4-Oct-92 18:48:55-MDT,8544;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Sun, 4 Oct 92 18:45:37 MDT From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V92 #105 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Message-ID: <921004184538.V92N105@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> INFO-CPM Digest Sun, 4 Oct 92 Volume 92 : Issue 105 Today's Topics: CP/M data transfer to DOS Kaypro 4 Master Disks Needed MSX terminal/communications prog. needed Re: access with Kaypro IV (2 msgs) Re: Take my computers please - Free. Re: WordStar 4.0 Re: z80 assembler suggestions desired Transfer cp/m files to elsewhere WordStar 4.0 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 1 Oct 92 19:33:23 GMT From: wupost!tulane!rouge!aww7112@decwrl.dec.com (Wiltz Anthony W) Subject: CP/M data transfer to DOS Message-ID: <1992Oct1.193323.15433@usl.edu> I am in search for the easiest method to transfer data from a Xerox 820-II PC using CP/M version 2.2 operating system to a MS-DOS machine. The Xerox machine has only two 8inch Drives with a COMM. and Printer port. I looked into the PIP.COM command, but not too sure that it will solve the problem. After talking with a few people they directed me to XMODEM, which was in use in the days of CP/M to transfer data between machines (CP/M machines I presume). I would need the version of XMODEM which coincides with the CP/M era. Thanks in advance for any information submitted. Wayne e-mail: aww7112@usl.edu ------------------------------ Date: 4 Oct 92 21:26:08 GMT From: sdd.hp.com!news.cs.indiana.edu!noose.ecn.purdue.edu!news@hplabs.hpl.hp.com (Keith A Harber) Subject: Kaypro 4 Master Disks Needed Message-ID: <1992Oct4.212608.11506@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> Hi, I have a Kaypro 4 portable computer, and I need the Master diskettes for it. I have the master diskettes for a Kaypro II, which I can use to boot it, but I seem to have trouble with disk manipulations, and I think it's because the II masters are SSDD disks, while the drives (I believe) are DSDD. In any case, I'd like to have a set of master diskettes that are DSDD, because if my drive is a SSDD drive, I plan on replacing it with a DSDD. Please contact me if you can get me some master diskette copies that are DSDD. I'd really appreciate it, since I can't copy, format, or do anything that uses both of my drives (I don't know for sure if it's the drives or the disks, I'm choosing disks for now). Thanks a lot! Keith Harber kharber@ed.ecn.purdue.edu ------------------------------ Date: 1 Oct 92 08:29:49 GMT From: eru.mt.luth.se!lunic!sunic!news.funet.fi!cc.tut.fi!kent@bloom-beacon.mit.edu (Kentt{l{ Marko) Subject: MSX terminal/communications prog. needed Message-ID: <1992Oct1.082949.15389@cc.tut.fi> Any you guys out there have terminal/communications program for MSX ? Could you E-mail it to me ? -- ....................................................... : MAKE MY DAY : Marko Kentt{l{ : Paununkatu 5 : Love : : or : kent@cc.tut.fi : 33700 Tampere : it : : 180 ov. : kent@ee.tut.fi : Finland : LOUD : ------------------------------ Date: 4 Oct 92 00:17:52 GMT From: van-bc!cs.ubc.ca!destroyer!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!usenet.ucs.indiana.edu!silver.ucs.indiana.edu!sl313028@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (O.K. I'm Jon) Subject: Re: access with Kaypro IV Message-ID: hey, i just gave away my old kaypro II computer to a kid friend of mine. he doesn't know too much about computers, and i guess i'm too lazy to go searching throught the wuarchives, so i wanted to know if anyone knew of the names of any good games (text-based or otherwise) and educational stuff. the kid is about 14. thanx in advance... jon madison sl313028@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (jmmadiso@indyvax.iupui.edu) ------------------------------ Date: 4 Oct 92 22:57:33 GMT From: world!bmarcum@uunet.uu.net (Bill Marcum) Subject: Re: access with Kaypro IV Message-ID: Most arcade-type games don't work well on a character screen with keyboard input, but there's a CP/M version of Tetris called T20 that I've enjoyed playing. I think I downloaded it from the GEnie CP/M library. ------------------------------ Date: 4 Oct 92 22:52:26 GMT From: world!bmarcum@uunet.uu.net (Bill Marcum) Subject: Re: Take my computers please - Free. Message-ID: What country is ".ie"? Ireland? Iceland? Bill Marcum bmarcum@world.std.com ------------------------------ Date: 2 Oct 92 21:31:44 GMT From: daffodil!wyvern!waggen!alpha@ames.arc.nasa.gov (Joe Wright) Subject: Re: WordStar 4.0 Message-ID: <1992Oct2.213144.29241@waggen.twuug.com> Uwe Nass (UNF315@IBM.RHRZ.UNI-BONN.DE) wrote: : : Hi all, : : I have just read an old release announcement for WordStar 4.0 by : MicroPro. Up to now, I use version 3.0 (!!) for editing letters : on my old CP/M computer at home. Since I saw that some nice new : features are added in version 4.0, I think I should give this : product a chance, if : : - somebody can sell me this product with the manuals : : - the price is okay : : Any hints? : : Thanks in advance : Uwe Nass MicroPro is still in business, somewhere in Northern California. Try to call them. Wordstar 4.0 for CP/M is my choice for 'best' cp/m editor because it integrates lots of esoteric table-of-contents and index stuff along with speller and other stuff. I dunno who can sell it to you if Micropro won't. Good luck. -- Joe Wright alpha@waggen.twuug.com ------------------------------ Date: 2 Oct 92 21:19:45 GMT From: daffodil!wyvern!waggen!alpha@ames.arc.nasa.gov (Joe Wright) Subject: Re: z80 assembler suggestions desired Message-ID: <1992Oct2.211945.28972@waggen.twuug.com> You can't do better than Al Hawley's ZMAC/ZLNK for $50. Steve Russel's SLR suite is arguably faster, maybe better but will cost you $100 or so. Z80MR etc. just don't come into view. If you want something really better than M80/L80, or RMAC/LINK, get ZMAC from Al. -- Joe Wright alpha@waggen.twuug.com ------------------------------ Date: 1 Oct 92 11:30:39 GMT From: wupost!waikato.ac.nz!aukuni.ac.nz!kcbbs!kc@gumby.wisc.edu (Richard Plinston) Subject: Transfer cp/m files to elsewhere Message-ID: <10292274.41439.1475@kcbbs.gen.nz> >>>> 30 cp/m machines .. ICL Quadra I assume that you mean ICL Quattro. These run CDOS 4.1 or 5.1. (very early machines had CCP/M 3.1S). You can write DOS 360Kb discettes on these machines as long as they are configured to have 'PC-Node' included. Format some 360Kbs on an IBM AT 1.2 meg drive (FORMAT A: /4 on the IBM). Set the Quattro to use 360Kb discettes: OPTION B:=IBM9 It may say 'read only' but they write OK. If it won't do this run CONFIG, set PC-MODE on and rebuild system. Reboot and try again. PC-ALIEN from FBN-Software in Australia can read native Quattro discettes (it has them as ICL Model 35/36 DS 96 TPI). I can send you Kermit or Modem7 for Quattro if you wish, send me a snail-mail address (postal address) and I'll send a disc. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Oct 92 14:54:45 MEZ From: Uwe Nass Subject: WordStar 4.0 Hi all, I have just read an old release announcement for WordStar 4.0 by MicroPro. Up to now, I use version 3.0 (!!) for editing letters on my old CP/M computer at home. Since I saw that some nice new features are added in version 4.0, I think I should give this product a chance, if - somebody can sell me this product with the manuals - the price is okay Any hints? Thanks in advance Uwe Nass INTERNET: UNF315@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (131.220.224.1) BITNET: UNF315@DBNRHRZ1.BITNET ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V92 Issue #105 ************************************* 6-Oct-92 07:20:02-MDT,8581;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Tue, 6 Oct 92 07:15:39 MDT From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V92 #106 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Message-ID: <921006071540.V92N106@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> INFO-CPM Digest Tue, 6 Oct 92 Volume 92 : Issue 106 Today's Topics: Adding 5"1/4 to Xerox820II ???? Kaypro IIX and comm programs... Re: access with Kaypro IV (2 msgs) Re: CP/M data transfer to DOS Re: z80 assembler suggestions desired (2 msgs) Take my computers please - Free. WordStar 4 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 5 Oct 92 15:52:28 GMT From: eru.mt.luth.se!lunic!sunic!news.funet.fi!news.lut.fi!messmer@bloom-beacon.mit.edu (Willi Messmer) Subject: Adding 5"1/4 to Xerox820II ???? Message-ID: I have a Xerox 820-II with the 8" drive package. I would like to add 5"1/4 drives to it. There excists a 5"1/4 package without any extra offboard controller, is this correct ? The thing I would have to do, make a cable, right ? If it is so, please mail me the pin-out of the diskconnector. Willi messmer@lut.fi ------------------------------ Date: 4 Oct 92 02:28:32 GMT From: van-bc!rsoft!agate!overload.lbl.gov!dog.ee.lbl.gov!network.ucsd.edu!sdcc12!sdcc13!jcknox@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (James Knox) Subject: Kaypro IIX and comm programs... Message-ID: <38966@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> I have an old Kaypro IIX computer, and I am looking for basic communications software. The computer itself has lost its usefulness to me, but there are some files on it I would like to offload, and I would like the option to do so in the future. Are there any FTP sites (anonymous) that would have such programs? Thanks for any help. jcknox@sdcc13.ucsd.edu ------------------------------ Date: 2 Oct 92 21:04:11 GMT From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!hellgate.utah.edu!caen!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!darwin.sura.net!newshost.latech.edu!VM.CC.LATECH.EDU!BLICK@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Re: access with Kaypro IV Message-ID: <16874D3EB.BLICK@VM.CC.LATECH.EDU> About a dozen people responded to my requests for suggestions on how to access Internet with my Kaypro IV computer. Thanks to your suggestions, I have successfully connected. I tried contacting several of you by E-mail, but I couldn't get through, so please accept my public appreciation for your help. It's nice to be partof such a helpful group. Eddie Blick Louisiana Tech University ------------------------------ Date: 4 Oct 92 20:25:38 GMT From: van-bc!cs.ubc.ca!destroyer!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!news.unomaha.edu!cwis.unomaha.edu!haworth@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Dwight A. Haworth) Subject: Re: access with Kaypro IV Message-ID: <1992Oct4.202538.16637@news.unomaha.edu> The best of the games for the II would be the original Adventure game. It should be available the bbs that still serve the CPM community. There are other text based adventures and games like STRTRK that use character graphics. Some of these require BASIC to run, but that should be no problem if you had all of the original Kaypro software. The Compuserve Computer Club forum would be a good place to look. ------------------------------ Date: 2 Oct 92 16:44:14 GMT From: daffodil!wyvern!waggen!alpha@ames.arc.nasa.gov (Joe Wright) Subject: Re: CP/M data transfer to DOS Message-ID: <1992Oct2.164414.26980@waggen.twuug.com> My favorite cp/m comm program is Irv Hoff's IMP (Intelligent Modem Program). It is available on almost all cp/m bbs systems as IMP244, IMP245, ZIMP or whatever. IMP supports XMODEM and YMODEM transfers and straight text. There are others, MEX for example, which do it too. Virtually all MSDOS and UNIX systems 'connected' to phone lines will have programs which support at least the XMODEM protocol. If you don't want to wire your CPM and DOS machines to each other, use IMP on your CPM machine to upload a file to any friendly bbs. Then use you DOS machine to call the bbs and download the file. Easy. -- Joe Wright alpha@waggen.twuug.com ------------------------------ Date: 2 Oct 92 04:57:16 GMT From: zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!caen!m2xenix!clark!pacifier!mikef@uunet.uu.net (Mike Freeman) Subject: Re: z80 assembler suggestions desired Message-ID: <1992Oct2.045716.6696@pacifier.rain.com> In article <9209291629.AA11124@tmpcu.mdc.com> curts@TMPCU.MDC.COM (Curt Schroeder) writes: > >Does anyone know of a good freeware/shareware z80 assembler that can produce >Microsoft compatible .rel (relocatable) object code? > There are several fine freeware Z80 assemblers, the most notable of which are Z80MR and its successors and offshoots (e.g., Z80MRA and Z1). However, none of these will generate relocatable files in MicroSoft .REL format. Z80MR can be made to generate relocatable modules but it takes a special linker, PMLINKER, or some such, to link these modules together to produce an executable program. As far as I know, looking for a freeware Z80 assembler that generates MicroSoft .REL files is about as likely to succeed as a quest in search of the Fountain of Youth. In other words, I know of no such animal. -- Mike Freeman | Internet: mikef@pacifier.rain.com 301 N.E. 107th Street | or freeman@watsun.cc.columbia.edu Vancouver, WA 98685 USA | GEnie: M.FREEMAN11 Telephone (206)574-8221 | Loose bits sink chips! ------------------------------ Date: 2 Oct 92 17:12:08 GMT From: mentor.cc.purdue.edu!hopf.math.purdue.edu!wilker@purdue.edu (Clarence Wilkerson) Subject: Re: z80 assembler suggestions desired Message-ID: There is one freeware package, look on Simtel20 mirrors under ~cpm/asmutl : -rw-rw-r-- 1 root 94461 Oct 10 1987 smmaclnk.ark This written in Small C. It doesn't support the full range of M80 directives. It doesn't do Common very well. But it does produce Microsoft format relocatable code. -- Clarence Wilkerson \ Bitnet: wilker%math.purdue.edu@purccvm Prof. of Math. (topology)\ Internet: wilker@math.purdue.edu Dept. of Mathematics \ messages: (317) 494-1903, FAX 494-0548 Purdue University, \ office: (317) 494-1955 (voice/modem) W. Lafayette, Indiana 47907 \ ------------------------------ Date: 2 Oct 92 17:05:03 GMT From: agate!doc.ic.ac.uk!uknet!ieunet!tcdcs!unix1.tcd.ie!jfsenior@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (John Senior) Subject: Take my computers please - Free. Message-ID: Before I throw them out, I thought I might as well offer these computers to everyone - A Northstar Advantage with a 5M hard disk and a broken monitor (that can be easily replaced by someone in the US whose address I have.) And an Osborne I portable - its internal monitor is broken but it has a composite video output which works just fine. You pay the shipping and they're yours. I'll give away the manuals etc. to anyone who wants them - but obviously I'd rather get rid of the whole lot in one go. Yours, John. -- Jfsenior@vax1.tcd.ie in case you were wondering. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Oct 92 09:17:26 -0400 From: Jay Sage Subject: WordStar 4 Message-ID: <9210050917.AA03308@LL.MIT.EDU> Uwe Nass asked about a source for WordStar 4 and Joe Wright replied: >> MicroPro is still in business, somewhere in Northern California... >> sell it to you if Micropro won't. MicroPro is still in business, now under the name WordStar Corporation. However, they no long sell WordStar for CP/M. They sold the rights to the following company: Trio Company P.O. Box 594 3290 Genesee Street Cheektowaga, NY 14225-0594 716-892-9630 For Uwe, I have even better news. You can probably get a copy from a local dealer in Germany. Contact Helmut Jungkunz at the following Internet address: "jungkunz@doitcr.doit.sub.org". I recommend that anyone in Europe looking for software -- commercial or public domain -- or any other assistance with CP/M talk to Helmut. -- Jay Sage ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V92 Issue #106 ************************************* 8-Oct-92 05:48:52-MDT,9709;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 05:45:25 MDT From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V92 #107 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Message-ID: <921008054526.V92N107@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> INFO-CPM Digest Thu, 8 Oct 92 Volume 92 : Issue 107 Today's Topics: Kaypro IV w/Plus 88 Re: C Compiler Re: Take my computers please - Free. televideo ts-806 televideo ts806/20 info r wordstar 4.0 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 4 Oct 92 02:14:00 GMT From: ub!acsu.buffalo.edu!ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu!v062l48d@rutgers.edu (Harold J Screven) Subject: Kaypro IV w/Plus 88 Message-ID: I Have a Kaypro IV with the Plus 88 board installed and I never bothered to upgrade the copy of MS-DOS to a newer version, It's still in the 1.X version. The board was manufactured by a company named SWP I think. If anyone out there knows of the whereabouts of a later version of MS-DOS I would be grateful. Thanks. ------------------------------ Date: 8 Oct 92 11:01:41 GMT From: think.com!paperboy.osf.org!david@uunet.uu.net (David George) Subject: Re: C Compiler Message-ID: <1992Oct8.110141.24484@osf.org> In article <1992Oct8.001333.17472@mccc.edu>, pjh@mccc.edu (P. J. Holsberg) writes: |> Hi. I'm looking for a CP/M C compiler that will produce ROMmable code. |> Any suggestions? The professional version of the Aztec C compiler will do this. It's quite a good compiler. David. ------------------------------ Date: 3 Oct 92 20:20:16 GMT From: think.com!sdd.hp.com!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!grian!morris@ames.arc.nasa.gov (Mike Morris) Subject: Re: Take my computers please - Free. Message-ID: <1992Oct3.202016.22957@grian.cps.altadena.ca.us> jfsenior@unix1.tcd.ie (John Senior) writes: >Before I throw them out, I thought I might as well offer these >computers to everyone - A Northstar Advantage with a 5M hard disk >and a broken monitor (that can be easily replaced by someone in >the US whose address I have.) And an Osborne I portable - its >internal monitor is broken but it has a composite video output >which works just fine. You pay the shipping and they're yours. >I'll give away the manuals etc. to anyone who wants them - but >obviously I'd rather get rid of the whole lot in one go. It'd be nice to know where you are (i.e. if you're local for pickup, or to do a guesstimate on shipping cost...) -- Mike Morris WA6ILQ | This space intentionally left blank. PO Box 1130 | Arcadia, CA. 91077 | All opinions must be my own since nobody pays 818-447-7052 evenings | me enough to be their mouthpiece... ------------------------------ Date: 4 Oct 92 01:52:12 GMT From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!overload.lbl.gov!agate!spool.mu.edu!darwin.sura.net!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uunet.ca!unixbox!dosgate!dosgate![blair.groves%canrem.com]@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (blair groves) Subject: televideo ts-806 Message-ID: <1992Oct3.4443.2970@dosgate> to: jfoy@glia.biostr.washington.edu Hi Jeff, I tried to send you mail in reply to your message on FIDO, but this node's FIDONET isn't transmitting yet... AARRGGHH!!! Anyways, I am Sysop of TeleVideo Station BBS, (416)-507-9608, and you can contact me voice (416)-507-9606, if you have any further questions after I explain a few details... The TS-806/20 has a built-in hard disk, 20 megs unformatted, (but who uses unformatted hard disks?), 15 megs formatted. That's a good start, but you might want to install a larger MFM drive. I have two Seagate ST251-1 drives in a clone tower case, along with the TS-806 motherboard and hard disk controller... I run the BBS off a TS-800A connected to it, and have four other workstations including three CP/M TeleVideo computers and a MS-DOS machine with TeleVideo's RS-422 card. The sixth connection has a TS-806C cartridge tape backup unit connected. This is a great system with lots of potential. For software, you can run TeleVideo's MMMOST, Software-2000's TurboDOS, or CBIS's Network-OS. MMMOST is standard issue, and not very friendly or capable. TurboDOS is very powerful but not too friendly either. CBIS's Network-OS (my choice) is powerful and easy to use. It let me easily configure it for different sizes and quantities of hard disks, (up to four hard disks can run on *certain* TS-806 hard disk controllers), and there is a patch provided to automatically load time and date to the system from a Hayes Chronograph on starting the network. Starting the network... well, its done by RS-422 obviously, and all 15 pins are required, wired straight through. Use round-jacket cable (twisted pair will give you extended distance), standard 22 guage stranded core cable. The workstations will auto-boot off the TS-806, after the network has been started. Your workstations in all probability are really TeleVideo TS-800A's with 925 keyboards... (the TS-800A, Model 925 and Model 950 terminals all use the same parts 'cept for the motherboard), you can determine if they are merely dumb terminals or TS-800A workstations by looking at the rear panels: if there are only two DB-25 RS-232 connectors and the keyboard jack, they are indeed dumb terminals. If they have two DB-25 RS-232 connectors, the keyboard jack, *and* a 15 pin RS-422 connector, then you have TS-800A's. I can send you lots of information on these beasties, (copies of manuals, literature sheets, etc... and there are also bulletins and articles on my BBS (see above), to fill in other details. Also, Sharon Industries, in San Jose California, (408)-456-1600, can supply you with parts, manuals, new and used machines etc... Ask for Terry, he has helped me with a lot of things. There are a lot of things that I can tell you that you might want to know, so feel free to give me a ring any time (days/nights) at the above voice number too. /B/ blair.groves@canrem.com --- -- Canada Remote Systems - Toronto, Ontario World's Largest PCBOARD System - 416-629-7000/629-7044 ------------------------------ Date: 5 Oct 92 04:59:46 GMT From: cis.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uunet.ca!unixbox!dosgate!dosgate![blair.groves%canrem.com]@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (blair groves) Subject: televideo ts806/20 info r Message-ID: <19924.4443.2984@dosgate> Don Maslin writes: . -> I think that the 'Winch' slots you mention are probably for an -> external drive. There should be an internal one. Also, on the back -> panel should be a 25 pin connector marked Terminal. On the machine -> that I have seen, this was for the 'master' terminal - the others -> were for 'slave' or 'satellite' terminals. This is accurate. The Winch data and control openings are for the external second hard disk unit (MFM 5.25" ST-412/506 interface). The internal drive came in 10, 15, and 40 meg varieties. There are two RS-232 connectors: one for the console terminal, the other generally used for a serial printer (I use it for a Hayes Chronograph), and a standard 36-pin Centronics parallel port. The remaining six connectors are RS-422 NETWORK connections, DB-15, at 800Kbps, over 500 feet, (some have run 1000 feet long). The RS-422 connections are for Networked Workstations that boot off the TS-806. These can be any TS-800, 800A, 801, 802, 803, 804, TPC (portable), remote workstation processor (RWP), CP/M-86 TS-1603, or even a MS-DOS workstation with TeleVideo's RS-422 card. A tape cartridge drive also can plug in at the sixth workstation port. Each Workstation is a full-fleged computer, that runs the applications stored on the TS-806's hard disk(s), in workstation memory, and can print on local or TS-806 attached printers. Operating systems for the TS-806 include CP/M 2.2 with TeleVideo's MMMost network software, Software 2000's TurboDOS, and CBIS's Network-OS. Anyone who needs help with any TeleVideo CP/M computer is more than welcome to send me E-mail, at the following: blair.groves@canrem.com Blair -- Canada Remote Systems - Toronto, Ontario World's Largest PCBOARD System - 416-629-7000/629-7044 ------------------------------ Date: 5 Oct 92 15:16:26 GMT From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uunet.ca!unixbox!dosgate!dosgate![ray.whidden%canrem.com]@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (ray whidden) Subject: wordstar 4.0 Message-ID: <1992Oct5.4443.2986@dosgate> In an article from Joe Wright: JW>MicroPro is still in business, somewhere in Northern California. JW>Try to call them. Wordstar 4.0 for CP/M is my choice for 'best' JW>cp/m editor because it integrates lots of esoteric table-of-contents JW>and index stuff along with speller and other stuff. I dunno who can JW>sell it to you if Micropro won't. Good luck. A year or more ago, Micropro officially changed their name to WORDSTAR, INC. I doubt you'd be able to find them by the old name now. Regards, Ray Internet: ray.whidden@canrem.com : RIME : ->CRS : 46 Campania Crescent, UUCP: canrem!ray.whidden FidoNet: 1:229/15 : Scarborough, Ontario M1V 2E9 * DeLuxe2 1.21 #4419 * Blue Jays all the way in 1992 -- Canada Remote Systems - Toronto, Ontario World's Largest PCBOARD System - 416-629-7000/629-7044 ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V92 Issue #107 ************************************* 9-Oct-92 23:46:43-MDT,10026;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Fri, 9 Oct 92 23:45:44 MDT From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V92 #108 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Message-ID: <921009234545.V92N108@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> INFO-CPM Digest Fri, 9 Oct 92 Volume 92 : Issue 108 Today's Topics: Help with DECmate II / CP/M Help with DECmate II running CP/M Information on the SEEQUA CHAMELEON Wanted Is KA9Q still available for CP/M systems? Re: Is KA9Q still available for CP/M systems? (2 msgs) Re: WordStar 4 Re: WordStar 4.0 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 9 Oct 92 21:29:09 GMT From: bytex!bytex.bytex.com!robd@uunet.uu.net (Robert Driscoll @ws027) Subject: Help with DECmate II / CP/M Message-ID: <1992Oct9.212909.11817@bytex.com> I recently sent a posting looking for software packages (MBASIC, Multiplan) that run on CP/M, and documentation. I was also looking for general info on CP/M -- any kind of documentation/utilities. I was also inquiring about info for a Digital LA50 printer. I accidentilly gave a wrong e-mail addres. If anyone can help me plese send e-mail. Robert Driscoll, BYTEX Corp. 4 Technology Drive, Westboro, MA 01581-1760 UUCP: {...}uunet!bytex!robd Internet:robd@bytex.com ------------------------------ Date: 8 Oct 92 19:24:19 GMT From: bytex!bytex.bytex.com!robd@uunet.uu.net (Robert Driscoll @ws027) Subject: Help with DECmate II running CP/M Message-ID: <1992Oct8.192419.8855@bytex.com> I have just inherited a DECmate II running CP/M, with an LA50 printer. Included is a Word processor WPS which seems pretty good. I have no documentation for CP/M or for the printer. I would be greatful if someone could suggest where I could obtain these, or where I might start looking. This system can also run MBASIC and MULTIPLAN software packages compatible with CP/M. I would like to know if there is anyplace where I can get this software and associated documentation. If anyone has information that may be helpful to my quest please send me e-mail. -- Robert Driscoll, BYTEX Corp. 4 Technology Drive, Westboro, MA 01581-1760 UUCP: {...}uunet!bytex!robd Internet:robd@bytex.bytex.com ------------------------------ Date: 8 Oct 92 16:09:33 GMT From: sdd.hp.com!cs.utexas.edu!ut-emx!ccwf.cc.utexas.edu@hplabs.hpl.hp.com (The Monster of Peladon) Subject: Information on the SEEQUA CHAMELEON Wanted Message-ID: <81304@ut-emx.uucp> Greetings: I've just aquired a Seequa Chameleon portable/luggable/transportable/b boat anchor. It can run CP/M or Messy-DOS, and I'd like to run CP/M on it, be- cause it has limited memory, and because I like CP/M. Can anyone out there p please email me, and tell me how to aquire system disks for this mighty mite? I've already looked in the archive thingie in California, emailed a fellow that says that he has sysdisks, and havn't heard from him. So I'm putting out a general call. Does anyone know where I can aquire CP/M system disks? Also, I'd like any other information that anyone may have on the Seequa Chameleon. Anyone else out there have one? Any information on the Chameleon would be very much apreciated. Please email me at: aggedor@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu Thanks! ------------------------------ Date: 7 Oct 92 11:11:06 GMT From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!cs.utexas.edu!torn!maccs!eismv3.dofasco.ca!eis.dofasco.ca!fraser_h@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Is KA9Q still available for CP/M systems? Message-ID: <1992Oct7.111106.1@eis.dofasco.ca> Many times I've seen mention that KA9Q was originally developed for Z80 CPM systems. Is that original distribution still available anywhere? -- Hugh Fraser Dofasco Inc. (fraser_h@eis.dofasco.ca) 1330 Burlington St East (416)544-3761 X6941 Hamilton, Ont. L8N 3J5 Canada ------------------------------ Date: 8 Oct 92 17:22:00 GMT From: atha!aupair.cs.athabascau.ca!tech@decwrl.dec.com (Richard Loken) Subject: Re: Is KA9Q still available for CP/M systems? Message-ID: fraser_h@eis.dofasco.ca writes: >Many times I've seen mention that KA9Q was originally developed for >Z80 CPM systems. Is that original distribution still available anywhere? If you should stumble across a copy I would dearly love to see it. Mr. Karn has a religious objection to CP/M and waxes rhetorical about 8 bits and TCP/IP when the subject comes up. The song is to the effect that 8 bits are dead and gone and XT boards can be had loaded for $50.00. Phil aparantly has the floppies in his garage but intends to leave them there. Ironically the tcp-group has been tearing itself apart on a similar vein over the last year. To whit, NOS and DOS have overstayed their welcome so why use them when you can get a 40 MHz 386 machine fully configured for $1500.00 Canadian and run Unix with native TCP/IP. I notice the "get out of the dark ages" rhetoric is less warmly received when it is directed at NOS instead of CP/M. I think the demise of NOS and DOS is inevitable as a true operating system that will handle lots of memory for Intel chips becomes popular. At that time NOS, which is as much a task scheduler as a TCP/IP package will be out moded by TCP/IP services that are written to run under the control of said OS. Rumours that Microsoft are going to dump DOS as it now is known are starting to crop up - it may be called DOS and look like DOS to they the user but the similarity will end there. Hmmppph. The uninitiated would think I knew what I was talking about but I am sure many of you can see through the smoke and mirrors. -- Richard Loken VE6BSV : "ISDN (acronym) Athabasca University, Athabasca, Alberta Canada : Innovations tech@cs.AthabascaU.CA : Subscribers Don't Need." {atha|aunro}!cs.athabascau.ca!tech : - some sorehead or other ------------------------------ Date: 9 Oct 92 20:43:40 GMT From: ogicse!mintaka.lcs.mit.edu!hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu!regnad@decwrl.dec.com (Paul Prescott) Subject: Re: Is KA9Q still available for CP/M systems? Message-ID: <1992Oct9.204340.15832@mintaka.lcs.mit.edu> I have never understood the basis for the apparently widely held philosophy of "upgrade, or throw away your computer". The existence of this newsgroup at least shows that I'm not alone in my confusion. :) I still use 4MHz Z80 computers every day. I've been playing with the idea of "upgrading" one to 8MHz. (Which I may very well take up more seriously after I finish building the partially assembled Heathkit H89 I was recently given.) I find these machines to be quite adequate for my computing and communications needs. I have also just gotten involved with amateur packet radio, but find the "standard" 1200 baud AX.25 system to be a bit too slow for my liking. For about $100 I can upgrade my TNC to support 9600 baud KISS mode, and I already have an old transceiver just begging to be put to use in this sort of service, but without TCP/IP software for any of my computers I'm pretty much stuck right where I am. Shelling out a few hundred dollars (or more) for a new (or "newer", anyway) computer simply isn't a justifiable option. I realize it is rediculous to expect any kind of serious support for every orphaned computer in existance, but if the software already exists, it seems rather a shame that it is not made available. Paul Prescott N1AAC regnad@gnu.ai.mit.edu (Someone with lots more time than money, at the moment.) ------------------------------ Date: 6 Oct 92 12:18:22 GMT From: noc.near.net!bigboote.WPI.EDU!bigwpi.WPI.EDU!ear@uunet.uu.net (Mr. Neat-O [tm]) Subject: Re: WordStar 4 Message-ID: <1as06eINN4du@bigboote.WPI.EDU> In article <9210050917.AA03308@LL.MIT.EDU> sage@LL.MIT.EDU (Jay Sage) writes: >MicroPro is still in business, now under the name WordStar Corporation. >However, they no long sell WordStar for CP/M. They sold the rights to the >following company: I was under the impression that MicroPro was now Wordstar International. Also, my father's computer business still has a few copies of Wordstar 4.0 for CP/M for sale still in the original shrink wrapped boxes. He obtained them from WordStar Intl. only last year. If anyone is interested, I will email them the name/phone number/address of the business. (It's located in Massachusetts) +---------< Eric A. Rasmussen - Mr. Neat-O (tm) >---------+ +< Email Address >+ | A real engineer never reads the instructions first. | | ear@wpi.wpi.edu | | (They figure out how it works by playing with it.) | | ear%wpi@wpi.edu | +---------------------------------------------------------+ +-----------------+ ((( In Stereo Where Available ))) ------------------------------ Date: 6 Oct 92 05:10:44 GMT From: ub!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!news.unomaha.edu!cwis.unomaha.edu!haworth@rutgers.edu (Dwight A. Haworth) Subject: Re: WordStar 4.0 Message-ID: <1992Oct6.051044.9662@news.unomaha.edu> Micropro is now in business as Wordstar, Intnl. Their address is 201 Alameda del Prado, Novato, CA 94949. They should be able to help; as the previous writer said, if they can't sell you a copy, no one can!! ---- Dwight Haworth haworth@cwis.unomaha.edu ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V92 Issue #108 ************************************* 12-Oct-92 18:19:27-MDT,9197;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 18:15:39 MDT From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V92 #109 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Message-ID: <921012181540.V92N109@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> INFO-CPM Digest Mon, 12 Oct 92 Volume 92 : Issue 109 Today's Topics: C Compiler cpm and commodore 64 Need info on NEC APC-III Re: CP/M data transfer to DOS Re: Osborne Vixen System Disk Wanted Re: Televideo TS806/20 Info Requested (2 msgs) Re: WordStar 4.0 for CP/M terminal prog. for kaypro ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 8 Oct 92 00:13:33 GMT From: mccc!pjh@princeton.edu (P. J. Holsberg) Subject: C Compiler Message-ID: <1992Oct8.001333.17472@mccc.edu> Hi. I'm looking for a CP/M C compiler that will produce ROMmable code. Any suggestions? Thanks, Pete ------------------------------ Date: 12 Oct 92 08:18:59 GMT From: ucsbcsl!ucsbuxa!6500hage@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (William F. Hagen) Subject: cpm and commodore 64 Message-ID: <5994@ucsbcsl.ucsb.edu> Hi all, for those of you that remember the cpm and the commodore 64, I have a question. I have just obtained a cpm cartridge for my c64, and would like to run cpm on it. I need to know where I can get a terminal program on c64 cpm compatible diskettes, then where can I get cpm software that can run on the c64. Supposedly kcpm software is computer independant but i think that was a problem with the {c64. Any help would be appreciated. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 21:36:24 EDT From: eudoh@st6000.sct.edu (Etop Udoh) Subject: Need info on NEC APC-III Message-ID: <9210110136.AA17623@st6000.sct.edu> hi, Recently acquired a NEC APC-III with no software or documentation and don't know anything about this beast..... anybody out there have any info or software for this thing.... -- ..................................................................... : Etop Udoh Eudoh@sct.edu : : 3210 Hudson Rd. Southern College of Technology : : Marietta, Ga 30060 Marietta, Georgia : : : : Abandon all hope ye who have entered " CYBERSPACE " : :...................................................................: ------------------------------ Date: 6 Oct 92 21:11:57 GMT From: noc.near.net!news.cs.brandeis.edu!binah.cc.brandeis.edu!BURT@uunet.uu.net Subject: Re: CP/M data transfer to DOS Message-ID: <1992Oct6.211157.6566@news.cs.brandeis.edu> If you have xmodem on both machines, and a null modem cable to connect them, xmodem will work nicely. There are also programs which enable IBM machines to read CP/M disk formats. John Burt ------------------------------ Date: 29 Sep 92 04:35:30 GMT From: portal!cup.portal.com!Jeffry_A_Mickey@uunet.uu.net Subject: Re: Osborne Vixen System Disk Wanted Message-ID: <66808@cup.portal.com> > > I'm looking for a System Disk for the OSBORNE VIXEN. Will > pay costs of media, mailer, and postage. > > Keeper of the CP/M System Disk Archive for the Dino(saur)-SIG > of the San Diego Computer Society donm@crash.cts.com > Disks for the Vixen are no problem, and no charge. Where do I send them? jeff Mickey jmic@cup.portal.com ------------------------------ Date: 29 Sep 92 05:29:26 GMT From: crash!donm@nosc.mil (Don Maslin) Subject: Re: Televideo TS806/20 Info Requested Message-ID: <1992Sep28.222927.7088@crash> I think that the 'Winch' slots you mention are probably for an external drive. There should be an internal one. Also, on the back panel should be a 25 pin connector marked Terminal. On the machine that I have seen, this was for the 'master' terminal - the others were for 'slave' or 'satellite' terminals. I have a couple of disks with the MmmOST files on them, but neither are bootable. I'd be very interested in a copy of a CP/M 2.2 system disk if you get one, and also a bootable TurboDOS floppy if someone runs across one. Keeper of the CP/M System Disk Archive for the Dino(saur)-SIG of the San Diego Computer Society donm@crash.cts.com ------------------------------ Date: 29 Sep 92 08:13:13 GMT From: mcsun!sun4nl!freya.let.rug.nl!rug4!laverman@uunet.uu.net (Bert Laverman) Subject: Re: Televideo TS806/20 Info Requested Message-ID: <1992Sep29.081313.21253@cs.rug.nl> Jeff Foy writes: > Today I was given a system that is tagged as TS-806/20. Hey, here we go again. The Televideo's seem to be in their retirement phase ;-) > I'm assuming, at > least for the moment, that it is a TS-806 computer with a 20 meg hard > drive. (I know there's a hard drive but I've not been able to determine > what kind it is yet) Correct. The TS806-10 had a 10Mb drive. Actually, you'll have only 17MB to use. :-( > The system came with five TeleVideo 925 terminals with keyboards. Thos should be TS800-A's, which are full Z80 systems, but without disks. > According to what little info came with the system, it seems to run a > network-type system called MmmOST with CP/M R 2.2. Mmmost is a program that runs on the 806, and takes care of the 800's disk I/O. It also provides a rough form of protection, and some printer spooling. > Ok, the problems: > 1) No boot disk. (5.25" floppy drive so assuming this should be a 5.25" > floppy diskette -- about 368k I'd imagine. It should boot from the HD. Press the reset button again immediately after booting if it tries to boot from floppy. > 2) No cable for the hard drive. Two openings on the rear of the machine > are labeled WINCH (DATA) and WINCH (CONTROL). I'm assuming this is > where the cable is supposed to snake through. ??? The HD should be inside the 806 case. > 3) The cables for the workstation terminals had been severed so I'll > probably need new ones. They seem to be RS-422 D-style connections > (15-pins). As far as I know that is the case. > The questions: > > 1) Where can I get a boot disk either with or without MmmOST? Cost? If noone in your neighbourhood can help you, I'll send a copy. > 2) Where can I get an appropriate hard drive cable? Cost? I'm not sure. I had a 806/20, but it was scrapped when the HD gave out. Maybe the cables are still somewhere... > 3) Will any RS-422 cables work? If not, where can I get the right type > for this setup? I can check the hardware manual if you like. > The sooner I can get this system online, the sooner I can finish up CP/M > ZIP as my other CP/M system (BMC if800) bit the big one about three > weeks ago. As I said, Help in the states would be fastest, but I'm available as backup :-) Greetings, Bert -- #include Bert Laverman, Dept. of Computing Science, Groningen University Friendly mail to: laverman@cs.rug.nl The rest to: /dev/null ------------------------------ Date: 28 Sep 92 19:27:43 GMT From: sun-barr!olivea!spool.mu.edu!sdd.hp.com!caen!uwm.edu!ogicse!news.u.washington.edu!glia!jfoy@ames.arc.nasa.gov (Jeff Foy) Subject: Re: WordStar 4.0 for CP/M Message-ID: In <1a6p2uINN16o@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> ac959@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ed Grey) writes: >I am trying to install WS4.0, on a TeleVideo 803H, using the >printer driver for the Epson FX-85. When I try to print, I keep >getting an error message saying that I don't have enough memory >or it cannot find the printer driver. Qustions: Ed, is WordStar talking directly to the printer or is it going through the BIOS (or BDOS)? I remember having this same problem when I was using 4.0 on CP/M. Removing all the other drivers (ASCII, DRAFT, blah, blah) helped me. -- Jeffery Foy -- Either: jfoy@glia.biostr.washington.edu -or- foysys!jeffery@cs.washington.edu *** FREE BILL & KATHY SWAN *** -*- Happy as a clam to be using Professional YAM -*- :) ------------------------------ Date: 11 Oct 92 19:47:34 GMT From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!caen!nic.umass.edu!hamp.hampshire.edu!jmolinari@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU Subject: terminal prog. for kaypro Message-ID: <1992Oct11.154734.1@hamp.hampshire.edu> Hello! Could anybody provide me with a ready-to-run terminal emulator for a Kaypro II? I'm having trouble uncompressing the .czm file (I've only had it for a few weeks and it's just sitting there because I can't decompress the file). So, in other words, what I need is a program that will decompress a .czm file, or the uncompressed term-ulator itself. Thank you! ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V92 Issue #109 ************************************* 15-Oct-92 00:25:06-MDT,9197;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 00:24:40 MDT From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V92 #110 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Message-ID: <921015002441.V92N110@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> INFO-CPM Digest Thu, 15 Oct 92 Volume 92 : Issue 110 Today's Topics: ftp-server for cpm stuff ? Osborn I and alien discs Re: Re: Kaypro 4 Master Disks Needed Re: WordStar 4.0 for CP/M Recover files like program.czm (_?_) Will CP/M software work on any CP/M ??? z80 c cross compilers ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 12 Oct 92 21:26:39 GMT From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!darwin.sura.net!Sirius.dfn.de!dct.zrz.tu-berlin.de!zrz.tu-berlin.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!elwood!runner.prz.tu-berlin.de!nicolai@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Nicolai Leymann) Subject: ftp-server for cpm stuff ? Message-ID: <4112@elwood.prz.tu-berlin.de> Dear Netters, Some weeks ago, I bought an EPSON PX-8 laptop running cpm 2.2. Now I'm looking for software (especially kermit). Does anybody knows a ftp-site with cpm programms ? Please respond via email, because I'm not reading this newsgroup regular (yet ?). Thanks in advance Nic -- Nicolai Leymann email: nicolai@prz.tu-berlin.de Systemadministrator phone: +49-30-314-25790 Technical University of Berlin fax: +49-30-314-21114 ------------------------------ Date: 12 Oct 92 17:50:20 GMT From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!ira.uka.de!news.belwue.de!news.uni-stuttgart.de!ifi!news@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Weber) Subject: Osborn I and alien discs Message-ID: <1992Oct12.175020.11532@ifi.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de> I would like to read CP/M 86 single side discs with an Osborn I. I know how diskparameters work. The problem is, the Osborn I format has 1024 bytes sectors, CP/M 86 has 512 bytes sectors. How can I make the Osborn read 512 bytes sectors? (I was too lazy to disassemble the bios) If I change the disk parameters of one drive it affects the other one too 8-( -- Juergen G. Weber Student am Institut fuer Informatik Universitaet Stuttgart - Germany ------------------------------ Date: 13 Oct 92 15:13:52 GMT From: mcsun!uknet!keele!nott-cs!lut.ac.uk!eljh@uunet.uu.net Subject: Re: Message-ID: <1992Oct13.151352.5017@lut.ac.uk> Hi guys, can anyone help me. Someone I know has fitted a 3.5" disk drive to an Amstrad cpm/w machine. The want to be able to read&write msdos disks. What software is available for it? I've got s/w that might be able to read/write the amstrad disks (yet to be tried), but not vice-versa. Thanks for any help. Jamie ______________________________________________________________________________ To Err is Human | Email J.Hunter@uk.ac.lut | Mr Jamie Hunter But to foul things | Dept Electronic Eng. | 23 Salisbury St, Long Eaton up completely.... | Room W1.72 | Nott's NG10 1BA, England Requires UNIX! | Phone +44 509 263171x4176 | +44 602 732452 <>< ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: 9 Oct 92 00:19:20 GMT From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!hellgate.utah.edu!caen!sdd.hp.com!news.cs.indiana.edu!umn.edu!kraken!george@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Rogers George) Subject: Re: Kaypro 4 Master Disks Needed Message-ID: <1992Oct9.001920.23665@news2.cis.umn.edu> In article <1992Oct4.212608.11506@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> kharber@ecn.purdue.edu (Keith A Harber) writes: >I have a Kaypro 4 portable computer, and I need the Master diskettes for >it. ... >Please contact me if you can get me some master diskette copies that are >DSDD. I'd really appreciate it, since I can't copy, format, or do anything >that uses both of my drives (I don't know for sure if it's the drives or >the disks, I'm choosing disks for now). MEEE TOOOO!!!!! a Kaypro 4 has been recently liberated (legally [somewhat]) from Macalester College, and now lives in my basement. I would really enjoy boot disks... >Keith Harber >kharber@ed.ecn.purdue.edu > Rogers George (in that order) geor0007@student.tc.umn.edu ------------------------------ Date: 29 Sep 92 16:00:45 GMT From: daffodil!wyvern!waggen!alpha@g.ms.uky.edu (Joe Wright) Subject: Re: WordStar 4.0 for CP/M Message-ID: <1992Sep29.160045.29282@waggen.twuug.com> Ed Grey (ac959@cleveland.Freenet.Edu) wrote: : : I am trying to install WS4.0, on a TeleVideo 803H, using the : printer driver for the Epson FX-85. When I try to print, I keep : getting an error message saying that I don't have enough memory : or it cannot find the printer driver. Qustions: : : 1. How much memory is needed? I've tried with as much as 59K. : 2. Is this a normal problem when trying to install a driver for : a full featured printer? : 3. Is there a way around this problem? : : Thanks, any help, information and/or suggestions regarding WS4.0 : will be greatly appreciated. I've been happy with WS3.3 and only : now am I considering switching because I wanted to use additional : features of my printer. Take care. : : : NOTE: I've tried using CP/M 2.2, CP/M 3.0 and Z-system. The symtoms : don't change. : Use wschange to create a smaller WSPRINT.OVR containing only the drivers you need. -- Joe Wright alpha@waggen.twuug.com alpha@wyvern.twuug.com ------------------------------ Date: 15 Oct 92 03:07:32 GMT From: sdd.hp.com!news.cs.indiana.edu!news.orst.edu!lantis@hplabs.hpl.hp.com (David Lantis) Subject: Recover files like program.czm (_?_) Message-ID: I have some files (downloaded from ftp site) that have the form program.czm and wish to know what compression/archive utility is required to restore them. I assume suffixes like czm are similar to suffixes like cqm ( SQueeze and UnSQueeze ) in that some archive utility has been used on them. Also, along the same lines where can I find a utility that restores *.ark files? Thanks ahead of time! -David ------------------------------ Date: 13 Oct 92 13:20:08 GMT From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!cs.utexas.edu!gateway@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Dan Newcombe) Subject: Will CP/M software work on any CP/M ??? Message-ID: <9210131319.AA13429@deepthought.cs.utexas.edu> Hi, I have been trying to find some CP/M database software for a friend who has a DEC Rainbow 100 computer. I know that there is a HUGE supply of CP/M stuff at Wuarchive. Would I be able to download this stuff, transfer it to a disk via a CP/M read/write program and get it to work on the DEC with no problems??? As I remember, CP/M was based on the 8080 chip and instructions, so it shouldn't be a problem, right? THANKS!!! -Dan ------------------------------ Date: 9 Oct 92 02:28:00 GMT From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!hellgate.utah.edu!caen!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!hobbes.physics.uiowa.edu!news.uiowa.edu!news.weeg.uiowa.edu!vaxa.weeg.uiowa.edu!jdkirby@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Student Account) Subject: z80 c cross compilers Message-ID: <8OCT199220281728@vaxa.weeg.uiowa.edu> I am also looking for a z80 c compiler. The application I'm doing requires me to write the program on a PC (IBM) and download the program thru the serial port to the Z80 system I designed. This part works since I wrote a monitor program and installed it in the ROM previously. The serial transfer works and I transferred a small assembly language program thru it a couple days ago. The assembler I use is called ZAS from Z-world. However, the application I'm working on requires a lot of table manipulation and variable tracking. This is a thing that a higher level language does very well without the programmer having to think much about it. Anyway, an individual mentioned using Aztec C professional Cross Compiler and I would like to try this but where do you find it. Another mail message I got mentioned using BDS-C with a CP/M emulator on my PC. This is not a bad idea because I have a copy of 80MATE which supposedly should do this. However I'm about as fluent in CP/M as most Americans are in Japanese, so this is not practical due to the time constraints involved. Therefore, does anybody know where I can find the Aztec software (for cheap) or an alternate method of doing this without having to reinvent the wheel again? Additionally, I can also try using a combination of the above methods by compiling in C to assembly then assembling to machine code afterwords. The ZAS assembler creates ROMmable code in INtel-hex format and is very effective. Anyway, Thanks for any help you can provide. John Kirby ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V92 Issue #110 ************************************* 16-Oct-92 00:27:55-MDT,9164;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 00:24:46 MDT From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V92 #111 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Message-ID: <921016002447.V92N111@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> INFO-CPM Digest Fri, 16 Oct 92 Volume 92 : Issue 111 Today's Topics: ftp-server for cpm, strange .xxx files Good Kaypro needs Good Home. Good Kaypro needs Good Home II Manuals needed (M80 & L80) Re: Will CP/M software work on any CP/M ??? Transfer cp/m files to elsewhere TRS-80 Model II ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 13 Oct 92 15:10:11 GMT From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!ira.uka.de!math.fu-berlin.de!dct.zrz.tu-berlin.de!zrz.tu-berlin.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!elwood!runner.prz.tu-berlin.de!nicolai@ (Nicolai Leymann) Subject: ftp-server for cpm, strange .xxx files Message-ID: <4120@elwood.prz.tu-berlin.de> Dear netters, Thanks for the replies to my last posting. I've received some answers. You can get cpm-stuff from The following ftp-sites: micros.hensa.ac.uk 134.130.70.200 (Germany) wsmr-simtel20.army.mil [192.88.110.20] pd2: wuarchive.wustl.edu [128.252.135.4] mirrors/cpm/ watsun.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.39.1] I ftp'ed kermit this morning from a ftp-server, but I have one little problem: These strange endings like .pqt, dqc, .lbr, .ark ... I think that the files are packed, but with what kind of packer ? Any suggestions ? Thanks Nic -- Nicolai Leymann email: nicolai@prz.tu-berlin.de Systemadministrator phone: +49-30-314-25790 Technical University of Berlin fax: +49-30-314-21114 ------------------------------ Date: 13 Oct 92 00:59:50 GMT From: att!fang!gator!towers!npal!cstewart@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Good Kaypro needs Good Home. Message-ID: <20689@npal.rn.com> Hi! I beleiive in recycled hardware as well. I have a Kaypro-4, a portables jobwith built-in monitor, 2 floppy drives, 1 serial and 1 parallel. Original software, original documentation , and some more. It is a perfectly funtional beast, especially wd. proceessing. But I need, for software reasons, to let it go and get a bare-bones XT for the things I need to do. Can anyyone give the Puma 'Puter a good home, and until I do , does any one know if a Kermit or other comm. package has VT-!00-er VT-100term emulation for erer er ethe Kaypro-$ ------------------------------ Date: 13 Oct 92 01:07:37 GMT From: att!fang!gator!towers!npal!cstewart@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Good Kaypro needs Good Home II Message-ID: <20690@npal.rn.com> If you read my previous post, you begin to see my term. problems. the only Kermit I could find has VT-52 emulation only. The IMP I'm using now is apparently the same,(but doesn't sayy so.) But even VT-100 won't meeet my neeeds for long. So I am looking for an XT. P.S. I can ------------------------------ Date: 15 Oct 92 18:19:58 GMT From: eru.mt.luth.se!lunic!sunic!news.funet.fi!news.lut.fi!tepponen@bloom-beacon.mit.edu (Jussi Tepponen) Subject: Manuals needed (M80 & L80) Message-ID: I have a problem. I got this old C-compiler disk with M80 and L80 on it. The compiler makes Z80 Mac files, and I have documentation for the compiler. But there is no documentation for the M80 Macro assembler, and nether for the L80 linker. Can anyone help me with this? I just know the /z flag and aseg .z80 commands for M80 and the normal linking line (L80 name,name). --------------------------------------------------------------- Jussi Tepponen Lappeenranta University of Technology, Finland e-mail tepponen@lut.fi is the snow white during the night.... --------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: 13 Oct 92 16:01:39 GMT From: destroyer!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!hamblin.math.byu.edu!hellgate.utah.edu!cc.usu.edu!ivie@gumby.wisc.edu (CP/M lives!) Subject: Re: Will CP/M software work on any CP/M ??? Message-ID: <1992Oct13.100139.59656@cc.usu.edu> In article <9210131319.AA13429@deepthought.cs.utexas.edu>, STDN%MARIST@VM.MARIST.EDU (Dan Newcombe) writes: > Hi, > I have been trying to find some CP/M database software for > a friend who has a DEC Rainbow 100 computer. I know that > there is a HUGE supply of CP/M stuff at Wuarchive. Would > I be able to download this stuff, transfer it to a disk > via a CP/M read/write program and get it to work on the > DEC with no problems??? As I remember, CP/M was based on the > 8080 chip and instructions, so it shouldn't be a problem, right? In most cases, you can run CP/M software on any old CP/M machine. There are exceptions; software that utilizes the particular I/O ports of a certain machine, for instance. You will probably have to customize some software to talk to the terminal (in this case a VT100). This is always interesting. The DEC Rainbow is an odd CP/M box. It is primarily a CP/M-86 box with a Z80 off to the side running the floppies. The 8086 can ship a CP/M-80 program over to the Z80 and run it. Since the 8086 is running the BDOS, the Z80 has lots of extra memory space that it wouldn't normally have. I did have trouble getting the I/O byte to work properly from the Z80, and this is the primary reason that I decided to use other machines. The oddest CP/M box that I know of is the DECmate II, which I am using right now. The DECmate II is primarily a PDP-8 based word processor with a Z80 coprocessor card. The Z80 does not have direct access to the hardware (the BIOS runs on the PDP-8), but since the I/O byte is correctly implemented that isn't really a problem; I run, for example, the exact same version of KERMIT on the DECmate II that I use on the Televideo 802. The most interesting problem that I've had getting CP/M software to run on the DECmate involved some software that did not know how to put out ASCII coordinates for the VT100 emulation. I had to patch the startup banner of that program to include the Switch-to-VT52-mode escape sequence, and then patch the program to run a VT52. Roger Ivie ivie@cc.usu.edu ------------------------------ Date: 30 Sep 92 10:15:31 GMT From: mcsun!sun4nl!wn1.sci.kun.nl!sci.kun.nl!adridg@uunet.uu.net (Adriaan de Groot) Subject: Transfer cp/m files to elsewhere Message-ID: Sketch of the situation: there's about 30 cp/m machines 'round here -- ICL Quadra, with one 5 1/4" floppy (no idea 'bout density) and a 10M hard disk. The stuff on the hard disk needs to be transferred to a UNIX system. ---- But how? There's a COM port on these machines, so if some kind soul can provide KERMIT or so, we could download the contents to the UNIX system directly. An alternative is to find a way of reading floppies from these ICLs on an MS DOS machine (if I can find one with a 5 1/4" drive) and I can deal with further transfers myself. Would 22DISK work? I've seen this mentioned several times here, I'm sure I can dredge up an XT to read the floppies with. However, I need to get said 22DISK, and that's easier said than done (really?) Can someone point me to, say, a European cp/m users group, an ftp site for a program to read cp/m floppies. How 'bout vaguely useful hints? Could use them, too. If you need more tech information about these ICL machines, mail me and I'll look it up. EMail to adridg@sci.kun.nl. -- +-------------------------------+-----------------------+ + This...is a public service, + adridg@sci.kun.nl + + announcement...with guitars!+ + ------------------------------ Date: 15 Oct 92 05:19:31 GMT From: usenetusenet@cs.orst.edu (Erik Petersen) Subject: TRS-80 Model II Message-ID: <1992Oct15.051931.24157@CS.ORST.EDU> Well, I got a TRS-80 Model II from a friend and, surprise, none of the boot disks worked. Soooo, I took out the boot ROM, disassembled it, and wrote a new ROM to read the keyboard and echo characters to the screen. It worked! Now, I would like to run CPM programs on this thing, but unfortunately, the ROM occupies addresses 0 to 7FFh, and CPM expects programs to begin at 100h. Meaning, I need to disable the boot ROM after loading the OS. Did the original TRSDOS disable the ROM after booting? Also, I would like to know the addresses of the control and data ports for the two serial ports. Thanks for any help. Erik Petersen -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Erik Petersen peterse@CS.ORST.EDU ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V92 Issue #111 ************************************* 17-Oct-92 18:17:02-MDT,9254;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Sat, 17 Oct 92 18:15:08 MDT From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V92 #112 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Message-ID: <921017181509.V92N112@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> INFO-CPM Digest Sat, 17 Oct 92 Volume 92 : Issue 112 Today's Topics: Big Board II + misc for sale DECmate III embedded systems engineering position available kaypro_ii_bootdisk_wanted Re: ftp-server for cpm, strange .xxx files Re: Will CP/M software work on any CP/M ??? Transfer cp/m files to elsewhere ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 16 Oct 92 17:11:36 GMT From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uwm.edu!news.mr.med.ge.com!selig%clam.med.ge.com@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Jim Selig Mfg QIE) Subject: Big Board II + misc for sale Message-ID: <1992Oct16.171136.13506@mr.med.ge.com> I have a "Big Board II" system that's been sitting around and would like to find it a good home. This is a 4 MHz single board system with 64K ram, two serial ports, parallel interface, and a breadboard area. The breadboard area has a couple of parts on it to enable one of the parallel interfaces to be used as a centronics parallel port. Also has an STD bus interface. Mounted in enclosure with two 8" disk drives and power supply, and includes keyboard, but no monitor. Works, but has a problem reading inner sectors of the floppies. You can boot with it as is, and I know the drives themselves are OK, its the controller that has some sort of problem. Includes full schematic, documentation, and rom and bios source code listings as well as source code on disk - also Turbo Pascal, small-C, and other stuff. Also has debugger in rom so you don't need to boot to troubleshoot. Asking $75 plus shipping and COD charges (COD about $5 and it will be shipped in three boxes which may be another $20 or so). ------------------------------ Date: 15 Oct 92 09:53:46 GMT From: mcsun!sun4nl!skferc!Skferc.NL!meccl@uunet.uu.net (Cees Labrie) Subject: DECmate III Message-ID: I have just bought a surplus DECmate III, which I believe is a CP/M machine, can anyone help me a little here? I'm trying to format floppies, the DEC ones format OK, but IBM PC floppies will not. I've tried all different types the only difference I can see is a little red arrow sticker on the disk sleeve - surely this isn't it ? Or is it ? Please send e-mail direct to me and I'll summerize rsn :-) Regards, Cees Labrie email - meccl@Skferc.NL Tel (INT) 31 3402 75957 SKF-Engineering & Research Centre Nieuwegein The Netherlands ------------------------------ Date: 16 Oct 92 17:26:31 GMT From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!malgudi.oar.net!caen!sdd.hp.com!sgiblab!sgigate!olivea!news.bbn.com!noc.near.net!news.cs.brandeis.edu!chaos.cs.brandeis.edu!mary@ucbvax. (Mary F Wentworth) Subject: embedded systems engineering position available Message-ID: <1992Oct16.172631.28154@news.cs.brandeis.edu> Houghton Mifflin Co. Cambridge, MA Houghton Mifflin designs platform-independent linguistic software. Our products are written in C on the PC and then ported to a variety of platforms. We are looking for an engineer capable of porting these products to a variety of microprocessors, including the Z80. In-circuit emulation experience a must. Bank switching experience also necessary. If you're interested, call me. Mary Wentworth 617-252-3080 -- Mary F. Wentworth mary@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu ------------------------------ Date: 16 Oct 92 04:17:02 GMT From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uunet.ca!unixbox!dosgate!dosgate![blair.groves%canrem.com]@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (blair groves) Subject: kaypro_ii_bootdisk_wanted Message-ID: <1992Oct15.4443.3020@dosgate> Help! I have a Kaypro-II but no boot disk! Can someone arrange to UU-Encode the Sysgen image, and E-Mail it to me? Thanks in advance! Also, can anyone out here get me TurboDOS for the TeleVideo TS-806, and/or the TS-803? Documentation would not be a problem, since I have the version for Advanced Digital's OEM version, but TeleVideo specific docs would definitly be helpful. blair.groves@canrem.com -- Canada Remote Systems - Toronto, Ontario World's Largest PCBOARD System - 416-629-7000/629-7044 ------------------------------ Date: 15 Oct 92 14:28:52 GMT From: noc.near.net!bigboote.WPI.EDU!bigwpi.WPI.EDU!ear@uunet.uu.net (Mr. Neat-O [tm]) Subject: Re: ftp-server for cpm, strange .xxx files Message-ID: <1bjv74INNp10@bigboote.WPI.EDU> In article <4120@elwood.prz.tu-berlin.de> nicolai@runner.prz.tu-berlin.de (Nicolai Leymann) writes: >You can get cpm-stuff from The following ftp-sites: > > micros.hensa.ac.uk > 134.130.70.200 (Germany) > wsmr-simtel20.army.mil [192.88.110.20] pd2: > wuarchive.wustl.edu [128.252.135.4] mirrors/cpm/ > watsun.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.39.1] > >I ftp'ed kermit this morning from a ftp-server, but I have one >little problem: These strange endings like .pqt, dqc, .lbr, .ark >... I think that the files are packed, but with what kind of packer ? >Any suggestions ? As somebody answered about the .*q* files, I'll answer about the .ark. .ark is just an alteration of .arc, which is/was a common compression algorithm on PC's. The .arc extension was changed to .ark simply to differentiate the CP/M files from the MS-Dos ones, but the compression and internal format are exactly the same. For DOS, you could use pkunpak to unpack/unarc the files. For CP/M, I believe there is a program called unarc available at the 2nd or 3rd ftp site mentioned above. To answer someone else's question about where to find vt100 emulators / kermit for kaypro machines, I would direct them the the 4th ftp site listed above (watsun...). That is the *official* distribution site for kermit, and one may obtain there a version of kermit for just about any machine in existance. +---------< Eric A. Rasmussen - Mr. Neat-O (tm) >---------+ +< Email Address >+ | A real engineer never reads the instructions first. | | ear@wpi.wpi.edu | | (They figure out how it works by playing with it.) | | ear%wpi@wpi.edu | +---------------------------------------------------------+ +-----------------+ ((( In Stereo Where Available ))) ------------------------------ Date: 15 Oct 92 15:15:35 GMT From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!cs.utexas.edu!hellgate.utah.edu!cc.usu.edu!ivie@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (CP/M lives!) Subject: Re: Will CP/M software work on any CP/M ??? Message-ID: <1992Oct15.091535.59726@cc.usu.edu> In article , jlaiho@ichaos.nullnet.fi (Juha Laiho) writes: > In article <9210131319.AA13429@deepthought.cs.utexas.edu> STDN%MARIST@VM.MARIST.EDU (Dan Newcombe) writes: >>As I remember, CP/M was based on the 8080 chip and instructions, >>so it shouldn't be a problem, right? >> > One 'small' problem exists, if Rainbow uses 8080 (or 8085) chip. > Much of the later CP/M software was written using the z80 instruction set > that is a superset of 8080 instruction set. Thus you'll find some software > that doesn't work. Also some CP/M software makes assumtions about control > sequences used to clear screen, move cursor etc. Still, much of the software > will work, I suppose. Not true. The Rainbow has a dual-processor setup using the 8088 and Z80. I used to run CP/M Turbo Pascal on my Rainbow all the time, and the first thing a Turbo Pascal procedure does on entry is muck about with the index registers. Roger Ivie ivie@cc.usu.edu ------------------------------ Date: 1 Oct 92 11:30:39 GMT From: elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!sdd.hp.com!wupost!waikato.ac.nz!aukuni.ac.nz!kcbbs!kc@ames.arc.nasa.gov (Richard Plinston) Subject: Transfer cp/m files to elsewhere Message-ID: <10292274.41439.1475@kcbbs.gen.nz> >>>> 30 cp/m machines .. ICL Quadra I assume that you mean ICL Quattro. These run CDOS 4.1 or 5.1. (very early machines had CCP/M 3.1S). You can write DOS 360Kb discettes on these machines as long as they are configured to have 'PC-Node' included. Format some 360Kbs on an IBM AT 1.2 meg drive (FORMAT A: /4 on the IBM). Set the Quattro to use 360Kb discettes: OPTION B:=IBM9 It may say 'read only' but they write OK. If it won't do this run CONFIG, set PC-MODE on and rebuild system. Reboot and try again. PC-ALIEN from FBN-Software in Australia can read native Quattro discettes (it has them as ICL Model 35/36 DS 96 TPI). I can send you Kermit or Modem7 for Quattro if you wish, send me a snail-mail address (postal address) and I'll send a disc. ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V92 Issue #112 ************************************* 18-Oct-92 06:46:09-MDT,9427;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Sun, 18 Oct 92 06:45:34 MDT From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V92 #113 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Message-ID: <921018064535.V92N113@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> INFO-CPM Digest Sun, 18 Oct 92 Volume 92 : Issue 113 Today's Topics: amstrad discs Apple Lisa.... MSX terminal/communications prog. needed need kayproii sysdisk Re: ftp-server for cpm, strange .xxx files Re: Will CP/M software work on any CP/M ??? transport from ibm (2 msgs) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 14 Oct 92 15:29:04 GMT From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!hellgate.utah.edu!caen!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!ira.uka.de!news.belwue.de!news.uni-stuttgart.de!ifi!news@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Weber) Subject: amstrad discs Message-ID: <1992Oct14.152904.4343@ifi.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de> In article <1992Oct13.151352.5017@lut.ac.uk> J.Hunter@lut.ac.uk (Jamie Hunter) writes: >Someone I know has fitted a 3.5" disk drive to an Amstrad cpm/w machine. >The want to be able to read&write msdos disks. What software is available >for it? I've got s/w that might be able to read/write the amstrad disks >(yet to be tried), but not vice-versa. Try formatting the 3.5" discs with the Amstrad as cpm/86 format (this is possible if it is a CPC). Else format the disc on a PC with fdformat with 8 sectors/40 tracks (that makes cpm/86 format too). Afterwards you can read the disc on a pc with a tool like 22nice or zsim. -- Juergen G. Weber Student am Institut fuer Informatik Universitaet Stuttgart - Germany ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Oct 92 21:31:11 EDT From: eudoh@st6000.sct.edu (Etop Udoh) Subject: Apple Lisa.... Message-ID: <9210180131.AA29496@st6000.sct.edu> hi, I'm looking for any information which may be available for the or rather about the Apple Lisa, not to mention what kind of machine it is..... -- ..................................................................... : Etop Udoh Eudoh@sct.edu : : 3210 Hudson Rd. Southern College of Technology : : Marietta, Ga 30060 Marietta, Georgia : : : : Abandon all hope ye who have entered " CYBERSPACE " : :...................................................................: ------------------------------ Date: 1 Oct 92 08:29:49 GMT From: mcsun!news.funet.fi!cc.tut.fi!kent@uunet.uu.net (Kentt{l{ Marko) Subject: MSX terminal/communications prog. needed Message-ID: <1992Oct1.082949.15389@cc.tut.fi> Any you guys out there have terminal/communications program for MSX ? Could you E-mail it to me ? -- ....................................................... : MAKE MY DAY : Marko Kentt{l{ : Paununkatu 5 : Love : : or : kent@cc.tut.fi : 33700 Tampere : it : : 180 ov. : kent@ee.tut.fi : Finland : LOUD : ------------------------------ Date: 16 Oct 92 20:07:26 GMT From: cis.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uunet.ca!unixbox!dosgate!dosgate![blair.groves%canrem.com]@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (blair groves) Subject: need kayproii sysdisk Message-ID: <1992Oct16.4443.3024@dosgate> Help! I have a Kaypro-II but no boot disk! Can someone arrange to UU-Encode the Sysgen image, and E-Mail it to me? Thanks in advance! Also, can anyone out here get me TurboDOS for the TeleVideo TS-806, and/or the TS-803? Documentation would not be a problem, since I have the version for Advanced Digital's OEM version, but TeleVideo specific docs would definitly be helpful. blair.groves@canrem.com -- Canada Remote Systems - Toronto, Ontario World's Largest PCBOARD System - 416-629-7000/629-7044 ------------------------------ Date: 13 Oct 92 18:16:04 GMT From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!hellgate.utah.edu!caen!spool.mu.edu!darwin.sura.net!paladin.american.edu!news.univie.ac.at!hp4at!mcsun!fuug!ichaos!jlaiho@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Juha Laiho) Subject: Re: ftp-server for cpm, strange .xxx files Message-ID: In article <4120@elwood.prz.tu-berlin.de> nicolai@runner.prz.tu-berlin.de (Nicolai Leymann) writes: >Dear netters, > >I ftp'ed kermit this morning from a ftp-server, but I have one >little problem: These strange endings like .pqt, dqc, .lbr, .ark >... I think that the files are packed, but with what kind of packer ? >Any suggestions ? > I don't recall seeing .ark, but about the others: .?Q?: sQueezed file, get something that will sQueeze/UnsQueeze. I used to use a program called 'SWEEP'; it's quite nice file/directory maintainer. .LBR: Libraries. I had a library utility calles NULU on my CP/M machine. interface is pretty much like that of SWEEP, I think it's quite nice/fast to use. ..Wolf ------------------------------ Date: 13 Oct 92 18:11:22 GMT From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!hellgate.utah.edu!caen!spool.mu.edu!darwin.sura.net!paladin.american.edu!news.univie.ac.at!hp4at!mcsun!fuug!ichaos!jlaiho@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Juha Laiho) Subject: Re: Will CP/M software work on any CP/M ??? Message-ID: In article <9210131319.AA13429@deepthought.cs.utexas.edu> STDN%MARIST@VM.MARIST.EDU (Dan Newcombe) writes: >As I remember, CP/M was based on the 8080 chip and instructions, >so it shouldn't be a problem, right? > One 'small' problem exists, if Rainbow uses 8080 (or 8085) chip. Much of the later CP/M software was written using the z80 instruction set that is a superset of 8080 instruction set. Thus you'll find some software that doesn't work. Also some CP/M software makes assumtions about control sequences used to clear screen, move cursor etc. Still, much of the software will work, I suppose. ..Wolf ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Oct 92 02:04:48 PDT From: pallio.UUCP!dg@mis.ucsf.EDU (David Goodenough) Subject: transport from ibm Message-ID: joneswd@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (William D. Jones) asks: > This may seem somewhat trivial to this group, but is there a way > to transfer information to a commodore computer in cpm mode from > an ibm compatible disk? What exactly is kermit? Well, there are a couple of options. If you have a 1571 drive and are using the CP/M mode of a C128, you can write the information to a Kaypro 2 or Kaypro 4 format disk, directly from CP/M. Then you can use 22DISK on the IBM to read the Kaypro disk. Another option would be the program Big Blue Reader for the Commodore, which runs in Commodore mode (I believe) but allows you to read and write IBM disks directly on the Commodore. Kermit would be another option: it's a program that allows your Commodore and IBM computers to send files back and forth using serial communications. The big problem with it may be that Kermit for the Commodore expects to talk directly to something like a 1670 modem, which in turn only connects to a phone line. Get the two systems by two phones (if possible) and have one call the other. If not, you can connect two modems together (you have a modem for the IBM?) with a standard modular phone cord, and sometimes it's possible to get them to talk to each other. I've done this with a 1670 and another modem attached to a CP/M machine: a lot of it depends on the modems themselves. dg --- + SLMR 2.1a #1246 + WWhhaatt ddooeess dduupplleexx mmeeaann?? ------------------------------ Date: 18 Oct 92 04:49:24 GMT From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uunet.ca!unixbox!dosgate!dosgate![ray.whidden%canrem.com]@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (ray whidden) Subject: transport from ibm Message-ID: <199217.4443.3032@dosgate> In an article from William D. Jones: WD>This may seem somewhat trivial to this group, but is there a way to WD>transfer information to a commodore computer in cpm mode from an ibm WD>compatible disk? What exactly is kermit? Sage Microsystems used to sell DOSDisk which ran on the Commodore C=128 with CP/M v3.0 and Z3Plus and reads/writes MS-DOS disks. Also, Big Blue Reader, runs in C=128 native mode and reads/writes CBM-CP/M & MS-DOS disks. BBR is advertised in recent RUN and Compute magazines. There are also shareware/freeware products such as TRANS128, which run in CP/M mode and read/write MS-DOS disks. CAVEAT: For CP/M to MS-DOS transfers, these programs do not work with a C=1541 disk drive. C=1571 or C=1581 disk drive required. C=1541 is GCR recording mode ONLY, C=1571 is GCR or MFM recording and C=1581 is MFM recording. MS-DOS disks are MFM recording. Regards, Ray Internet: ray.whidden@canrem.com : RIME : ->CRS : 46 Campania Crescent, UUCP: canrem!ray.whidden FidoNet: 1:229/15 : Scarborough, Ontario M1V 2E9 * DeLuxe2 1.21 #4419 * Blue Jays all the way in 1992 -- Canada Remote Systems - Toronto, Ontario World's Largest PCBOARD System - 416-629-7000/629-7044 ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V92 Issue #113 ************************************* 19-Oct-92 08:47:39-MDT,11794;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Mon, 19 Oct 92 08:45:13 MDT From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V92 #114 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Message-ID: <921019084513.V92N114@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> INFO-CPM Digest Mon, 19 Oct 92 Volume 92 : Issue 114 Today's Topics: CP/M data transfer to DOS Further Televideo adventures ibm conversion Tiny-C binaries (where)? transport from ibm ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 1 Oct 92 19:33:23 GMT From: darwin.sura.net!tulane!rouge!aww7112@gatech.edu (Wiltz Anthony W) Subject: CP/M data transfer to DOS Message-ID: <1992Oct1.193323.15433@usl.edu> I am in search for the easiest method to transfer data from a Xerox 820-II PC using CP/M version 2.2 operating system to a MS-DOS machine. The Xerox machine has only two 8inch Drives with a COMM. and Printer port. I looked into the PIP.COM command, but not too sure that it will solve the problem. After talking with a few people they directed me to XMODEM, which was in use in the days of CP/M to transfer data between machines (CP/M machines I presume). I would need the version of XMODEM which coincides with the CP/M era. Thanks in advance for any information submitted. Wayne e-mail: aww7112@usl.edu ------------------------------ Date: 15 Oct 92 02:06:19 GMT From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!pasteur!agate!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!usenet.coe.montana.edu!news.u.washington.edu!glia!jfoy@ucbvax. (Jeff Foy) Subject: Further Televideo adventures Message-ID: What is listed below is what came up on my TV806/20 once I found the right cables for the hard drive. More than 75% of the files have a file size of 0k so I'm guessing that I'll need a new boot disk (if such a beast is available). So, can someone tell me what exactly I have? I'd be forever grateful if so... Jeff System IPL from Hard disk in progress TELEVIDEO SYSTEM TS-806/20 V1.2 60k CP/M Vers. 2.2 Tandon TM-503 Winchester. A>dir A: CON192 REL : CPMSUP REL : FASLOD REL : GEN COM A: LSTCTS REL : PATCH REL : SERIAL REL : STDLOADR REL A: STDSINGL REL : SCANDUP COM : INSTMST DOC : FIXDISK COM A: BUILDSYS DOC : COPYMST SUB : TS6BOOT COM : CPM60 COM A: TOD COM : MAKESYS COM : HDFORMAT COM : SYSGEN COM A: FORMAT COM : COPYFILE COM : 806BIOS COM : PARK32 COM A: BUILDDSK SUB : PIP COM : OSSLAVE SYS : SUBMIT REL A: USRFNC REL : DEF806 REL : DEF816 REL : DSK81640 REL A: DST81641 REL : DST81642 REL : DST81644 REL : LSTCEN REL A: NIT8X6 REL : OSLOD806 GEN : OSLOD806 PAR : OSLOD826 GEN A: OSLOD826 PAR : OSLOD846 GEN : OSLOD846 PAR : OSSGL806 GEN A: OSSGL806 PAR : OSSGL826 GEN : OSSGL826 PAR : OSSGL846 GEN A: OSSGL846 PAR : PAR80X REL : DSK80XF REL : DSK80XW REL A: DST80X21 REL : DST80X22 REL : DST80X23 REL : DST80XF REL A: DST80XW1 REL : DST80XW2 REL : DST80XW3 REL : RTC80X REL A: SPI80X REL : XSUB COM : ED COM : ASM COM A: DDT COM : LOAD COM : STAT COM : DUMP COM A: BUILDSYS SUB : SUBMIT COM : MMMOST COM : OSSGL826 SYS A: OSREM806 SYS : OSSGL806 SYS : OSSLG806 SYS : -UPDATE DOC A: OSLOD826 COM : ERASEDIR COM : OSSLV800 BAK : OSMAS846 GEN A: OSREM846 GEN : OSSLAVE PAR : OSMAS806 SYS : OSREM826 PAR A: OSSLAVE GEN : 0SSLAVE SYS : LOD806 COM : OSSLV800 PAR A: OSSLV803 GEN : AUTOLOAD COM : BACKUP COM : BANK COM A: BOOT COM : BUFFERS COM : CHANGE COM : COPY COM A: DATE COM : DELETE COM : DIR COM : DO COM A: DRIVE COM : FIXDIR COM : FIXMAP COM : FMT80XF REL A: FMT80XH REL : FORMAT REL : FORMATFD COM : FORMATFD GEN A: FORMATHD COM : FORMATHD GEN : FPATCH COM : LABEL COM A: LOGNULL COM : LOGOFF COM : LOGON COM : MONITOR COM A: PRINT COM : RELCVT COM : RENAME COM : SAVE ASM A: SAVE HEX : SET COM : SHOW COM : STATUS COM A: TED COM : TYPE COM : USER COM : USFEQU ASM A: USRFMA ASM : VERIFY COM : WSPAT30 HEX : WSPAT33 ASM A: WSPAT33 HEX : BNKMGR REL : LST300 REL : LSTETX REL A: LSTXON REL : MAKEBOOT COM : NORLOD REL : USFMAX REL A: USRFMA REL : BATCH COM : CKTEQU ASM : CONREM REL A: DSPOOL REL : FIFO COM : MASTER COM : MASTER REL A: MSGFMT REL : NETLOD REL : NETREQ REL : NETSVC REL A: PRINTER COM : QUEUE COM : RECEIVE COM : SEND COM A: STDMASTR REL : STDSLAVE REL : STDSPOOL REL : WARMSTRT AUT A: LOD816 COM : MST80X REL : OSMAS806 GEN : OSMAS806 PAR A: OSMAS826 GEN : OSMAS826 PAR : OSMAS846 PAR : OSREM806 GEN A: OSREM806 PAR : OSREM826 GEN : OSREM846 PAR : MIN802 REL A: OSSLV800 GEN : OSSLV803 PAR : OSSLV80M GEN : OSSLV80M PAR A: OSSLVP1N GEN : OSSLVP1N PAR : SLAVE REL : SLV802 REL A: SLV803 REL : BNK803 REL : CON803 REL : CONTPC REL A: DEF802 REL : DSK803F REL : DSK803W REL : DST803F REL A: DST803W REL : MOU803 REL : NIT803 REL : NIT80X REL A: RTC803 REL : SER803 REL : OSMASTER SYS : USERID SYS A>b: B>dir B: CPMSUP REL : ED COM : ASM COM : DDT COM B: LOAD COM : STAT COM : ERASEDIR COM : FIXDIR COM B: SCANDUP COM : INSTMST DOC : FIXDISK COM : BUILDSYS DOC B: COPYMST SUB : TS6BOOT COM : CPM60 COM : TOD COM B: MAKESYS COM : HDFORMAT COM : SYSGEN COM : FORMAT COM B: COPYFILE COM : 806BIOS COM : PARK32 COM : BUILDDSK SUB B: OSSLAVE SYS : CON192 REL : FASLOD REL : GEN COM B: LSTCTS REL : PATCH REL : SERIAL REL : STDLOADR REL B: STDSINGL REL : SUBMIT REL : USRFNC REL : DEF806 REL B: DEF816 REL : DSK81640 REL : DST81641 REL : DST81642 REL B: DST81644 REL : LSTCEN REL : NIT8X6 REL : OSLOD806 GEN B: OSLOD806 PAR : OSLOD826 GEN : OSLOD826 PAR : OSLOD846 GEN B: OSLOD846 PAR : OSSGL806 GEN : OSSGL806 PAR : OSSGL826 GEN B: OSSGL826 PAR : OSSGL846 GEN : OSSGL846 PAR : PAR80X REL B: DSK80XF REL : DSK80XW REL : DST80X21 REL : DST80X22 REL B: DST80X23 REL : DST80XF REL : DST80XW1 REL : DST80XW2 REL B: DST80XW3 REL : RTC80X REL : SPI80X REL : MMMOST COM B: LOD806 COM : USERID SYS : OSREM806 SYS : SUBMIT COM B: OSMAS846 GEN : OSSLV803 PAR : OSSLV803 GEN : BUILDSYS SUB B: PIP COM : OSSGL806 SYS : OSSLG806 SYS : -UPDATE DOC B: OSLOD826 COM : XSUB COM : OSSLV800 BAK : OSREM846 GEN B: OSSLAVE PAR : OSMAS806 SYS : OSREM826 PAR : OSSLAVE GEN B: 0SSLAVE SYS : OSSLV800 PAR : AUTOLOAD COM : BACKUP COM B: BANK COM : BOOT COM : BUFFERS COM : CHANGE COM B: COPY COM : DATE COM : DELETE COM : DIR COM B: DO COM : DRIVE COM : DUMP COM : FIXMAP COM B: FMT80XF REL : FMT80XH REL : FORMAT REL : FORMATFD COM B: FORMATFD GEN : FORMATHD COM : FORMATHD GEN : FPATCH COM B: LABEL COM : LOGNULL COM : LOGOFF COM : LOGON COM B: MONITOR COM : PRINT COM : RELCVT COM : RENAME COM B: SAVE ASM : SAVE HEX : SET COM : SHOW COM B: STATUS COM : TED COM : TYPE COM : USER COM B: USFEQU ASM : USRFMA ASM : VERIFY COM : WSPAT30 HEX B: WSPAT33 ASM : WSPAT33 HEX : BNKMGR REL : LST300 REL B: LSTETX REL : LSTXON REL : MAKEBOOT COM : NORLOD REL B: USFMAX REL : USRFMA REL : BATCH COM : CKTEQU ASM B: CONREM REL : DSPOOL REL : FIFO COM : MASTER COM B: MASTER REL : MSGFMT REL : NETLOD REL : NETREQ REL B: NETSVC REL : PRINTER COM : QUEUE COM : RECEIVE COM B: SEND COM : STDMASTR REL : STDSLAVE REL : STDSPOOL REL B: WARMSTRT AUT : LOD816 COM : MST80X REL : OSMAS806 GEN B: OSMAS806 PAR : OSMAS826 GEN : OSMAS826 PAR : OSMAS846 PAR B: OSREM806 GEN : OSREM806 PAR : OSREM826 GEN : OSREM846 PAR B: MIN802 REL : OSSLV800 GEN : OSSLV80M GEN : OSSLV80M PAR B: OSSLVP1N GEN : OSSLVP1N PAR : SLAVE REL : SLV802 REL B: SLV803 REL : BNK803 REL : CON803 REL : CONTPC REL B: DEF802 REL : DSK803F REL : DSK803W REL : DST803F REL B: DST803W REL : MOU803 REL : NIT803 REL : NIT80X REL B: RTC803 REL : SER803 REL : OSMASTER SYS B> -- Jeffery Foy -- Either: jfoy@glia.biostr.washington.edu -or- *** FREE BILL & KATHY SWAN *** -*- Happy as a clam to be using Professional YAM -*- :) ------------------------------ Date: 15 Oct 92 00:11:12 GMT From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!hellgate.utah.edu!caen!sdd.hp.com!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!usenet.ucs.indiana.edu!master.cs.rose-hulman.edu!master.cs.rose-hulman.edu!news@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (William D. Jones) Subject: ibm conversion Message-ID: <1bicv0INNb2a@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu> I've recently returned to the Commodore and was wondering what kind of transfer capabilities there are between the ibm and the commodore? Is there anyway ascii data transfer can be reached? Can't the 1571 or 1581 read DOS formatted disks? I would appreciate any info someone has on this matter. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Oct 92 09:14:52 -0500 From: curts@tmpcu.mdc.com (Curt Schroeder) Subject: Tiny-C binaries (where)? Message-ID: <9210191414.AA26270@tmpcu.mdc.com> Fellow CP/Mers, Thank you to those of you who responded to my query for a Z80 assembler and linker that could do relocatable code! I now have a copy of Z80MR-A and PMLINK. The reason for the above request was to get the tools to try a version of Tiny-C. However, I am still at an impass. I have two distributions of Tiny-C, neither of which I can do anything with. The first one was distributed with a CC binary and an assembler called 'assemble.com'. It uses a companion linker called 'link.com', but was not included on the distribution disk someone gave me (he was unloading his Apple II CP/M stuff). I was going to try and use Z80MR/PMLINK instead, but the 'stdlib' and 'runtime' libs are of course not compatible. Now I discover that I do not have the source for either lib (but I have the C source for the CC binary, which is supposed to be able to compile itself). So I need either the lib sources or a lead on where to find the linker. The other version of Tiny-C I have is the C source for a different release of Tiny-C that I got off of the Wash. U. archive. It is written to use M80/L80 and the .lbr file did not include a binary for CC, so I can't build this version either. I don't suppose anyone out there has done a version of Tiny-C that targets the Z80MR/PMLINK combination for doing the assembly and linking? Thanks in advance for your help. Curt Curt Schroeder | McDonnell Douglas, St. Louis | curts@tmpcu.mdc.com | ----------------------------------------------| c1891@slvaxa.umsl.edu | These opinions are mine, mine, mine! I am |-----------------------| not an instantiation of Std_Employee! | - Apple II Forever - | ------------------------------ Date: 15 Oct 92 00:08:18 GMT From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!hellgate.utah.edu!caen!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!usenet.ucs.indiana.edu!master.cs.rose-hulman.edu!master.cs.rose-hulman.edu!news@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (William D. Jones) Subject: transport from ibm Message-ID: <1bicpiINNb1h@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu> This may seem somewhat trivial to this group, but is there a way to transfer information to a commodore computer in cpm mode from an ibm compatible disk? What exactly is kermit? ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V92 Issue #114 ************************************* 20-Oct-92 09:16:20-MDT,7902;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Tue, 20 Oct 92 09:15:30 MDT From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V92 #115 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Message-ID: <921020091534.V92N115@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> INFO-CPM Digest Tue, 20 Oct 92 Volume 92 : Issue 115 Today's Topics: apple II --> IBMPC --> ADAM cp/m 2.2 conversion embedded systems engineering position available h19/h89 CRT wanted MANUALS NEEDED (M80 & L80 Re: 5v out serial port Re: z80 assembler suggestions desired Thanks to CP/M transfer to DOS repliers Turbo Pascal (2 msgs) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 19 Oct 92 12:25:27 CDT From: C588212@MIZZOU1.missouri.edu Subject: apple II --> IBMPC --> ADAM cp/m 2.2 conversion I am looking for a program that will allow and IBMPC to read Apple II disks. I have a program to transfer PC files to the Coleco Adam but I am lacking the Apple to IBM jump. I have used Apple file exchange on the Mac before, but I don't have an Mac and hate bothering my old High School teacher. If anyone has a copy or knows of a FTP site where it may reside please tell me. thanks! ------------------------------ Date: 16 Oct 92 17:26:31 GMT From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!hellgate.utah.edu!caen!sdd.hp.com!sgiblab!sgigate!olivea!news.bbn.com!noc.near.net!news.cs.brandeis.edu!chaos.cs.brandeis.edu!mary@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Mary F Wentworth) Subject: embedded systems engineering position available Message-ID: <1992Oct16.172631.28154@news.cs.brandeis.edu> Houghton Mifflin Co. Cambridge, MA Houghton Mifflin designs platform-independent linguistic software. Our products are written in C on the PC and then ported to a variety of platforms. We are looking for an engineer capable of porting these products to a variety of microprocessors, including the Z80. In-circuit emulation experience a must. Bank switching experience also necessary. If you're interested, call me. Mary Wentworth 617-252-3080 -- Mary F. Wentworth mary@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu ------------------------------ Date: 19 Oct 92 16:29:21 GMT From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!darwin.sura.net!news.Vanderbilt.Edu!sdvsun1.cc.vanderbilt.edu!wally@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Wally Siddiqui) Subject: h19/h89 CRT wanted Message-ID: <1992Oct19.162921.29437@news.vanderbilt.edu> Hello, The screen on my H89A computer recently burnt out and I was wondering if someone on the net either has a spare CRT or a Heath19 (or H89) they would like to part with. I'm willing to pay shipping + a reasonable amount. Thanks in advance! Wally ------------------------------ Date: 19 Oct 92 04:55:00 GMT From: decvax!bville.gts.org!greg.vigneault@decwrl.dec.com (Greg Vigneault) Subject: MANUALS NEEDED (M80 & L80 Message-ID: <220.540.uupcb@bville.gts.org> In message tepponen@lut.fi (Jussi Tepponen) writes... JT> I have a problem. I got this old C-compiler disk with M80 and L80 > on it. The compiler makes Z80 Mac files, and I have documentation > for the compiler. But there is no documentation for the M80 Macro > assembler, and nether for the L80 linker. > Can anyone help me with this? I just know the /z flag and aseg .z80 > commands for M80 and the normal linking line (L80 name,name). I have the documentation for M80 and L80. Any question or problem in particular? Greg Vigneault Oct.19.1992.Toronto.Canada. greg.vigneault@bville.gts.org ------------------------------ Date: 19 Oct 92 16:10:57 GMT From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!caen!hellgate.utah.edu!cc.usu.edu!ivie@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (CP/M lives!) Subject: Re: 5v out serial port Message-ID: <1992Oct19.101057.59826@cc.usu.edu> In article <1992Oct17.150342.1@hamp.hampshire.edu>, jmolinari@hamp.hampshire.edu writes: > Anybody had their serial port NOT put out the 5 volts it's supposed to? > Anybody care to take a guess at how diffucult it would be to fix? It's _supposed_ to put out anything from +/- 3V to +/- 15V. If it isn't, it's usually the line driver which is rarely difficult to fix. Look for xx188 or xx189 part numbers by the connectors. Roger Ivie ivie@cc.usu.edu ------------------------------ Date: 2 Oct 92 04:57:16 GMT From: zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!caen!m2xenix!clark!pacifier!mikef@uunet.uu.net (Mike Freeman) Subject: Re: z80 assembler suggestions desired Message-ID: <1992Oct2.045716.6696@pacifier.rain.com> In article <9209291629.AA11124@tmpcu.mdc.com> curts@TMPCU.MDC.COM (Curt Schroeder) writes: > >Does anyone know of a good freeware/shareware z80 assembler that can produce >Microsoft compatible .rel (relocatable) object code? > There are several fine freeware Z80 assemblers, the most notable of which are Z80MR and its successors and offshoots (e.g., Z80MRA and Z1). However, none of these will generate relocatable files in MicroSoft .REL format. Z80MR can be made to generate relocatable modules but it takes a special linker, PMLINKER, or some such, to link these modules together to produce an executable program. As far as I know, looking for a freeware Z80 assembler that generates MicroSoft .REL files is about as likely to succeed as a quest in search of the Fountain of Youth. In other words, I know of no such animal. -- Mike Freeman | Internet: mikef@pacifier.rain.com 301 N.E. 107th Street | or freeman@watsun.cc.columbia.edu Vancouver, WA 98685 USA | GEnie: M.FREEMAN11 Telephone (206)574-8221 | Loose bits sink chips! ------------------------------ Date: 15 Oct 92 20:27:26 GMT From: darwin.sura.net!tulane!rouge!aww7112@gatech.edu (Wiltz Anthony W) Subject: Thanks to CP/M transfer to DOS repliers Message-ID: <1992Oct15.202726.7425@usl.edu> I would like to thank all the netters who responded to my posting referring to CP/M data transfer to DOS. Sincerely, Wayne ------------------------------ Date: 19 Oct 92 04:56:00 GMT From: decvax!bville.gts.org!greg.vigneault@decwrl.dec.com (Greg Vigneault) Subject: TURBO PASCAL Message-ID: <221.540.uupcb@bville.gts.org> DL> I understand that there is a version of turbo pascal for cp/m 2.2. > Where can one find this? What are the system requirements to run > turbo pascal on a cp/m machine? Does it have its own environment > as version 3 for MS-DOS? Any assistance will be welcome. Yes, there is/was a CP/M 2.2 version of Turbo Pascal. It required a Z80 CPU. Yes, it has an integrated environment (edit, compile, etc.). Contact Borland Customer Service (customer-support@borland.com) to see if/where it is still available. Greg Vigneault Oct.19.1992.Toronto.Canada. greg.vigneault@bville.gts.org ------------------------------ Date: 16 Oct 92 02:58:15 GMT From: att!news.cs.indiana.edu!news.orst.edu!lantis@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (David Lantis) Subject: Turbo Pascal Message-ID: I understand that there is a version of turbo pascal for cp/m 2.2. Where can one find this? What are the system requirements to run turbo pascal on a cp/m machine? Does it have its own environment as version 3 for MS-DOS? Any assistance will be welcome. Also, is there a ftp site for a MS-DOS version of a "simple" telecommunications package that supports modem7 protocol? ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V92 Issue #115 ************************************* 23-Oct-92 00:46:17-MDT,9938;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Fri, 23 Oct 92 00:45:31 MDT From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V92 #116 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Message-ID: <921023004532.V92N116@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> INFO-CPM Digest Fri, 23 Oct 92 Volume 92 : Issue 116 Today's Topics: 5v out serial port apple II --> IBMPC Re: 5v out serial port Re: access with Kaypro IV Re: CP/M data transfer to DOS Re: transport from ibm Re: z80 assembler suggestions desired Take my computers please - Free. transport from ibm ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 17 Oct 92 19:03:42 GMT From: noc.near.net!nic.umass.edu!hamp.hampshire.edu!jmolinari@uunet.uu.net Subject: 5v out serial port Message-ID: <1992Oct17.150342.1@hamp.hampshire.edu> Anybody had their serial port NOT put out the 5 volts it's supposed to? Anybody care to take a guess at how diffucult it would be to fix? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Oct 92 02:05:07 PDT From: pallio.UUCP!dg@mis.ucsf.EDU (David Goodenough) Subject: apple II --> IBMPC Message-ID: mneufeld@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Michael John Neufeld) sez: >In article <9210200704.AA23397@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> >C588212@MIZZOU1.MISSOURI.EDU writes: >>I am looking for a program that will allow and IBMPC to read >>Apple II disks. ..... > >If you're talking about the old Disk II CP/M format (from way back >in the old ][,][+, and //e days), you might be out of luck. ..... >From what I gathered by reading comp.sys.apple2 the old Apple >disks use a radically different encoding method, ..... Yup - that's about the size of it. Like the old Commodore PET and C64, the Apple uses a GCR recording scheme, which is incompatible with the MFM hardware in a PC. It's also incompatible with Commodore's GCR scheme, but that's life. I think you'll find you gotta get hold of an Apple 2 of some vintage to read those disks. dg --- + SLMR 2.1a #1246 + Turn your 486 into a Gameboy, type WIN at the C:\> ------------------------------ Date: 21 Oct 92 12:01:20 GMT From: eru.mt.luth.se!lunic!sunic!corax.udac.uu.se!tdb!mikaelk@bloom-beacon.mit.edu (Mikael Kristoffersson) Subject: Re: 5v out serial port Message-ID: <1992Oct21.120120.4400@tdb.uu.se> jmolinari@hamp.hampshire.edu wrote: : Anybody had their serial port NOT put out the 5 volts it's supposed to? : Anybody care to take a guess at how diffucult it would be to fix? : Common seral ports use RS232 or V.24 standards for their signals. The signal leves is for binary "0" +3 to + 25 volt. This is also used for high level on the signal leads. Binary "1" is -3 to -25 volts, also used as low. The use of +-12v is very common. 0V as low and 5V as high is actually NOT supported, but it occurs... (and works most of the time...) That's it /Mikael Kristoffersson ------------------------------ Date: 2 Oct 92 21:04:11 GMT From: haven.umd.edu!darwin.sura.net!newshost.latech.edu!VM.CC.LATECH.EDU!BLICK@ames.arc.nasa.gov Subject: Re: access with Kaypro IV Message-ID: <16874D3EB.BLICK@VM.CC.LATECH.EDU> About a dozen people responded to my requests for suggestions on how to access Internet with my Kaypro IV computer. Thanks to your suggestions, I have successfully connected. I tried contacting several of you by E-mail, but I couldn't get through, so please accept my public appreciation for your help. It's nice to be partof such a helpful group. Eddie Blick Louisiana Tech University ------------------------------ Date: 2 Oct 92 16:44:14 GMT From: daffodil!wyvern!waggen!alpha@ames.arc.nasa.gov (Joe Wright) Subject: Re: CP/M data transfer to DOS Message-ID: <1992Oct2.164414.26980@waggen.twuug.com> My favorite cp/m comm program is Irv Hoff's IMP (Intelligent Modem Program). It is available on almost all cp/m bbs systems as IMP244, IMP245, ZIMP or whatever. IMP supports XMODEM and YMODEM transfers and straight text. There are others, MEX for example, which do it too. Virtually all MSDOS and UNIX systems 'connected' to phone lines will have programs which support at least the XMODEM protocol. If you don't want to wire your CPM and DOS machines to each other, use IMP on your CPM machine to upload a file to any friendly bbs. Then use you DOS machine to call the bbs and download the file. Easy. -- Joe Wright alpha@waggen.twuug.com ------------------------------ Date: 19 Oct 92 16:48:51 GMT From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!spool.mu.edu!umn.edu!math.fu-berlin.de!dct.zrz.tu-berlin.de!zrz.tu-berlin.de!marie!georg@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Georg Schwarz) Subject: Re: transport from ibm Message-ID: In dg@pallio.UUCP (David Goodenough) writes: >joneswd@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (William D. Jones) asks: >> This may seem somewhat trivial to this group, but is there a way >> to transfer information to a commodore computer in cpm mode from >> an ibm compatible disk? What exactly is kermit? >Well, there are a couple of options. If you have a 1571 drive and are >using the CP/M mode of a C128, you can write the information to a >Kaypro 2 or Kaypro 4 format disk, directly from CP/M. Then you can use >22DISK on the IBM to read the Kaypro disk. (BTW: if I remember correctly, the Kypro format is the one with the biggest capacity (400K?) of all disk formats supported by the C128's CP/M. So one might even consider using this format [except for the boot disk, of course] permanently when working with CP/M.) >Another option would be the program Big Blue Reader for the >Commodore, which runs in Commodore mode (I believe) but allows you >to read and write IBM disks directly on the Commodore. I'm using a PD program called XLINK (running in C128 mode and requiring a 1571) to transfer files between disks in Commodore and MS-Dos formats. There is also an option for writing and reading Commodore CP/M disks. However, XLINK is limited to files shorter than approx. 43K. If you need a copy I think you can get it via FTP from cco.caltech.edu at pub/rknop, or I might just mail it to you. georg@marie.physik.tu-berlin.de ------------------------------ Date: 2 Oct 92 17:12:08 GMT From: mentor.cc.purdue.edu!hopf.math.purdue.edu!wilker@purdue.edu (Clarence Wilkerson) Subject: Re: z80 assembler suggestions desired Message-ID: There is one freeware package, look on Simtel20 mirrors under ~cpm/asmutl : -rw-rw-r-- 1 root 94461 Oct 10 1987 smmaclnk.ark This written in Small C. It doesn't support the full range of M80 directives. It doesn't do Common very well. But it does produce Microsoft format relocatable code. -- Clarence Wilkerson \ Bitnet: wilker%math.purdue.edu@purccvm Prof. of Math. (topology)\ Internet: wilker@math.purdue.edu Dept. of Mathematics \ messages: (317) 494-1903, FAX 494-0548 Purdue University, \ office: (317) 494-1955 (voice/modem) W. Lafayette, Indiana 47907 \ ------------------------------ Date: 2 Oct 92 17:05:03 GMT From: agate!doc.ic.ac.uk!uknet!ieunet!tcdcs!unix1.tcd.ie!jfsenior@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (John Senior) Subject: Take my computers please - Free. Message-ID: Before I throw them out, I thought I might as well offer these computers to everyone - A Northstar Advantage with a 5M hard disk and a broken monitor (that can be easily replaced by someone in the US whose address I have.) And an Osborne I portable - its internal monitor is broken but it has a composite video output which works just fine. You pay the shipping and they're yours. I'll give away the manuals etc. to anyone who wants them - but obviously I'd rather get rid of the whole lot in one go. Yours, John. -- Jfsenior@vax1.tcd.ie in case you were wondering. ------------------------------ Date: 18 Oct 92 04:49:24 GMT From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!hellgate.utah.edu!cs.utexas.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uunet.ca!unixbox!dosgate!dosgate![ray.whidden%canrem.com]@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (ray whidden) Subject: transport from ibm Message-ID: <199217.4443.3032@dosgate> In an article from William D. Jones: WD>This may seem somewhat trivial to this group, but is there a way to WD>transfer information to a commodore computer in cpm mode from an ibm WD>compatible disk? What exactly is kermit? Sage Microsystems used to sell DOSDisk which ran on the Commodore C=128 with CP/M v3.0 and Z3Plus and reads/writes MS-DOS disks. Also, Big Blue Reader, runs in C=128 native mode and reads/writes CBM-CP/M & MS-DOS disks. BBR is advertised in recent RUN and Compute magazines. There are also shareware/freeware products such as TRANS128, which run in CP/M mode and read/write MS-DOS disks. CAVEAT: For CP/M to MS-DOS transfers, these programs do not work with a C=1541 disk drive. C=1571 or C=1581 disk drive required. C=1541 is GCR recording mode ONLY, C=1571 is GCR or MFM recording and C=1581 is MFM recording. MS-DOS disks are MFM recording. Regards, Ray Internet: ray.whidden@canrem.com : RIME : ->CRS : 46 Campania Crescent, UUCP: canrem!ray.whidden FidoNet: 1:229/15 : Scarborough, Ontario M1V 2E9 * DeLuxe2 1.21 #4419 * Blue Jays all the way in 1992 -- Canada Remote Systems - Toronto, Ontario World's Largest PCBOARD System - 416-629-7000/629-7044 ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V92 Issue #116 ************************************* 24-Oct-92 19:49:12-MDT,11177;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Sat, 24 Oct 92 19:45:51 MDT From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V92 #117 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Message-ID: <921024194552.V92N117@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> INFO-CPM Digest Sat, 24 Oct 92 Volume 92 : Issue 117 Today's Topics: C-128 Owners manual needed..... CP/M to DOS Re: 5v out serial port (2 msgs) Re: access with Kaypro IV Re: Take my computers please - Free. Re: WordStar 4.0 Re: z80 assembler suggestions desired televideo ts-806 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 23 Oct 92 3:44:54 EDT From: eudoh@st6000.sct.edu (Etop Udoh) Subject: C-128 Owners manual needed..... Message-ID: <9210230744.AA31931@st6000.sct.edu> hi, Just wondering, is it possible to still order the owners manual pak for the C-128 from Commodore or anyone else, and if so how would you go about it....?????????????????????? -- ..................................................................... : Etop Udoh Eudoh@sct.edu : : 3210 Hudson Rd. Southern College of Technology : : Marietta, Ga 30060 Marietta, Georgia : : : : Abandon all hope ye who have entered " CYBERSPACE " : :...................................................................: ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Oct 92 12:02:13 PDT From: pallio.UUCP!dg@mis.ucsf.EDU (David Goodenough) Subject: CP/M to DOS Message-ID: rgay@lonestar.utsa.edu (Ray H. Gay) asks: > Is there software that lets a DOS machine read CP/M disks? 22DISK from Sydex does the job nicely. Available from Simtel20 no doubt. dg --- + SLMR 2.1a #1246 + NITRATE: Cheaper than the day rate ------------------------------ Date: 18 Oct 92 00:20:08 GMT From: bobsbox.rent.com!spatula!ahm@rutgers.edu (Andreas Meyer) Subject: Re: 5v out serial port Message-ID: <1992Oct18.002008.19916@spatula.rent.com> jmolinari@hamp.hampshire.edu writes: > Anybody had their serial port NOT put out the 5 volts it's supposed to? > Anybody care to take a guess at how diffucult it would be to fix? Not without knowing what kind of machine you're taking about, no. So how amount a manufacturer and model number? Andy -- Andreas Meyer, N2FYE Dumme Gedanken hat jeder, doch der Weise ahm@spatula.rent.com verschweight sie. -- Wilhelm Busch ------------------------------ Date: 19 Oct 92 21:18:43 GMT From: wupost!waikato.ac.nz!comp.vuw.ac.nz!actrix!naos!ewen@g.ms.uky.edu (Ewen McNeill) Subject: Re: 5v out serial port Message-ID: jmolinari@hamp.hampshire.edu writes: I was going to email this, but I thought it might save some other people from asking the same question if I posted it... > Anybody had their serial port NOT put out the 5 volts it's supposed to? > Anybody care to take a guess at how diffucult it would be to fix? I'm not sure what you are asking here. Most serial ports (RS232 style anyway) that I've come across put out +/- 12V (or so) depending on the logic state, not 5V. They are not broken in doing this. There are some machines (C=64s is one that comes to mind) which came with serial ports that put out TTL voltages (0/+5), but they aren't that common. If you still think that there is a problem with your serial port you may care to mention what machine you are talking about, and any other details about the problem (eg, when it stopped working). -- Ewen McNeill, ewen@naos.actrix.gen.nz (or ewen@actrix.gen.nz) ------------------------------ Date: 4 Oct 92 00:17:52 GMT From: agate!spool.mu.edu!think.com!rpi!usc!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!usenet.ucs.indiana.edu!silver.ucs.indiana.edu!sl313028@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (O.K. I'm Jon) Subject: Re: access with Kaypro IV Message-ID: hey, i just gave away my old kaypro II computer to a kid friend of mine. he doesn't know too much about computers, and i guess i'm too lazy to go searching throught the wuarchives, so i wanted to know if anyone knew of the names of any good games (text-based or otherwise) and educational stuff. the kid is about 14. thanx in advance... jon madison sl313028@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (jmmadiso@indyvax.iupui.edu) ------------------------------ Date: 3 Oct 92 20:20:16 GMT From: think.com!sdd.hp.com!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!grian!morris@ames.arc.nasa.gov (Mike Morris) Subject: Re: Take my computers please - Free. Message-ID: <1992Oct3.202016.22957@grian.cps.altadena.ca.us> jfsenior@unix1.tcd.ie (John Senior) writes: >Before I throw them out, I thought I might as well offer these >computers to everyone - A Northstar Advantage with a 5M hard disk >and a broken monitor (that can be easily replaced by someone in >the US whose address I have.) And an Osborne I portable - its >internal monitor is broken but it has a composite video output >which works just fine. You pay the shipping and they're yours. >I'll give away the manuals etc. to anyone who wants them - but >obviously I'd rather get rid of the whole lot in one go. It'd be nice to know where you are (i.e. if you're local for pickup, or to do a guesstimate on shipping cost...) -- Mike Morris WA6ILQ | This space intentionally left blank. PO Box 1130 | Arcadia, CA. 91077 | All opinions must be my own since nobody pays 818-447-7052 evenings | me enough to be their mouthpiece... ------------------------------ Date: 2 Oct 92 21:31:44 GMT From: daffodil!wyvern!waggen!alpha@ames.arc.nasa.gov (Joe Wright) Subject: Re: WordStar 4.0 Message-ID: <1992Oct2.213144.29241@waggen.twuug.com> Uwe Nass (UNF315@IBM.RHRZ.UNI-BONN.DE) wrote: : : Hi all, : : I have just read an old release announcement for WordStar 4.0 by : MicroPro. Up to now, I use version 3.0 (!!) for editing letters : on my old CP/M computer at home. Since I saw that some nice new : features are added in version 4.0, I think I should give this : product a chance, if : : - somebody can sell me this product with the manuals : : - the price is okay : : Any hints? : : Thanks in advance : Uwe Nass MicroPro is still in business, somewhere in Northern California. Try to call them. Wordstar 4.0 for CP/M is my choice for 'best' cp/m editor because it integrates lots of esoteric table-of-contents and index stuff along with speller and other stuff. I dunno who can sell it to you if Micropro won't. Good luck. -- Joe Wright alpha@waggen.twuug.com ------------------------------ Date: 2 Oct 92 21:19:45 GMT From: daffodil!wyvern!waggen!alpha@ames.arc.nasa.gov (Joe Wright) Subject: Re: z80 assembler suggestions desired Message-ID: <1992Oct2.211945.28972@waggen.twuug.com> You can't do better than Al Hawley's ZMAC/ZLNK for $50. Steve Russel's SLR suite is arguably faster, maybe better but will cost you $100 or so. Z80MR etc. just don't come into view. If you want something really better than M80/L80, or RMAC/LINK, get ZMAC from Al. -- Joe Wright alpha@waggen.twuug.com ------------------------------ Date: 4 Oct 92 01:52:12 GMT From: agate!spool.mu.edu!darwin.sura.net!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uunet.ca!unixbox!dosgate!dosgate![blair.groves%canrem.com]@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (blair groves) Subject: televideo ts-806 Message-ID: <1992Oct3.4443.2970@dosgate> to: jfoy@glia.biostr.washington.edu Hi Jeff, I tried to send you mail in reply to your message on FIDO, but this node's FIDONET isn't transmitting yet... AARRGGHH!!! Anyways, I am Sysop of TeleVideo Station BBS, (416)-507-9608, and you can contact me voice (416)-507-9606, if you have any further questions after I explain a few details... The TS-806/20 has a built-in hard disk, 20 megs unformatted, (but who uses unformatted hard disks?), 15 megs formatted. That's a good start, but you might want to install a larger MFM drive. I have two Seagate ST251-1 drives in a clone tower case, along with the TS-806 motherboard and hard disk controller... I run the BBS off a TS-800A connected to it, and have four other workstations including three CP/M TeleVideo computers and a MS-DOS machine with TeleVideo's RS-422 card. The sixth connection has a TS-806C cartridge tape backup unit connected. This is a great system with lots of potential. For software, you can run TeleVideo's MMMOST, Software-2000's TurboDOS, or CBIS's Network-OS. MMMOST is standard issue, and not very friendly or capable. TurboDOS is very powerful but not too friendly either. CBIS's Network-OS (my choice) is powerful and easy to use. It let me easily configure it for different sizes and quantities of hard disks, (up to four hard disks can run on *certain* TS-806 hard disk controllers), and there is a patch provided to automatically load time and date to the system from a Hayes Chronograph on starting the network. Starting the network... well, its done by RS-422 obviously, and all 15 pins are required, wired straight through. Use round-jacket cable (twisted pair will give you extended distance), standard 22 guage stranded core cable. The workstations will auto-boot off the TS-806, after the network has been started. Your workstations in all probability are really TeleVideo TS-800A's with 925 keyboards... (the TS-800A, Model 925 and Model 950 terminals all use the same parts 'cept for the motherboard), you can determine if they are merely dumb terminals or TS-800A workstations by looking at the rear panels: if there are only two DB-25 RS-232 connectors and the keyboard jack, they are indeed dumb terminals. If they have two DB-25 RS-232 connectors, the keyboard jack, *and* a 15 pin RS-422 connector, then you have TS-800A's. I can send you lots of information on these beasties, (copies of manuals, literature sheets, etc... and there are also bulletins and articles on my BBS (see above), to fill in other details. Also, Sharon Industries, in San Jose California, (408)-456-1600, can supply you with parts, manuals, new and used machines etc... Ask for Terry, he has helped me with a lot of things. There are a lot of things that I can tell you that you might want to know, so feel free to give me a ring any time (days/nights) at the above voice number too. /B/ blair.groves@canrem.com --- -- Canada Remote Systems - Toronto, Ontario World's Largest PCBOARD System - 416-629-7000/629-7044 ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V92 Issue #117 ************************************* 25-Oct-92 18:16:32-MST,9885;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Sun, 25 Oct 92 18:15:39 MST From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V92 #118 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Message-ID: <921025181543.V92N118@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> INFO-CPM Digest Sun, 25 Oct 92 Volume 92 : Issue 118 Today's Topics: Kaypro 4 Master Disks Needed Kaypro IIX and comm programs... Kaypro IV w/Plus 88 MYZ80: version 1.03 released Re: access with Kaypro IV (2 msgs) Re: apple II --> IBMPC --> ADAM cp/m 2.2 conversion Re: Take my computers please - Free. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 4 Oct 92 21:26:08 GMT From: agate!spool.mu.edu!sdd.hp.com!news.cs.indiana.edu!noose.ecn.purdue.edu!news@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Keith A Harber) Subject: Kaypro 4 Master Disks Needed Message-ID: <1992Oct4.212608.11506@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> Hi, I have a Kaypro 4 portable computer, and I need the Master diskettes for it. I have the master diskettes for a Kaypro II, which I can use to boot it, but I seem to have trouble with disk manipulations, and I think it's because the II masters are SSDD disks, while the drives (I believe) are DSDD. In any case, I'd like to have a set of master diskettes that are DSDD, because if my drive is a SSDD drive, I plan on replacing it with a DSDD. Please contact me if you can get me some master diskette copies that are DSDD. I'd really appreciate it, since I can't copy, format, or do anything that uses both of my drives (I don't know for sure if it's the drives or the disks, I'm choosing disks for now). Thanks a lot! Keith Harber kharber@ed.ecn.purdue.edu ------------------------------ Date: 4 Oct 92 02:28:32 GMT From: agate!overload.lbl.gov!dog.ee.lbl.gov!network.ucsd.edu!sdcc12!sdcc13!jcknox@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (James Knox) Subject: Kaypro IIX and comm programs... Message-ID: <38966@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> I have an old Kaypro IIX computer, and I am looking for basic communications software. The computer itself has lost its usefulness to me, but there are some files on it I would like to offload, and I would like the option to do so in the future. Are there any FTP sites (anonymous) that would have such programs? Thanks for any help. jcknox@sdcc13.ucsd.edu ------------------------------ Date: 4 Oct 92 02:14:00 GMT From: ub!acsu.buffalo.edu!ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu!v062l48d@rutgers.edu (Harold J Screven) Subject: Kaypro IV w/Plus 88 Message-ID: I Have a Kaypro IV with the Plus 88 board installed and I never bothered to upgrade the copy of MS-DOS to a newer version, It's still in the 1.X version. The board was manufactured by a company named SWP I think. If anyone out there knows of the whereabouts of a later version of MS-DOS I would be grateful. Thanks. ------------------------------ Date: 22 Oct 92 05:35:02 GMT From: micro-heart-of-gold.mit.edu!wupost!waikato.ac.nz!comp.vuw.ac.nz!actrix!naos!ewen@bloom-beacon.mit.edu (Ewen McNeill) Subject: MYZ80: version 1.03 released Message-ID: <4ky3sB1w164w@naos.actrix.gen.nz> Version 1.03 of MYZ80 was released just recently. Here is a copy of the release announcement that was posted on the FidoNet CPMTECH echo. --- release announcement begins --- From : Simeon Cran 3:714/906.1 16 Oct 92 03:38:14 To : All 22 Oct 92 01:00:26 Subj : New MYZ80 version released today! M Y Z 8 0 N E W S ! ! ! ========================= It's official! MYZ80 version 1.03 is released today. Apart from some minor fixes that a few users required, the really big deal about version 1.03 is the completely new keyboard support. You can now redefine virtually any key on the keyboard, even in the middle of running your favourite piece of CP/M software! Very soon (and I'll let you all know about it here) MYZ80 version 1.03 will be available for file request at V32 (9600 baud) speed from 3:640/208. The file is 75k in size and will also appear soon at many other BBSes around the world (depending a lot on where YOU upload it to!). Available from Z-Node 62 in Perth from this Sunday (18th) (+61 9 450 0200 - 2400 baud, 24 hours a day). Available direct from my computer at v32bis (14400 baud) by prior arrangement (netmail me about this). Available in New Zealand from +64 4 478 3117 at v32bis (14400 baud). Please note also that my new point address is 3:640/208.3 and I'm always happy to talk to you via netmail about MYZ80. --- MYZ80 version 1.03 features over version 1.02: --- * Upgraded, improved, faster utilities. * Superb keyboard redefinition system. * A few minor fixes. * Complete and up-to-date MYZ80 API information. * Support for DOS interrupt 14h (to allow for the use of a FOSSIL communications driver). * Some new API functions. * Support for the undocumented Z80 instructions (registered version only). * The correct ZPM3/CPM 3.0 files to allow you to run CP/M 3.0 on MYZ80. Thousands and thousands more CP/M 2.2 and CP/M 3.0 capable computers have just been born, thanks to MYZ80! --- msgedsq/2 2.1a * Origin: Simeon's Point. Home of MYZ80 and ZPM3. Z80 lives!!! (3:714/906.1) --- release announcement ends --- I've got ZPM3 working now in my system, and got Z3PLUS going too. The API document looks to be very very useful, and the FOSSIL support should prove useful for running a RCPM on a DOS machine (a FOSSIL provides reasonable, buffered, serial IO for a DOS machine). The new keyboard support is amazing - a pop up window which can redefine any key combination at any time. Those people who emailed me about the previous version of MyZ80 can retrieve the new version from the same place as MYZ80103.ZIP. I request, again, that you upload it to other FTP sites around the world. To everyone else please be patient and wait until it arrives on FTP sites around the world, as FTP to New Zealand is both slow and also costs real money to NZ sites. Thank you for your patience. -- Ewen McNeill, ewen@naos.actrix.gen.nz (or ewen@actrix.gen.nz) ------------------------------ Date: 4 Oct 92 20:25:38 GMT From: agate!spool.mu.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!news.unomaha.edu!cwis.unomaha.edu!haworth@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Dwight A. Haworth) Subject: Re: access with Kaypro IV Message-ID: <1992Oct4.202538.16637@news.unomaha.edu> The best of the games for the II would be the original Adventure game. It should be available the bbs that still serve the CPM community. There are other text based adventures and games like STRTRK that use character graphics. Some of these require BASIC to run, but that should be no problem if you had all of the original Kaypro software. The Compuserve Computer Club forum would be a good place to look. ------------------------------ Date: 4 Oct 92 22:57:33 GMT From: world!bmarcum@uunet.uu.net (Bill Marcum) Subject: Re: access with Kaypro IV Message-ID: Most arcade-type games don't work well on a character screen with keyboard input, but there's a CP/M version of Tetris called T20 that I've enjoyed playing. I think I downloaded it from the GEnie CP/M library. ------------------------------ Date: 20 Oct 92 19:22:54 GMT From: phoenix.Princeton.EDU!mneufeld@princeton.edu (Michael John Neufeld) Subject: Re: apple II --> IBMPC --> ADAM cp/m 2.2 conversion Message-ID: <1992Oct20.192254.20500@Princeton.EDU> In article <9210200704.AA23397@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> C588212@MIZZOU1.MISSOURI.EDU writes: >I am looking for a program that will allow and IBMPC to read Apple II disks. I >have a program to transfer PC files to the Coleco Adam but I am lacking the >Apple to IBM jump. I have used Apple file exchange on the Mac before, but I >don't have an Mac and hate bothering my old High School teacher. If anyone has >a copy or knows of a FTP site where it may reside please tell me. > thanks! If you're talking about the old Disk II CP/M format (from way back in the old ][,][+, and //e days), you might be out of luck. I recently spent some time looking around for such a program so that I could convert some old 5.25" Apple CP/M disks to my IBM without having to actually get a hold of an Apple (my ][+ got stolen). From what I gathered by reading comp.sys.apple2 (and from doing archie searches and finding programs to convert from IBM to just about everything EXCEPT Apple), the old Apple disks use a radically different encoding method, fundamentally incompatible with IBM drives. (I'm not sure exactly what the differences are) The newer Apple drives, however, are supposed to be able to read/write IBM format, but then you'd need an Apple to actually do the writing. Of course you could do a direct serial port connection, but then, again, you'd need an Apple to connect with. If anybody out there has got a program that'll prove me wrong, I'd like to get a copy! -Mike -- ***************** Michael Neufeld - Princeton University, Computer Science Dept. Internet e-mail: mneufeld@phoenix.princeton.edu Rocky & Bullwinkle in '92. ------------------------------ Date: 4 Oct 92 22:52:26 GMT From: world!bmarcum@uunet.uu.net (Bill Marcum) Subject: Re: Take my computers please - Free. Message-ID: What country is ".ie"? Ireland? Iceland? Bill Marcum bmarcum@world.std.com ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V92 Issue #118 ************************************* 26-Oct-92 21:48:18-MST,8855;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Mon, 26 Oct 92 21:46:03 MST From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V92 #119 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Message-ID: <921026214604.V92N119@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> INFO-CPM Digest Mon, 26 Oct 92 Volume 92 : Issue 119 Today's Topics: Computer Journal issues for sale Kaypro 4 keyboard Re: Osborne Vixen System Disk Wanted Re: Recover files like program.czm (_?_) Re: Televideo TS806/20 Info Requested (2 msgs) Wordstar 4.0 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 20 Oct 92 12:29:03 GMT From: sgigate!psinntp!psinntp!blkbox!mknewman@rutgers.edu (Marc Kraker Newman) Subject: Computer Journal issues for sale Message-ID: <1992Oct20.122903.2965@blkbox> I have about 25 issues of The Computer Journal, which specializes in CPM and the Z80, which I will let go to the first check for $25 I get. Shipping is included. Marc Newman PO Box 591822 Houston, TX 77259-1822 -- Marc K. Newman (N5SLG) Is UNIX pronounced mknewman@blkbox.com or "UNIQUES" or blkbox!mknewman "EUNICHS"? ------------------------------ Date: 24 Oct 92 22:18:04 GMT From: mintaka.lcs.mit.edu!olivea!spool.mu.edu!umn.edu!whale!george@bloom-beacon.mit.edu (Rogers George) Subject: Kaypro 4 keyboard Message-ID: <1992Oct24.221804.25095@news2.cis.umn.edu> Ok, many, many thanks to the good people who got me boot disks for the old K-4, it boots just fine. Now, only one teeny-weeny problem remains... I discovered I don't have a working keyboard cable! The K-4 keyboard conection is a 4-position modular. I tried an old terminal (vt220 I think) keyboard cable I had laying around, then hacked it so the pins were straight through (pin 1 to 1, etc., UNlike telephone handset cords) and tried again. No go. What are the pin assignments for this puppy? Is just one* of the pairs reversed? are the inside and outside pairs swapped somewhere along the line? Did I fry my keyboard on the first try? (if so, what did I fry? can I fix it? does a kb like this exist anywhere else in creation?) Thank you... (moan) Rogers George geor0007@student.tc.umn.edu ------------------------------ Date: 29 Sep 92 04:35:30 GMT From: portal!cup.portal.com!Jeffry_A_Mickey@uunet.uu.net Subject: Re: Osborne Vixen System Disk Wanted Message-ID: <66808@cup.portal.com> > > I'm looking for a System Disk for the OSBORNE VIXEN. Will > pay costs of media, mailer, and postage. > > Keeper of the CP/M System Disk Archive for the Dino(saur)-SIG > of the San Diego Computer Society donm@crash.cts.com > Disks for the Vixen are no problem, and no charge. Where do I send them? jeff Mickey jmic@cup.portal.com ------------------------------ Date: 21 Oct 92 12:56:44 GMT From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!hellgate.utah.edu!cs.utexas.edu!ut-emx!ccwf.cc.utexas.edu@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Bruce G. Bostwick) Subject: Re: Recover files like program.czm (_?_) Message-ID: <82067@ut-emx.uucp> In article lantis@math.orst.edu (David Lantis) writes: >I have some files (downloaded from ftp site) that have the form >program.czm and wish to know what compression/archive utility is >required to restore them. I assume suffixes like czm are similar to >suffixes like cqm ( SQueeze and UnSQueeze ) in that some archive utility >has been used on them. Also, along the same lines where can I find a >utility that restores *.ark files? *.?Z? = CRUNCHED file (use CRUNCH.COM or UNCRUNCH.COM). can't help with *.ark (although *.arc means use UNARC.COM). *.lbr = library file (use NULU.COM) BTW, I think this qualifies as a FAQ, doesn't it? -- lihan@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu / "I can't complain, (really Bruce Bostwick) / but sometimes I still do" from the great state of TEXAS / --Joe Walsh-- ------------------------------ Date: 29 Sep 92 05:29:26 GMT From: crash!donm@nosc.mil (Don Maslin) Subject: Re: Televideo TS806/20 Info Requested Message-ID: <1992Sep28.222927.7088@crash> I think that the 'Winch' slots you mention are probably for an external drive. There should be an internal one. Also, on the back panel should be a 25 pin connector marked Terminal. On the machine that I have seen, this was for the 'master' terminal - the others were for 'slave' or 'satellite' terminals. I have a couple of disks with the MmmOST files on them, but neither are bootable. I'd be very interested in a copy of a CP/M 2.2 system disk if you get one, and also a bootable TurboDOS floppy if someone runs across one. Keeper of the CP/M System Disk Archive for the Dino(saur)-SIG of the San Diego Computer Society donm@crash.cts.com ------------------------------ Date: 29 Sep 92 08:13:13 GMT From: mcsun!sun4nl!freya.let.rug.nl!rug4!laverman@uunet.uu.net (Bert Laverman) Subject: Re: Televideo TS806/20 Info Requested Message-ID: <1992Sep29.081313.21253@cs.rug.nl> Jeff Foy writes: > Today I was given a system that is tagged as TS-806/20. Hey, here we go again. The Televideo's seem to be in their retirement phase ;-) > I'm assuming, at > least for the moment, that it is a TS-806 computer with a 20 meg hard > drive. (I know there's a hard drive but I've not been able to determine > what kind it is yet) Correct. The TS806-10 had a 10Mb drive. Actually, you'll have only 17MB to use. :-( > The system came with five TeleVideo 925 terminals with keyboards. Thos should be TS800-A's, which are full Z80 systems, but without disks. > According to what little info came with the system, it seems to run a > network-type system called MmmOST with CP/M R 2.2. Mmmost is a program that runs on the 806, and takes care of the 800's disk I/O. It also provides a rough form of protection, and some printer spooling. > Ok, the problems: > 1) No boot disk. (5.25" floppy drive so assuming this should be a 5.25" > floppy diskette -- about 368k I'd imagine. It should boot from the HD. Press the reset button again immediately after booting if it tries to boot from floppy. > 2) No cable for the hard drive. Two openings on the rear of the machine > are labeled WINCH (DATA) and WINCH (CONTROL). I'm assuming this is > where the cable is supposed to snake through. ??? The HD should be inside the 806 case. > 3) The cables for the workstation terminals had been severed so I'll > probably need new ones. They seem to be RS-422 D-style connections > (15-pins). As far as I know that is the case. > The questions: > > 1) Where can I get a boot disk either with or without MmmOST? Cost? If noone in your neighbourhood can help you, I'll send a copy. > 2) Where can I get an appropriate hard drive cable? Cost? I'm not sure. I had a 806/20, but it was scrapped when the HD gave out. Maybe the cables are still somewhere... > 3) Will any RS-422 cables work? If not, where can I get the right type > for this setup? I can check the hardware manual if you like. > The sooner I can get this system online, the sooner I can finish up CP/M > ZIP as my other CP/M system (BMC if800) bit the big one about three > weeks ago. As I said, Help in the states would be fastest, but I'm available as backup :-) Greetings, Bert -- #include Bert Laverman, Dept. of Computing Science, Groningen University Friendly mail to: laverman@cs.rug.nl The rest to: /dev/null ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Oct 92 08:53:48 -0600 From: curts@tmpcu.mdc.com (Curt Schroeder) Subject: Wordstar 4.0 Message-ID: <9210261453.AA12703@tmpcu.mdc.com> Wordstar 4.0 in no longer available from MicroPro, but it can be had from a company that Micropro gave distribution rights to. I don't have the company name and address handy (the infor is at home). Someone else posted the infor during the last month or so. So perhaps that person could post the info again for Uwe Nass? Curt P.S. My fingers have not completely woke up yet, evidently. The word "infor" above should have been "info." Curt Schroeder | McDonnell Douglas, St. Louis | curts@tmpcu.mdc.com | ----------------------------------------------| c1891@slvaxa.umsl.edu | These opinions are mine, mine, mine! I am |-----------------------| not an instantiation of Std_Employee! | - Apple II Forever - | ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V92 Issue #119 ************************************* 28-Oct-92 18:15:57-MST,10542;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Wed, 28 Oct 92 18:15:44 MST From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V92 #120 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Message-ID: <921028181545.V92N120@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> INFO-CPM Digest Wed, 28 Oct 92 Volume 92 : Issue 120 Today's Topics: CP/M to DOS Re: CP/M to DOS Re: What the heck is this thing???? Re: z80 assembler suggestions desired televideo ts806/20 info r Transfer cp/m files to elsewhere What the heck is this thing???? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 21 Oct 92 22:59:40 GMT From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!news!vela!m.cs.uiuc.edu!cs.uiuc.edu!wupost!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!swrinde!ringer!lonestar.utsa.edu!rgay@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Ray H. Gay) Subject: CP/M to DOS Message-ID: <1992Oct21.225940.21818@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> Is there software that lets a DOS machine read CP/M disks? I would apprec. ------------------------------ Date: 22 Oct 92 14:09:37 GMT From: crash!donm@nosc.mil (Don Maslin) Subject: Re: CP/M to DOS Message-ID: <1992Oct22.070937.23220@crash> Both 22Disk by Sydex - shareware - and UniForm by MicroSolutions - commercial - will permit reading a wide selection of CP/M disk formats. Sydex P.O. Box 5700 Eugene, OR 97405 Voice: (503) 683-6033 FAX: (503) 683-1622 Data: (503) 683-1385 Micro Solutions, Inc. 132 West Lincoln Hwy. DeKalb IL 60115 (815) 756-3411 ------------------------------ Date: 23 Oct 92 17:42:57 GMT From: interlan.InterLan.COM!rimail.interlan.com!klosp@uunet.uu.net (Patrick Klos) Subject: Re: What the heck is this thing???? Message-ID: In article wilken@plains.NoDak.edu (Scott Wilken) writes: >From: wilken@plains.NoDak.edu (Scott Wilken) >Subject: What the heck is this thing???? >Date: 22 Oct 92 03:09:22 GMT >A friend of mine just bought what he thought was an apple compatable >machine at some sort of swap meet. Upon getting it home he could not >get it to boot with any of his apple disks so he asked me to look at it. > >I opened it up, and found the drive to have the connectors one would >expect to find on a PC clone (card edge and power in the familiar size >and shape). The thing CANT be an apple clone as it has 256k memory. > >The obvious thing to do was to check what type of microprocessor it uses, >but I dont see anything familiar to me. It has a soldered in hitachi >chip numbered 6505, and a square chip in a square socket with no lettering >on it (although a big heat sink is attached, so im thinking this thing myst >be the CPU). > >It wont accept a DOS disk, so im figuring it must be a CPM machine or >something. > >Has anyone seen this? It was made in 1984 by Wang and has a model number of >WOA-20. If anyone has any info on what the heck this is, and what operating >system it uses, or at least can tell me how to contact Wang, I would be >very grateful. > >Thanks... > >Scott >-- >Go FAST! | Internet: wilken@plains.nodak.edu | AMA #587126 >Take Chances! | UUCP: ..!uunet!plains!wilken | DoD #0087 >VF700F Interceptor | Bitnet: WILKEN@PLAINS | My best guess is it's a "Wang Office Assistant". Meaning it's NOT compatible with ANYTHING! After that, contact Wang in Lowell. I think the number is (508) 459-5000. ------------------------------ Date: 2 Oct 92 04:57:16 GMT From: zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!caen!m2xenix!clark!pacifier!mikef@uunet.uu.net (Mike Freeman) Subject: Re: z80 assembler suggestions desired Message-ID: <1992Oct2.045716.6696@pacifier.rain.com> In article <9209291629.AA11124@tmpcu.mdc.com> curts@TMPCU.MDC.COM (Curt Schroeder) writes: > >Does anyone know of a good freeware/shareware z80 assembler that can produce >Microsoft compatible .rel (relocatable) object code? > There are several fine freeware Z80 assemblers, the most notable of which are Z80MR and its successors and offshoots (e.g., Z80MRA and Z1). However, none of these will generate relocatable files in MicroSoft .REL format. Z80MR can be made to generate relocatable modules but it takes a special linker, PMLINKER, or some such, to link these modules together to produce an executable program. As far as I know, looking for a freeware Z80 assembler that generates MicroSoft .REL files is about as likely to succeed as a quest in search of the Fountain of Youth. In other words, I know of no such animal. -- Mike Freeman | Internet: mikef@pacifier.rain.com 301 N.E. 107th Street | or freeman@watsun.cc.columbia.edu Vancouver, WA 98685 USA | GEnie: M.FREEMAN11 Telephone (206)574-8221 | Loose bits sink chips! ------------------------------ Date: 5 Oct 92 04:59:46 GMT From: uunet.ca!unixbox!dosgate!dosgate![blair.groves%canrem.com]@uunet.uu.net (blair groves) Subject: televideo ts806/20 info r Message-ID: <19924.4443.2984@dosgate> Don Maslin writes: . -> I think that the 'Winch' slots you mention are probably for an -> external drive. There should be an internal one. Also, on the back -> panel should be a 25 pin connector marked Terminal. On the machine -> that I have seen, this was for the 'master' terminal - the others -> were for 'slave' or 'satellite' terminals. This is accurate. The Winch data and control openings are for the external second hard disk unit (MFM 5.25" ST-412/506 interface). The internal drive came in 10, 15, and 40 meg varieties. There are two RS-232 connectors: one for the console terminal, the other generally used for a serial printer (I use it for a Hayes Chronograph), and a standard 36-pin Centronics parallel port. The remaining six connectors are RS-422 NETWORK connections, DB-15, at 800Kbps, over 500 feet, (some have run 1000 feet long). The RS-422 connections are for Networked Workstations that boot off the TS-806. These can be any TS-800, 800A, 801, 802, 803, 804, TPC (portable), remote workstation processor (RWP), CP/M-86 TS-1603, or even a MS-DOS workstation with TeleVideo's RS-422 card. A tape cartridge drive also can plug in at the sixth workstation port. Each Workstation is a full-fleged computer, that runs the applications stored on the TS-806's hard disk(s), in workstation memory, and can print on local or TS-806 attached printers. Operating systems for the TS-806 include CP/M 2.2 with TeleVideo's MMMost network software, Software 2000's TurboDOS, and CBIS's Network-OS. Anyone who needs help with any TeleVideo CP/M computer is more than welcome to send me E-mail, at the following: blair.groves@canrem.com Blair -- Canada Remote Systems - Toronto, Ontario World's Largest PCBOARD System - 416-629-7000/629-7044 ------------------------------ Date: 30 Sep 92 10:15:31 GMT From: mcsun!sun4nl!wn1.sci.kun.nl!sci.kun.nl!adridg@uunet.uu.net (Adriaan de Groot) Subject: Transfer cp/m files to elsewhere Message-ID: Sketch of the situation: there's about 30 cp/m machines 'round here -- ICL Quadra, with one 5 1/4" floppy (no idea 'bout density) and a 10M hard disk. The stuff on the hard disk needs to be transferred to a UNIX system. ---- But how? There's a COM port on these machines, so if some kind soul can provide KERMIT or so, we could download the contents to the UNIX system directly. An alternative is to find a way of reading floppies from these ICLs on an MS DOS machine (if I can find one with a 5 1/4" drive) and I can deal with further transfers myself. Would 22DISK work? I've seen this mentioned several times here, I'm sure I can dredge up an XT to read the floppies with. However, I need to get said 22DISK, and that's easier said than done (really?) Can someone point me to, say, a European cp/m users group, an ftp site for a program to read cp/m floppies. How 'bout vaguely useful hints? Could use them, too. If you need more tech information about these ICL machines, mail me and I'll look it up. EMail to adridg@sci.kun.nl. -- +-------------------------------+-----------------------+ + This...is a public service, + adridg@sci.kun.nl + + announcement...with guitars!+ + ------------------------------ Date: 22 Oct 92 03:09:22 GMT From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!hellgate.utah.edu!cs.utexas.edu!wupost!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!usenet.coe.montana.edu!news.u.washington.edu!ns1.nodak.edu!plains.NoDak.edu!wilken@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Scott Wilken) Subject: What the heck is this thing???? Message-ID: A friend of mine just bought what he thought was an apple compatable machine at some sort of swap meet. Upon getting it home he could not get it to boot with any of his apple disks so he asked me to look at it. I opened it up, and found the drive to have the connectors one would expect to find on a PC clone (card edge and power in the familiar size and shape). The thing CANT be an apple clone as it has 256k memory. The obvious thing to do was to check what type of microprocessor it uses, but I dont see anything familiar to me. It has a soldered in hitachi chip numbered 6505, and a square chip in a square socket with no lettering on it (although a big heat sink is attached, so im thinking this thing myst be the CPU). It wont accept a DOS disk, so im figuring it must be a CPM machine or something. Has anyone seen this? It was made in 1984 by Wang and has a model number of WOA-20. If anyone has any info on what the heck this is, and what operating system it uses, or at least can tell me how to contact Wang, I would be very grateful. Thanks... Scott -- Go FAST! | Internet: wilken@plains.nodak.edu | AMA #587126 Take Chances! | UUCP: ..!uunet!plains!wilken | DoD #0087 VF700F Interceptor | Bitnet: WILKEN@PLAINS | ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V92 Issue #120 ************************************* 30-Oct-92 05:16:34-MST,9284;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Fri, 30 Oct 92 05:15:30 MST From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V92 #121 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Message-ID: <921030051531.V92N121@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> INFO-CPM Digest Fri, 30 Oct 92 Volume 92 : Issue 121 Today's Topics: 22disk entry wanted Adding 5"1/4 to Xerox820II ???? apple ii --> ibmpc Chess problem solver for CP/M HX20 Mode Missing DataStar file Re: Chris Rutowski -- Rising Star Industries wordstar 4.0 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 27 Oct 92 08:34:30 GMT From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!darwin.sura.net!paladin.american.edu!news.univie.ac.at!hp4at!mcsun!sun4nl!wn1.sci.kun.nl!sci.kun.nl!adridg@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Adriaan de Groot) Subject: 22disk entry wanted Message-ID: A while back I asked about copying files from CP/M to MSDOS, and eight of you wrote back 'use 22disk,' so I ftped it from Berlin, and it's great. Thanks y'all. -BUT- There's no ICL model 35/36 entry in the ftp distribution. You need to register before you get that entry. There's the rub -- my boss would really like to see an actual result before mailing the $100 to Sydex (site license, ya know...) SO -- could I ask someone (all eight of you?) to Email me the relevant chunk of the file -- the disk parameters for an ICL model 35/36 or an ICL Quattro (dunno if that's in the list) -- then, heck, I'd be eternally grateful. +-------------------------------+-----------------------+ + This...is a public service, + adridg@sci.kun.nl + + announcement...with guitars!+ + -- +-------------------------------+-----------------------+ + This...is a public service, + adridg@sci.kun.nl + + announcement...with guitars!+ + ------------------------------ Date: 5 Oct 92 15:52:28 GMT From: agate!doc.ic.ac.uk!uknet!mcsun!news.funet.fi!news.lut.fi!messmer@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Willi Messmer) Subject: Adding 5"1/4 to Xerox820II ???? Message-ID: I have a Xerox 820-II with the 8" drive package. I would like to add 5"1/4 drives to it. There excists a 5"1/4 package without any extra offboard controller, is this correct ? The thing I would have to do, make a cable, right ? If it is so, please mail me the pin-out of the diskconnector. Willi messmer@lut.fi ------------------------------ Date: 25 Oct 92 10:33:24 GMT From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uunet.ca!unixbox!dosgate!dosgate![blair.groves%canrem.com]@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (blair groves) Subject: apple ii --> ibmpc Message-ID: <1992Oct25.4443.3057@dosgate> -> >C588212@MIZZOU1.MISSOURI.EDU writes: -> >>I am looking for a program that will allow and IBMPC to read -> >>Apple II disks. ..... -> > -> >If you're talking about the old Disk II CP/M format (from way back -> >in the old ][,][+, and //e days), you might be out of luck. ..... -> >From what I gathered by reading comp.sys.apple2 the old Apple -> >disks use a radically different encoding method, ..... You can use Uniform-PC and the MatchPoint-PC card in your IBM to read these disks. MicroSolutions Computer Products makes both these products. The address info for MicroSolutions is: MicroSolutions Computer Products 132 W. Lincoln Highway DeKalb, Illinois, 60115 U.S.A. (815)-756-3411 They also have controller cards that sllow you to hook up 8 inch floppy drives to your IBM PC too. Let us all know if this helps. blair.groves@canrem.com -- Canada Remote Systems - Toronto, Ontario World's Largest PCBOARD System - 416-629-7000/629-7044 ------------------------------ Date: 22 Oct 92 17:18:40 GMT From: haven.umd.edu!darwin.sura.net!Sirius.dfn.de!Urmel.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE!kaa!bernie@ames.arc.nasa.gov (Bernhard Pruemmer) Subject: Chess problem solver for CP/M Message-ID: Hello there, recently I found out about spreading news around via Internet News, so here is what I want to post. A few years ago I developed a program for solving chess problems of the mate-in-N-moves kind. Actually, I did not develop it entirely. The program is based on an old program written for the Sinclair ZX81. Nonetheless, I put some work into this program to make it run nice and sweet under CP/M, and I think it's a cinch to use. What the program requires is : - Turbo Pascal 3.0 ( v2.0 and 1.0 might work, too - I don't know ) Don't be afraid, the solving routines are written in machine language. The user interface is written in Pascal. I think that's it. The machine language routines are written in Z80 code, so a Zilog Z80 CPU is required, but since Turbo Pascal requires this chip as well, this is no further restriction. Anyone interested ? If so, please send me a mail, and in replay I'll send you the source files via mail. Currently, no english document file exists, but if there's some response this file can be created easily. My e-mail address is: bernie@pool.informatik.rwth-aachen.de ------------------------------ Date: 25 Oct 92 04:04:58 GMT From: pa.dec.com!nntpd2.cxo.dec.com!nntpd.lkg.dec.com!sousa.ltn.dec.com!kxovax.enet.dec.com!secrist@decwrl.dec.com (Strong datatypes for weak minds.) Subject: HX20 Mode Message-ID: <2052@sousa.ltn.dec.com> You can probably make some intelligent guesses using more recent stuff like a PX-8, etal. I believe there is an Epson group with a BBS someplace and/or on CompuServe. Regards, rcs ------------------------------ Date: 21 Oct 92 22:34:57 GMT From: elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!sdd.hp.com!scd.hp.com!hpscdm!hplextra!hpcss01!hpergfg2!hprdash!hprnd!wgh@ames.arc.nasa.gov (Bill Hooper) Subject: Missing DataStar file Message-ID: <450003@hprnd.rose.hp.com> Well it appears that I have managed to delete a portion of my DataStar. One of the overlay files is called BATCH.COM or BATCH.OVL and I deleted it. If anyone can help with a new copy I would appreciate it. Oh, yes I tried my various utilites to recover it and I wasn't successful. Bill Hooper Hewlett Packard Systems Technology Division, Systems Interface Lab wgh@hprnd.rose.hp.com (916) 785-5135 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ That's the problem with crunch heads - they have one great idea that actually works then they expect you to carry on funding them for years while they sit and calculate the topographies of their navels. Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency. Douglas Adams ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: 28 Oct 92 05:55:26 GMT From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!newshub.sdsu.edu!ucselx!crash!cwr@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Will Rose) Subject: Re: Chris Rutowski -- Rising Star Industries Message-ID: <1992Oct27.215527.7166@crash> The kindest thing to say about Valdocs was that it was ahead of its time. I suppose it must have its staunch adherents, but they are pretty rare. I always thought that it was Epson America's insistance on sticking with Rutowski and Valdocs that brought the QX10 down. When you look at the graphics routines in the BIOS there's some amazing stuff in there - but I managed to find the documentation only a couple of years ago, about five years too late... The QX-10 is a strong contender for 'best CP/M machine built', just as the PX-8 might be the best CP/M portable. I don't know why Epson didn't turn into Toashiba after that strong a start. Will cwr@crash.cts.com ------------------------------ Date: 5 Oct 92 15:16:26 GMT From: elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uunet.ca!unixbox!dosgate!dosgate![ray.whidden%canrem.com]@ames.arc.nasa.gov (ray whidden) Subject: wordstar 4.0 Message-ID: <1992Oct5.4443.2986@dosgate> In an article from Joe Wright: JW>MicroPro is still in business, somewhere in Northern California. JW>Try to call them. Wordstar 4.0 for CP/M is my choice for 'best' JW>cp/m editor because it integrates lots of esoteric table-of-contents JW>and index stuff along with speller and other stuff. I dunno who can JW>sell it to you if Micropro won't. Good luck. A year or more ago, Micropro officially changed their name to WORDSTAR, INC. I doubt you'd be able to find them by the old name now. Regards, Ray Internet: ray.whidden@canrem.com : RIME : ->CRS : 46 Campania Crescent, UUCP: canrem!ray.whidden FidoNet: 1:229/15 : Scarborough, Ontario M1V 2E9 * DeLuxe2 1.21 #4419 * Blue Jays all the way in 1992 -- Canada Remote Systems - Toronto, Ontario World's Largest PCBOARD System - 416-629-7000/629-7044 ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V92 Issue #121 ************************************* 31-Oct-92 21:18:56-MST,9161;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Sat, 31 Oct 92 21:15:26 MST From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V92 #122 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Message-ID: <921031211528.V92N122@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> INFO-CPM Digest Sat, 31 Oct 92 Volume 92 : Issue 122 Today's Topics: network_os 5.x tech man'l network_os boot prom Re: 5v out serial port Re: Adding 5"1/4 to Xerox820II ???? Re: apple II --> IBMPC --> ADAM cp/m 2.2 conversion Re: CP/M to DOS televideo rwp tech manual televideo wordstar eproms ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 26 Oct 92 14:09:07 GMT From: sun-barr!cs.utexas.edu!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uunet.ca!unixbox!dosgate!dosgate![blair.groves%canrem.com]@ames.arc.nasa.gov (blair groves) Subject: network_os 5.x tech man'l Message-ID: <1992Oct26.4443.3069@dosgate> Does anyone have the Technical Manual for CBIS's Network-OS, version 5.0 or higher? I will pre-pay for duplication, mailing and handling costs. Thanks! blair.groves@canrem.com -- Canada Remote Systems - Toronto, Ontario World's Largest PCBOARD System - 416-629-7000/629-7044 ------------------------------ Date: 26 Oct 92 14:09:07 GMT From: sun-barr!cs.utexas.edu!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uunet.ca!unixbox!dosgate!dosgate![blair.groves%canrem.com]@ames.arc.nasa.gov (blair groves) Subject: network_os boot prom Message-ID: <1992Oct26.4443.3068@dosgate> I am *desperatley* seeking the boot prom that goes in the TeleVideo RS-422 card for the IBM PC compatibles, to let it boot remotely from a TeleVideo TS-806 or TS-816 (and possibly PM-4 or PM-16), running CBIS's Network-OS operating system. Please let me know if you have one, know where I can get one, or have ever heard of one. Thanks! blair.groves@canrem.com -- Canada Remote Systems - Toronto, Ontario World's Largest PCBOARD System - 416-629-7000/629-7044 ------------------------------ Date: 28 Oct 92 15:20:48 GMT From: cis.ohio-state.edu!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!malgudi.oar.net!caen!uflorida!nervm.nerdc.ufl.edu!DHBHM@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Bruce H. McIntosh) Subject: Re: 5v out serial port Message-ID: <1688E9FA1.DHBHM@nervm.nerdc.ufl.edu> In article <1992Oct17.150342.1@hamp.hampshire.edu> jmolinari@hamp.hampshire.edu writes: >Anybody had their serial port NOT put out the 5 volts it's supposed to? >Anybody care to take a guess at how diffucult it would be to fix? If your serial port is a real, live RS232 (RS232 standard - there's a front runner for oxymoron of the month! :-) ), it is NOT supposed to put out 5vdc! RS232 works with a voltage swing of +/- 9vdc. Bruce H. McIntosh brucem@neufhou.mail.ufl.edu Jesus has risen! bhm@cis.ufl.edu dhbhm@nervm.nerdc.ufl.edu UF Housing user support on IBM Aggravation System/400 :-) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ OBSOLETE (n.) - dependable, reliable, inexpensive and readily available Support trailing-edge technology! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1992 07:47:40 PST From: Sprague.Wbst311@xerox.com Subject: Re: Adding 5"1/4 to Xerox820II ???? Message-ID: <"30-Oct-92 10:47:40 EST".*.Michael_D._Sprague.wbst311@Xerox.com> > There excists a 5" 1/4 package without any extra offboard controller, > is this correct? Yes, though I don't like the fact that it draws it's power from the 820 itself, rather than having it's own power supply. That is the reason that the 16/8 was not offered with 5.25" disks (unless you had the Disk Expansion Module or DEM). The power supply was not spec'ed to supply power for the 820-II, the 16/8 board _AND_ the 5.25" drives (though many could actually do it). In any case, if you make your own cable, _don't_ try to power the floppy drives from the 820, using ribbon cable!!! :-) The floppy controller in the 820-II and 16/8 (and the built in controller in the 820) works for both 8" and 2.5" drives. Pin 2 on the 37 pin interface told the controler which type of drive was attached. If open, then 8" drives were connected, if closed, then 5.25" drives were connected. So this pin must be grounded, if you want to add 5.25" drives. Xerox 820-II Disk Drive Connector (J1) 1 n.c. 2 8/5" Select (open=8"/ground=5") 3 Two Sided (Optional signal) 4 Index 5 Drive Select 1 6 Drive Select 2 7 Side Select 8 Head Load 9 Direction Select 10 Step 11 Write Data 12 Write Gate 13 Track 0 14 Write Protect 15 Read Data 16 Low Current (Optional 8" signal) 17 Drive Ready (8" only) 18 +12 Vdc 19 +5 Vdc -- -------------- 20 Ground 21 Ground 22 Ground 23 Ground 24 Ground 25 Ground 26 Ground 27 Ground 28 Ground 29 Ground 30 Ground 31 Ground 32 Ground 33 Ground 34 Ground 35 Ground 36 +12 V Return 37 +5 V Return Note that there is no MOTOR ON signal, as 8" drives did not use it. You need the type of 5.25" drives that have a jumper to internally tie Drive Select to Motor On (the 360K Chinnon's I have do this). If you don't have drives that do this, you will need to create an interface, something like IBM's "twisted" cable, to derive two seperate Motor On signals. Assuming you connect modern day half height floppys, be sure to run the 820's CONFIGUR program, and set the floppy step rate from the generic 30 mS (needed for the old Shugart SA400 drives) to 6 mS, which is used by all modern drives. This not only will make a noticable speed improvement in the computer, but the drives will make less noise. Feel free to contact me if you need more info. ~ Mike (sprague.wbst311@xerox.com) ------------------------------ Date: 28 Oct 92 09:32:51 GMT From: mcsun!uknet!doc.ic.ac.uk!sot-ecs!nwp90@uunet.uu.net (Nick Phillips) Subject: Re: apple II --> IBMPC --> ADAM cp/m 2.2 conversion Message-ID: <13237@ecs.soton.ac.uk> In <1992Oct20.192254.20500@Princeton.EDU> mneufeld@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Michael John Neufeld) writes: >IBM format, but then you'd need an Apple to actually do the writing. >Of course you could do a direct serial port connection, but then, again, >you'd need an Apple to connect with. If anybody out there has got a program >that'll prove me wrong, I'd like to get a copy! Why not just get another Apple ][ - you can pick them up for next to nothing, and then you'd be able to play all those wonderful old games again too... Nick. -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Nick Phillips 17,Tennyson Avenue, Hitchin, Herts. SG4 0PX - UK nwp90@ecs.soton.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: 28 Oct 92 10:38:49 GMT From: mcsun!Germany.EU.net!nixpbe!uranium!josef@uunet.uu.net (Josef Moellers) Subject: Re: CP/M to DOS Message-ID: In <1992Oct21.225940.21818@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> rgay@lonestar.utsa.edu (Ray H. Gay) writes: >Is there software that lets a DOS machine read CP/M disks? I would apprec. I used a program called 22dsk. It's on Simtel somewhere. Probably DSKUTL. -- | Josef Moellers | c/o Siemens Nixdorf Informationssysteme AG | | USA: mollers.pad@sni-usa.com | Abt. STO-XS 113 | Riemekestrasse | | !USA: mollers.pad@sni.de | Phone: (+49) 5251 835124 | D-4790 Paderborn | ------------------------------ Date: 26 Oct 92 14:09:06 GMT From: sun-barr!cs.utexas.edu!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uunet.ca!unixbox!dosgate!dosgate![blair.groves%canrem.com]@ames.arc.nasa.gov (blair groves) Subject: televideo rwp tech manual Message-ID: <1992Oct26.4443.3066@dosgate> Does anyone have a TeleVideo RWP (Remote Workstation Processor) Maintainance Manual? I need schematics, and technical documentation for the unit, including printed circuit board layouts and circuit diagrams to assist in getting a RWP board running. Thanks! blair.groves@canrem.com -- Canada Remote Systems - Toronto, Ontario World's Largest PCBOARD System - 416-629-7000/629-7044 ------------------------------ Date: 26 Oct 92 14:09:07 GMT From: sun-barr!cs.utexas.edu!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uunet.ca!unixbox!dosgate!dosgate![blair.groves%canrem.com]@ames.arc.nasa.gov (blair groves) Subject: televideo wordstar eproms Message-ID: <1992Oct26.4443.3067@dosgate> Anybody have one of the WordStar proms that re-defines the TeleVideo keyboard on a model 925 or model 950 terminal, or TS-800/803/803H/TPC-I computer to fully support WordStar? Thanks! blair.groves@canrem.com -- Canada Remote Systems - Toronto, Ontario World's Largest PCBOARD System - 416-629-7000/629-7044 ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V92 Issue #122 *************************************