: +1 415 969 3770 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Mar 91 14:58:50 -0500 From: wlhadley@mwunix.mitre.org (William L. Hadley) Message-ID: <9103061958.AA27820@mwunix.mitre.org> Hello all! I have some questions about the Kaypro 4 and hard disks. 1) Is it possible to connect a hard disk to a Kaypro 4? If yes... 2) Does it require a special type of hard disk, or will a standard IBM drive work? 3) Does it require a special disk controller cable? 4) Do I need special software to format it? If yes, then where can I get the software (I haven't looked too closely at the CPM archives on Simtel yet)? 5) Is there a limitation to the size of the hard disk? 6) Can the harddisk be bootable? 7) Will I have to give up one of the floppy drives? Thanks in advance! Bill Hadley wlhadley@mwunix.mitre.org ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V91 Issue #52 ************************************ 9-Mar-91 23:28:08-MST,2826;000000000000 Mail-From: W8SDZ created at 9-Mar-91 23:22:09 Return-Path: Date: Sat, 9 Mar 91 23:22:08 MST From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V91 #53 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Message-ID: <910309232209.V91N53@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> INFO-CPM Digest Sat, 9 Mar 91 Volume 91 : Issue 53 Today's Topics: RE: CODE WORKS Q/C ROM Chip Carrier Turbo Pascal ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 07 Mar 91 20:48:13 EST From: "Craig Spirka" Subject: RE: CODE WORKS Q/C Message-ID: <9103080148.AA13978@alw.nih.gov> I know the owner-founder-president of the Code Works -- if this is the same Code Works you have in mind. His name is Ron Jeffries, and he is a former colleague of mine. Now, you may reach him through Com Design in Santa Barbara: (805) 685-1411. ------------------------------ Date: 9 Mar 91 06:14:29 GMT From: van-bc!cynic!pevans@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Phillip Evans) Subject: ROM Chip Carrier Message-ID: Hello CPM world. I want some ROM chip carriers. These gizmos (a pair of 'em) came in the PX-* I got at an auction. A 28-pin ROM or EPROM chip fits in it, and the bottoms of the pins get bent under and the chip is fixed. The carrier has a kind of tiny handle on each end and what you do is grab it by those and put it in an extra-big socket. The whole arrangement lets you change program ROM chips without fuss or static damage. DOES ANYONE KNOW WHERE I CAN GET MORE CARRIERS? If so thanks muchly... Signature: __________________X________________ <-- my mark ------------------------------ Date: 8 Mar 91 21:31:30 GMT From: aurs01!luce@uunet.uu.net (J. Luce) Subject: Turbo Pascal Message-ID: <59643@aurs01.UUCP> Where can anyone get a copy of Turbo Pascal for CP/M? My S-100 system uses 8" disks on top of that :) I suppose I could read it off a Kaypro 5.25 using 22DISK and upload it to my machine, but a real diskette would be nicer. ------------------------------------------------------------------- John Luce | Life is the leading cause of death Alcatel Network Systems | ----------------------------------------- Raleigh, NC | Standard Disclaimer Applies 919-850-6787 | Mail? Here? Try aurs01!aurw46!luce@mcnc.org | or ...!mcnc!aurgate!luce -------------------------------- or John.Luce@f130.n151.z1.fidonet.org ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V91 Issue #53 ************************************ 11-Mar-91 01:36:03-MST,6475;000000000000 Mail-From: W8SDZ created at 11-Mar-91 01:25:33 Return-Path: Date: Mon, 11 Mar 91 01:25:32 MST From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V91 #54 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Message-ID: <910311012533.V91N54@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> INFO-CPM Digest Mon, 11 Mar 91 Volume 91 : Issue 54 Today's Topics: About CP/M-80 emulator on PC AT Shugart 801 (2 msgs) Small Comm Program(s) VT100 emulation ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 10 Mar 91 12:09:20 EDT From: Alexandre Montaron Subject: About CP/M-80 emulator on PC AT Hello| I've juste bought MEDIA-MASTER v5.01 which now include a CP/M-Z80 software emulator... for PC XT or AT... It emulator either Z80, 8080 (software), and for which who have a NEC V20 instead of a intel processor: 8080 (hardware)... because this chip has a 8080 compatibility mode. (Does someone know how to enter in this mode?) I've not fully tested yet but it speed... For example i've done in Z80 a loop which take exactly 10 seconds on a Z80 at 4Mhz with no INT nor NMI... On a PC XT (8088 at 4,77Mhz) with Z80MU It was taken: 147secondes, now with ZPEM (MM v5.01) it takes only: 58secondes (for information on a commodore 128 in CP/M mode it takes 60secondes|||) I've also done the test on a 386sx-20 with ZPEM: only 7 secondes (so it's faster than a Z80 a 4Mhz|||) This emulator permit to acces I/O port... To acces RS232C for example (|) And they have add a new Bdos fonction which permit to call any PC's bios fnct But it simply emulator a CPM22 (or perhaps a ZCPR because of the LIST cmd?) But it exist... Try it | Bye| Alex. ------------------------------ Date: 10 Mar 91 18:05:53 GMT From: zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!unix.cis.pitt.edu!fmgst@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu (Filip Gieszczykiewicz) Subject: Shugart 801 Message-ID: <101787@unix.cis.pitt.edu> Greetings. I got a Sol-20 Terminal Computer a few months ago but only started playing with it this weekend. It's a 8080 based machine with a S100 buss. It came with 3 boards: 32K SRAM, 16KSRAM, and a DiskJockey 2D/B disk controller. It also came with a box of 8" disks. Anyways, I hooked it all up and after a few hours of the good'old guessing at DIP switches I got the darn thing to boot CP/M 2.2! [wheeee ;-)] That's all fine but there is a catch. This system came with 2 8" drives. Drive A (bootable) works fine but the analog controller on drive B does not. That means that I can format a disk (I have) and I can SYSGEN it (have too) but I can NOT copy anything without drive B :-( SO! Anyone have a 801 (SSDD 8") drive lying around? I saw many at the "swapfest" but, at the time, I did not have this computer. My offer: $5 + shipping if you have just the board (under the drive) $25 + shipping for the whole drive (drive+board+case+ps) Next swapfest is in April so if noone gives any decent offers, I can wait :-( Please send e-mail with offer. Take care. -- _______________________________________________________________________________ "The Force will be with you, always." It _is_ with me and has been for 11 years Filip Gieszczykiewicz "... a Jedi does it with a mind trick... " ;-) FMGST@PITTVMS or fmgst@unix.cis.pitt.edu "My ideas. ALL MINE!!" ------------------------------ Date: 11 Mar 91 02:04:26 GMT From: agate!bionet!uwm.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!unix.cis.pitt.edu!fmgst@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Filip Gieszczykiewicz) Subject: Shugart 801 Message-ID: <101860@unix.cis.pitt.edu> Greetings. I got a Sol-20 Terminal Computer a few months ago but only started playing with it this weekend. It's a 8080 based machine with a S100 buss. It came with 3 boards: 32K SRAM, 16KSRAM, and a DiskJockey 2D/B disk controller. It also came with a box of 8" disks. Anyways, I hooked it all up and after a few hours of the good'old guessing at DIP switches I got the darn thing to boot CP/M 2.2! [wheeee ;-)] That's all fine but there is a catch. This system came with 2 8" drives. Drive A (bootable) works fine but the analog controller on drive B does not. That means that I can format a disk (I have) and I can SYSGEN it (have too) but I can NOT copy anything without drive B :-( SO! Anyone have a 801 (SSDD 8") drive lying around? I saw many at the "swapfest" but, at the time, I did not have this computer. My offer: $5 + shipping if you have just the board (under the drive) $25 + shipping for the whole drive (drive+board+case+ps) Next swapfest is in April so if noone gives any decent offers, I can wait :-( Please send e-mail with offer. Take care. -- _______________________________________________________________________________ "The Force will be with you, always." It _is_ with me and has been for 11 years Filip Gieszczykiewicz "... a Jedi does it with a mind trick... " ;-) FMGST@PITTVMS or fmgst@unix.cis.pitt.edu "My ideas. ALL MINE!!" ------------------------------ Date: 10 Mar 91 20:04:33 GMT From: van-bc!cynic!pevans@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Phillip Evans) Subject: Small Comm Program(s) Message-ID: Hello everyone _ I want to know the smalles comm programs for CP/M. All I need are terminal capabilities, ASCII capture, and Xmodem. The best one will be shoehorned into 63K of EPROM which is why size is a premium. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Mar 91 20:59:24 IST From: "Jacques J. Goldberg" Subject: VT100 emulation Since this issue comes out periodically: 1-QTERM by David Goodeneough works great, in QTERM42G.LBR 2-What it does not have is a built-in keyboard simulation, but everything has been provided to implement it very easily. 3-I have made a patch for keyboard emulation with a plain (no PF keys) keyboard. 4-Who knows David's new e-mail address so I can send him that patch, in case there is any general interest in it? ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V91 Issue #54 ************************************ 11-Mar-91 20:19:55-MST,10307;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Mon, 11 Mar 91 20:15:19 MST From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V91 #55 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Message-ID: <910311201521.V91N55@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> INFO-CPM Digest Mon, 11 Mar 91 Volume 91 : Issue 55 Today's Topics: Apple 3.5" floppy driver for Applicard? DTC900 hard drive controller help Match-Point Disk Controller Obvious Solution the Motor On Re: VT100 emulation Shugart 801 Wordstar 4.0 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 11 Mar 91 08:40:57 -0500 From: binder@decvax.dec.com (Simplicitas gratia simplicitatis) Subject: Apple 3.5" floppy driver for Applicard? Message-ID: <9103111340.AA18570@caliph.zk3.dec.com> Been away from CP/M for about a year after I sold my Apple //e. I just put my Applicard into an Apple IIGS, and now that I have 3.5" floppies I'd like to use them. I don't have any uncompression or unsqueezing utilities, and I've now got only a single 5.25" drive. Can anyone provide a copy of a 3.5" Applicard driver on a 5.25" floppy? Thanks. Dick Binder (Simplicitas gratia simplicitatis) ======================================================================= Digital Equipment Corporation DEC Easynet: DECVAX::BINDER 110 Spit Brook Road, ZKO3-3/Y32 uucp: ...!decvax.dec.com!binder Nashua, NH 03062 Internet: binder@decvax.dec.com ======================================================================= ------------------------------ Date: 11 Mar 91 21:30:00 EDT From: "OAK::SNIPEHUNT" Subject: DTC900 hard drive controller help Greetings! I have a monstrous old hard disk system (8", 40mb fixed and 10mb removable) hooked to my LB+ via a DTC900 nearly-SCSI controller. The fool thing didn't survive the last move, and now I'm trying to get it working again. It's a nightmare of first-generation TTL gates. If anyone out in netland has full schematics for this monster, or better yet, a spare that they'd be willing to part with cheap (summer tuition is coming up :-) ), I'd love to hear from you. DTC doesn't even want to admit they ever made the thing in the first place, and the documentation I have doesn't cover circuits or operation at all. Can someone bail me out? (Just between thee and me, I'd *much* rather ditch it and get a nice, quiet 3-1/2er in the 40mb range, but the wife'd pitch a fit if I did :-) ) Bruce H. McIntosh snipehunt@oak.circa.ufl.edu Go Gators! dhbhm@nervm.nerdc.ufl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Mar 91 12:11:53 -0500 From: Jay Sage Subject: Match-Point Disk Controller Message-ID: <9103111211.AA14829@LL.MIT.EDU> I have been using the Match-Point disk controller and software from MicroSolutions for several years, and it has worked flawlessly. I regularly read, write, and format Apple CP/M true soft-sector and NorthStar hard-sector diskettes. For some reason, this package does not support the Heath hard- sectored format. I don't know why. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1991 09:39:24 PST From: Sprague.Wbst311@xerox.com Subject: Obvious Solution the Motor On Message-ID: <"11-Mar-91 12:39:24 EST".*.Michael_D._Sprague.wbst311@Xerox.com> Forget the AND gate to generate Motor On, forget connecting Motor On to Ground, just forget all that sort of stuff. The solution was so obvious that I am surprised that I and others didn't think of it first. I would have written this sooner, but due to the massive ice storm we had a week ago, I only made it into work two days last week, and those were very busy days. Back Track: This has to do with replacing 8 inch drives with 5.25 or 3.5 inch high density drives. The problem was that an 8" interface does not supply the Motor On signal, and that many of the new high density drives do not provide a jumper to tie the Drive select signal to Motor On. I had suggested using an AND gate to provide the signal. Zoltan Fekete had suggested that the signal just be grounded. Grounding the signal is not good, since as long as a floppy has been inserted, the heads will be loaded and the drive will spin. As I prepared to make a new interface board (this one with room to add an AND gate chip), I realized that even with this addition, both drives will spin if each has a floppy, and either one is selected. Then the solution this me. Use an IBM type twisted cable!!! This way, the Drive Select signal could be tied directly to that drives Motor On, and nothing else was needed (and you can buy them for about the same cost as it would take to make one). Since I had a spare twisted cable lying around, I modified my old interface board, and it worked fine. There is still a problem with drive ready, but I'll get to that later. In the IBM twisted cable, all wires go directly to the first drive connector (drive B) and then wires 10 through 15 are twisted and installed backwards for the second drive connector (drive A). The ground wires all come out correct, so this results in swapping positions for DS1/Motor ON and DS2/DS3. On your interface board, connect the controllers Drive Select 1 signal to the Floppy Interfaces Drive Select 1 (Motor On for Drive A) and Drive Select 3 (Drive Select 2 for Drive A). The controllers Drive Select 2 still connects to the floppy Interfaces Drive Select 2, and also to Motor On. Both A and B drives should now be configured as Drive B, because of the twist. Drive A goes on the end of the cable, after the twist. The termination resistor should now be in drive A, rather than Drive B, because A is at the end of the cable. Have an controller that supports 4 drives? No problem. Add a second 34 pin header to your interface board, and connect as above, substituting the controllers Drive Select 3 and Drive Select 4 signals for Selects 1 and 2. Again, Drives C and D must be configured as Drive B, and a termination resistor should be in drive C (which goes at the end of the cable). Hmmm, for those who might have been lost by my "Interface board", you need a way to connect the signals coming from the 8" drive controller to the 5.25 (or 3.5) inch drives. I took the controllers signals directly using a 34 wire ribbon cable. That connects to a 34 pin wire wrap header on my Interface board. There is a second 34 pin wire wrap header on the interface board, and that is for connecting to the floppies themselves. Using a wire wrap tool, I then connected all the interface signals to their proper pins on both headers. Last, I mentioned a Drive Ready problem. On my Chinon 1.2Mb drives, there was a jumper to select between the Disk Change Function and Drive Ready on pin 34 of the floppy. I set it for Drive Ready .... and it almost worked. The signal *IS* compatible with the 8" drive ready signal. The problem is that my computer times out before the drive is ready and gives me an error. Since the drive is still spinning (the drive spins of about 10 Seconds after it is de-selected, in case you want to use it again), if I try the command again, everything works fine. Still it's a pain to boot twice, or type DIR, wait then tell it to retry. The obvious solution would be to tie the controllers drive ready signal to ground. As Zoltan Fekete pointed out, this will probably work fine for reading the drive, but could cause problems when trying to write to it. I have had no problems writing to the drive .... yet. But I have not used the system enough to know if I can get away with this or not. The other solution of course, would be to modify the BIOS (I think) of the computer so that it takes longer for the error time out when spinning the drive up. Sigh! I assume that most of you who have done this conversion have just tied Drive Ready to ground? If so, how well has it worked? ~ Mike (Sprague.Wbst311@Xerox.Com) ------------------------------ Date: 11 Mar 91 18:05:04 GMT From: simasd!baron!pnet07!donm@nosc.mil (Don Maslin) Subject: Re: VT100 emulation Message-ID: <1991Mar11.180504.29530@simasd.uucp> PHR00JG%TECHNION@TAUNIVM.TAU.AC.IL ("Jacques J. Goldberg") writes: >4-Who knows David's new e-mail address so I can send him that patch, in > case there is any general interest in it? The last address that I have for David is !wet!pallio!dg and is a couple of months old. You might try it, Jacques. - don Keeper of the CP/M System Disk | UUCP: {nosc ucsd crash ncr-sd}!pnet07!donm Archives for the Dino(saur)SIG | ARPA: simasd!pnet07!donm@nosc.mil - San Diego Computer Society - | INET: donm@pnet07.cts.com ------------------------------ Date: 11 Mar 91 12:31:00 GMT From: usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!magnus.ircc.ohio-state.edu!csn!ub!uhura.cc.rochester.edu!ee.rochester.edu!rochgte!f242.n260.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Fred.Scacchitti@ucsd.edu (Fred Scacchitti) Subject: Shugart 801 Message-ID: <298.27DBD50A@rochgte.fidonet.org> I've got an 801 available at the price you asked (25 + shipping)- message me or call (716) 482 -7159 if you're still interested. After 6:00 PM. Fred -- Fred Scacchitti - via FidoNet node 1:260/230 UUCP: {smart-host}!ur-valhalla!rochgte!242!Fred.Scacchitti INTERNET: Fred.Scacchitti@f242.n260.z1.FIDONET.ORG ------------------------------ Date: 11 Mar 91 01:33:31 GMT From: magnus.ircc.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!lavaca.uh.edu!menudo.uh.edu!lobster!urchin!Doug.Platt@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu (Doug Platt) Subject: Wordstar 4.0 Message-ID: <9119.27DB1862@urchin.fidonet.org> Hello Roger Have heard nothing back from you Re Wordstar 4.0 Have you disappeared? Doug ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V91 Issue #55 ************************************ 14-Mar-91 23:22:27-MST,8876;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Thu, 14 Mar 91 23:15:06 MST From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V91 #56 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Message-ID: <910314231507.V91N56@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> INFO-CPM Digest Thu, 14 Mar 91 Volume 91 : Issue 56 Today's Topics: Kaypro 10 backup RDCBM.COM author Re: Kaypro 10 backup Re: RDCBM.COM author Re: Small Comm Program(s) S100 cage wanted (2 msgs) wordstar! wanted, Attention Doug Platt! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 13 Mar 91 19:51:54 GMT From: ogicse!adaptive!asi.com!casey@decwrl.dec.com (Casey Bahr) Subject: Kaypro 10 backup Message-ID: <901@adaptive.UUCP> Greetings CP/M'rs. I hope this is the appropriate place to ask these questions. It was the only CP/M newsgroup I could find. We must be a dying breed :) I just became the proud owner of a Kaypro 10, and I'm wondering if anyone has any ideas about methods or devices I could use to regularly backup the 10M hard drive? It seems prudent especially in light of the firm warnings to use "safety" before turning off the power. I'm sure I'll forget that more than once or have a power outage while running sometime and I'd like to be able to restore things. I hope I don't have to transfer everything through the floppy drive. Also, while I'm here, does anyone know of a source for a PD C compiler for this beastie? Thanks, Casey Bahr casey@asi.com | ogicse!adaptive!casey | uunet!adaptive!casey Adaptive Solutions, Inc., 1400 NW Compton Dr. Suite 340, Beaverton, OR 97006 VOICE: (503) 690.1236 /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ FAX: (503) 690.1249 ------------------------------ Date: 12 Mar 91 06:37:09 GMT From: agate!bionet!uwm.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!jarthur!nntp-server.caltech.edu!rknop@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Robert Andrew Knop) Subject: RDCBM.COM author Message-ID: <1991Mar12.063709.10392@nntp-server.caltech.edu> Does anybody know a current E-mail address for the author of the CP/M program RDCBM.COM, which reads Commodore disks from the C128's CP/M mode? I would be interested in getting ahold of the source code for that program. I tried the address given by the program, ihp4!killer!sentinel, but that didn't seem to work. Thanks, -Rob Knop ------------------------------ Date: 14 Mar 91 15:48:09 GMT From: jeh@cs.duke.edu (Justin Harlow) Subject: Re: Kaypro 10 backup Message-ID: <668965688@globe02.cs.duke.edu> In article <901@adaptive.UUCP> casey@asi.com (Casey Bahr) writes: > >Also, while I'm here, does anyone know of a source for a PD C compiler for this >beastie? > There used to be a tom of PD stuff out there, but the sources have pretty well dried up. I do have a copy of "Small C" for my Kaypro-10, It's a real though; slow, limited syntax, no include function (recompile stdio.h every time, for instance....), and worse. I'll send you a copy if I haven't thoroughly discouraged you yet. J. E. Harlow Reply to harlow@src.org, please -- Department of Computer Science, Duke University, Durham, NC 27706 Internet: jeh@cs.duke.edu UUCP: mcnc!duke!jeh ------------------------------ Date: 14 Mar 91 00:37:45 GMT From: elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!samsung!spool.mu.edu!munnari.oz.au!uniwa!vax7!nmurrayr@decwrl.dec.com (Ron Murray) Subject: Re: RDCBM.COM author Message-ID: <7422.27df3659@cc.curtin.edu.au> In article <1991Mar12.063709.10392@nntp-server.caltech.edu>, rknop@nntp-server.caltech.edu (Robert Andrew Knop) writes: > Does anybody know a current E-mail address for the author of the CP/M program > RDCBM.COM, which reads Commodore disks from the C128's CP/M mode? I would be > interested in getting ahold of the source code for that program. I tried the > address given by the program, ihp4!killer!sentinel, but that didn't seem to > work. > > Thanks, > > -Rob Knop Think I wrote one in Turbo Pascal about 3 years ago, but I can't remember the details (I'm only the one who wrote it ...). I will look. ....Ron -- =============================================================================== Internet: Murray_RJ@cc.curtin.edu.au | "You can lead a horse to ACSnet: Murray_RJ@cc.cut.oz.au | water, but if you can Bitnet: Murray_RJ%cc.curtin.edu.au@cunyvm.bitnet | get him to float on his UUCP : uunet!munnari.oz!cc.curtin.edu.au!Murray_RJ | back you've really got Amateur Packet Radio: VK6ZJM@VK6BBS.#WA.AUS.OC | something" TCP/IP: 44.136.204.14, 44.136.204.19 | -- Murphy's Law I =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: 12 Mar 91 17:27:59 GMT From: math.fu-berlin.de!uniol!unido!horga!veeble!proppi@uunet.uu.net (Paul Lenz) Subject: Re: Small Comm Program(s) Message-ID: <1991Mar12.172759.6948@veeble.han.de> In article pevans@cynic.wimsey.bc.ca (Phillip Evans) writes: >Hello everyone _ I want to know the smalles comm programs for CP/M. All >I need are terminal capabilities, ASCII capture, and Xmodem. The best >one will be shoehorned into 63K of EPROM which is why size is a premium. My terminal program is SMODEM.COM with Xmodem (CRC). I have the source code, and you can delete everything you don't need. Proppi proppi@veeble.han.de ...!unido!horga!veeble!proppi Paul Lenz Friesenstrasse 22 D-3000 Hannover 1 =--> Remember: Rock'n'Roll and CP/M never die! <--= ------------------------------ Date: 12 Mar 91 11:47:03 GMT From: agate!bionet!uwm.edu!wuarchive!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!unix.cis.pitt.edu!fmgst@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Filip Gieszczykiewicz) Subject: S100 cage wanted Message-ID: <102329@unix.cis.pitt.edu> Greetings. I'm looking for a nice and sturdy S100 card cage. WHAT I WANT: 1) 8 to 21 slots 2) not too heavy (ie. UPS shippable :-) 3) card guides (plastic - preferably anti-static) 4) I would prefer a wire-wrapped backplane 5) good quality 6) cost below $50.00 obo WHAT I DON'T WANT BUT CAN LIVE WITH: 1) power supply (I have a nice 1,200W, already) 2) sheet-metal cage (weight considerations) I think that's about it. I plan to use this for a non-S100 project (custom wire-wrap). I'll pay shipping (providing it's rational :-) E-mail if you have something that fits the above description. Take care. -- _______________________________________________________________________________ "The Force will be with you, always." It _is_ with me and has been for 11 years Filip Gieszczykiewicz "... a Jedi does it with a mind trick... " ;-) FMGST@PITTVMS or fmgst@unix.cis.pitt.edu "My ideas. ALL MINE!!" ------------------------------ Date: 12 Mar 91 11:47:03 GMT From: usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!unix.cis.pitt.edu!fmgst@ucsd.edu (Filip Gieszczykiewicz) Subject: S100 cage wanted Message-ID: <102329@unix.cis.pitt.edu> Greetings. I'm looking for a nice and sturdy S100 card cage. WHAT I WANT: 1) 8 to 21 slots 2) not too heavy (ie. UPS shippable :-) 3) card guides (plastic - preferably anti-static) 4) I would prefer a wire-wrapped backplane 5) good quality 6) cost below $50.00 obo WHAT I DON'T WANT BUT CAN LIVE WITH: 1) power supply (I have a nice 1,200W, already) 2) sheet-metal cage (weight considerations) I think that's about it. I plan to use this for a non-S100 project (custom wire-wrap). I'll pay shipping (providing it's rational :-) E-mail if you have something that fits the above description. Take care. -- _______________________________________________________________________________ "The Force will be with you, always." It _is_ with me and has been for 11 years Filip Gieszczykiewicz "... a Jedi does it with a mind trick... " ;-) FMGST@PITTVMS or fmgst@unix.cis.pitt.edu "My ideas. ALL MINE!!" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Mar 91 07:56 EDT From: Brainwave Surfer Subject: wordstar! wanted, Attention Doug Platt! Dear Doug, I'd like to buy your copy of WordStar. Please get to me. Jim Agnew /^^^\ \ / Jim Agnew AGNEW@VCURUBY.BITNET, / > || Neurosurgery, AGNEW@RUBY.VCU.EDU /\_/ ' \ / MCV-VCU This tape will self destruct in /________________> Richmond, Va five seconds. Good luck, Jim..." ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V91 Issue #56 ************************************ 17-Mar-91 17:21:58-MST,8123;000000000000 Mail-From: W8SDZ created at 17-Mar-91 17:15:32 Return-Path: Date: Sun, 17 Mar 91 17:15:32 MST From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V91 #57 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Message-ID: <910317171532.V91N57@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> INFO-CPM Digest Sun, 17 Mar 91 Volume 91 : Issue 57 Today's Topics: need disk expansion module for Xerox 820-II Need power supply for Osborne Exec... Re: CPM Emulator for an AT? Re: Kaypro 10 backup Re: VT100 emulation Re: VT100KAY.LBR problems ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 16 Mar 91 19:13:27 GMT From: vax5.cit.cornell.edu!bqsy1@cu-arpa.cs.cornell.edu (Andrew R. Orndorff) Subject: need disk expansion module for Xerox 820-II Message-ID: <1991Mar16.151327.3426@vax5.cit.cornell.edu> I recently posted a similar message to misc.forsale.computers, but I'll ask here too. Does anyone have a disk expansion module (DEM) for the Xerox 820-II that they'd be willing to part with for a reasonable price? I'm looking to expand my system a little bit, and need the flexibility of the hard drive and 5.25" floppy that the DEM would allow me to use. Oh, I don't need the actual drives themselves really, just w/o the drives, but I'll consider anything...so don't me off if you have a DEM but don't want to part it out. Thanks. -- Andrew Orndorff CIT, Research & Analysis Cornell University Internet: bqsy1@vax5.cit.cornell.edu Bitnet: bqsy1@crnlvax5 ------------------------------ Date: 14 Mar 91 21:41:32 GMT From: seas.gwu.edu!jeff@uunet.uu.net (Jeff Schilling) Subject: Need power supply for Osborne Exec... Message-ID: <2862@sparko.gwu.edu> Howdy, I looking for a replacement power supply for an Osborne Executive. It was made by Astec, Model #9355 65W with 5v@5a, +12v@1.5a, +12v@2.1a and -12v@.25a. While a direct replacement would be nice, any comparable ps with equal or greater ratings would do, providing it fits in the case. (The current one measures about 8x4x2 in.) Any pointers would be appreciated. Thanx in advance. -Jeff +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Jeff Schilling School of Engineering Computing Facility | | Internet: jeff@seas.gwu.edu George Washington University | | UUCP: ...!uunet!gwusun!jeff Washington, DC 20009 | | (202) 994-6853 | | System Programmer | +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ Date: 13 Mar 91 18:42:08 GMT From: celit!fpssun!mbn@ucsd.edu (Mike Northam ext 2651) Subject: Re: CPM Emulator for an AT? Message-ID: <12779@sns4.fps.com> In article <8674@pbhyf.PacBell.COM> blholli@PacBell.COM (Brian Holliday) writes: | | MatchPoint-PC and the UniDOS board are made by: | | Micro Solutions, Inc. | 132 West Lincoln Highway | DeKalb, Illinois 60115 | (815) 756-3411 | | And I purchased UniDOS from: | | Emerald Microware | 12470 S.W. First St. | P.O. Box 1726 | Beaverton, Oregon 97075 | (sorry, don't know the phone #) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ (503) 641-8088 hope this helps -- Mike Northam mbn@fpssun.fps.com Home:123 11' 40"W 45 37' 14"N (503) 641-3151 x2651 {tektronix}!fpssun!mbn *FPS Computing has a company spokesperson, and it's certainly not me* "Every now and then things become clear." Jane Siberry, "The Walking" ------------------------------ Date: 14 Mar 91 16:05:11 GMT From: simasd!baron!pnet07!donm@nosc.mil (Don Maslin) Subject: Re: Kaypro 10 backup Message-ID: <1991Mar14.160511.13724@simasd.uucp> casey@asi.com (Casey Bahr) writes: >I just became the proud owner of a Kaypro 10, and I'm wondering if anyone has >any ideas about methods or devices I could use to regularly backup the 10M >hard drive? It seems prudent especially in light of the firm warnings to use >"safety" before turning off the power. I'm sure I'll forget that more than >once or have a power outage while running sometime and I'd like to be able >to restore things. I hope I don't have to transfer everything through the >floppy drive. > I wouldn't worry too much about using 'safety' unless you are in a big hurry to shut down. The K10 is set up such that when the '10 meg' LED is out, the heads have been parked. 'Safety' simply does this before the time-out. As regards backup, the floppy is the logical answer. Sorry! >Also, while I'm here, does anyone know of a source for a PD C compiler for this >beastie? > Perhaps someone else can help you on that. Keeper of the CP/M System Disk | UUCP: {nosc ucsd crash ncr-sd}!pnet07!donm Archives for the Dino(saur)SIG | ARPA: simasd!pnet07!donm@nosc.mil - San Diego Computer Society - | INET: donm@pnet07.cts.com ------------------------------ Date: 11 Mar 91 18:05:04 GMT From: simasd!baron!pnet07!donm@nosc.mil (Don Maslin) Subject: Re: VT100 emulation Message-ID: <1991Mar11.180504.29530@simasd.uucp> PHR00JG%TECHNION@TAUNIVM.TAU.AC.IL ("Jacques J. Goldberg") writes: >4-Who knows David's new e-mail address so I can send him that patch, in > case there is any general interest in it? The last address that I have for David is !wet!pallio!dg and is a couple of months old. You might try it, Jacques. - don Keeper of the CP/M System Disk | UUCP: {nosc ucsd crash ncr-sd}!pnet07!donm Archives for the Dino(saur)SIG | ARPA: simasd!pnet07!donm@nosc.mil - San Diego Computer Society - | INET: donm@pnet07.cts.com ------------------------------ Date: 17 Mar 91 18:36:08 GMT From: zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!uupsi!sunic!dkuug!diku!ankh@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu (Klaus Ambrass) Subject: Re: VT100KAY.LBR problems Message-ID: <1991Mar17.183608.26443@odin.diku.dk> cwcst1@unix.cis.pitt.edu (Carol Coates) writes: > Greetings. I must have taken a mouthfull of that stupidity-potion. > That file, VT100KAY.AZM, is *ALREADY* uncompressed! Sorry about > that last post, folks. Well, I had that prob myself once. Way back then, it was due to the packing format applied by who ever packed the file in the first place. I have an Amstrad cpc6128 and found that sometimes, when you CRUNCH a file you can UNCR it, but not UNCRLZH it. I know it sounds loony, but the two programs are in fact different. Maybe you have them same prob here. I dunno. You might try to TYPE the file and look at the displayed content. If you get something containing a string of text that looks like a filename within the 100 bytes or so, it probably IS still packed - one way or the other. Perhaps your file is simply renamed? (probably tried that already, but don't blame me for telling you the obvious though :-)) Oh, another stupid thing I got worked out only last month is that SOME people (Amsters) really use the PC's LHARC packing format to crunch the files they want packed. I found that a small tool - LHRD - can extract files from PC's *.LZH to CP/M standard files. If you still have a troublesome file then Kill The Bastard! > It hit me, after I had a snack... lack of calories, I guess ;-) We'll come back to that later. > Take care. Now, make up your mind! -- B-) | aka: ankh@diku.dk | +-------------------------------------------------------| Department Of | |"If you're free tonight, call me, | Computer Science, | | and I'll come around and tie you up again." | Univ. of Copenhagen | ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V91 Issue #57 ************************************ 18-Mar-91 18:20:55-MST,11112;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Mon, 18 Mar 91 18:15:16 MST From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V91 #58 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Message-ID: <910318181517.V91N58@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> INFO-CPM Digest Mon, 18 Mar 91 Volume 91 : Issue 58 Today's Topics: Hard Disk Skew K10 and a BBS? Re: About CP/M-80 emulator on PC AT Re: Sharp MZ5600 running DOS ? Re: VT100KAY.LBR problems Sharp MZ5600 running DOS ? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 15 Mar 91 21:51:44 GMT From: zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!ut-emx!austex!roadhog@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu (Lindsay Haisley) Subject: Hard Disk Skew Message-ID: I have a Kaypro 10 with a TurboROM and a Seagate ST-125 21 meg 3.5 in hd. I used the Advent ADVFMT program to set up the drive, using a skew of 1, the same, I suppose as an interleave of 1:1. The drive access seems slow, compared, for instance to another K-10 I have (my BBS) with a ST-251-1 5.25 in. 40 meg hd. Are there any programs out there that anyone knows of which will give one information on the optimum skew for a particular machine/hd combination. The controller is the original Western Digital WD-1002. Lindsay Haisley "Everything works if you let it!" --- Travis J. Redfish ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ uucp: austex!roadhog@emx.utexas.edu BBS: 512-259-1261 (Znode 77 - aka - Kaypro Club of Austin) ------------------------------ Date: 18 Mar 91 05:57:56 GMT From: zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!unix.cis.pitt.edu!fmgst@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu (Filip Gieszczykiewicz) Subject: K10 and a BBS? Message-ID: <104098@unix.cis.pitt.edu> Greetings. I'm sorry to say that my CP/M days are numbered - I'm finally getting a 486 (with a 200MB ide, SVGA, etc :-) and I have to make up my mind on what to do with my Kaypro 10 :-( I can do any of the following (or you can suggest something else): 1) I am considering getting a TurboROM (I know, I know... I've been saying this for a while.. ;-) since I already have a 30MB and the standard 10MB drive (40MB total) and run a BBS. We have a local BBS that has some CP/M stuff - something like 600K - not much, really. I plan to fill up the drives with stuff from simtel - I already have all of the Kaypro and ZCPR 3.3 stuff :-) I have a nice ZCPR 3.3 setup and people have told me that it will be much easier to run a BBS on my setup that on stock CP/M 2.2 (anyone comment?) I just got the hang of zex and the wheel "business"... Anyways, anyone can recomment a decent BBS package? Space is not a problem but I would like the system to be "nice" to both the people who are seasoned CP/M users and to those who just got a CP/M machine for $25 :-) Anyone? 2) Sell my K10 as it is - I'm thinking against this since I'm in the local computer club and there aren't that many CP/M people in the club (if I withdraw, there will be 2 :-) so I might just keep it to keep the group "reasonably" alive... 3) Trash the K10 motherboard and put in a passive backplane with a CPU (IBM-on-a-board) card and a HD and FD controller. That way I have a portable PC... the floppy drive is IBM compatible, so is the HD, and I think I can get the display to work with a MDA card (if not, I can always get a CRT that fits and DOES work with MDA). If that's the case, the MB is up for grabs :-) 4) Sell my K10 on the net :-( I'm really interested in #1 - make a BBS out of it. I already put 2 more 3 1/4" fans so I don't think 24H operation will hurt it. All I need now is the software. I'm open to suggestion. Take care. Please use e-mail when replying. P.S. I'll take a look at the simtel BBS stuff tonight and report on it's performance this week.. (well, _next_ week) -- _______________________________________________________________________________ "The Force will be with you, always." It _is_ with me and has been for 11 years Filip Gieszczykiewicz "... a Jedi does it with a mind trick... " ;-) FMGST@PITTVMS or fmgst@unix.cis.pitt.edu "My ideas. ALL MINE!!" ------------------------------ Date: 15 Mar 91 21:20:35 GMT From: pilchuck!dataio!fnx!del@uunet.uu.net (Dag Erik Lindberg) Subject: Re: About CP/M-80 emulator on PC AT Message-ID: <904@fnx.UUCP> In article <9103110804.AA04098@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> MONTARON@FRP8V11.BITNET (Alexandre Montaron) writes: >Hello| > > I've juste bought MEDIA-MASTER v5.01 which now include a CP/M-Z80 >software emulator... for PC XT or AT... I have Media Master. It's a *great* product for copying various formats of CPM disks to MessyDos, but it's emulation of CPM was pretty poor. I couldn't get Zork to give a nice looking display :-) I found Z80MU to be a much better product for emulation. > It emulator either Z80, 8080 (software), and for which who have a >NEC V20 instead of a intel processor: 8080 (hardware)... because this chip The latest version (the commercial version) of Z80MU also supports this, although Joan recommends against it due to some (unspecified) bugs in the 8080 emulation of the V20. > This emulator permit to acces I/O port... To acces RS232C for example (|) The commercial version of Z80MU also allows access to I/O ports. >And they have add a new Bdos fonction which permit to call any PC's bios fnct > But it simply emulator a CPM22 (or perhaps a ZCPR because of the LIST cmd?) > But it exist... Try it | Bye| Alex. I have not gotten the auto-install version of ZCPR to work with Z80MU, because there is no real BDOS, just a funny little 256 byte trap area. I suspect that Media Master would suffer from the same deficiency(?). Regarding Z80MU: It is an impressive product. I tried the commercial version and did not like it, for a very application specific reason. I actually run Unix, with an MSDOS emulator, running the CPM emulator. The new commercial version of Z80MU has gobs of screen output with formatting and cursor addressing junk. Probably looks great on a regular PC, but in this particular configuration screen I/O is expensive. My application is a database written many years ago when I was running CPM exclusively and is too expensive to port. I find disk operations are considerably faster than the old 4Mhz Z80 floppy only system. CPU intensive stuff is noticeably, but not objectionably, slower than the Z80. (This is on a 20Mhz 386, under VP/IX). Screen I/O on the Z80MU freeware version is slow, but not painfull. Under the commercial version it is just unacceptable (Note that this is probably not the case running under standard MSDOS where direct screen I/O is really direct). BUT: I picked up a PC BLUE Z80 coprocessor for a good price, and when installed in an otherwise worthless XT I found an excellent CPM machine. Running at a full 4Mhz, combined with the XT's fast disk I/O and 40MB of hard disk, it makes an excellent solution. This is not really CPM, in that you work at the dos prompt, and all normal DOS tools are available (such as a real 'make' which I never had under CPM, and real date stamping, etc), while the CPM programs automatically run under the coprocessor and exit back to dos when done. The real disadvantage is that I have to work on the XT machine instead of the much preferrable Unix machine. Now if I could just get a coprocessor that would run under Unix, I might have the perfect setup :-) -- del AKA Erik Lindberg uunet!pilchuck!fnx!del Who is John Galt? ------------------------------ Date: 14 Mar 91 17:53:31 GMT From: mcsun!ukc!mucs!p4.cs.man.ac.uk!vanaards@uunet.uu.net (Steven van Aardt) Subject: Re: Sharp MZ5600 running DOS ? Message-ID: Does anyone out there, know how I can go about converting this CP/M '86 based machine to run DOS ? I believe that someone has got DOS 2.1 running on it, if so I'd be very grateful if you could reply. Steven van Aardt. -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- - JANET E-mail : vanaards@uk.ac.man.cs.p4 (Steven van Aardt) -- -- Warning this user has been designated for termination on the 21.6.91 -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: 18 Mar 91 12:27:55 GMT From: csusac!sactoh0!ijpc!ianj@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu (Ian Justman) Subject: Re: VT100KAY.LBR problems Message-ID: <9g9Zy1w164w@ijpc.UUCP> ankh@diku.dk (Klaus Ambrass) writes: > cwcst1@unix.cis.pitt.edu (Carol Coates) writes: > > > > Greetings. I must have taken a mouthfull of that stupidity-potion. > > That file, VT100KAY.AZM, is *ALREADY* uncompressed! Sorry about > > that last post, folks. > > Well, I had that prob myself once. > Way back then, it was due to the packing format applied by who ever packed > the file in the first place. > I have an Amstrad cpc6128 and found that sometimes, when you CRUNCH a > file you can UNCR it, but not UNCRLZH it. I know it sounds loony, but the ^^^^^^^^^^^ FALSE, FALSE, FALSE!!!!!! > two programs are in fact different. (flamethrower on maximum and enjoying it!!!!) YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY DEAD WRONG!!!!!! I USE UCRLZH.COM TO UNCRUNCH ?Z? FILES ALL THE TIME!!!!!! (flamethrower brought down to minimum) IF YOU WANT TO MAKE ME EAT MY WORDS, TRY IT!!! I know I'm right about this one. I know because I've used it. Have YOU tried it? UCRLZH11.COM _WILL_ uncrunch ?Q?, ?Z?, and ?Y? files. What you just said is one of the biggest crocks I've ever seen! (flamethrower off) Sorry about that. I had to get you with this one with the fullest possible permissible setting on my flamethrower without cussing (if it WAS permitted, I would have said and/or called you some real doozies). Mainly because I use the program ALL THE TIME and I _KNOW_ what it can do. ------------------------------ Date: 14 Mar 91 13:22:35 GMT From: mcsun!ukc!mucs!p4.cs.man.ac.uk!vanaards@uunet.uu.net (Steven van Aardt) Subject: Sharp MZ5600 running DOS ? Message-ID: Steven van Aardt. -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- - JANET E-mail : vanaards@uk.ac.man.cs.p4 (Steven van Aardt) -- -- Warning this user has been designated for termination on the 21.6.91 -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V91 Issue #58 ************************************ 19-Mar-91 19:57:01-MST,9055;000000000000 Mail-From: W8SDZ created at 19-Mar-91 19:46:34 Return-Path: Date: Tue, 19 Mar 91 19:46:34 MST From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V91 #59 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Message-ID: <910319194635.V91N59@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> INFO-CPM Digest Tue, 19 Mar 91 Volume 91 : Issue 59 Today's Topics: Flame returned (was Re: VT100KAY.LBR problems) Re: Small Comm Program(s) (2 msgs) Re: VT100KAY.LBR problems (2 msgs) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 19 Mar 91 05:47:26 GMT From: waikato.ac.nz!comp.vuw.ac.nz!actrix!ewen@decwrl.dec.com (Ewen McNeill) Subject: Flame returned (was Re: VT100KAY.LBR problems) Message-ID: <1991Mar19.054726.11637@actrix.gen.nz> In article <9g9Zy1w164w@ijpc.UUCP> ianj@ijpc.UUCP (Ian Justman) writes: > ankh@diku.dk (Klaus Ambrass) writes: > > > Well, I had that prob myself once. > > Way back then, it was due to the packing format applied by who ever packed > > the file in the first place. > > I have an Amstrad cpc6128 and found that sometimes, when you CRUNCH a > > file you can UNCR it, but not UNCRLZH it. I know it sounds loony, but the > ^^^^^^^^^^^ FALSE, FALSE, FALSE!!!!!! > > two programs are in fact different. > > (flamethrower on maximum and enjoying it!!!!) > > YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY DEAD WRONG!!!!!! > > I USE UCRLZH.COM TO UNCRUNCH ?Z? FILES ALL THE TIME!!!!!! > And YOU don't really know what you are talking about. I have had the same problems as Klaus has had -- I also own a CPC6128. The problem he describes is exactly true, for the CPC6128. There is a bug (somewhere) in the Bios. I am going to have to go reverse-engineering it (there is no Bios source available to my knowledge). FTR, I have successfully used UCRLZH to uncrunch files (.?Z?), so it definately does work. This was not off the floppy drives on the Amstrad, however (this is where the bug is). So the real answer is that you are both right.... :-) Sortof. > IF YOU WANT TO MAKE ME EAT MY WORDS, TRY IT!!! I know I'm right > about this one. I know because I've used it. Have YOU tried it? > UCRLZH11.COM _WILL_ uncrunch ?Q?, ?Z?, and ?Y? files. What you > just said is one of the biggest crocks I've ever seen! If you own an Amstrad, and you haven't had any problems, I would love to hear what you do. Otherwise, YOU don't know exactly what you are talking about. May I suggest, in future, that you don't jump in with all guns blazing (to mix metaphors), and instead find out why the person made the statement? Also, FTR, the reason that one program works (UNCR), and another doesn't (UNCRLZH), seems to be connected with the amount of register preservation they do, the amount of use they make of the extra Z80 registers, what they actually call, and a few other things. For instance, unzip (David Goodenough) doesn't work too well on the Amstrad drives for some reason. It works fine off my Ram disk (the patch for which appears to have been made (autoinstall program) at a higher level than the bug) however. [BTW, this is nothing against David's program -- it SHOULD work perfectly on the Amstrad, and does on other systems] Unarc (I forget who wrote it at the moment), on the other hand, works perfectly. I looked through the source, and saw lots of places where it used the extra registers very carefully, and preserved them all the way through (interupts off), etc. The comments mentioned problems with extra register usage on "various computers". Further information, (for those with advice rather than flames!), it appears that everytime this bug occurs the same piece of code/whatever is copied into the disk-sector buffer, rather than the sector required. Only 128 bytes long, but morethan enough to scamble anything that is supposed to be being decompressed. I discovered this when one of my editors (ZDE - I don't have any source to check what it does) had the same problem. One more little thing to note, the problem doesn't occur all the time, and as far as I can tell it happens at random. This cannot be true, but I haven't discovered what causes it yet. One possible lead is that sometimes a file will fail, and then if the operation is tried again after resetting the drives, it will work. [This is CP/M+, BTW, the drives are supposed to auto-reset when needed] Sorry, everyone, that this has got this long. It was intended to rebut the flame, but the opportunity to seek others opinion on the problem couldn't be missed. Any useful suggestions are welcomed, and any off-the-cuff flames will be dealt with in a suitable manner (ie, probably ignored!). -- Ewen McNeill. Email: ewen@actrix.gen.nz ------------------------------ Date: 16 Mar 91 04:05:17 GMT From: usc!samsung!munnari.oz.au!brolga!bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au!marlin.jcu.edu.au!zlraa@ucsd.edu (Ross Alford) Subject: Re: Small Comm Program(s) Message-ID: <1991Mar16.040517.17637@marlin.jcu.edu.au> In article <1991Mar12.172759.6948@veeble.han.de> proppi@veeble.han.de (Paul Lenz) writes: >In article pevans@cynic.wimsey.bc.ca (Phillip Evans) writes: >>Hello everyone _ I want to know the smalles comm programs for CP/M. All >>I need are terminal capabilities, ASCII capture, and Xmodem. The best >>one will be shoehorned into 63K of EPROM which is why size is a premium. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^!!! This is CP/M, not Mess-Dos. I've never seen ANY comms program for CP/M bigger than about 40K or so, and that is MEX1.14, which does all sorts of tricks. I suspect that just about any program you pick will fit on a 64K ROM. I'd suggest trying MDM7XX, for which the full source is (or was, ca 1984) available on SIMTEL. You can always cut out things you don't want. Ross Alford zlraa@marlin.jcu.edu.au -- Ross A. Alford Department of Zoology Internet: zlraa@marlin.jcu.edu.au James Cook University Phone: +61 77 81 4732 Townsville, Qld 4811 Australia ------------------------------ Date: 18 Mar 91 17:36:00 GMT From: zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!casbah.acns.nwu.edu!nucsrl!tellab5!laidbak!amiganet!austral!rrezaian@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu (Russell Rezaian) Subject: Re: Small Comm Program(s) Message-ID: Just to throw my own 2d in, if you are looking for term programs for CP/M that you can readily find source to, you might want to try Kermit. I know the source is availabe, that is how it is distributed. I have the 4.0 source, and I have modified it to work with some of my stranger machines, so it is VERY flexible that way. The only problem I can see, and this applies for most of the other programs too, I think, is that most of the CP/M programs that I am familiar with don't maintain the strict segregation of code and data space that is essential if you are going to run the prog off of the ROM. You may be forced to move the entire routine to RAM as part of your startup, and then page the ROM out. The only other alternative is going through hundreds of K of assembler source trying to movde all of the data stores to wherever in your memory map you have some RAM, not my idea of fun. Good Luck! -- +-------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ | Russell Rezaian | amiganet.chi.il.us!austral!rrezaian | | P.O. Box 479 | | | Naperville, Il. 60566-0479 | "One is best punished for one's | | USA | Virtues." Nietzsche. | +-------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ Date: 16 Mar 91 12:51:25 GMT From: pasteur!agate!stanford.edu!snorkelwacker.mit.edu!usc!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!unix.cis.pitt.edu!cwcst1@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Carol Coates) Subject: Re: VT100KAY.LBR problems Message-ID: <103802@unix.cis.pitt.edu> Greetings. I must have taken a mouthfull of that stupidity-potion. That file, VT100KAY.AZM, is *ALREADY* uncompressed! Sorry about that last post, folks. It hit me, after I had a snack... lack of calories, I guess ;-) Take care. ------------------------------ Date: 20 Mar 91 08:08:40 GMT From: waikato.ac.nz!comp.vuw.ac.nz!am.dsir.govt.nz!marcamd!mercury!kcbbs!kc@decwrl.dec.com (Antony Warbrooke) Subject: Re: VT100KAY.LBR problems Message-ID: <1991Mar20.080840.286@kcbbs> How would I get a copy of the library VT100KAY.LBR ??? As I come from New Zealand I don't really want to make any large Toll Calls to the States and was wondering if anyone knew of any place in N.Z. that would have a copy of this file??? Any help would be most appreciated!!! Thanks in advance! ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V91 Issue #59 ************************************ 21-Mar-91 10:21:56-MST,12728;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Thu, 21 Mar 91 10:15:18 MST From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V91 #60 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Message-ID: <910321101519.V91N60@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> INFO-CPM Digest Thu, 21 Mar 91 Volume 91 : Issue 60 Today's Topics: Apple II/CPM communications prog? Cromemco Z-2D need docs for random S100, Weird Stuff Re: Flame returned (was Re: VT100KAY.LBR problems) Re: Z-80 Softcard Question??? Z-80 softcard question??? Z8001 and C900... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 19 Mar 91 16:09:41 GMT From: hpda!hpcuhc!mck@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Doug McKenzie) Subject: Apple II/CPM communications prog? Message-ID: <2050001@hpcuhc.cup.hp.com> My Dad has an Apple II (possibly II+, not IIe) with a CPM card, off which he runs in particular Wordstar. However, his only communications program runs on Apple DOS, making him unable to edit email very well, or hack up responses to news articles :-). Could anyone offer a recommendation for a (public domain hopefully) CPM communication program that works on an Apple? Thanks a lot! Doug McKenzie HP HP-UX Support mck@cup.hp.com or ...hplabs!hpda!mck 408 447-4428 ------------------------------ Date: 20 Mar 91 17:47:33 GMT From: zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uwm.edu!ogicse!usenet!prism.CS.ORST.EDU!peterse@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu (Erik Petersen) Subject: Cromemco Z-2D Message-ID: <1991Mar20.174733.28627@lynx.CS.ORST.EDU> I have a Cromemco Z-2D computer system running version 2.36 of CDOS (a CP/M derivative). What I would like to know is, does anyone out there have such a system and, if so, do you have a hard- drive? I need to know what the part number is on the controller and what kind of interface the controller expects to the harddrive (ST-506 perhaps?) Of course, if you want to sell your harddrive and controller, I'm interested. Thank you. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Erik Petersen (Home Phone: 753-1829) peterse@mist.cs.ORST.EDU ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: 20 Mar 91 20:59:15 GMT From: hoptoad!curt@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Curt Mayer) Subject: need docs for random S100, Weird Stuff Message-ID: <16322@hoptoad.uucp> I managed to snag some nice S100 boards from Weird Stuff in Santa Clara at absurd prices. anyway, i need documentation or pointers, or even "thats garbage" on a few of them. DTC 10-1 sasi/scsi host adaptor. Dual Dmem 256k memory card Dual Emem 1M memory card UCI Easyram 2M memory card CCS streaming tape interface JB systems fd/sasi interface JB systems Z80 slave processor DPC-180 looks like 64k z80 slave board CCS 4 port serial I've got docs for just about all morrow and compupro cards, so if anybody has a need for that kind of thing, get in touch. -- curt mayer cmayer@oracle.com curt@hoptoad.UUCP 415-387-0217 home 415-506-2504 work ------------------------------ Date: 20 Mar 91 08:43:43 GMT From: csusac!sactoh0!ijpc!ianj@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu (Ian Justman) Subject: Re: Flame returned (was Re: VT100KAY.LBR problems) Message-ID: ewen@actrix.gen.nz (Ewen McNeill) writes: > And YOU don't really know what you are talking about. I have had the > same problems as Klaus has had -- I also own a CPC6128. The problem he > describes is exactly true, for the CPC6128. There is a bug (somewhere) > in the Bios. I am going to have to go reverse-engineering it (there is > no Bios source available to my knowledge). (stuff deleted along the way) > FTR, I have successfully used UCRLZH to uncrunch files (.?Z?), so it > definately does work. This was not off the floppy drives on the > Amstrad, however (this is where the bug is). > > Sorry, everyone, that this has got this long. It was intended to rebut > the flame, but the opportunity to seek others opinion on the problem > couldn't be missed. > > Any useful suggestions are welcomed, and any off-the-cuff flames will be > dealt with in a suitable manner (ie, probably ignored!). My deepest apologies. I guess I assumed that all BIOSes were pretty much well-behaved and it seems to be restricted to some BIOSes. Also, it probably has something to do with the fact that those computers are running CP/M Plus, which I've heard can be flakey at times. That's why I stick with my CP/M 2.2 stuff (highly uprated w/ZCPR33 and stuff like that...) ------------------------------ Date: 21 Mar 91 09:39:51 GMT From: csusac!sactoh0!ijpc!ianj@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu (Ian Justman) Subject: Re: Z-80 Softcard Question??? Message-ID: <5ok6y1w164w@ijpc.UUCP> umsmit72@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Kenneth G. Smith) writes: > > I have recently obtained a CP/M card for my Apple II+ computer (without > documentation) and was wondering if anyone could help me out with a few > questions... > > 1) The card has four binary switches on it. They are all set to the > OFF position. I was wondering what exactly these switches are for. Two turn interrupts on and off, one deals with memory mapping (the Z80 card remaps the system's memory rather radically to take into account that Pages 0-3 are sacred to the 6502, but you can alternatively switch that mapping off to make the Z80 see it as the 6502 sees it; for CP/M to work properly, you MUST turn mapping on because you don't want the 6502 and the Z80 throwing each other curves... (grin). Also, the point needs to be made that the card in question, the Softcard, distributed by Microsoft, as in the ORIGINAL Softcard, not the Softcard //e, talks DIRECTLY to the Apple hardware just like the 6502 does. In fact, when the Z80 has control, it puts the 6502 to sleep (I believe it does nothing more than execute wait states).), and the remaining one controls how the card interfaces to the Apple DMA daisy chain. The switches are like this: sw1 sw2 sw3 sw4 MEM MAP DMA IRQ/INT NMI <--- SAME ON BOTH DAISY ^ ^ CHAIN | |_ Z80 NAME |_____ 6502 NAME Sw1: On: Disables memory remapping Off: Enables memory remapping (Apple CP/M default) Sw2: On: When DMA daisy chain input is dropped low, the Z80 will drop what it's currently doing to let a high-priority device do some DMA and relinquish control back to the 6502 Off: Won't stop at all no matter what priority device is requesting DMA ___ ___ Sw3: On: Hooks the Z80's NMI line up with the Apple's NMI line on the expansion bus so the Z80 will be interrupted upon receipt of a non-maskable interrupt. The Softcard recommends that interrupts, maskable or not, should be handled by the 6502 which also sees the interrupt, so it can clear its interrupt status and return control back to the Z80. Off: Disconnects the line. ___ ___ Sw4: On: Hooks the Z80's INT line up with the Apple's IRQ line on the expansion bus. Discussion is the same as above. Off: Disconnects the line. The default settings for the switches should be all of them off for Apple CP/M to work properly. > 2) Of the several disks I obtained with the card, I have a program > called 'NULU' which deals with libraries. I was wondering what the > purpose of a library is and how you go about using one. I have > only one '.LBR' file on the disks called 'LUX42.LBR' (on the modem7 > program disk) and haven't been able to manipulate the data in it to > any great extent (other than listing it's members using 'NULU'). LUX will deal with libraries too, but they're designed for RCP/M's. To extract the LBR's contents (provided they're not compressed), type "-x" and then a drive/file specification, most often times the file specificaiton will be "*.*" to extract everything. If you were to type "-x b:*.*" at the NULU prompt in an open library, that means to extract all the files to drive B:, but it won't unsqueeze the files if they're squeezed (those files, often times, will have a "Q" as the second letter of the file's extension). For those files, use "-q" instead of "-x". To unsqueeze all files with Q as the second letter of the file type, type "-q b:*.?Q?" which will unsqueeze (or try to) all files with the letter "Q" as the second letter in the file type. Most CP/M programs with multiple files are in the .LBR format, but there are the occasional .ARK, .ARC, and .ZIP files. > I believe the card is refered to as a Z-80 Softcard and doesn't appear > to have any manufacturer's markings on it. Therefore, I don't believe > it is actually an Apple made card. As I said a couple of paragraphs ago, they were distributed by Microsoft. > Can anyone enlighten me soas I may get the maximum use out of this > system. I have used the CP/M OS with some success and really like what > it does for my rather modest system. If you have used CP/M on other computers, then using CP/M program on the Apple will be more or less the same as you have used them on, say an Osborne, a Kaypro, an SBC, or an S-100 box. However, if you plan to do a lot of stuff between operating systems, particularly in ProDOS, I very much suggest that you get a program called "Chameleon" which runs under Apple ProDOS and will transfer between all four major diskette formats, i.e. DOS 3.3, ProDOS (you'll need this to run Chameleon), Pascal (it will only support the 5 1/4" variety, I believe), and CP/M. Have fun! ------------------------------ Date: 20 Mar 91 15:13:00 GMT From: rochester!uhura.cc.rochester.edu!ee.rochester.edu!rochgte!f242.n260.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Tom.Rieger@cu-arpa.cs.cornell.edu (Tom Rieger) Subject: Z-80 softcard question??? Message-ID: <319.27E7E18C@rochgte.fidonet.org> -> 2) Of the several disks I obtained with the card, I have a program -> called 'NULU' which deals with libraries. I was wondering what the -> purpose of a library is and how you go about using one. I have -> only one '.LBR' file on the disks called 'LUX42.LBR' (on the modem7 -> program disk) and haven't been able to manipulate the data in it to -> any great extent (other than listing it's members using 'NULU'). NULU will also allow you to extract the member files. Use the -H command to see a listing of the various options available in NULU. A library file is simply a method of grouping certain files together into one file for transfer or storage. Often the files are also compressed in some way as well (squeezed, crunched etc...) T_RIEG@f242.n260.z1.fidonet.org -- Tom Rieger - via FidoNet node 1:260/230 UUCP: {smart-host}!ur-valhalla!rochgte!242!Tom.Rieger INTERNET: Tom.Rieger@f242.n260.z1.FIDONET.ORG ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Mar 91 07:55:13 EDT From: Alexandre Montaron Subject: Z8001 and C900... Hello| First thing... about ZP/EM (Media Master)... i haven't test it at all, but it emulat really faster than Z80MU... In Z80MU each BIOS function and BDOS entry point are replaced by the HALT instruction (which is trap) i think it's also true for ZP/EM but i've not look at | What's the price of Z80MU commercial release? To the person who have a Amstrad CPC 6128 (like me) where are you? In europe i suppose... In U.K. ? In Frence (like me...) ? Does a HARD DISK exist for the Amstrad ??? Other thing... I perhaps will bought a prototype Unix machine made by COMMODORE... His name is C900, it works with a Z8001 (i suppose you know it?), it has a HD 20Mo, one floppy 5"1/4, 512Ko de RAM... OS: Unix Beta0.9 this is also four RS232C, a monochrome terminal... The price is 3000Fr so about $600 ... Doesany one ever heard of this machine... i'll ask in the COMMODORE group | Bye| Alexandre Montaron ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V91 Issue #60 ************************************ 22-Mar-91 04:22:58-MST,10559;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Fri, 22 Mar 91 04:15:41 MST From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V91 #61 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Message-ID: <910322041542.V91N61@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> INFO-CPM Digest Fri, 22 Mar 91 Volume 91 : Issue 61 Today's Topics: About Amstrad' Bios bug | Cromemco z-2d Dead Otrona Attache Help with Kaypro terminal emulation Re: Flame returned (was Re: VT100KAY.LBR problems) Re: Z8001 and C900... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 21 Mar 91 20:48:49 EDT From: Alexandre Montaron Subject: About Amstrad' Bios bug | Hello| I'm happy (in fact no) that someone else has found the bug... which replace a good sector (a CPM's block of 128 bytes) by anything else... But if you typed ^C (equal to Bdos fnct number 13) it will work perfectly| I thought it is because of my ram-disk (DK'tronics 256Ko)... because one of my friend has a CPC w/o ram-disk and all work well| I've a clue about the bug All read & write disk access pass throught buffer (see BCB=Buffer Control Blk) There's at all 32Ko of buffer (as tou can call cache disk|) located on bank number 2 if i remember well. If the patch of the ram-disk alter this area it will bug when CPM attempt to save this block (perhaps it's the patch itself|) Because ^C flush (but not save) all buffer to disk... I think the answer is near | Make a list of BCB, search buffer & verify content of all buffer... to solve the bug you have to minimize buffers... It's my opinion... What do YOU thing of this ? I've the OPERATOR's AND PROGRAMMER's GUIDE for the AMSTRAD CPC6128 & PCW8256 by Digital Research Inc. & Amstrad Consumer Electronics plc... it's a very good book but it doesn't talk about the BIOS... and BCB (buffers) are manage by the BIOS (see also DPH=Disk Parameter Header... which contain a pointer to the first BCB...) I've an other book which talk about the BIOS but it's very short | Does someone have a better book which talk about programming (not using|) CP/M+ include BIOS part please... Thanks... I hope i've forgetten anything... Alex Montaron ------------------------------ Date: 22 Mar 91 06:31:00 GMT From: magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!ub!uhura.cc.rochester.edu!ee.rochester.edu!rochgte!f242.n260.z1.FIDONET.ORG!David.Barnes@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu (David Barnes) Subject: Cromemco z-2d Message-ID: <325.27E9B6A9@rochgte.fidonet.org> Erik; I have quite a bit of Cromemco equipment here, a couple of systems have hard disks, 1 has an 8inch IMI and the other has a 5.25 inch IMI (20 meg)... Cromemco had a couple of different hard disk controllers, the WDI and WDI-II boards were the earliest, then the STDC card came along, (st506 interface)... I have lots of docs if you are interested also... What do you use your machine for??? Do you have CROMIX??? David Barnes -- David Barnes - via FidoNet node 1:260/230 UUCP: {smart-host}!ur-valhalla!rochgte!242!David.Barnes INTERNET: David.Barnes@f242.n260.z1.FIDONET.ORG ------------------------------ Date: 21 Mar 91 16:29:46 GMT From: csusac!kaos!colu@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu (Luke Coletti 408-647-3736) Subject: Dead Otrona Attache Message-ID: <1991Mar21.162946.8947@kaos.mbari.org> A dead Otrona Attache was placed on my doorstep late one night, with its rightfull quardiansi, and probably gratefull ones at thati, no where to be found. Actually the Otrona for its time was quite the little box, a color graphics capability ect, I am quite impressed with its contruction as well. To bring it back to life I'll need to find someone who either was with the company or has a set of schematics. Symtoms are a totally inactive bus, so no monitor functions, the cpu was replaced and the ROMs examined no change. Any help would be appreciated. Luke MBARI colu@hp850.mbari.org ------------------------------ Date: 21 Mar 91 02:38:20 GMT From: ogicse!adaptive!asi.com!casey@decwrl.dec.com (Casey Bahr) Subject: Help with Kaypro terminal emulation Message-ID: <905@adaptive.UUCP> Sorry if this belongs in the FAQ file. I'm trying to use a modem communications program on my Kaypro 10. It appears to be a derivative of MDM730 (sic?). The on-line documentation, however, doesn't give me a clue as to what type of terminal it's emulating, which is where I'm having trouble. Somewhere else in other documentation I remember seeing that the Kaypro emulates a Lear-Siegler adm3a, so that's how I've tried setting the termcap on the Unix (Sun) machine I'm trying to connect to. Everything except vi seems to be working ok (TERM and TERMCAP in my environment look right for an adm3a). In vi I get a garbled screen that makes editing pretty difficult. I remember long ago using a Kaypro II and I think the same comm. pgm., but I don't remember how I got around this problem. I'm pretty illiterate in this area, so I'm hoping someone in this group can enlighten me or provide some heuristics to getting the termcap set properly. Or maybe direct me to a different comm. package. I do have a printed document for SUPRTERM, which says it emulates an adm3a, but I can't find that software on any of my disks. Thanks in advance, Casey Bahr casey@asi.com | ogicse!adaptive!casey | uunet!adaptive!casey Adaptive Solutions, Inc., 1400 NW Compton Dr. Suite 340, Beaverton, OR 97006 VOICE: (503) 690.1236 /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ FAX: (503) 690.1249 ------------------------------ Date: 21 Mar 91 21:23:30 GMT From: waikato.ac.nz!comp.vuw.ac.nz!actrix!ewen@decwrl.dec.com (Ewen McNeill) Subject: Re: Flame returned (was Re: VT100KAY.LBR problems) Message-ID: <1991Mar21.212330.21080@actrix.gen.nz> [I would send this by Email, but this site (way off in NZ), doesn't know about the UUCP psuedo-domain, and just bounces the stuff. Sorry, everyone else.] In article ianj@ijpc.UUCP (Ian Justman) writes: > [In reply to a flame rebuttal from ewen@actrix.gen.nz (Ewen McNeill)] > My deepest apologies. I guess I assumed that all BIOSes were > pretty much well-behaved and it seems to be restricted to some > BIOSes. Also, it probably has something to do with the fact that > those computers are running CP/M Plus, which I've heard can be > flakey at times. That's why I stick with my CP/M 2.2 stuff > (highly uprated w/ZCPR33 and stuff like that...) Your apology is accecpted. I have heard a fairly large number of BIOSes which have problems with various things - most written for Z80 machines in the days when 8080 code was the most common, so they assumed that they had the extra registers to themselves. This is no longer true. I doubt that the fact they are running CP/M+ has anything to do with it. CP/M+ seems okay to me, most of the time. Occassionaly it fails to relog in a disk, but that is only because of the way it detects a new disk (directory checksumming). No where near as much hassle as logging in disks under 2.2! The trouble with the Amstrad implementation of CP/M 2.2 is that they used a graphics screen (all the machine has - bit map 16K), which steals most of the useful memory. There is only about 42K TPA - hardly enough to do anything. -- Ewen McNeill. Email: ewen@actrix.gen.nz ------------------------------ Date: 21 Mar 91 10:01:16 GMT From: csusac!sactoh0!ijpc!ianj@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu (Ian Justman) Subject: Re: Z8001 and C900... Message-ID: MONTARON@FRP8V11.BITNET (Alexandre Montaron) writes: > Hello| > > First thing... about ZP/EM (Media Master)... i haven't test it at all, > but it emulat really faster than Z80MU... In Z80MU each BIOS function and > BDOS entry point are replaced by the HALT instruction (which is trap) > i think it's also true for ZP/EM but i've not look at | > What's the price of Z80MU commercial release? I've never heard of that one. Who puts that one out? I would like to kick the tires on that one. As for the "HALT" instruction, it does seem a logical way to write a software emulation of the BIOS. As for how MS-DOS picks it up, curious how that would work. Nick Sayer wrote someting similar, but this is under UNIX. > To the person who have a Amstrad CPC 6128 (like me) where are you? > In europe i suppose... In U.K. ? In Frence (like me...) ? > Does a HARD DISK exist for the Amstrad ??? You might want to try either Emerald MicroWare (whose address I could go and snag) if anyone wants it) or any type of controller that plugs into the Z80 slot. Most of these controllers come with software that will talk to the hard disk no matter what kind of machine it's running on. I've seen such a setup which even comes with source code for its BIOS so it's possible for me to get a system like this for my Ampro (for which I have source for its BIOS _AND_ main ROM) such that the entire BIOS which will talk to both hard and floppy disks is entirely self-contained, and can even boot from the hard disk and not have to boot only from the floppy and manually (or semiautomatically) run a hard drive initialization program (not format, but put routines up so the system can talk to the hard drive). > Other thing... I perhaps will bought a prototype Unix machine made by > COMMODORE... His name is C900, it works with a Z8001 (i suppose you know > it?), it has a HD 20Mo, one floppy 5"1/4, 512Ko de RAM... OS: Unix Beta0.9 > this is also four RS232C, a monochrome terminal... > The price is 3000Fr so about $600 ... > Doesany one ever heard of this machine... i'll ask in the COMMODORE group | > Bye| Alexandre Montaron Gads, you have me salivating!!!!! I know this part of the message belongs elsewhere, but I thought I'd ask this: Will it be available in the US? If so, that could finally put purely UNIX machines in the hands of commoners. Then I could gloat as my pro-MESSY-DOS friends are dumbfounded of what it could do. ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V91 Issue #61 ************************************ 23-Mar-91 01:34:33-MST,9904;000000000000 Mail-From: W8SDZ created at 23-Mar-91 01:27:40 Return-Path: Date: Sat, 23 Mar 91 01:27:39 MST From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V91 #62 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Message-ID: <910323012740.V91N62@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> INFO-CPM Digest Sat, 23 Mar 91 Volume 91 : Issue 62 Today's Topics: 8080 macro cross-assembler to run under unix 9600 Baud Kermit for the 128 Kaypro TurboROM Re: Apple II/CPM communications prog? (2 msgs) Re: Help with Kaypro terminal emulation (2 msgs) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 22 Mar 91 18:14:47 GMT From: eru!hagbard!sunic!news.funet.fi!tut!nn86302@bloom-beacon.mit.edu (Niilo Neuvo) Subject: 8080 macro cross-assembler to run under unix Message-ID: I'm looking for a 8080 macro cross-assembler to run under unix. Our site had a program called zmac, which is fo Z80 and the manual page says: The Zmac assembler is modeled after the Intel 8080 macro cross-assembler for the Intel 8080 by Ken Borgendale. So does anyone know the name of this program, where to get it from or how to contact Ken Borgendale. The only thing left of zmac here is the manual page, so I can`t check the sources either. So finding a ftp site that has zmac would propbaly help me a lot. Please respond by mail. And please note that this article is a crossposting. -- NN NN NN NN NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN NNNN N NN N NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN NNNNNN N NN N NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN NNNNNNNN NN NN NN NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN ------------------------------ Date: 23 Mar 91 02:35:10 GMT From: magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!samsung!noose.ecn.purdue.edu!gn.ecn.purdue.edu!rferguso@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu (Robert S. Ferguson) Subject: 9600 Baud Kermit for the 128 Message-ID: <1991Mar23.023510.3540@gn.ecn.purdue.edu> Is there a version of Kermit for the Commodore 128 that will support 9600 baud? The c128 can support 9600, but the version of Kermit that I have runs in the 64 mode, and only goes up to 2400 baud. Kermit is the only file transfer program that works with my UNIX account. By the way, I have never really used the cp/m mode of my 128, so I would need some way of running cp/m Kermit off of Commodore formated disks. I have no problem downloading binaries in 64 mode, except that it is very slow. My system includes a c128, 1571 drive, and an 80 column monitor. Thanks in advance, I have previously posted to this newsgroup the information that the TurboROM for the Kaypro CP/M computers is available from Jay Sage (Sage Microsystems East). This is incorrect. Jay Sage does NOT sell the TurboROM. TThe Advent TurboROM for the Kaypros is available from Charles B. Stafford, 4000 Norris Ave., Sacramento, CA 95812, phone 916-483-0312. He has bought out the stock from the now defunct Advent Corp. and is marketing it from his home. He has a variety of items from Advent's old line, including the WD-1002 controllers, decoder boards, etc. "Everything works if you let it!" --- Travis J. Redfish ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ uucp: austex!roadhog@emx.utexas.edu BBS: 512-259-1261 (Znode 77 - aka - Kaypro Club of Austin) ------------------------------ Date: 22 Mar 91 08:19:26 GMT From: csusac!sactoh0!ijpc!ianj@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu (Ian Justman) Subject: Re: Apple II/CPM communications prog? Message-ID: <4mB8y2w164w@ijpc.UUCP> ianj@ijpc.UUCP (Ian Justman) writes: > mck@hpcuhc.cup.hp.com (Doug McKenzie) writes: << various stuff deleted >> > > Could anyone offer a recommendation for a (public domain hopefully) CPM > > communication program that works on an Apple? > > > > Thanks a lot! > > I've gotten ZMP and Qterm (and subsequently UUCP, but I haven't > tested it) to run on SoftCard-equipped Apple II Plus myself. But > I need to know what kind of Z80 card you're using. If you're > using a Microsoft SoftCard, ALS's Z-Card or Z-Engine, or an > Applied Engineering Z-80 card, I can help you. If it's ALS's > CP/M card or PCPI's AppliCard, I cannot help you. I forgot to mention that both Qterm and ZMP are both public domain and very good programs. ------------------------------ Date: 22 Mar 91 08:11:34 GMT From: csusac!sactoh0!ijpc!ianj@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu (Ian Justman) Subject: Re: Apple II/CPM communications prog? Message-ID: mck@hpcuhc.cup.hp.com (Doug McKenzie) writes: > My Dad has an Apple II (possibly II+, not IIe) with a CPM card, off which he > runs in particular Wordstar. However, his only communications program runs > on Apple DOS, making him unable to edit email very well, or hack up > responses to news articles :-). > > Could anyone offer a recommendation for a (public domain hopefully) CPM > communication program that works on an Apple? > > Thanks a lot! > > Doug McKenzie > HP HP-UX Support > mck@cup.hp.com or ...hplabs!hpda!mck > 408 447-4428 I've gotten ZMP and Qterm (and subsequently UUCP, but I haven't tested it) to run on SoftCard-equipped Apple II Plus myself. But I need to know what kind of Z80 card you're using. If you're using a Microsoft SoftCard, ALS's Z-Card or Z-Engine, or an Applied Engineering Z-80 card, I can help you. If it's ALS's CP/M card or PCPI's AppliCard, I cannot help you. ------------------------------ Date: 22 Mar 91 18:25:03 GMT From: baron!baron!pnet07!donm@nosc.mil (Don Maslin) Subject: Re: Help with Kaypro terminal emulation Message-ID: <1991Mar22.182503.201@simasd.uucp> casey@asi.com (Casey Bahr) writes: > >I'm trying to use a modem communications program on my Kaypro 10. >It appears to be a derivative of MDM730 (sic?). The on-line >documentation, however, doesn't give me a clue as to what type of >terminal it's emulating, which is where I'm having trouble. Somewhere >else in other documentation I remember seeing that the Kaypro emulates >a Lear-Siegler adm3a, so that's how I've tried setting the termcap >on the Unix (Sun) machine I'm trying to connect to. Everything >except vi seems to be working ok (TERM and TERMCAP in my environment >look right for an adm3a). In vi I get a garbled screen that >makes editing pretty difficult. I remember long ago using a Kaypro II >and I think the same comm. pgm., but I don't remember how I got around >this problem. > >I'm pretty illiterate in this area, so I'm hoping someone in this >group can enlighten me or provide some heuristics to getting the >termcap set properly. Or maybe direct me to a different comm. package. >I do have a printed document for SUPRTERM, which says it emulates an >adm3a, but I can't find that software on any of my disks. > To my knowledge, all of the public domain communication packages use overlays to tailor them to a particular computer. Therefore, if your MDM730, or whatever, runs on your KP-10 there is a very high probability that it has the Kaypro's ADM-3 emulation built in. If it would be useful to you, I could uue Superterm and send it off to you. However, in my opinion it is a less desirable program. Of the old standbys, my personal preference would be for MEX114. - don Keeper of the CP/M System Disk | UUCP: {nosc ucsd crash ncr-sd}!pnet07!donm Archives for the Dino(saur)SIG | ARPA: simasd!pnet07!donm@nosc.mil - San Diego Computer Society - | INET: donm@pnet07.cts.com ------------------------------ Date: 22 Mar 91 21:49:15 GMT From: att!emory!ogicse!intelhf!ptdcell0!snelson@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Shannon Nelson) Subject: Re: Help with Kaypro terminal emulation Message-ID: <1991Mar22.214915.17774@intelhf.hf.intel.com> In article <1991Mar22.182503.201@simasd.uucp> donm@pnet07.cts.com (Don Maslin) writes: >To my knowledge, all of the public domain communication packages use overlays >to tailor them to a particular computer. Therefore, if your MDM730, or >whatever, runs on your KP-10 there is a very high probability that it has the >Kaypro's ADM-3 emulation built in. > The Kaypro uses a superset of the adm3a terminal commands. The kp enhancements make it much easier to live with, as the adm3a is rather simple minded. To help a little, here's the kaypro termcap file that I've been using for several years. Converting it to terminfo is easy enough with captoinfo. ky|kaypro:am:cr=^M:do=^J:nl=^J:bl=^G:\ :le=^H:bs:cm=\E=%+ %+ :cl=1^Z:co#80:ho=^^:li#24:ma=^K^P:nd=^L:up=^K:\ :dl=\ER:al=\EE:\ :kd=^J:ku=^K:kl=^H:kr=^L:\ :ce=^X:cd=^W:\ :dC=3:dT=3: -- ============================================================================== Shannon Nelson Portland Technology Development, Intel snelson@ptd.intel.com (503) 642-8149 I don't speak for Intel Parents can't afford to be squeemish. ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V91 Issue #62 ************************************ 24-Mar-91 17:26:33-MST,13991;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Sun, 24 Mar 91 17:15:07 MST From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V91 #63 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Message-ID: <910324171509.V91N63@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> INFO-CPM Digest Sun, 24 Mar 91 Volume 91 : Issue 63 Today's Topics: Osborne Executive printing problems Re: 8080 macro cross-assembler to run under unix Re: About Amstrad' Bios bug | Re: Flame returned (was Re: VT100KAY.LBR problems) Re: Kaypro TurboROM Re: Z8001 and C900... Wanted: CPM for Imsai 8080 w/Imsai floppy disk drive ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 23 Mar 91 13:38:55 GMT From: zephyr.ens.tek.com!tektronix!reed!campbell@beaver.cs.washington.edu (Chris Campbell) Subject: Osborne Executive printing problems Message-ID: <16243@reed.UUCP> I've been having a major problem with my Osborne Executive since I acquired it about three years ago. I had been able to work around it for awhile, but about two weeks ago said problem became very pesky, and the other people using the machine haven't been able to work around it since then. (I've been separated from the machine by an ocean and one and a half continents for about two months.) The problem is this: printing. The Executive (ROM 1.21, BIOS 1.2 Enhanced) had never properly loaded the printer information on boot-up from SETUP.COM. Specifically, what was connected to the CENTRONICS port: no matter how it was permanently saved, it would respond NONE when I asked to see what the settings were in memory. (When I asked it to show the settings from drive A, it would invariably inform me that the printer was connected and was presumably ready.) As a result, whenever I wanted to print, I would have to exit the program (usually WS), load SETUP, load the information from the drive into memory, exit SETUP, reload the other program, and print. This would work for as long as I did not reset or shut down the computer. This worked for quite a while, and wouldn't waste much time. However, this doesn't work anymore. Now, after twiddling with SETUP so that it recognizes the printer, the Executive will refuse to load any other program, and will crash violently. (This problem began with PrintMaster (which could be worked around) but spread to WordStar (fatal).) I've tried to fix the original problem many times, playing with SETUP, alt- ernating BIOS versions (despite the other printing problems, such as the notorious "Unassign this device?"), and am now at wit's end. Any suggestions? Chris Campbell campbell@reed.bitnet campbell@reed.edu ------------------------------ Date: 22 Mar 91 22:14:32 GMT From: agate!bionet!uwm.edu!spool.mu.edu!news.nd.edu!mentor.cc.purdue.edu!descartes.math.purdue.edu!wilker@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Clarence Wilkerson) Subject: Re: 8080 macro cross-assembler to run under unix Message-ID: <8555@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> I think you can get zmac on simtel20 under unix-c. It's not same syntax as Microsoft M80, or DRI MAC. There was an 8080 macro assembler written in small-c by Hendriks ???? called SMAC or some such, that was m80 compatible and produced relocatable code. As far as I know, zmac only produced hex and binary. If you're not committed to emulating some particular cp/m assembler, the macros can be done under unix with cpp or m4, so the essential piece is the assembler itself. Yet another suggestion is to run a CP/M emulation under unix. You lose a lot of CPU speed, but for assemblies the diskio may dominate anyway. To see how this works, rlogin in as "cpm" at hopf.purdue.edu. This kicks you into a cp/m 2.2 emulation program. Change to drive B: and run "mac bios " to get an idea of how fast the emulation is for your purpose. Clarence Wilkerson . ------------------------------ Date: 24 Mar 91 19:11:04 GMT From: comp.vuw.ac.nz!actrix!ewen@uunet.uu.net (Ewen McNeill) Subject: Re: About Amstrad' Bios bug | Message-ID: <1991Mar24.191104.4553@actrix.gen.nz> In article <9103220804.AA26926@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> MONTARON@FRP8V11.BITNET (Alexandre Montaron) writes: > Hello| I'm happy (in fact no) that someone else has found the bug... > which replace a good sector (a CPM's block of 128 bytes) by anything else... > But if you typed ^C (equal to Bdos fnct number 13) it will work perfectly| Oh, no, it is not just anything else. It is always the same. I had a 360K file which I was reading through after putting it through a naughty program (text file, BTW). There were 15 problems in it (15/2000 or so is not too bad, but not too good). Everytime there was the same string. Always. This has happened in the past. The string includes some NULLs (0), as well, but basically starts like this "s^L^s|FF|FFx@ff I thought it is because of my ram-disk (DK'tronics 256Ko)... because one of > my friend has a CPC w/o ram-disk and all work well This is interesting. I haven't been able to test it without the ram disk, because I have had the software installed for ages (and it is hard to test for something which is intermittent). At one stage I did think that it was something to do with the patch put on for the ram disk, and I started disassembling that. I ran out of time (near end of year, and I am a student....:-( It looks as though I should go back to this. Thought -- how old is your CPC? Mine is a model A. I wonder if this has anything to do with the problem (ie, a bug fix in later versions?). > I've a clue about the bug > There's at all 32Ko of buffer (as tou can call cache disk|) located on bank > number 2 if i remember well. If the patch of the ram-disk alter this area it > will bug when CPM attempt to save this block (perhaps it's the patch itself|) > Because ^C flush (but not save) all buffer to disk... This sounds like what I was thiking of, although I hadn't got as far as exploring the buffering. If you are able to do what you are suggest please do so. For my part, I will continue my disassembly of the patch. dk'tronics are too far gone to be able to fight about the reverse engineering, or help with a bug fix. > I've the OPERATOR's AND PROGRAMMER's GUIDE for the AMSTRAD CPC6128 & PCW8256 > by Digital Research Inc. & Amstrad Consumer Electronics plc... it's a very > good book but it doesn't talk about the BIOS... and BCB (buffers) are manage > by the BIOS (see also DPH=Disk Parameter Header... which contain a pointer to > the first BCB...) I've an other book which talk about the BIOS but it's very > short | Indeed it is sad. What do you have which talks about the BIOS? We really need something which talks about the Amstrad BIOS, or better still a disassembly. I will ask someone who does a lot of CP/M programming here if they have any good books. Anyway, I am pleased to see that I am not alone. This also tends to suggest to me that I was on the right track disassembling the patch for the silicon disk. If I can only find the disk it was on (1 of about 200....) I will go back to it. BTW, are there any other Amstrad CPC owners out there with this problem? -- Ewen McNeill. Email: ewen@actrix.gen.nz ------------------------------ Date: 23 Mar 91 00:55:31 GMT From: eru!hagbard!sunic!mcsun!ukc!axion!tharr!nowster!pm@bloom-beacon.mit.edu (Paul Martin) Subject: Re: Flame returned (was Re: VT100KAY.LBR problems) Message-ID: Ewen McNeill (ewen@actrix.gen.nz) wrote these words: > And YOU don't really know what you are talking about. I have had the > same problems as Klaus has had -- I also own a CPC6128. The problem he > describes is exactly true, for the CPC6128. There is a bug (somewhere) > in the Bios. I am going to have to go reverse-engineering it (there is > no Bios source available to my knowledge). Are you sure you are running the CPM+ supplied with your 6128? > For instance, unzip (David Goodenough) doesn't work too well on the Amstrad > drives for some reason. It works fine off my Ram disk (the patch for > which appears to have been made (autoinstall program) at a higher level > than the bug) however. [BTW, this is nothing against David's program -- > it SHOULD work perfectly on the Amstrad, and does on other systems] Voila! Non-standard system. I have an Amstrad CPC 464 with 512K banked RAM, and the 6128 ROM. I have used David Goodenough's UNZIP program every day for the last 9 months without a single problem, even with 200K ZIP files. I have just tried UCRLZH11 on a ?Q?, a ?Z? and a ?Y? file with no problems. May I hazard a guess that you're running ZCPR or similar, or something else non-standard? -- Paul Martin ..!uunet!tharr!pm.nowster | CP/M systems never die - they pm.nowster@tharr.uucp (pm111@tharr.uucp) | just get more BIOSed with age. <-- tharr *free* public access to Usenet in the UK --> ------------------------------ Date: 24 Mar 91 00:28:43 GMT From: csusac!sactoh0!ijpc!ianj@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu (Ian Justman) Subject: Re: Kaypro TurboROM Message-ID: roadhog@austex (Lindsay Haisley) writes: > I have previously posted to this newsgroup the information that the TurboROM > for the Kaypro CP/M computers is available from Jay Sage (Sage Microsystems > East). This is incorrect. Jay Sage does NOT sell the TurboROM. TThe > Advent TurboROM for the Kaypros is available from Charles B. Stafford, 4000 > Norris Ave., Sacramento, CA 95812, phone 916-483-0312. He has bought out > the stock from the now defunct Advent Corp. and is marketing it from his > home. He has a variety of items from Advent's old line, including the > WD-1002 controllers, decoder boards, etc. > > > "Everything works if you let it!" > --- Travis J. Redfish > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > uucp: austex!roadhog@emx.utexas.edu > BBS: 512-259-1261 (Znode 77 - aka - Kaypro Club of Austin) Hi, Lindsay! Just thought I'd interject this; I know Chuck myself, and if you want to send a message to him (he is presently not on the net), send it to me and I will see to it that he gets it. He and I are members of the local Kaypro group. BTW, just wondering, Lindsay, do you have NovaDOS Release J ready yet? ------------------------------ Date: 23 Mar 91 18:14:41 GMT From: casbah.acns.nwu.edu!nucsrl!tellab5!laidbak!amiganet!austral!rrezaian@ucsd.edu (Russell Rezaian) Subject: Re: Z8001 and C900... Message-ID: In article ianj@ijpc.UUCP (Ian Justman) writes: >MONTARON@FRP8V11.BITNET (Alexandre Montaron) writes: >> Other thing... I perhaps will bought a prototype Unix machine made by >> COMMODORE... His name is C900, it works with a Z8001 (i suppose you know >> it?), it has a HD 20Mo, one floppy 5"1/4, 512Ko de RAM... OS: Unix Beta0.9 >> this is also four RS232C, a monochrome terminal... >> The price is 3000Fr so about $600 ... >> Doesany one ever heard of this machine... i'll ask in the COMMODORE group | >> Bye| Alexandre Montaron > >Gads, you have me salivating!!!!! I know this part of the >message belongs elsewhere, but I thought I'd ask this: Will it >be available in the US? If so, that could finally put purely >UNIX machines in the hands of commoners. Then I could gloat as >my pro-MESSY-DOS friends are dumbfounded of what it could do. Yes this is wrong place, but the thread has already started. The C900 seems to be one of many Commodore European orphan machines, if you are interested in UNIX then look to the Amiga 3000 UX, this machine is based off of the Amiga 3000 68030 platform, is already in final beta stages, and is the first machine out there to run UNIX SV r4. Drool drool drool!!! I have talked with a Commodore rep and supposedly it will sell with the entire UNIX package, X.11 and I think it was open look, NFS(TCP/IP), an ethernet board, a 200 meg hard drive and either 6 or 8 megs of ram for well under 10,000. The system also will support the 24bit color card that is coming out soon... By the way, it will also turn into an Amiga 3000 with just a slightly different boot up procedure (you use the mouse to pull up a boot menu and click on Amiga or UNIX for what you want). This isn't a chep machine, but it is a nice looking low end workstation, and it blows away anything I have seen in the Mac arena... -- +-------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ | Russell Rezaian | amiganet.chi.il.us!austral!rrezaian | | P.O. Box 479 | | | Naperville, Il. 60566-0479 | "One is best punished for one's | | USA | Virtues." Nietzsche. | +-------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ Date: 23 Mar 91 19:57:21 GMT From: littlei!intelhf!agora!batie@uunet.uu.net (Alan Batie) Subject: Wanted: CPM for Imsai 8080 w/Imsai floppy disk drive Message-ID: <1991Mar23.195721.11948@agora.rain.com> I managed to pick up an Imsai, and would like to do *something* with it. So, does anyone know where I can get CPM for it? -- Alan Batie Some people believe they have batie@agora.rain.com never met a gay person. +1 503 640-4013 That's what we get for hiding. ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V91 Issue #63 ************************************ 27-Mar-91 22:07:12-MST,9316;000000000000 Mail-From: W8SDZ created at 27-Mar-91 21:58:14 Return-Path: Date: Wed, 27 Mar 91 21:58:13 MST From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V91 #64 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Message-ID: <910327215814.V91N64@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> INFO-CPM Digest Wed, 27 Mar 91 Volume 91 : Issue 64 Today's Topics: Adding a hard disk to an O1 - How to? Amstrad BIOS problems -- Moderately Long Epson Geneva Quantum Hard Drive Re: Flame returned (was Re: VT100KAY.LBR problems) VT180 bios information needed ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 25 Mar 91 20:42:24 GMT From: llnl.gov!fitzgerald3@lll-winken.llnl.gov (Kirk Fitzgerald) Subject: Adding a hard disk to an O1 - How to? Message-ID: <93918@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV> I have an Osborne 1 at home that I would use if I had a hard disk. Any suggestions or ideas? Kirk Have Fun!!! ------------------------------ Date: 27 Mar 91 09:47:31 GMT From: usc!wuarchive!waikato.ac.nz!comp.vuw.ac.nz!actrix!ewen@apple.com (Ewen McNeill) Subject: Amstrad BIOS problems -- Moderately Long Message-ID: <1991Mar27.094731.17147@actrix.gen.nz> [To those who are not interested in the nitty gritty of a fairly annoying bug in a patch to the Amstrad Bios, please skip this message now. Anyone else, feedback is very welcome to ewen@actrix.gen.nz, or to this group] After seeing various peoples thoughts about what the problem with the Amstrad BIOS which causes certain programs not to work properly, I did some experimenting with my Amstrad. The hardware concerned was an Amstrad CPC6128, with serial interface, 512K of extra ram. For the entire of the test, I used David Goodenough's unzip program (wonderful program, despite the problems that Amstrad has), and a 20K Zip file which I picked up somewhere. The first thing I tried was removing all my extra hardware, and using the original boot disk. Unzip from A to B drive, worked fine. The next thing was to reintroduce the hardware. The Unzip still worked fine. I then went back to my normal boot disk (with silicon disk patch), and tried the same thing. It worked fine. Then I started experimenting with variouus combinations of drives, and came up with the following results: ZIP file Output file Error? A A No. A B No. B B No. B A No. C C No. C B No. C A No. A C Yes. B C Yes. These results did not change with various pieces of hardware plugged in, or various patched versions of the CP/M Plus file. Obviously the C drive doesn't exist under unpatched versions, so that couldn't be tested. However, this does rule out one possibility, of the patched mentioned in the Serial Interface "Book of Spells" (for the uninitiated, this book has a picture of a wizard on every page... talk about annoying!). I have tried this patch, and it didn't help. I have also tried the patch for double sided drives (I have one), and it didn't help either. Because of the way that unzip works (decompresses to default drive), decompressing to C drive required a command sequence like: A>c: C>a:unzip a:zipfile.zip e This means that C drive is the current drive. This seemed to be the only time when the bug showed up. I am not sure whether this bug applies to writing, or not, I suspect that it doesn't. [Other evidence supports this, see below] This leads me to the following conclusion: There is a bug in the patch for the silicon disk which causes problems when the silicion disk is the current one, and one of the other drives is read from. This bug is an occassional one, which appears apparently at random. This suggest something like interupts being enabled at the wrong time, or whatever. BTW, every time I have had a failure in this manner (a "faulty" block in a file), I have been logged into C drive (I usually do -- it is a good temporary drive), and reading from a floppy drive (usually B). This tends to confirm my research of today. I am continuing my disassembly of the PATCHER.COM program. I have sorted out most of the program which does the actual patching, but sorting out the bits that are patched over is more of a problem. I am using DazzleStar (my first time, it looks good) to do the disassembly, and it allows me to declare various bits as instructions, bytes, words etc. Very powerful. If anyone wants a copy of the DazzleStar temporary file (which will allow you to look through PATCHER.COM too), let me know. I would appreciate someone else trying to duplicate my results. This may well explain why one poster didn't have any problems, and others of us have. In the mean time, I would advise unzipping either from the floppy drives to the floppy drives, or totally in the ram drive. For your reference, other programs which are affected by this bug: ZDE, Nsweep (only on certain sized files), LT29, FCRLZH, NULU. There are probably plenty more, but those are the ones that I have run across so far. Any suggestions accepted by Email, or to this group. -- Ewen McNeill. Email: ewen@actrix.gen.nz ------------------------------ Date: 26 Mar 91 18:38:55 GMT From: sun-barr!cs.utexas.edu!ut-emx!ccwf.cc.utexas.edu!wdlee@apple.com (david lee) Subject: Epson Geneva Message-ID: <46201@ut-emx.uucp> Anyone know where I might find an Epson Geneva laptop. It's a cute portable CPM machine. Thanks, David ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1991 12:00:17 PST From: Sprague.Wbst311@xerox.com Subject: Quantum Hard Drive Message-ID: <"25-Mar-91 15:00:17 EST".*.Michael_D._Sprague.wbst311@Xerox.com> I have come up with two Quantum Q2080 8" hard drives. Can anybody tell me anything about them? Are they more or less the same as the Shugart SA1004? One thing that IS different is that there does not seem to be an AC power connector for the drive. There is just what looks like the standard six pin DC power connector. ~ Mike (Sprague.Wbst311@Xerox.Com) ------------------------------ Date: 25 Mar 91 18:25:50 GMT From: comp.vuw.ac.nz!actrix!ewen@uunet.uu.net (Ewen McNeill) Subject: Re: Flame returned (was Re: VT100KAY.LBR problems) Message-ID: <1991Mar25.182550.10585@actrix.gen.nz> In article pm.nowster@tharr.uucp (Paul Martin) writes: > Ewen McNeill (ewen@actrix.gen.nz) wrote these words: > > [About certain programs not working too well for some reason on a > > Amstrad CPC6128 running CP/M+] > > Voila! Non-standard system. I have an Amstrad CPC 464 with 512K > banked RAM, and the 6128 ROM. I have used David Goodenough's > UNZIP program every day for the last 9 months without a single > problem, even with 200K ZIP files. This is depressing. Although it doesn't prove anything. However, it does sound as though there is something special about your banked ram, or something. Do you unzip things off the ram drive (I would do this anyway because it is faster -- I only discovered the problem when I had a small ram drive (one bank, instead of the usual two))? This has no problems. It is only off the floppy disks, and it needs to be a pretty big file (in another post I mentioned it happening in 15 128-byte blocks out of about 2000 in a file) for the "random" chance to happen. > May I hazard a guess that you're running ZCPR or similar, or > something else non-standard? I am running CP/M+, as supplied, with a serial interface (no special patch), and a ram disk (and the patch for it). The ram disk consists of both banks of ram, although I have had the same problem with just one bank plugged in. I think I may even have had problems without any ram plugged in, but the patch installed. The serial interface is a possibility, I guess -- who else of those with problems has a serial interface attached to their system? This does make me think of the ram patch as being the problem, so I have started to disassemble it again. If anyone is interested in helping work on this, you will need a copy of PATCHER.COM (out of the ram disk rom), and a copy of DazzleStar. I will send a copy of the DazzleStar temporary file, which defines the symbols, etc. Anyway, it is amazing how many Amstrad users there are out there. Three of us have had problems, and one hasn't. There seems to be little difference between the setups. We have, however, learnt that there is no problem with using the ram drive, but there appears to be with using the floppy drives. On a random basis. Does anyone know different? -- Ewen McNeill. Email: ewen@actrix.gen.nz ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Mar 91 12:36 EDT From: Brainwave Surfer Subject: VT180 bios information needed Guys, i need either: information, bios listing, bios source, or where to go for the bios for a Digital VT180 Robin... Jim agnew@RUBY.VCU.EDT (EDU, NOT EDT) ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V91 Issue #64 ************************************ 29-Mar-91 09:26:20-MST,8529;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Fri, 29 Mar 91 09:17:35 MST From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V91 #65 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Message-ID: <910329091740.V91N65@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> INFO-CPM Digest Fri, 29 Mar 91 Volume 91 : Issue 65 Today's Topics: Comms program for Televideo Portable TPC1 com program needed Help: Documentation, information, et cetera. Re: com program needed Re: Help: Documentation, information, et cetera. SCSI-driver for 5380/8490-SCSI-Chip UUCP for cpm or whereabouts of Dave Goodenough Want to swap 5 inch to 8 inch floppy ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 28 Mar 91 09:40:24 GMT From: elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!sdd.hp.com!spool.mu.edu!munnari.oz.au!mullauna!mikec@lll-winken.llnl.gov (Michael CIAVARELLA) Subject: Comms program for Televideo Portable TPC1 Message-ID: Hi * Does anyone out there know of or have a comms program to suit a televideo TPC1 portable? Its a Z80 based CP/M machine, running (I think) CP/M 2.2. Is there an ftp site availbe which has something along these lines? Thanks, Mike ------------------------------ Date: 27 Mar 91 04:14:00 GMT From: sgi!cdp!mcaldon@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU Subject: com program needed Message-ID: <1099600001@cdp> Does anyone know where I can lay my hands on a communications program that will transmit and receive CP/M files? mcaldon, EcoNet. ------------------------------ Date: 27 Mar 91 18:43:14 GMT From: casbah.acns.nwu.edu!nucsrl!tellab5!laidbak!amiganet!austral!rrezaian@ucsd.edu (Russell Rezaian) Subject: Help: Documentation, information, et cetera. Message-ID: I have a few machines made by a company called OSM, located in CA. The machines are ZEuS 3s and a ZEuS 4, these are multi user CP/M systems. They will support most of the MP/M calls, and will even allows background precesses, but work using mutliple CPUs in a networked configuration. The master provides file system services, print spooling and a few other neat features. I am very fond of these computers, but I have a few problems with the ZEuS 3s. The copy of the os (M.U.S.E.) I have for them only supports 306 cyl 6 head 15meg hard drives, these are impossable to find. Further the systems are now starting to get flaky on boot. One will only boot if an 8 inch floppy is attached, the other (The one I had all my imporatant data on) refuses to boot at all now... If anyone out there has ever heard of these machines, PLEASE mail me, if anyone has any information on what happened to the company, or any people who were involved with it PLEASE mail me. I am lloking for newer versions of the OS (I have 4.1 for the 3s and 4.7 or 8 for the 4) or at least versions of the sysgen that will support other hard drives. If anyone has schematics, or patch information for the BIOS, again I would be most thankful... I am looking for anything I can find. These are really nice machines, I want to be able to keep using them if at all possible. Any help would be wonderful! Thanks. -- +-------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ | Russell Rezaian | amiganet.chi.il.us!austral!rrezaian | | P.O. Box 479 | | | Naperville, Il. 60566-0479 | "One is best punished for one's | | USA | Virtues." Nietzsche. | +-------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ Date: 28 Mar 91 21:45:04 GMT From: baron!baron!pnet07!donm@nosc.mil (Don Maslin) Subject: Re: com program needed Message-ID: <1991Mar28.214504.21008@simasd.uucp> mcaldon@cdp.UUCP writes: > > >Does anyone know where I can lay my hands on a communications program >that will transmit and receive CP/M files? mcaldon, EcoNet. > > For what machine? Keeper of the CP/M System Disk | UUCP: {nosc ucsd crash ncr-sd}!pnet07!donm Archives for the Dino(saur)SIG | ARPA: simasd!pnet07!donm@nosc.mil - San Diego Computer Society - | INET: donm@pnet07.cts.com ------------------------------ Date: 29 Mar 91 15:06:55 GMT From: zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!samsung!noose.ecn.purdue.edu!mentor.cc.purdue.edu!gauss.math.purdue.edu!wilker@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu (Clarence Wilkerson) Subject: Re: Help: Documentation, information, et cetera. Message-ID: <9046@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> Sorry, no experience with Zeus MP/M type stuff. However, on the subject of disk drives, any St-506 innerface drives I've used will cheerfully allow you to use them at less than full capacity. So if the number of logical heads is less than or equal to number of physical head, and same for cylinders, almost any other drive should replace the ones you have. For example, Seagate ST251 's have 6 heads, and 820?? cylinders, and are going new for about $250. Unfortunately, the cheaper bargain drives such as ST225 only have four heads and would not plug right in. If the drive controller is SCSI, then the operating system may think it reading a certain track and sector, but actually eventually asks for an absolute sector number, so if the scsi controller has set the correct parameters the operating system would not know what it has physically. Poke around under the hood and see what kind of hard disk controller is there? Clarence ------------------------------ Date: 28 Mar 91 16:58:06 GMT From: mcsun!cernvax!chx400!chx400!bernina!neptune!iiic.ethz.ch!probst@uunet.uu.net (Probst) Subject: SCSI-driver for 5380/8490-SCSI-Chip Message-ID: <27774@neptune.inf.ethz.ch> Did someone already write SW for the National Semiconductor SCSI Chip DP8490 or the NCR5380-SCSI-Chip? I've got a Seagate ST1096 Harddisk which I'd like to connect to my homebrew Z180-Computer and I don't want to reenvent the reel. I'm looking for the low-level-SW dealing with the SCSI-Chip, the connecting to the disk etc. The BIOS is then no problem, once I've got this SW. I'd be very glad if someone could help me! :-) Thanks in advance, Urs Probst, probst@iiic.ethz.ch, Zurich, Switzerland. ------------------------------ Date: 29 Mar 91 03:08:56 GMT From: synchrods.com!daniel@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Daniel Senderowicz) Subject: UUCP for cpm or whereabouts of Dave Goodenough Message-ID: <9103290308.AA09992@synchrods.synchrods.com> I was wondering if anybody knows where can I get the latest version of uucp for the KayproII. Furthermore I haven't heard of Dave Goodenough since he moved to the west, did he make it or he is still walking? Thanks, Dan. ------------------------------ Date: 28 Mar 91 20:50:36 GMT From: swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!caen!umich!terminator!pisa.citi.umich.edu!rees@ucsd.edu (Jim Rees) Subject: Want to swap 5 inch to 8 inch floppy Message-ID: <50a3eb06.1bc5b@pisa.citi.umich.edu> This has nothing to do with CPM, but I understand you guys are the experts on floppy drives. I've got a computer (Apollo dn330) that has an 8 inch floppy drive that I want to change to a 5 inch. The 8 inch has a capacity of 1.2 Mb, something like a st506 interface (sa850?), and a 50 pin card-edge connector. I've got pinouts for the 50-pin and also for the 34-pin connector used by the 5 inch drives. I'm told that the rotational speed is the same, and I know the sector layout is the same, so I'm assuming that bit rates and signal timings will just fall out for free. 1. Will this work? 2. Is there any chance this will just plug-n-play, or will I have to muck around with the device driver in the OS? 3. What do I do with pin 2 (density) on the 34-pin? I assume tie it high or low -- which is it? 4. What about pin 16, motor-on? Should I tie this high or low, or tie it to pin 4, head-load? 5. What is pin 2 on the 50-pin, RWC? What should I do with it? 6. Any tips on shopping for a 5 inch drive? Will any drive with the 34-pin (sa450?) connector work, as long as it's a 1.2 Meg drive? How much should a floppy cost? The local repair shop has one for US $60, is that OK? ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V91 Issue #65 ************************************ 30-Mar-91 15:27:17-MST,10303;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Sat, 30 Mar 91 15:15:26 MST From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V91 #66 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Message-ID: <910330151527.V91N66@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> INFO-CPM Digest Sat, 30 Mar 91 Volume 91 : Issue 66 Today's Topics: CP/M Sector Interleave Finding System Software. NEC APC need info on OSM Computer Corp. machine Re: CP/M Sector Interleave Re: INFO-CPM Digest V91 #61 (2 msgs) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 29 Mar 91 15:56:04 GMT From: agate!bionet!uwm.edu!cs.utexas.edu!ut-emx!austex!roadhog@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Lindsay Haisley) Subject: CP/M Sector Interleave Message-ID: <6FVkZ1w163w@austex> Can anyone suggest a method or program to me by which I might optimize the sector interleave on a hard drive on a CP/M machine? I have recently installed a Seagate ST-125 (20 meg) hd in my Kaypro 10 and although the drive is speedy, the system seems to run quite sluggishly. The format program (ADVFMT.COM) allows a choice of interleaves, however I'm reluctant to back off and reformat the drive (a job of several hours) until I know the correct value. I would also appreciate help from anyone who can give me precice definitions of the terms skew and interleave. I was under the impression that these terms were the same, referring to the physical spacing between succcessive logical sectors needed to optimize access times, however some of my recent reading has led me to believe that these terms are not interchangable. "Everything works if you let it!" --- Travis J. Redfish ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ uucp: austex!roadhog@emx.utexas.edu BBS: 512-259-1261 (Znode 77 - aka - Kaypro Club of Austin) ------------------------------ Date: 29 Mar 91 21:12:48 GMT From: swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!caen!uflorida!mlb.semi.harris.com!solman.mlb.semi.harris.com!bie@ucsd.edu (Ben Eaton) Subject: Finding System Software. Message-ID: <1991Mar29.211248.16118@mlb.semi.harris.com> Hello! I have come across a "ZORBA" portable computer, that is in good working order but there is no systems disk to go with the unit. I know the following things about this unit: - It was manufactured by: GEMINI ELECTRONICS 130 Baywood Ave. Longwood, FL 32750 - It is a Z80 based machine. - It has two 784K TELCOM 5.24" disk drives. - It uses a CPM operating system. If anyone out there knows where I can aquire a systems disk ( I am willing to pay for it ) or knows how I could reconstruct a systems disk I would like to here from you. Ben I. Eaton (407) 727-0255 P.S. I have already call the manufacturer and they were no help at all. ------------------------------ Date: 29 Mar 91 03:08:59 GMT From: swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!samsung!munnari.oz.au!bruce!labtam!eyrie!niki@ucsd.edu (Nicole Angst) Subject: NEC APC Message-ID: <10075@eyrie.img.uu.oz.au> I have an OLD NEC APC(the original APC), on eof the dual MS-DOS / CPM machines and am looking for some software for it. My manuals include a manual for the extended graphics libraries under MS-DOS but I dont have these libraries and NEC Australia have been less than helpful. I am interested in any other software for this beast and have some user group software and a small C compiler under CPM and a full set of manuals (including hardware!) if any one is interested. niki niki@img.uu.oz.au OR s880721@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au ------------------------------ Date: 29 Mar 91 22:14:13 GMT From: prism!wayward!harold@gatech.edu (Harold C. Forbes) Subject: need info on OSM Computer Corp. machine Message-ID: <25251@hydra.gatech.EDU> Someone gave me a couple of OSM machines with no documentation. If I can find out something about them I would rather use them than break them up for parts. I have a Kaypro 10 so I'm not a novice at CPM, but I'm not up to re-writing a BIOS either. When it boots, I get the following message on one of the ports. If I ^C after it says running, I can do CPM type stuff, like the dir listing following. The floppy seems to be P:, but I can't read the floppy I found in the machine. I think it was origonally used for accounting stuff. I don't know if it was a turn-key system or what. Thanks for any info. harold O S M Computer Corporation Multi-User System Release version 4.75/5.05 09/24/84 Copyright (c) OSM Computer Corporation 1982,1983,1984 Single 12mb, 96tpi floppy MUSE-8/16 Ver 04.78 Initialization sequence... running.... A>dir A: XTALK COM : DDT COM : ALLOCHK COM : TERMCAP SYS A: Z4SY5H01 COM : Z4SY5F01 COM : WSX COM : PRINT COM A: Z4S5H07R COM : BADBLK2 COM : WHO COM : FLBACKUP COM A: EDIT HLP : +XSUB DRV : Z4SY5F03 COM : HRESTORE COM A: HELP COM : LOGON COM : HELP IDX : MEMTEST COM A: MAIL COM : Z4MUSE SYM : NEWDISK COM : STAT COM A: COPY COM : MAIL COM : REHASH COM : TYPE COM A: SETPASSW COM : Z4FMTFL COM : TELECOM SYS : FLARCHIV COM A: +XSUB COM : +SPOOL COM : CHECKSUM DOC : HSHDIR COM A: FLOPPY COM : SETMODE COM : RSPLOAD COM : Z4MUSE/U SYS A: BADBLK1 COM : CSMASK MSK : CS COM : LOAD COM A: CLACRS DAT : CHECKSUM COM : ASM COM : DUMP COM A: EDIT COM : FILES COM : HBUILDER COM : TOFILES A: HELP TXT : PRLTRANS COM : SUBMIT COM : REHASH COM A: TIME COM : TELECOM COM : WDFORMAT COM : Z4SY5H03 COM A: Z4MUSE COM : TOINDEX AGE : CLLCF DAT : WSMSGS OVR A: WSOVLY1 OVR : SPELSTAR OVR : MAILMRGE OVR : CS OV2 A: CS OVR : CSDUMP OVR : INSTCS OVR : BALSHEET CSD A: DEMO CSD : HELP1 CSD : HELPER CSD : INSTCS DAT A: MIKSB200 DAT : CLLTR DAT : CLSYS DAT : SPELSTAR DCT A: SAMPLE TXT : CLS COM : SHUTDOWN COM : WINSTALL COM A: WS COM : CS OV1 : CSDUMP COM : INSTCS COM A: MBASIC COM : Z4S5F07R COM : TOMASTER AGE : 3TOLIST AGE A: 6TOLIST AGE : TO000 OVL : TO100 OVL : TO200 OVL A: TO300 OVL : TO400 OVL : TO900 OVL : TO COM A: CRTCONF COM : APTTEST CSD : SWE FAN : CLLCF BAK A: COPY COM A>dir b: B: Z4S5F07R COM : Z4MUSE SYM : Z4MUSE/U SYS : Z4MUSE COM B: Z4S5H07R COM : NEWDISK COM : COPY COM : WDFORMAT COM B: HSHDIR COM : LOGON COM : CLS COM : CLSYS DAT B: CLLTR DAT : CL COM FORBES, HAROLD C. N5JCM Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332 uucp: ...!{allegra,amd,hplabs,seismo,ut-ngp}!gatech!cc!harold ARPA: harold@cc.gatech.edu FORBES, HAROLD C. N5JCM Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332 uucp: ...!{allegra,amd,hplabs,seismo,ut-ngp}!gatech!cc!harold ARPA: harold@cc.gatech.edu ------------------------------ Date: 30 Mar 91 19:45:03 GMT From: baron!baron!pnet07!donm@nosc.mil (Don Maslin) Subject: Re: CP/M Sector Interleave Message-ID: <1991Mar30.194503.25246@simasd.uucp> roadhog@austex (Lindsay Haisley) writes: >I would also appreciate help from anyone who can give me precice definitions >of the terms skew and interleave. I was under the impression that these >terms were the same, referring to the physical spacing between succcessive >logical sectors needed to optimize access times, however some of my recent >reading has led me to believe that these terms are not interchangable. > It is my understanding that proper usage speaks to interleave on a disk surface, and skew speaks to the positional relationship of corresponding sectors on different surfaces. That is, interleave is intended to allow for processing time that the controller needs after reading one sector and before reading the next. Skew, somewhat similarly, is intended to account for the processing time that the controller needs when switching read heads. Keeper of the CP/M System Disk | UUCP: {nosc ucsd crash ncr-sd}!pnet07!donm Archives for the Dino(saur)SIG | ARPA: simasd!pnet07!donm@nosc.mil - San Diego Computer Society - | INET: donm@pnet07.cts.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Mar 91 18:47:36 EDT From: Alexandre Montaron Subject: Re: INFO-CPM Digest V91 #61 Hello| Someone is talking about a CP/M emulator on Unix system ??? So, the Unix system that i'll bought is based on a Z8000 perhaps is it possible to make a more efficient emulation because only op_codes changes (number not mnemonic)... The Z8000 has sixteen 16bits register and the Z80 much less... Is someone interresting by this ? Also, i can write a translater program which translat Z80 to Z8000 assembly language... Like Z80/8080 to 8086 when new 16bits intel micro-processor appear in 1981,2 ? Does some have a such program (Z80 to 8086) ? Is there a Zilog micro-processor list ??? Can i talk about Z8000 here? Where? Thanks for all... Alexandre Montaron ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Mar 91 19:00:34 EDT From: Alexandre Montaron Subject: Re: INFO-CPM Digest V91 #61 i've forget about the C900/Z8000/Unix machine... To Ian Justman... It's a PROTOTYPE| so you can't find it in France nor in US nor anywhere... Sorry... But the Unix release is a beta release 0.9 so there will be a lot of bugs i'm sure (but in Z8000 there will be no probleme...) Do you want to came in France to see it :-) Alexandre Montaron ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V91 Issue #66 ************************************